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What is USBM's masterpiece /mu/?

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What is USBM's masterpiece /mu/?
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Not any of those things
Leech, Skagos, Fell Voices, Ash Borer, and Mania all blow those out of the water
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>>61759490
Dead as Dreams for sure
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SUN
BAT
HER
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>>61759490
Kek

Obviously HEY
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US doesn't have good black metal

Except Von
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>>61759573
Bosse-de-Nage?
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What's that in the top left, I keep seeing it around but I always forget to image search it and I've never seen it with an artist/album name.
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>>61759659
fanisk - noontide
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>>61759545
I've got nothing against any of those bands, but they're all essentially 'Cascadian' worship music. (I haven't heard Leech)
>>61759567
Deafheaven have gotten progressively more banal with every release. Maybe Roads is a contender, but Sunbather is essentially just an hour of inoffensive atmospheric muck. It's by no means terrible, but to put it on the same level as Weakling or Liturgy or Velvet Cacoon's respective revelations is just insulting.
>>61759659
Noontide by Fanisk. IMO it has black metal's best lyrics, and the constant tug-of-war between Weakling-style riffing and majestic darkwave keys creates some of the most compositionally tense music in the US scene.
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NS is disgusting and you know it.
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>>61759780
Dude it's hardly even NS. They use the Nazi party as a symbolic reference to the perpetual rise and fall of empires, but it's not even slightly didactic or political.
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something by profanatica or demoncy
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>>61759805
There is a swastika on the fucking cover...

On topic though Weakling easily.
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>>61759490
I think I'm the only one on /mu/ that fucking hates The Mantle. I just don't see why you guys like it

>>61759844
Who cares?
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>>61759844
>There is a swastika on the fucking cover...
Yep, but as I said, symbols. The album isn't even slightly concerned with Aryan supremacy or whatever, it's just about man's propensity for destruction and subsequent rebirth. As well as black metal's natural tendency towards edginess, the Nazi party is a powerful symbol for strong and destructive empires. That's why the album starts and ends with mellow keyboards and Hitler samples. The noontide of the nazi party is over, and they're setting back into human history.

" Your light, it fell upon me,
In blazing veils of gold.
But Day had reigned already,
And there was little warmth left.
The winds caressed the weary trees,
And sang a last lament--
Unknowing if the light
Would e'er again return."
if you get 'fuck the jews' from that then I don't even know where to start.
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>>61759907
>b-but anon i s-still get offended by a symbol that became obsolete after WWII Hitler was the worst r-right guys?
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celestite
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Official list of genres that shouldn't be discussed on a normie board:
>black metal
>noise
>neofolk

Share your experoience
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>>61759976
deathmetal.org loves that album for some reason.
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>>61760053
>implying normies should be on 4chan
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>>61760070
regardless of that, they are here in vast majority
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>>61760053
>/mu/
>"normal"

Still all basement dwelling fucks if you ask me
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Wolves in the Throne Room and Panopticon are easily the best 2 atmoshit bands. The hipsters are right sometimes.
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>>61760241
"the hipsters" are a nebulous cultural strawman, and wittr are more of a riff-driven trance than pure atmosphere imo.

Anyway, Drudkh are the best atmoshit band overall, but in the US scene Panopticon are certainly up there
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>>61759490
The only good usbm band is absu
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>>61759490

it would have to be
WOLVES IN THE THRONE ROOM

this is coming from someone not in usa.
bunch of twats. pffff.
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out of those it isn't even a competition - noontide. both musically and aesthetically. wish it didn't have the NS motif though, makes it impossible to recommend to people
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>>61759490
Did you seriously include Liturgy and WITR over Inquisition?
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>>61759578
Try again.
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>>61759490
Weakling is the only actual BM band on there, and they're mediocre too. (Fanisk and Liturgy being cheesy fagcore disguised as BM and Agalloch being prog wankery)
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>>61761237
its a pleb filter, kicks out those who judge music on image.
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>>61761398
>kicks out those who judge music on image
It's not like 90% of Fanisk fans are there because it's wannabe-NSBM or anything.
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Liturgy. HHH is a twat but it doesn't change the fact that his music is amazing.
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>>61759490
It's Dead As Dreams; the ONLY correct answer.
>>61759545
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>61759860
No The Mantle sucks and Aggaloch are Cradle of Filth tier
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>>61761415
are you calling me wannabe natsoc?
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>>61761539
No, just probably a tryhard embarrassed to be listening to cheesy power metal, so instead you listen to cheesy power metal disguised as black metal.
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>>61761382
cool
here's your reply
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>>61761565
I listen to manowar sometimes, but other than that mostly DM and BM.

add me on last.fm
last.fm/user/mudvurkhal
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>>61761365
good band, but they're not from america
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>>61761604
Yes they are from America.
Both members are born in America. Dagon lived some of his youth in Cali, Colombia.
The band was founded in Cali with a different line up, but they played thrash metal and sucked.
When he moved to Seattle or whatever, he met Incubus (Colombian father) and started the black metal project we know as Inquisition.
They refer to themselves as an American band as well.
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>>61761593
I mostly listen to christian music so I don't add heathens and heretics.
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>>61761825
okay man
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>>61759490
Agalloch, Ashes Against The Grain
Deafheaven, Sunbather
Wolves In The Throne Room, Diadem Of 12 Stars
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>>61761842
>Deafheaven
>black metal
pls
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>>61761954
They aren't any less black metal than Fanisk or Agalloch.
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>>61761954
Well blackgaze technically, but people usually put them with USBM bands
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>>61761994
I never got this. Isn't shoegaze all about guitar effects and pedals? In most "blackgaze" the guitar is kind of vanilla, maybe with some reverb. deafheavens guitars are usually raw.
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>>61761978
>>61761978
literally shoegaze influenced post metal with screaming vocals and blastbeats

it might come close to atmoshit, but even as atmoshit it's a bland, diluted drone fest. genious tho, performing an imitation thats watered down just enough, so that edgy hipster will like it.
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>>61762027
I'm not sure but I think people call it that because they sometimes create that wall of sound effect a little
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>>61762029
my point still stands >>61761978
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>>61762029
back to metallum you go my man
take thise contrarian opinions with you
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>>61762055
nah. don't know about agalloch, but Fanisk is pretty decent melodic bm, unlike sunbather.
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>>61762130
Fanisk is cheesy power metal dressed up as black metal, it's basically like Bal-Sagoth, but with the extra cringe of taking their embarrassing music seriously.
Just like Agalloch and Sunbather are non-BM bands dressed up pretending to be BM.
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>>61762130
I wouldn't call the earlier albums from Agalloch black metal, but later they do have some influences from black metal. Especially when the new drummer joined on Marrow Of The Spirit. I do still like them though.
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>>61762176
> Dressed up

Well Deafheaven doesn't even try to look metal though. They look like normies.
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>>61762078
Well Deafheaven is actually on the metal archives. Which most people use to determine wether something is metal enough.
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>>61759490
aesthetica imho
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>>61762251
Do me a favor and take a peep at the reviews for Sunbather. You will understand what my comment meant .
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>>61762395
What's contrarian about it?
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>>61761382
if anything liturgy is prog wankery
agalloch is post-grunge disguised as BM, or, on the mantle, straight up neofolk
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>>61759490
Dead as Dreams definitely.
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Off the top of my head.

Profanatica's Profanatitas de Domonatia and Disgusting Blasphemies Against God.

Havohej's Dethrone the Son of God.

Demoncy's Joined in Darkness.

Averse Sefira - Pretty much everything.

Absu - The Sun of Tiphareth and Tara.

Unfortunately the US has never had a Black Metal scene as great as Europe's.

>Listening to Liturgy, Agalloch, Deafheaven etc. etc.

None of those Shoegaze bands would even qualify as Black Metal let alone masterpieces.
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Unpopular opinion: Marrow Of The Spirit is the best Agalloch album.
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>nobody mentions Judas Iscariot
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>>61763302
My nigga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtRrr08wLvA
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>>61759907
It isn't "fuck the jews" but it is still pretty National Socialist.
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>>61763007
>liturgy
>agalloch
>shoegaze
You didn't actually listen either album did you?
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>>61759490

> Memergy
> Weakling
> the Mantle
> "USBM Masterpiece"

ITT: hipsters discuss black metal
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>>61764139
Do you understand USBM at all?
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>>61764156

> what is Inquisition
> what is Judas Iscariot
> what is Absu
> what is Cobalt
> what is Bosse-de-Nage
> what is Averse Sefira
> what is Nachtmystium
> what is Castevet
> what is Leviathan
> what is Woe

with the exception of Fanisk, OP listed four p4k-level BM bands

and even then, Noontide is a /mu/ meme
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>>61764245
It's a good meme though
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its pic related
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pretty much essential listen

>>61764435
that's real nice too
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>>61762673
The Mantle is pretty terrible shit-tier post rock though
At least White EP is folk.
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>>61764459
I prefer pic related
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>>61763007
>>61759578
>>61763302
>>61759810
Only good answers in this thread, I'll add
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99hDoeD9bqA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn3wIy8x5KM
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>>61764500
>>61764459
Nocturnal Poisoning >
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>>61759490
the correct answer is Krallice - years past matter
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How am I like only the second person to mention Grand Belial's Key? Pic is the best USBM Black Metal album. None of the gimmicks of the dumb cascadian/or hipsters bullshit; it's straight up good songwriting/composition.
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>>61759545
Aren't like half of these Canadian?

Weakling by far. 10/10 album regardless of context, but it also did 90% of the gap-bridging between USDSBM and later USBM. It was probably the most influential black metal album since Filosofem.
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