Is it even possible to not like this album? Have you ever introduced

>>61733480
obvious shitpost. one of the worst albums ive ever heard.

I LOOVE YOOUUUU JESUUUUSU CHRIIIIIST

>>61733480
I like it, but I think it's pretty easy to dislike it - Jeff Mangum has a horrible voice, and all the talk of semen, the Jesus song, and "Oh Comely" are examples of him at his worst-sounding. I wouldn't show it to anyone.

my brother didnt care for it, but he likes dad rock so i didnt really expect him to.

terrible hipster sea shanties

I can see/understand people not liking it. In only so-so about it myself

>>61733480
I don't like it because you might as well be listening to The National since they're better in every way.

i showed it to my friend who is an opera singer and just generally really into music and he told me ''it's not as bad as i was expecting''

>>61734520
Your friend thinks you have shit taste?

>>61734362
this is dad rock

>>61734565
no he actually thinks my taste is good, he just doesnt normally listen to music that sounds like ITAOTS

I don't like it

bought this to my dad as a christmas present, he didn't care for it

>>61733547
Its more really fucking grating.
Do you like the album and still think his voice is horrible? Usually once people get past the strained nature of his singing you hear the power and range of his vocals

>>61734597
he pretty much hates anything not on classic rock stations

>>61733480

I imagine hairy vulva everytime I hear a song from the album.

clearly b8 but it is a really dull uninteresting album and the vocals are awful imo

>>61733480
My fedora-tipper classical music theory student friend obviously neglected it because it's "too simple". He'd rather listen to Porcupine Tree and other bland prog shit.

It is really fucking boring album, 5/10.

my brother said it was gay

>>61733547
Really? I'd consider Oh Comely to be the most conventionally 'good' song on the album.

its not that great of an album anyway. overrated af

My metal head brother fucking despises it

>>61733480

I gave it a listen and found it too lyric-heavy more my liking

Love the album and the band; I've got a friend who won't listen to them for more then 5 minutes straight

lent the CD to some guy from uni

He didn't like how "sexual" it was

>>61736909
Bro it goes on for way to long, look at the title track and Holland 1945 if you want it's best.
>>61737039
I like my music that way

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>>61737039
Wow, what a fag. It's like he doesn't even want to ejaculate onto Anne Frank.

My brother said it would be good if it wasn't for "I LOVE YOU JESUS CHRIST"

>>61736350
Is that "too simple" thing something common with music theory students? Because it happened to me before and I got mad about it, I mean you can just say you don't like it

if you show it to someone who goes in looking to not like it

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They said it was "eh." and "kinda boring."

mfw

I'm on the 3rd song of this album. When does it get good?

showed it to my sister
she said he only plays four chords and songs like crap
she listens to 21pilots btw

>>61733480

Some normies don't like anything that's oler than 15 years

>>61733547
But there is something about the subtle intensity of oh comely, it's soft and acoustic, but emotional and heartbreaking

>>61733480
I'm about to so I'll tell you how it goes

Will she remember me fifty years later?

>>61733480
I don't think it's universally accessible in its entirety, but I think anyone who doesn't initially appreciate songs like "The King Of Carrot Flowers pt. 1" and "Holland 1945" must be musically shallow or close-minded.

>>61739527
Why those two? The title track and Oh Comely would come to my mind first, when thinking about songs people would instantly like.

>>61733547
Mangum's voice is tremendous you retard. He sings in an unconventional nasal manner and people take it to mean he's a poor singer but his only flaw on this record is occasionally going a little higher than he can really manage on Oh Comely. Beyond that his lung capacity/breath control is excellent.

>all the talk of semen

He makes like two references to semen.

>the Jesus song

If people can't into that song then they're max pleb. It's extremely straightforward. The only kinda off putting thing is the lyrics.

>"Oh Comely" ... him at his worst-sounding

This guy.

>I wouldn't show it to anyone.

Congrats on being friends with the normiest of normies. Do you realize how popular and accessible this album is? Anybody with an even slightly open mind will be able to enjoy at least parts of it.

>>61733480
contraians are actual people so yes

>>61737131
"Too simple" is a common criticism among people who have a passing knowledge of music theory that they want to lord over everybody else. It's not actually a reasonable criticism of music because simplicity isn't inherently bad nor is complexity inherently good. However if they actually analyse the harmonic structure of the album and figure that it's too predictable for their tastes and that they prefer something more spontaneous or some shit then that's fair. But most don't do that. Most are just snobs.

>>61739614
I agree with everything you said.

>>61739570
They're instantly catchy - I would include the title track as well but "Oh Comely" may turn some people off due to the length.

>>61739614
>Mangum's voice is tremendous you retard.
It's not. His "unconventional nasal style" is seriously hard to listen to. All that's good is that he has volume, but there's nothing else special about it.
Two references to semen on two different tracks seemingly out of the blue stands out too much, and it's one of the things everybody remembers about this album. Whenever it's summed up in text, there's always reference to Jesus and to the mountain tops. Combined with an already poor, loud vocal, the lyric writing is unbelievably ugly, long-winded and erratic, and as much as their combination suits the subject matter, it makes everything that's not an instrumental sound uncomfortable and bad.
The Jesus song starts out immediately with his ugly voice and hardly any instrumentation to cover it up, so loud it's bordering on clipping. It works in the context of the album, but if I heard it for the first time on its own, I'd immediately stop listening.
I don't see how you can comfortably admit his range is garbage on "Oh Comely" and yet dismiss accusations that he sounds awful on the song (which is overlong and rambling, too sparsely-arranged to distract you from a shambolic vocal performance that never seems to end).
I mostly wouldn't show it to anyone because I'm not the kind of insufferable asshole who sends people "Hey, listen to this music you've never shown any interest in before!"-type messages out of the blue to fellate my own ego, but it's also because of a terrible frontman who drags down the quality of the rest of the band - people I've known in the past like the two instrumental tracks, but hate his voice.

>>61738611
Twenty One Pilots fans don't get to have opinions on what constitutes as good music.

It's impossible to get people's opinion of this album on /mu/ because of all the contrarians and ironic shitposting.

People say it's uninteresting or boring because they aren't paying attention to anything other than vocals or guitar when the album has good use of horns, accordion, and less orthodox intruments like the saw, and the pipes in untitled.

>>61733480
I've never liked it but then again folk rock has never been my thang.

>>61740158
..and others love his voice, oops.

>>61740221
There's a million-dollar scat porn industry, too - just because something sells doesn't mean it's actually any good.

>>61740221
does anyone actually "love" his voice or do they just tolerate it though? i love NMH but Jeff's a shit singer

>>61740239
It's fairly decent to those who like scat porn.

>>61740261
I love it.

Maybe this album was good at some point. Shitposts on /mu/ is everything I associate every second of it with nowadays however

>>61740158
>It's not. His "unconventional nasal style" is seriously hard to listen to.

>i don't like it so it's bad

Aight.

>Two references to semen on two different tracks seemingly out of the blue stands out too much

If you're underage, sure. Most adults won't get fixated on "LOL SEMEN XD" though.

>Combined with an already poor, loud vocal, the lyric writing is unbelievably ugly, long-winded and erratic

Ugly lyric writing?

Alright dude, there's no reasoning with you if you can't into the lyrics on this album.

>The Jesus song starts out immediately with his ugly voice and hardly any instrumentation to cover it up, so loud it's bordering on clipping. It works in the context of the album, but if I heard it for the first time on its own, I'd immediately stop listening.

It's an extremely catchy vocal line though. The only thing that makes it jarring is that he sings it in a way you don't like. That doesn't make that song or his voice bad.

>I don't see how you can comfortably admit his range is garbage on "Oh Comely" and yet dismiss accusations that he sounds awful on the song (which is overlong and rambling, too sparsely-arranged to distract you from a shambolic vocal performance that never seems to end).

He sings comfortably except at the end of the chorus which is maybe 10% of the song, so yeah, I have zero problems with his vocals for the most part on that song.

>I mostly wouldn't show it to anyone because I'm not the kind of insufferable asshole who sends people "Hey, listen to this music you've never shown any interest in before!"-type messages out of the blue to fellate my own ego

I guess you're too autistic to just recommend something to someone without being a prick about it. How is that anyone's problem but your own?

> people I've known in the past like the two instrumental tracks, but hate his voice.

You know plebs. I've shown this album to four different friends and they all took a while to warm up to it but they all fucking love it.

>>61740261
A lot of people love it you fucking goof. It's extremely expressive despite being unconventional, much like Joanna Newsom or Bob Dylan. Pretty goddamn obvious.

>>61740312
Now this is autism.

>>61740158
I don't think I've ever heard anybody attack his lyrics aside from the mentions of semen and jesus. His vocal style may be objectively bad, but that doesn't mean it immediately sounds horrible or is hard to listen to, you're opinion isn't fact. But what does "long winded" and "erratic" even mean in this context?

>>61740318
I do actually like the "uncomfortable" singing at the end of the chorus in Oh Comely. They're my favourite parts of the song, next to the time machine line.

>>61740354
Do you speak a second language? If you try thinking about the sentences he speaks like that, it gets frustrating, but I heard that bilingual people process words differently to people who just speak one.
Anyway, he's constantly adding new things, creating huge run-on sentences with phrases that don't end properly, and it's frustrating to hear.

>>61740435
I actually do speak a second language, and I understand what you're saying about the sort of droning, run on sentences, mainly on oh comely. It could be because of the melody of the song, but I think its a shitty song either way. I love the album and its lyrics though

>>61740318
>It's an extremely catchy vocal line though
Is that the case? I seem to remember he added too much vocal ornamentation (?) on the long notes, which he isn't at all equipped for. He's flailing all over the place, as if he's being picked up and vigorously shaken by somebody. Maybe you like that kind of thing, but I don't think of it as catchy. Anyway, what's jarring about that song isn't just the voice (the weakest instrument in their arsenal), but the way it's presented. When it first appears, it's obnoxiously loud and there's not much else going on, so already poor vocals are combined with a poor arrangement / production.

>He sings comfortably except at the end of the chorus which is maybe 10% of the song, so yeah, I have zero problems with his vocals for the most part on that song.

Maybe you're just very easy to please? He's hollering and straining pretty much the whole time, and you can only imagine the state his throat must have been in the next day. Add to that the song's runtime and its instrumentation, and you're forced to sit through awkward vocal contortions for too long.

The rest of your post is pretty much just petty insults, but when you make points they're at least good.

>>61740504
I like the album too, I just mentioned that I think it's possible (and understandable, if that were the case) to dislike it.

>>61740710
>I don't think of it as catchy.

Alright. Most people do though, so congrats for being in the minority I guess.

>Anyway, what's jarring about that song isn't just the voice (the weakest instrument in their arsenal), but the way it's presented. When it first appears, it's obnoxiously loud and there's not much else going on, so already poor vocals are combined with a poor arrangement / production.

You're still acting like his voice is objectively bad or something.

And it's literally deliberate that the instrumentation just drone on while Mangum carries the motion of the song, then the instrumentation catches up to him and then both align and gain more and more momentum as it explodes into the next part. It's all deliberate dude, it's plenty well arranged. Just because you don't like it doesn't make it weak.

>Maybe you're just very easy to please?

I'm very liberal with vocalists and how much they appeal to me, yes. I'm a classically trained vocalist but the human voice fascinates me in its versatility and that doesn't necessarily come across specifically in people who are singing "objectively" well.

>>61741021
>And it's literally deliberate that the instrumentation just drone on while Mangum carries the motion of the song [...]

I know that. Ultimately it's a smart choice, but thinking about it in terms of first-time listeners, it has strong potential to be one of the more off-putting moments, and as someone who hates JM's voice, I still wince at it every time.

My close friends dig it. One of them is a grungefag, one's a Beatles/Pink Floyd guy, and one listens to almost exclusively death metal. I don't really know why they enjoyed it

>>61733480
>Have you ever introduced someone to it and gotten a negative reaction?
Yes, myself.

Out of curiosity. What ppl who disliked Jeff themes think about Jordaan Mason songs? Like jordaan has similar but even more strained voice, even more sexual imaginery and weird lyrics n shit.

Yea my bf thought it'd be a good idea to show it to his brother who only listens to is bland ass pop rap so I was not shocked when he called it weird ass music. Pleb. As. Fuck.

Complete shit album

hipsters like it

pretty much everyone else doesn't care enough to comment on it. People like Hospice a lot more when I put it on though even though NO DRUMS