Honest thoughts on Blackstar? I personally didn't enjoy

>>61718382
this 100%
you nailed it

>mostly boring rock, with some jazz that doesn't work thrown in.

But...this is true for almost all of Bowie's albums.

You know that if he didn't die the reviews would be pretty average. Fantano would have gave it a 6, p4k maybe a 7.
And /mu/ would literally forget this album and claim his career has died.

Because he's dead this album is now 100% crtically acclaimed and people have become blindsighted by the fact he died after making it.

It's basically music fans with the emotional depth of a peanut being all edgy that "Woah bro he like died after making thid album, ever think about that bro?"

>>61718382
i didn't care for it really, but i've never been into bowie's music. blackstar lyrics were pretty cringy for desu, "im not a ganster, i'm not a pornstar" etc.

i honestly don't think this album would have received this high acclaim without bowie's death.

>>61718382
I semi agree,
but it's not good as his older albums

7/10

>>61718485
contrarian faggot

>>61718485
P4K rated it an 8.5 before he died and the RYM score was close to 3.8 already.

>>61718485
But p4k rated it b4 he died, anon.

>>61718485
The pitchfork 8.5 review came out before his death though

>>61718382

I liked it. But now I say I don't so I go against the grain

>>61718485
>tfw you find the strength to put forward one final artistic statement in your dying days, complete with lyrical nods to your acceptance of death, all-the-while releasing it without any disclaimer as to the condition of your health
>tfw some neckbeard on the music subcategory of an anime forum will take objection to this
>tfw was it really worth it?

>>61718382
Great from start to finish

>>61718485
>ignoring that it already received positive reviews and much of /mu/ had already rated it highly before the big news
I want reddit to leave.

Any of you faggots who think the context of Bowie's cancer has no effect or shouldn't be considered with the album's quality needs to fucking grow up, because you don't know fucking anything about music.

I thought it was really good.

I don't really see how Sue and Tis' A Pity relate to the theme of the album, though.

>Blackstar is about your legacy outliving yourself and inspiring generations to take your place
>Lazarus is about the struggle to come with terms with encroaching death
>Girl Loves Me is a remembrance of the old coke and groupies days and how they were just a waste of time in the end
>Dollar Days is finding reasons to keep fighting for life
>Can't Give Away Everything is an apology for not being able to give more to the world before he died

My rating on first listen before his death was maybe 6.5/10. I'd give it 7.5/10 now as it's grown on me with further listens. Was tempting to boost it up to at least an 8 with his death but have to be honest.

"I can't give everything away" is arguably one of the best closing tracks of all time.

>>61718754
An album shouldn't rely on someone dying to be good. Besides, the vocals/lyrics are just a fraction of the music.

>>61718806

It's tied with Going Up and Decades for the Most Depressing Closer award.

>>61718485

But it's a concept album about death and the reaction of his fans, him dying is relevant to understand the meaning of this particular masterpiece. Are you an autistic person by any chance?

>>61718755
I view them as glimpses to his mindset before he got the cancer news. On a more practical level, they help provide contrast, and to remind us of how much has changed for him in a short space of time so that the emotional tracks are taken more seriously.

>>61718485
welcome neo-/mu/

>>61718821
It doesn't rely on it, but without the conscious knowledge that he was dying this record would not have been made. It's absolutely irrefutably essential to the music.
If you still don't like it that's fine, but don't claim that him dying doesn't have any effect on the music. That makes you as bad as those "music is objective" faggots.

>>61718912
You make good points. I should reconsider if his death really is a part of the album.

Do you think that he was holding on before Blackstar released, and after that he let himself go?

I listened to it a few hours before the news came out and I thought it was a solid 8/10, really liked it but not GOAT or anything. Then later I heard about it and gave it another go and liked it even more now that I knew what went on behind the production. You can't knock people for connecting with an album about death more when the creator dies days after it releases. I'd give it a 9/10 now with the context

>>61718977
I heard at least one person say it was medically assisted suicide but I don't know.

>>61718485

Except for all the people calling it AOTY before his death.

>>61719042
You do realise a lot of people saying that would have been jesting right? It's January

>>61718677
>abloo bloo, some people don't like my music ;(
I think that Bowie got over this fact 40 years ago.

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>>61718485
>mfw people actually disagree with this guy

>>61719319
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.

>>61719319

Yeah that guy is retarded and Blackstar works a masterpiece taking Bowie's death into account

>>61719319
I can't wait to take your bait m8

>>61718485
Listening to the album in the context of his death makes the album better. Bowie released it knowing that the album wouldn't work on the level it was intended to until after he'd died.

How many people from /mu/ do you think actually listen to David Bowie? I feel like all the contrarian faggots haven't even heard one full album.

>>61718755
Finally, someone who actually interpreted the title track correctly and isn't just spouting the breast cancer spots meme

>>61718382
Dollar Days is the besto with 'Tis a Pity coming close.

Blackstar is the Station to Station part II.
Lazarus and Dollar Days one of the best songs in 10 years.

>>61718382
Reminds me of Pop Group's latest album but good

>>61718485
If he wasnt dying then Blackstar wouldnt exist. It is the heart of the album.

correct!

>>61718382
>jazz that doesn't work
nice bait desu. mademereply/10

>>61718382
But it's all rock and pop.

>Bowie releases a shitty album then dies
>Context matters! 10/10!
>geniuses of contemporary art music make well-crafted compositions or indeterminate pieces that they record
>I don't have to know anything about the history of avant-garde music since serialism to know this is avant-teen garbage! 0/10!

fuck redditors and teenagers

>>61720336
You'd have a point if the album wasn't well received before he died.
Unfortunately for you, it was.

>>61720362
i have even more of a point with those people

>Bowie releases a faux-experimental garbage album
>I don't need to know anything about the history of avant-garde music since serialism to know this is the most experimental album in rock history! 10/10!

>>61720390
Literally no one said it was 'the most experimental album in rock history' lmao. Stop being bad.

>>61718382
Absolutely loved it. "Blackstar" alone was by itself better than those horrible "dance" albums after Scary Monsters. Loved Lazarus and Tis a Pity She Was a Whore as Well. The rest were pretty good.

Loved it so much, I bought a physical copy in the 8th right when it came out. David Bowie's Death only improved the album, since a lot falls in place when you realize he made an entire album about his own death

Easily a Top 5 in David Bowie's records

>>61720424
the second "Blackstar" the single dropped, every fuckhead /mu/tant and his mom was going on and on on RYM about how le experimental it was even though it was Boards of Canada drum patterns under an old-ass crooner pretending he has the theatricality of latter-day Scott Walker with le Radiohead Grammy nominated Best Rock Album transitions to give the illusion of progression and intricacy

>>61720390
It was well received because people did know the history of avant-garde music, and nobody ever claimed it was "most experimental" or anything like that. Unless you only frequent utter pleb sites.
Wait, I'll do next one for you:
>Bowie releases an album with a star on it's cover
>It's the first time I see cover art like that because I'm underage and it's amazingly minimalistic and has tremendous poetic resonance! 10/10!

>>61718485
>p4k maybe a 7
I'm always shocked that people just blindly say things without a 2 second Google beforehand.

>>61718485
He turned his fucking death into an art project, not many artists can stand a face to face with death on their music projects, not that close as Bowie on Blackstar (Maybe only J Dilla)

I was hoping for more jazz flavor since he was using jazz musicians and everything - now it's mostly just some pretty safe sounding sax solos

>>61720471
>It was well received because people did know the history of avant-garde music
what

>>61720505
You could tell the sax soloist was used to playing jazz. The runs were a bit too technically focused rather than expressive.

>>61720542
Try googling the words if they were too hard.

>>61720390
Kill yourself, dumb nigger

>>61720390
Of course
You can craft a point for everything
A negative can be found about just anything from a certain point of view
You're not special

>>61720500
This. It was already pretty good to begin with, but even if p4k had given it a 5 before his death, it would be reasonable for them to change it.