Honest thoughts on Blackstar?
I personally didn't enjoy it much. Blackstar and Lazarus are good, but other than those we just have mostly boring rock, with some jazz that doesn't work thrown in.
You know that if he didn't die the reviews would be pretty average. Fantano would have gave it a 6, p4k maybe a 7.
And /mu/ would literally forget this album and claim his career has died.
Because he's dead this album is now 100% crtically acclaimed and people have become blindsighted by the fact he died after making it.
It's basically music fans with the emotional depth of a peanut being all edgy that "Woah bro he like died after making thid album, ever think about that bro?"
i didn't care for it really, but i've never been into bowie's music. blackstar lyrics were pretty cringy for desu, "im not a ganster, i'm not a pornstar" etc.
i honestly don't think this album would have received this high acclaim without bowie's death.
>tfw you find the strength to put forward one final artistic statement in your dying days, complete with lyrical nods to your acceptance of death, all-the-while releasing it without any disclaimer as to the condition of your health
>tfw some neckbeard on the music subcategory of an anime forum will take objection to this
>tfw was it really worth it?
Any of you faggots who think the context of Bowie's cancer has no effect or shouldn't be considered with the album's quality needs to fucking grow up, because you don't know fucking anything about music.
I thought it was really good.
I don't really see how Sue and Tis' A Pity relate to the theme of the album, though.
>Blackstar is about your legacy outliving yourself and inspiring generations to take your place
>Lazarus is about the struggle to come with terms with encroaching death
>Girl Loves Me is a remembrance of the old coke and groupies days and how they were just a waste of time in the end
>Dollar Days is finding reasons to keep fighting for life
>Can't Give Away Everything is an apology for not being able to give more to the world before he died
My rating on first listen before his death was maybe 6.5/10. I'd give it 7.5/10 now as it's grown on me with further listens. Was tempting to boost it up to at least an 8 with his death but have to be honest.
But it's a concept album about death and the reaction of his fans, him dying is relevant to understand the meaning of this particular masterpiece. Are you an autistic person by any chance?
I view them as glimpses to his mindset before he got the cancer news. On a more practical level, they help provide contrast, and to remind us of how much has changed for him in a short space of time so that the emotional tracks are taken more seriously.
It doesn't rely on it, but without the conscious knowledge that he was dying this record would not have been made. It's absolutely irrefutably essential to the music.
If you still don't like it that's fine, but don't claim that him dying doesn't have any effect on the music. That makes you as bad as those "music is objective" faggots.
You make good points. I should reconsider if his death really is a part of the album.
Do you think that he was holding on before Blackstar released, and after that he let himself go?
I listened to it a few hours before the news came out and I thought it was a solid 8/10, really liked it but not GOAT or anything. Then later I heard about it and gave it another go and liked it even more now that I knew what went on behind the production. You can't knock people for connecting with an album about death more when the creator dies days after it releases. I'd give it a 9/10 now with the context
>mfw people actually disagree with this guy
Listening to the album in the context of his death makes the album better. Bowie released it knowing that the album wouldn't work on the level it was intended to until after he'd died.
>Bowie releases a shitty album then dies
>Context matters! 10/10!
>geniuses of contemporary art music make well-crafted compositions or indeterminate pieces that they record
>I don't have to know anything about the history of avant-garde music since serialism to know this is avant-teen garbage! 0/10!
fuck redditors and teenagers
i have even more of a point with those people
>Bowie releases a faux-experimental garbage album
>I don't need to know anything about the history of avant-garde music since serialism to know this is the most experimental album in rock history! 10/10!
Absolutely loved it. "Blackstar" alone was by itself better than those horrible "dance" albums after Scary Monsters. Loved Lazarus and Tis a Pity She Was a Whore as Well. The rest were pretty good.
Loved it so much, I bought a physical copy in the 8th right when it came out. David Bowie's Death only improved the album, since a lot falls in place when you realize he made an entire album about his own death
Easily a Top 5 in David Bowie's records
the second "Blackstar" the single dropped, every fuckhead /mu/tant and his mom was going on and on on RYM about how le experimental it was even though it was Boards of Canada drum patterns under an old-ass crooner pretending he has the theatricality of latter-day Scott Walker with le Radiohead Grammy nominated Best Rock Album transitions to give the illusion of progression and intricacy
It was well received because people did know the history of avant-garde music, and nobody ever claimed it was "most experimental" or anything like that. Unless you only frequent utter pleb sites.
Wait, I'll do next one for you:
>Bowie releases an album with a star on it's cover
>It's the first time I see cover art like that because I'm underage and it's amazingly minimalistic and has tremendous poetic resonance! 10/10!
He turned his fucking death into an art project, not many artists can stand a face to face with death on their music projects, not that close as Bowie on Blackstar (Maybe only J Dilla)