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Based Bowie did it
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What's so special about 4/5? Serious question.
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>>61709627
Expect a 5 in a month.
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>>61709645
Ur mom is special ;)
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>>61709645
The highest rated album on RYM (OKC) is a 4.23
Let that sink in
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>>61709645
Very very few albums reach a 4 on RYM. Basically guarantees it'll be in the top of the decade
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>>61709658
Not true. That's the "top-rated" album of all time, not the highest-rated. On the first page of "top-rated", that honor goes to Charles Mingus' Black Saint and the Sinner Lady
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The Pavement records don't deserve 4.0+.
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>>61709627
was at 3.80 before his death, pls stop overrating
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>>61709900
But it improved as an album in context. I thought it was even better post-Bowie so I rated it higher.
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>>61709627
it's back down to 3.99
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>>61710961
the contrarians jumped in as soon as possible
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>>61709645

Because it means positive reviews outweigh edgekids ragging on it.
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>>61709627
One of the best albums of the decade.
Well deserved
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>>61709645

It's hard to get more because there is a shitton of kids rating 1 everything that's not Kanye doing monkey shit.
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>>61709627
Time to give it half a star then
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>>61711229
Kanye has a few ones to you know?
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>>61711229
I'd say kiddies who authomatically rate every metal release is a bigger problem. That's why every yearly top 20 feature at least 4 tasteless albums with guts on the cover that nobody gives a shit about except those people.
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>>61711344
>rate every metal release as 5/5
fixed
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>>61709627
BETTER
THAN
KENDRICK
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>>61711206
Is that Chris-chan?
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>>61709709
This. It depends on how many ratings/reviews the album has gotten, as well as the score.
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>>61709627
seriously this album is good but not that good
and I'm a fan of bowie the marketing genius
at least he beat the cuckold/white guilt meme
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This is the first 4.00 in the 2010s and the 6th in the 21st century.
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>>61711783
So there are 1,500 albums higher than 4.0, but only 6 of those are from post 2000? what the fuck
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>>61712181
when people seek out a classic old album they intend to rate it high

big modern albums that deserve 4+ get exposed to a lot of people who don't "get" the style and rate it anyway because they rate all modern music
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>>61711229
>everything that's not Kanye doing monkey shit

You're fucking retarded

All Kanye albums have a really high number of 0.5 ratings
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Why do RYM plebs rate Hunky Dory higher than Heroes and Low?
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>>61712256
muh Changes
muh Life on Mars

I'd imagine
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>>61711344
>>61711354
Oh fuck off you idiots

Metal albums rarely get into top 10 and they always get downrated by rap and indie fags
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>>61709769
this desu
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I want it to do good, but ratings like these are always shat on by faggots using the all-or-nothing model of rating either 5/5 or 1/5.
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>>61712287
That's because metal is shit and for babies ;^)
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>>61711229
>everything that's not Kanye doing monkey shit.

Hello Reddit
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>>61712323
Metal is the only interesting genre that still does new things unlike your rapping over stolen beats and whining over few chords
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>>61712381
epic
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>>61712381
Grow up. You have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>61712318

Blackstar is a clear 5/5 tho
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>>61712181
Just because it's a 4 doesn't mean it gets higher rated, it all depends on how many ratings it has. There are plenty of post 2000 albums that are in the top 1500.
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>>61712402
Great counter-argument!
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>>61712318
not really, those people's ratings are weighted 0% by rym
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>>61712323
>>61712402
If you have nothing worthwhile to add to a debate, please shut up and fuck off out of it.
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>>61712287
>rap and indie fags
At least those genres are good.
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>>61709658
Sinner Lady is 4.37 as I recall
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>>61712381
Hello pre-2009 /mu/ poster! Did you get tired of eating Cheetos and playing Guitar Hero III and decide to check up on /mu/?
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>>61712606
>rap and indie
>good
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>>61712626
Well, i'm convinced rap is better now!
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>>61712381
>implying metal isn't just screaming over one palm muted power chord with le ebin so fast su randum shredding on top
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>>61712381
>Lengy Kimlister Rip ;( ;( ;(
>I liek metal xD
>yuo cant spele crap wihtot rap :%>
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worst thread on /mu/ right now
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>>61712626
it really is kinda funny how different the board was back then

interesting times
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>>61712181
People are blinded by nostalgia. I have no idea why, but many people think music from the past is often objectively better, which is just not true.
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have you ever been so angry at someone else's post you became incoherent?

cause this guy >>61712750 has
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>>61712793
But it was

Are you seriously thinking today's rap albums are as good as 60s jazz and 70s progressive rock
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Why are anti-metal fags way more annoying than actual metal fans here
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>>61712832
lmao
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>>61712832
I know you're trying to troll, but yes, some of them are.

There's more genres today than ever before. Why would the quality decrease? It's purely nostalgia and because people seek out albums "already considered masterpieces", so they rate them with this in mind
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>>61712868
you're an annoying faggot stop posting you fucking nerd
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Metal is one of the most samey genres of at all time, especially progressive metal. If you've heard one prog metal album you've heard every single one, it's all pretentious uninventive wankery.
Yes, there is good metal, but 80% of the metal albums on the top 100 of every year are just god fucking awful and only get highly rated because of wankers like >>61712381 who refuse to believe that anything other than metal is good, and strawmans the fuck out of the genres he's brought up to hate.

Genres like power metal, prog metal and speed metal require proficient guitar playing and that's literally it. The metal being released nowadays is no different from the metal released in the 80s and 90s. It's all over-produced. commercial garbage and anyone who tries to defend it as much as >>61712381 is a deluded crybaby.
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>>61712832
le wrong generation

go put on your rose tinted beatles goggles music defener and fuck off
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>>61712908
i can't find a source for this
fresh pasta, nice
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>>61712793
>in 30 years time early 21st century records will be regarded as classics
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>defending meal
>2016
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this started out as a david bowie thread
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>>61712881
>yes, some of them are
>monkey music created by music
>better than music created by white people
hmmmm
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>>61712381
>all these butthurt P4k drones
Kek
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>>61712925
this
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>>61712952
/pol/ out fishing I see
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>>61712870
>>61712881
>>61712892
Great counter arguments, you totally proved me wrong
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>>61712925
this tbqh

>>61712977
fuck off stop posting already cunt
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>>61712945
>implying any /mu/ thread doesn't descend into intense shitposting after about 20 posts
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>>61712908
Another retarded tripfag
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>>61712881
>Why would the quality decrease?

I don't really disagree with your overall point but I'll play devil's advocate here

You could argue that the general rate of quality has decreased because:

-There's less of an emphasis on albums as coherent pieces of art, more focus on singles and mixtapes, in this sense we've regressed to a pre-60s music industry. Which isn't to say you can't have decent music, but we will see less great albums.

-There are obvious benefits to music production with computers, but one negative is that there is a lot of amateur crap out there being made by people who wouldn't have had access to real recording equipment before. The computer can be a powerful production tool but most people don't know how to use it well and end up with something really uninteresting.

-The internet allows people to release their work to everyone instantly. Again, this can be a good thing, but when so much of it is bland, poorly produced ambient, bedroom folk/pop, etc., it makes it tougher to find the really good stuff. Back then, a band would slowly hone their skills/style in relative anonymity for months or years before releasing a proper album, now they often do it way too soon and predictably, it sucks.
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>>61712979
Shut up you retard

If you really believe any overhyped pitchfork mediocrity stands to actually innovative albums of the Past you are brainwashed
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>>61713010
>he thinks popular music is innovative
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>>61713008
You gotta keep in mind though, along with a shit ton of amateur crap, we also get a lot more forward thinking and new sounds.

I mean, /mu/ alone has spawned a few new genres. It's a giant ocean of inspiration, and it allows artists to be even more diversified imo.
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>>61713026
Some of it was
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>>61713010
>everything I don't like is Pitchfork

nice opinions
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>>61712952
>implying jazz is white people music
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>>61713032
like what?
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>>61713010
Fuck off nerd you are a fucking loser

>you are le brainwashed meme

haha ok kiddo
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Is there a way to see the distribution of votes on RYM? How many people voted it each rating
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>>61713122
Yeah, bottom of an album's page
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I just love how retards bitch about 2-3 metal albums in chart flooded with generic pitchfork approved music
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>>61713031
>It's a giant ocean of inspiration
More like a giant swamp, but I understand your point

What are some of the great albums that have come from the various internet microgenres of the past few years? I've listened to a lot of vaporwave but I don't really care for most of it.
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>>61709627
He only did it because he's dead.
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>>61713070
Jazz, progressive rock and Krautrock
Some new wave albums
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>>61713133
ah never looked that far, thanks
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>>61712952
defeners confirmed for /pol/shits
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>>61713134
I just love how retards bitch about how nobody likes their edgy middle school genre
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Fuck off talking about your shitty metal on a Bowie thread guys
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>>61713195
spot the pitchfork drone
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>>61713142
Well, I've found a "microartist" with some great ideas

Cities Aviv - Come to Life
it's one of my favorite 2014 albums
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>>61711215
xD what a meme
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>>61712988
Ebin argument
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btw, does anyone know when the 2010s chart on RYM gets updated? It still has the score from a few days ago
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>>61712381
LOL
>palm muting
>screaming
and that's about it
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you all have shit opinions
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>>61712381
Are you kidding?
One of the most popular complaints with metal is that it's been stale and unproductive for almost two decades now, with the exception of a few albums.
Like, I'm not saying rap is better than metal or metal is better than rap but if you're gonna spout opinions as if they were fact at least be right about it.
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>>61712908
This is correct.
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Best thread on /mu/ right now
It's time we expel these metalfags back to leddit
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>>61712881
It isn't that the quality of music nowadays is decreasing, it's that everyone is constantly trying to make something new which in turn, to people like me, becomes overloading. We also don't see behavioural changes driven by music nowadays that are the same calliber that we're used to, you know, with the exception of twrrking and boyband fever. Which is ok too, but it doesn't speak to me or to a lot of people in the slightest.

The mainstream is a bit of a letdown compared to the past, and the smaller, creative scenes are so experimental that people are left not knowing where to look. A lot of musicians are very good, but nobody is exceptional. I just find the current music situation scattered and a little lost.
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>>61712381
Thanks for the screen cap material, m8
you can go back to your basement now
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>>61709627
it was like 3.6 before he died lmao
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>>61712181
all these people that don't understand how rym works. jesus christ. that album's position is based on when it was 3.8 with much less votes
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last week when i gave it a 3 it was at like 3.5 which is a better rating
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>>61714946
I don't use RYM, I'm not a pleb.
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>>61714969
post your 2015 aoty list senpai :^)
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>>61712380
"all people who don't like Kanye are reddit fags"
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>>61712739
the way 4chan obviously shaped your vocabulary makes it really easy for me to believe that you're underage
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>>61709769
>having an opinion this bad
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>>61712381 you are more retarded than people who think that hair metal was more influential than alternative.
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>>61711215
Agreed.

Certainly more deserved than C&L's or TPAB's ratings were last year.
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>>61709627
Better than TPAB confirmed. As it should be.
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>>61709627
Tfw David fucking Bowie drops the best record of the 2010s (so far) and his best since his Berlin era.
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6/10 at best
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>>61716135
CONTRARIAN PLEB
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>>61714924
yeah it's really disgusting. bowie would condemn all those bandwagoning faggots
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>>61712381
18+
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This are the top albums of the 10's according to rym.

Can Blackstar get the 1st spot? it's much more deserving than the album that is currently in the 1st spot imo
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>>61716710

>Carrie & Lowell
>The Seer instead of To Be Kind

I want to vomit.
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>>61716710
any idea when the rating will update? it's still like 3.86 on the 2010s chart
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>>61716747
Well I love The Seer more than To Be Kind, to be honest.

>>61716750
idk, but if i had to make a guess, it will take few days.
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>>61709709
Is Mingus truly the all time top rated? I feel like something obscure with three votes all being 5s would be top rated there, no?
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>>61716747
Pleb
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>>61716789
they weigh the number of votes into the ranking
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>>61716710
normie
cuck
cuck
shitty indie
good

well could have been worse i suppose
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>>61709914
This,he turned his own death in to an artistic event. He knew his image was a really important part of his music and he took that concept to the extreme.

Wether you like it or not, you can't deny that this album release is one of the most important things that happened to music probably in the last 30 years.
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>>61716710
>the seer better than to be kind

tommo paneKeKu
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>>61716934
IMO The Seer has a wider emotional variety than To Be Kind, and also has higher high points.

Both of them are incredible though
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>>61716934
>the seer
9/10
>tpab
3/10

hmm
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>>61712793
People are blinded by novelty. I have no idea why, but many people think music from the present is often objectively better, which is just not true.
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>>61716789
holy shit what a fucking retard of course there are like 99999 5 albums we are talking about the ones with a substantial amount of votes
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>>61709627
>post-mortem rating inflation
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>>61717066
Blackstar is a legitimately great album, death or not.
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>>61716826
how is this important in any way?
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>>61709627
can we all agree that it's not actually experimental though
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>>61717066
It's had a 3.79 rating on the night before his death was announced.
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>>61717593
Some of the jazz sections are pretty out there. Especially on Sue and 'Tis a Pity
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So will he be raised from the dead tomorrow like lazarus was(after 4 days since he died)?
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>>61709627
The more i listen to "Blackstar" the more it grows on me. Its such a strange song.
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tons of album get a 4.0 on rym shortly after release. it will go down eventually.
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>>61717746
Not from 3000 ratings though
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>blackstar rated higher than heroes
>triggered
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>>61717698
Blackstar 2
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>>61717758

It'll go down though. To Pimp A Butterfly had around a 4.12 when it had a couple thousand ratings, now it's at 3.97.
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>hip-hop
>good

lmao good one guys jokes over tho you can all stop playing around now
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>>61715514
>liking a band this bland
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Check out this very rare Bowie Footage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wCLmrap83E
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>>61718139
LOL
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>>61717217
>the death of one of the greatest artist of the xx century turned into performance art by his autor just before dying. And mergin his death and his last work into one.

Yeah i agree, overrated album.
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>>61717883
In my opinion Blackstar is going to go up even more before the ratings will start going down

The album is much more worthy than MBDTF to be ranked as the 1st highest record of the decade imo...
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>>61718139
quit spamming your channel on /mu/,
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>>61717664
I disagree. maybe experimental from a pop standard but no innovation imo. which isn't necessarily a bad thing but people are claiming a falsity
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>>61719762
But I don't think experimental and innovative are the same thing. Maybe avant-garde is more appropriate, but either way it's a jazz sound that draws from experimental/Free Jazz genres, and the scales used are pretty distinct and unconventional.
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so did you guys see this? A lot of you, including myself, will have correctly assumed this, but now it's confirmed.
http://www.factmag.com/2016/01/13/blackstar-unreleased-tracks/
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>>61709709
>tfw Scaruffi meme is the highest rated album on rym

don't get me wrong it's good but not that good
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>tfw lost my station to station CD
I really wanted to hear that today too guys.
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Shit taste pretentious RYM users upped the score after bowie died because songs in Blackstar infer his death. (doesn't make the album better, or any better than Heroes and Scary Monsters for example, and it got higher scores than them now).
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>>61720246
>scaruffi meme
holy fuck what are you smoking you stupid faggot?
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3.7/5 record desu
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>>61720462
>youtube
literally just type it in you fucking idiot
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I listened to it.

It's good, but the issue you have is that people are hailing it like it's the second coming of Christ or some shit and it's not. It's a refreshing album though, and the lyrics are really well done.
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>>61721383
He literally is though. Resurrected tomorrow, mark my words.
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>>61717066
It was liked before, but considering this album is essentially his epitaph it definitely takes on far greater meaning now he's died- putting much of the album in to sharper focus, it's impossible to separate the album and his death
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>>61712395
>>61712402
>>61712626
>>61712739
>>61712750
>>61712908
>>61713548
>>61714911
>>61715572
>>61716456
You all keep proving his point
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>>61712908
>pretentious uninventive wankery
Opinion discarded
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>>61716710
Hahahaha and people complain about metal on the charts

The highest rated metal album of the 10s is on fucking 22th place and the next is 33th
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>>61713873
>twrrking and boyband fever. Which is ok too, but it doesn't speak to me or to a lot of people in the slightest.
because you have autism
>The mainstream is a bit of a letdown compared to the past
because you have autism
>smaller, creative scenes are so experimental that people are left not knowing where to look
because you have autism
>I just find the current music situation scattered and a little lost.
because you have autism
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>>61716710
>it's much more deserving than the album that is currently in the 1st spot imo
no
And there is plenty of other albums that have been released this decade that are far better than Blackstar, sonically and conceptually. There are literally vaporwave albums that are more more worthy of #1 than Blackstar.
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>>61721439
Imagine the backlash if he actually faked his death and came back just for a biblical motif.
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>>61716750
It only just last updated on Tuesday, it updates pretty much every Tuesday on most weeks so it will be another 5 days until we get the updated chart.
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>>61722411
>There are literally vaporwave albums that are more more worthy of #1 than Blackstar
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>>61716710
#37th best album of the 2010s is standup comedy
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/tig_notaro/live/
Every day we stray further from God's light
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>>61722495
why tf are live albums, comedy albums, game and anime osts and film soundtracks always over inflated in score smfh
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>>61722495
In this chart, Colored Sands is in the 37th place.
http://rateyourmusic.com/customchart?page=1&chart_type=top&type=album&year=2010s&genre_include=1&include_child_genres=1&genres=&include_child_genres_chk=1&include=both&origin_countries=&limit=none&countries=

Well Colored Sands is an absolutely excellent album if you ask me
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>>61722573
Because only fans listen to them

>anime osts
Only Cowboy bebop is rated high
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>>61709645
because theres always those dumbasses who rate things like 0.5-1.0 stars even though VERY few albums are actually deserving of a rating of 0.5-1.0 stars. so that means without the obviously retarded ratings being taken into consideration, its more like a 4.4-4.5
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>>61712287
dumb metalhead. rap and indie may be boring but at least its not both boring and autistic like metal
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>>61722573
>>61722660
I agree alot of soundtracks get overrated ratings.

but it's not literally "always". some soundtracks deserve a high rating. I never saw the movie Goodbye Lenin! for example, but the soundtrack of it is truly beautiful

It got a score of 3.73 with 500 ratings, i'm okay with that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfwWKCRth_A

>>61722739
That was really mean and disrespectful anon.
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>>61722739
better be autistic than wigger cuck
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>>61722826
>>61722739
Can't you both express disagreements in a more polite way!?

come on now
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>>61716747
>>61716934
the seer is objectively better than tbk
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>>61722848
shut up kike
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>>61711783
How did you find out that 6 albums in the 21st century have above a 4? I'd love to view a chart where I could filter by rating and number of votes.
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So far so good
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Blackstar == fire
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>>61723250
truuuuu fammm
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HE DID IT!
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>>61719489
right...Death really fucks with people's album rating perception.
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>>61723584
>5.00
>#1,549 overall
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>>61712287
are you kidding me? metal albums are massively overrated on RYM. subtracting 0.25 from all metal scores is a decent rule of thumb. not to say anything bad about the music itself, there are just lots of dumb metalheads on RYM
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If you like the music, then listen to it.

Stop caring about ratings, and what other people think
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Is it possible to even get this album for a decent price anymore? I didn't pre-order because TND was shit but this might be my fav bowie

Like seriously I saw it for $800 on discogs
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>>61723804
>metal albums are massively overrated on RYM
Kek not any more than all the rap and indie bullcrap
And they almost always get massively downrated unless they are really overhyped
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>>61722420
that would actually be the greatest act of art ever
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>>61724783
No it wouldn't. If he actually did that it would nullify all the sincerity and genuine fear of death in his album because he was actually just playing a practical joke.
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>>61724844
you`re right
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