4 track general

No, CD's outdated them LONG ago.

>>61550285
CDs will never make a comeback because all they do is store data. Cassette does have its own unique sound, that digital just cannot replicate

>>61550260
Gene Ween told me to get one, so I bought one and it's really awesome. Got an organic feels

>>61550310
Yeah you're right, the sound of lo-fi garbage shit can't be replicated by digital lmao.

>>61550334
>lofi
>bad

hello reddit

>>61550260
Yeah i have a portaone still in working condition and a mk244 like in your pic. Use it for mastering lo fi shit and as a send for dirtying up drums etc

>>61550333
Totally, such cool sounds

>>61550334
Found deadmau5

>>61550260
Where can I get a cheap one? Like maybe something older-cheap, in the 50 dollars and below range?

>>61550385
you won't find it on the net for that price. Yard sales/markets

>>61550385
thrift shops like value village, or even on craigslist

though if you're in a big city you'll probably miss some or pay a bit more than you'd like. the lo-fi aesthetic has been getting pretty big again and a lot of people are picking these up to be 'authentic'

>>61550417
What's the cheapest you can find one on online for? Shit really shouldn't be expensive.

>>61550359
>Intentionally making sound quality shit
>Muh aesthetic muh ambience muh car seat headrest/daniel johnson/teen suicide

AND this is why /mu/ will never be taken seriously.

>>61550260
I still use one.

>>61550434
If you get a super limited one its pretty much not worth it. All you will get is 1-2 unbalanced inputs, and level and pan on each channel, no ping pong capabilities. Best bet is getting a Yamaha mt4x you can find for about 100-150 if you look hard enough. They are great machines. That wait is worth it to find a working one at a good price

>>61550450
HEL
ORE
DIT

>>61550385
shopgoodwill

>>61550450
You are retarted.

>>61550505
Honestly, what is literally the cheapest one. I'm fine if it doesn't do crazy complex gadgetry, just a good recording device.

>>61550512
>Saying hello reddit whenever you lose a argument on /mu/

AND this is why /mu/ will never be taken seriously.

>>61550531
Tascam porta 02 is probably your best bet. Like I said its super limiter, no eq, no FX routing. If you pay the extra money what you can achieve is magnified greatly

>>61550619
How much extra dough are we talkin?

>>61550536
How did he lose. My god I can smell how bad your music taste is from here

>>61550679
You can find a porta 02 on Craigslist for 40-50 where I live at least. I bought that yamaha mt4x on CL for 100, still in the box with original receipt and papers etc. Running flawlessly for $100. Its all about having patience when buying shit like that

>>61550450
A lot of music benefits from lo fi production.. you don't know what you're talking about bro

So what is the appeal exactly? I get the appeal for reel to reel tape recorders, but what is it about this? is it just for producers who are always looking for new sounds and stuff? if I was interested in making music where it was less focused on production, let's say jazz, would there be any point? if I wanted a nice, analog sound, (which I do), might this be a cheaper way to do it?

>>61552021
Yes. Its a way cheaper alternative to using reels. Its just a wacky format, tapes are cheap and different types have different characteristics. You also get the advantage of having a pitch control, a feature which is still dodgy even nowadays on daws.

Cassette recording is also full of happy accidents, I've found I even play better when tracking this way because copy/pasting isn't an option and a tape can only handle so many passes. Its just an alternative that some appreciate, and some think is fucking lame.

Give it a try, I'm sure you'd ultimately find a use for it, even if you dont use it as a base format

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>>61550450
hey bud, i think youre a little lost.

lemme redirect you towards a more suitable place

>>reddit.com

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>>61553860

Are there seriously this many retards in the world? How did they all end up on the same board? If you want to be selling music in 2016, it should be through CDs or digital downloads - and if you like "wacky formats" you need to think of one that accommodates digital music. Here's a novel idea: a 4.5 inch shiny, full color plastic disc that holds any kind of file forever. If you want your music to sound "lo-fi" then just run it through a nice plugin or two or three or whatever and release it digitally that way. I 100% guarantee you that you can get the same kinds of sounds without using analog gear. Whining about digital audio was alright in the 90's and early 2000's.

Honestly I think the concept of using a Tascam or other four track as an effect is a cool idea. Drums and bass tend to sound pretty interesting when you record them certain ways. Still, this is pretty dumb if you have the resources to just get nice digital plugins.

Man I used to love working on 4 tracks, really productive for writing. I wish I still had one. :'3

Youtube search Alessandro cortini nin rig. He used one live with them. Other people do too.

I grew up recording on a slightly nicer cassette deck that my dad owned, but it was a tascam porta studio.

I'd love to have one. I make a lot of weird stuff with ableton and a cassette deck I bought from Walmart. It'd be cool to get weird with something with onboard multiple channels.

>>61553952
>caring about what other people do

autism. literal autism

>>61553952
>implying cassette tape can't be used as a capture medium for the creative uses of its limitations, including but not limited to, 4 tracks, tape saturation and tape compression

It's 2016, it's a given that you'd be digitalising music recorded on any analog format.
Also, as a studio engineer, I can tell you that there is a difference between digital plug-ins attempting to emulate 'analog sounds', and the pure physics of real electrons.

>>61550359
>MUH AESTHETICS!!!!
>MUH NOSTALGIA!!!!

https://www.instagram.com/p/BAFMNO7nXD4/?taken-by=miamatangi

Cassettes are shit and if you actually grew up having to use them you'd want nothing to do with them.

>>61550536
You never had an argument to begin with, you stupid tripshit. Try again.

Has anyone who's saying analog is shit ever actually recorded with analog?

>tfw bought Tascam 644
>tfw thought it'd be easy to use like the portastudios
>tfw boy oh boy was I wrong

>>61550260
Yes sirrrrrrrr still using it made this track last year with it:

https://soundcloud.com/venderstrooik/toter-lag-leblos-in-der-wohnung?in=venderstrooik/sets/venderstrooiks-top-10-tracks

(beware; its noise-isch)

>>61555141

I would posit that it's pretty autistic to use an outdated medium to do something you can replicate reliably with digital plugins.

>>61555281

Dude I literally said "I think the concept of using a Tascam or other four track as an effect is a cool idea". I'm also a studio engineer. I am confident that the plugins I use are excellent emulations of analog gear.

>>61556292
this is great would you mind posting all the gear used
exact model numbers would be superb
im really interested in this

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>>61550450
>AND this is why /mu/ will never be taken seriously.

To reddit you go, faggot.

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>>61550260
I see these all the time at the thrift store. Would it be possible to record the master version of a song on one of these?

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>>61550310
>there is no such thing as digital saturation plugins

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>>61553952
>If you want your music to sound "lo-fi" then just run it through a nice plugin or two or three or whatever and release it digitally that way. I 100% guarantee you that you can get the same kinds of sounds without using analog gear.

>>61556579
yeah, casiotone did it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEtxAaaEh8s

>>61556496
>to do something you can replicate reliably with digital plugins.

Stop embarrasing yourself, please.

To all of you digital enthusiasts, I love the simplicity, and sound of an analogue recorder.

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>>61556513

Cool. I have a picture (pic related) from that exact moment we made that track.

If i recall correctly;

From top to bottom

Casio somekind crappy keyboard
Boss Dr. Groove DR-202
Korg ER-1
a footpedle for guitars (?)
TapeRecorder

whats missing on the picture is a organ and a small effect box.
No computer was used during making the track

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I got one of these a few weeks ago

wish it had eq though....

>>61550359
While I do enjoy some lo-fi music at times, that should be as part of the music itself, not as part of the format I save the music in.

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>>61556722
the tape recorder is a Tascam by the way

>>61556611
>>61556633

You clearly either don't use digital or use shitty plugins. The only people who are embarrassing themselves are the ones continuing to use an obsolete format.

>>61556873
>why do painter paint on 5"x5" canvases using oil when they could be using a digital pad and make it as big as they want????

if you're too stupid to understand that some formats force limitations and yield organic and unique nuances which can be a creatively exhilarating way of producing work then you're too fucking stupid to even bother arguing with.

>>61556772
I happen to have the exact same one sitting next to me, but I have connected it to my pc so I can just work in audacity

>>61556873
>musical production of a hobby is serious business and everybody should adhere to what I consider objective

tips fedora

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>>61550260
i have the 424mkii and the 488mkii. use them almost daily.

my little 2 cents about the shitstorm in this thread:
admittedly im not even crazy about the sound quality. limited bandwidth and added noise, all the "lowfi aspects" lose their charm. in fact I hate it. The only reason I keep using these machines is the workflow. It just makes it that much easier to get an idea out when it only takes as much effort as it would to adjust a few guitar pedal knobs.


the playback on a 424mkii is surprisingly decent if you're using typeii tape and full speed recording. the playback on the 488 is about half the bandwidth and about twice the noise... its irritating to know how much dynamic you are losing but you get 8 whole tracks to mess with so it sounds reasonably better than if you did the same song by bouncing tracks on the 424mkii. I've learned to record things a little brighter just to peer through the noise. noise is not too much an issue with the 424mkii though!!

if anyones interested i can post our latest album we made with these two portas

>>61556976

If you're too stupid to just play something how you want it to sound and/or mix it accordingly afterwards you're too fucking stupid to even bother arguing with.

>>61557790

I honestly don't care if you're using it for a hobby. Just don't go around saying it's better than digital or that the sound can't be replicated in other ways, because that's totally wrong at this point.

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>>61558928
>if anyones interested i can post our latest album
not sure why you said this you might as well post it before the thread dies

>>61558928
>>61559261
>>61559518

https://droopies.bandcamp.com/releases
>>61554627

>>61550450
absolute madman

>>61550450
how come this is getting so many upvotes on reddit when /mu/ is in fact one person

>>61550260
I like them and want one for demos.