>>61550385 thrift shops like value village, or even on craigslist
though if you're in a big city you'll probably miss some or pay a bit more than you'd like. the lo-fi aesthetic has been getting pretty big again and a lot of people are picking these up to be 'authentic'
>>61550434 If you get a super limited one its pretty much not worth it. All you will get is 1-2 unbalanced inputs, and level and pan on each channel, no ping pong capabilities. Best bet is getting a Yamaha mt4x you can find for about 100-150 if you look hard enough. They are great machines. That wait is worth it to find a working one at a good price
>>61550679 You can find a porta 02 on Craigslist for 40-50 where I live at least. I bought that yamaha mt4x on CL for 100, still in the box with original receipt and papers etc. Running flawlessly for $100. Its all about having patience when buying shit like that
So what is the appeal exactly? I get the appeal for reel to reel tape recorders, but what is it about this? is it just for producers who are always looking for new sounds and stuff? if I was interested in making music where it was less focused on production, let's say jazz, would there be any point? if I wanted a nice, analog sound, (which I do), might this be a cheaper way to do it?
>>61552021 Yes. Its a way cheaper alternative to using reels. Its just a wacky format, tapes are cheap and different types have different characteristics. You also get the advantage of having a pitch control, a feature which is still dodgy even nowadays on daws.
Cassette recording is also full of happy accidents, I've found I even play better when tracking this way because copy/pasting isn't an option and a tape can only handle so many passes. Its just an alternative that some appreciate, and some think is fucking lame.
Give it a try, I'm sure you'd ultimately find a use for it, even if you dont use it as a base format
Are there seriously this many retards in the world? How did they all end up on the same board? If you want to be selling music in 2016, it should be through CDs or digital downloads - and if you like "wacky formats" you need to think of one that accommodates digital music. Here's a novel idea: a 4.5 inch shiny, full color plastic disc that holds any kind of file forever. If you want your music to sound "lo-fi" then just run it through a nice plugin or two or three or whatever and release it digitally that way. I 100% guarantee you that you can get the same kinds of sounds without using analog gear. Whining about digital audio was alright in the 90's and early 2000's.
Honestly I think the concept of using a Tascam or other four track as an effect is a cool idea. Drums and bass tend to sound pretty interesting when you record them certain ways. Still, this is pretty dumb if you have the resources to just get nice digital plugins.
>>61553952 >implying cassette tape can't be used as a capture medium for the creative uses of its limitations, including but not limited to, 4 tracks, tape saturation and tape compression
It's 2016, it's a given that you'd be digitalising music recorded on any analog format. Also, as a studio engineer, I can tell you that there is a difference between digital plug-ins attempting to emulate 'analog sounds', and the pure physics of real electrons.
Dude I literally said "I think the concept of using a Tascam or other four track as an effect is a cool idea". I'm also a studio engineer. I am confident that the plugins I use are excellent emulations of analog gear.
>>61553952 >If you want your music to sound "lo-fi" then just run it through a nice plugin or two or three or whatever and release it digitally that way. I 100% guarantee you that you can get the same kinds of sounds without using analog gear.
>>61556873 >why do painter paint on 5"x5" canvases using oil when they could be using a digital pad and make it as big as they want????
if you're too stupid to understand that some formats force limitations and yield organic and unique nuances which can be a creatively exhilarating way of producing work then you're too fucking stupid to even bother arguing with.
>>61550260 i have the 424mkii and the 488mkii. use them almost daily.
my little 2 cents about the shitstorm in this thread: admittedly im not even crazy about the sound quality. limited bandwidth and added noise, all the "lowfi aspects" lose their charm. in fact I hate it. The only reason I keep using these machines is the workflow. It just makes it that much easier to get an idea out when it only takes as much effort as it would to adjust a few guitar pedal knobs.
the playback on a 424mkii is surprisingly decent if you're using typeii tape and full speed recording. the playback on the 488 is about half the bandwidth and about twice the noise... its irritating to know how much dynamic you are losing but you get 8 whole tracks to mess with so it sounds reasonably better than if you did the same song by bouncing tracks on the 424mkii. I've learned to record things a little brighter just to peer through the noise. noise is not too much an issue with the 424mkii though!!
if anyones interested i can post our latest album we made with these two portas
I honestly don't care if you're using it for a hobby. Just don't go around saying it's better than digital or that the sound can't be replicated in other ways, because that's totally wrong at this point.
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