Savages is one of the most hilarious, cringe worthy bands ever propped up by the media. Remember, /mu/ used to be filled with stories of neckbeard fedoras at Savages concerts mouthing the words "DONT LET THEM FUCKERS GET YOU DOWN"
Female musicians cannot try to make aggressive music, because its by the very definition inauthentic. Females cannot be "tough" as any guy in the venue could beat the shit out of the entire female band.
Females should make music that appeals to their strengths: emotional control, deception, confusion, seduction. Vektroid is a good example of a female musician who is renowed for her music, not because OMG ITS A GIRL IN A PUNK BAND
ok ill bite
>Female musicians cannot try to make aggressive music, because its by the very definition inauthentic. Females cannot be "tough" as any guy in the venue could beat the shit out of the entire female band.
god damn the level of edge is unreal
are you literally posting from the 1600s?
>women cant do stuff because im a manly man and only manly men can do that stuff
go find a fucking corner to weep in
>Females should make music that appeals to their strengths: emotional control, deception, confusion, seduction.
a lot of their stuff are about these topics tho? also
>girls can only sing about girly girl stuff
dude you're the one making a big deal of them being women, who fucking cares mate
threw in a pic of you as well if that's cool
It's not authentic for females to make music where they try to be TOUGH BADASSES, because the average male from the audience could kick the shit out of the entire band.
If a band makes an album where they try to be a TOUGH BADASS, and they are clearly not, it is inauthentic and contrived.
Keep listening to Savages and calling people "fucking faggots ;-;" when they hurt your feelings.
>If a band makes an album where they try to be a TOUGH BADASS, and they are clearly not, it is inauthentic and contrived.
I'm not the person you've been arguing with, but I would disagree with this. Artistic integrity means sticking true to your own vision, and if that vision differs from what you actually are there's nothing wrong with that. For example, if a band is trying to portray themselves as 'badasses' for the sake of posturing and because they think that music will be popular, then that would in fact be contrived and pretentious. But if they're just making that music because they like the way it sounds and it's what they want to do there's nothing wrong with it.
Take Bowie's Space Oddity for example: David Bowie isn't an astronaut, but that doesn't mean he can't write a song from the perspective of one, especially being inspired by the space race going on at the time. It's not contrived if he's just doing what he wants.
I know a lot of people here think Bowie is full of shit but whatever, you get the point of the example, right?
>in any way a member of the right
top fucking kek, as if his black wife and obsession with any white guilt album (kendrick lamar) wasnt a dead giveaway
my point is, who fucking cares that they're female? /mu/ can separate the art from the artist when it comes to stuff like NSBM, but when a women does something it's "inauthentic" because you feel more comfy knowing the artist is a man when the music is even slightly aggressive
like ffs, OP thinks it matters if the audience could win in a fist fight against the band >>61505076
not me m8
So this is the female fronted punk thread? Here are some of my faves
I'm attracted to music that is passionate and evokes emotion. Why is it important that aggressive music evoke toughness? Is toughness important in your life? If so, what does that mean beyond being able to fight?
>Why is it important that aggressive music evoke toughness?
If you are going to be aggressive and tough, but in reality you aren't at all, the music is insincere and hollow.
Savages raving about those "fuckers bringing us down" is embarrassing and cringeworthy, not STRONG and BRAVE.
Uhhh everything you linked was grindcore, not punk. Punk died long ago. I'm going to double down and assume this is an underage post.
did john cena get his catchphrase from this?
I haven't heard the song you're talking about, but maybe you're interpreting the lyrics to reflect a specific point of view that is threatening to your world view. It could be something as simple as she encountered one person who was impeding her from doing something she wanted and she persevered despite them.
In any case, if you don't like it, don't listen. Some women make shitty aggressive music, some women make good aggressive music. The latter might be more rare nowadays, but you can't deny the possibilities just because it doesn't fit your paradigm.
>some women make good aggressive music.
Its always inauthentic because they aren't strong nor are they tough nor are they aggressive.
It would be like MC Ride making "My Neck, My Back." It would be cringe worthy.
>Coughs is no-wave revival
>tfw you just saw Lydia Lunch and Arto Lindsay both in the same month recently after this claim
We obviously have different ideas of toughness and listen to music for different reasons. Good luck to you.
More new wave post punk than the free-er structured and melody no wave. But cool.
my absolute pleasure glad you like it. I just found it by trying to go through every single bandcamp release for this month. I just listened again and was blown away. Excited as fuck to hear the rest of this thing.
Very good, but it sounds a bit too overcooked for my liking. If they just had one or two fewer progression and key changes they would be more comfortable to listen to. Maybe if they made their songs longer...