What is the most influential rock band that isn't The Velvet

karftwerk

Black Sabbath

The Velvet Beatleground

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>>53667790
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>>53667798
>Kraftwerk
This
Also, their influence is very underrated

>>53667819
you should've change that filename to "goat with a goat"

also I agree with the beach boys being that influential.

>>53667800
>>53667798
good answers. I'll add:

The Mothers of Invention
The Stooges
13th Floor Elevators
Bad Brains
Pixies

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>>53667837
>Brian Wilson
>GOAT

The Smiths

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the goddamn beach boys

>>53667873
what a meme this is

>>53667790

Zappa?

>>53667853
+1 on 13th floor elevators

>>53667873
greatest songwriter of all time

>>53667853
I'll throw these in to:

T. Rex
Venom

Big Star

the strokes

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>>53667921
greatest producer of all time

in terms of changing music for the worse
coldplay

>>53667790

King Crimson

>>53667790
King Crimson
Yes
The Pixies

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>>53667956
ahem

The Band

Faust

>>53668026
oh yeh.

also Bobby Dylans

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>>53668023

David Bowie

>inb4 some /mu/ drone says Radiohead

Zep or the the stones maybe who gives a fuck anyway

>>53667980
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>>53668056
>bands I hate aren't influential

I mean I hate U2 but they should probably be brought up

gram parsons was pretty instrumental in fucking everything he touched up into country and making country music -acceptable- again so i'm gonna say gram parsons

>>53668046
brian is such a qt. post more pics pls

Death Grips.

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>>53668141

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>>53668141
you have no idea what you have just unleashed.

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>>53668160

>>53668174
he looked so weird in the 80's goddamn. it's like he becamse a different person since the 60's. Weirdly enough, right now he really reminds me of his old self.

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>>53668174

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>>53668141
like i had this moment of realization a few weeks ago that i actually have a crush on brian circa '64 - '71 or so.

Sabbath

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>>53668294
my crush on him runs right up until he changes his hair around the time of the solo album

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fat bearded late 70s brian wilson is the most influential and cute artist of all time

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this is the most qt brian photo

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>>53668407
i love the pics from this concert so much but i'm not a fan of late 70s brian bc that was when he was mentally at his worst and it makes me sad to think of the shit he went through. poor guy.

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naw this

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>>53668432
close, anon. close.

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this is a good thread atm

>>53668463
eh, i think he was only really at his worst by the time of the 80s, starting from when he was fired from the touring band and getting much worse post-cocaine sessions even really and if you listen to the stuff he was recording with gary usher later again on some of the boots you can really tell. those final few years with landy were the worst, the medication nearly killed him

>>53667790
I don't know, maybe Sabbath or The Ramones.

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>>53668502
best thread on /mu/ currently

>>53667790
Chuck Berry
Rolling Stones
Neil Young
Ramones
Bob Dylan
Captain Beefheart
Can
Pere Ubu
Bruce Springsteen
Pink Floyd
Byrds

>>53668535
the byrds weren't remotely influential they just reflected what was going on at the time

Cream.

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>>53668513
well i guess i also dislike his life in the late 70s because having him onstage just felt mean. he never liked performing to begin with and he was in no shape to tour during that point in his life. kicking him out of the touring band may not have been with the best intentions and may have dragged him into a state of doing literally (literally) nothing but him onstage during those late 70s concerts always just felt like his bandmates dragging out an unwilling puppy to play fetch. or something. i'm not good at analogies.

health wise yeah he was at his worst in the 80s.

>>53668533
i wish i had more pics of brian when he was young on this laptop. they're all on my pc

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Did someone say America's Band?

>>53668572
pretty sure his health is at it's worst now, that he's a very old man.

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Black Sabbath. Easily.

Metallica

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>>53667790
chuck berry

>>53668579
i met mike love two days ago. he wasn't particularly awful but his demeanor unsettling and he was pretty detached honestly. i think he's chilled out over the years but i just wish i would own up to being such a dick to brian and vdp.

>>53668600
i dunno, all of the drugs and shit he did + the weight he put on had him knocking at heaven's door to my knowledge. he's old as fuck now but he seems in decent health. i mean, he HAS to be eating right and exercising to still be alive after all the beatings his body has taken.

>>53668572
kicking him out of the touring band in the early 80s seemed like a total necessity to be honest, he'd drift off and start playing the wrong songs and always had to have his mic turned all the way down?? and i'm sure al jardine would probably have flipped out and killed him if that kept up

>>53668600
he's in the great shape of the agriculture

>>53668616
get out of here

>>53668054
my man!

>>53668644
people are too quick to blame everything on mike, shitty as he is. he had a pretty terrible family background too which doesn't really get talked about and i'm not too keen on him being labelled as the sole business head in the band, from what i've read carl was actually just as bad
i definitely will be reading his memoirs next year and laughing at all the grievous errors though

>>53668734
yeah i agree, although there's no questioning that his interactions with vdp are what made him bail, which was a huge reason why smile died. i'll never forgive mike for that.

i know he hasn't done a whole lot wrong since then, but he's just kind of given the band a bad name. his rock and roll hall of fame speech and the fact that he won't just let the band's name die bothers me. it's like all of brian's efforts to help progress the band's music and image has been undone through a solid 40 years of the beach boys just being a nostalgia act, and a big part of that is mike.

>>53668802
idunno, van dyke hated the group dynamics that emerged as soon as all of them came back from touring and bailed out very quick, i'm sure mike was a ringleader in that but i'm not gonna discount the possibility of everyone being freaked out by the tapes and tapes of spoken word brian spent huge lengths of time recording w/ michael vosse and all his Drug Friends and the general weirdness of the environment they find themselves in as well as brian's own reaction to everything falling in on him
my big thing with him is that he specifically is to blame for endless summer and getting blondie chaplin and ricky fataar kicked out of the band just as the group sound under carl's direction was starting to seriously develop past holland into what was emerging on the concert album
the nostalgia act thing in the later years too yeah especially through the 80s, but remember that in 1996 it was brian's people who shot down the collaboration with sean o'hagan from the high llamas (the one thing that could have reclaimed the beach boys' image) and it was carl who completely shot down the andy paley / don was album in favour of continuing with stars and stripes vol. 1

>>53668079
I don't hate Radio-Head but how were they influential?

>>53669466
You would have had to be alive at the end of the 90s to observe how rock music changed after OK Computer.

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And these guys have not been mentioned yet how?

>>53669535
Because they weren't that important.

>>53669569
Wrong. Very.

>>53669579
How so?

>>53669583
They were one of the first british bands to really make Blues Rock A thing.
Plus that was where Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck and Eric Clapton all got their Start.

>>53669630
>They were one of the first british bands to really make Blues Rock A thing
Except for The Rolling Stones.
>Plus that was where Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck and Eric Clapton all got their Start.
Not relevant.

>>53669650
The Rolling Stones were also important but they did not do as much for the genre as the Yardbirds.

and Page Beck and Clapton are 3 of the most influential guitarists of all time. So I fail to see how that is Not relevant.

>>53668535
>Chuck Berry
Yes
>Rolling Stones
Yes.
>Neil Young
No
>Ramones
Yes
>Bob Dylan
Yes
>Captain Beefheart
No
>Can
Yes
>Pere Ubu
Yes
>Bruce Springsteen
No
>Pink Floyd
Yes
>Byrds
No

>>53669757
>Neil Young
>Somewhat Yes
but the rest you are right about.

>>53669749
>The Rolling Stones were also important but they did not do as much for the genre as the Yardbirds.
The fact that they invented what the Yardbirds imitated should show you

Also
"I like them the most" =/= most influence

>>53669803
I listen to the Stones a lot more than the Yardbirds. so no...

>>53669796
>>Neil Young
>>Somewhat Yes
How so?

>>53669819
That's weird that you would intentionally state incorrect information then.

>>53669820
He did not revolutionize anything but he did have a Raunchy sound a lot of people followed on to.

>>53669842
>country buttrock
Ooops you mean The band or CCR. Sorry.
>>53669846
Actually, no you are right. I suppose he helped create the grunge sound.

>Important
Brian Eno
Robert Fripp

>Worth mentioning
Steve Albini
Kevin Shields

>>53670022
>Brian Eno
Yes.
>Robert Fripp
No.
>Steve Albini
No.
>Kevin Shields
No.

Cheap Trick

Spacemen 3

>>53669841
More Guitarists Site the Yardbirds as an influence than the Stones.
So I have no clue where that came from.

>>53668535
scruffy/10

>>53670134
>More Guitarists Site the Yardbirds as an influence than the Stones.
[citation needed]

soulja boy invented memerap

Death Grips sound like dogs on crack having sex with heavy drums in the background.

That's why they are the greatest band out there.

>influential rock band
>influential
>rock
Hurr hurr.

>>53667942
ayy lmao

>>53668533
Looks like young Alec Baldwin

>>53667980
Radiohead happened so that Coldplay could happen; Radiohead is horseshit.

Therefore Radiohead is guilty of everything bad that has ever happened because of Christ Martin.

oasis ruined british music

>>53667790
King Crimson is up there

>>53672174
That's not how you spell "Blur."

>>53667790
the stones man, it's kinda hard to be around since the dawn of time and not be influential

>>53672199
that's as stupid as saying Radiohead

This guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HysrQgMOTRo

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pushing a hundred posts and not one single mention of THE most influential man to rock music?

For shame.

I know as a rule /mu/ loves to dislike him, and you don't have to like him, but to deny his influence is just being retarded

>>53672232
That's not how you spell "Radiohead"

>>53672526
>stole all of his shit from niggers

Nah, Chuck Berry is still the correct answer.

>>53672526
jesus christ mccartney looks fat in that pic

Woody Guthrie and to a lesser extent Pete Seeger, surely, if even in attitude alone

>>53672617
"Describe Elvis Presley? He was the greatest who ever was, is or ever will be."
Chuck Berry

Chuck Berry is still a far better answer than 95% of the other suggestions ITT, though

>>53668962
Holy punctuation, Batman!

>>53668042
>>53668535

"When I first heard Elvis' voice I just knew that I wasn't going to work for anybody; and nobody was going to be my boss...Hearing him for the first time was like busting out of jail. The highlight of my career? That's easy, elvis recording one of my songs."
Bob Dylan

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>>53672617
>stole
Everyone did covers back then. Even Chuck Berry. His nickname at the start of his career was 'The Black Hillbilly' because he played a lot of country songs. 'Maybellene', his first hit, is just a rewrite of 'Ida Red'.

>>53672704
did chuck berry record tripe like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueVJ-wriH3Y

(and that being nowhere near the bottom of the barrel)

"Nothing really affected me until I heard Elvis. If there hadn't been an Elvis, there wouldn't have been the Beatles."
John Lennon

>>53671898
Nice shitpost.

>>53672791
Yes, but Chuck Berry actually created something significant and useful (descending pentatonic double stops) whereas Elvis just popularized an image.

Cher

>>53672873
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3XOa5yIch8

>>53672901
Chuck Berry stole his ideas from marty mcfly

Tame Impala

>>53672873
Just because he influenced a lot of influential people that doesn't make him the most influential. I mean, his music itself wasn't very influential.

am I making any sense?

burt bacharach, probably

>>53672905
AnCo

>>53672959
sounds like you're using influential and original interchangeably

>>53672959
no

>>53672959
Not really, people listened to his music, which influenced them.

>>53672959
no, you're not, sorry.

>>53672901
>descending pentatonic double stops
Is this heard on old blues recordings?

>>53673045
Yeah, you'll hear plenty of double stop licks in blues.

>>53673086
So what your saying is, Chuck Berry didn't create shit.

>>53673021
but the music itself wasn't groundbreaking or original. he was just there at the right time.

>>53673086
Thus he didn't invent it.

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David Bowie.

Like, there's a lot of great answers, but look around. Look at all the covers of his songs. Look how many people list him as a great influence. Look at how many people try and replicate what he did, the long-reaching influence anything he did from Hunky Dory to like Scary Monsters had, ESPECIALLY Ziggy Stardust (Even if it wasn't really his greatest). On sheer influence he is definitely up there, not to mention how actually amazing his work is.

>>53673114
>>53673117
I said double stops. Not descending pentatonic ones. It's the basis of rock and roll.

>>53667790
>implying the beatles or vu are the most influential rock band
I think we're getting sidetracked.

>>53673116
>but the music itself wasn't groundbreaking or original. He was just there at the right time.
That can be said about every single artists in this thread. There is no rock/pop that was groundbreaking or orignal.

>>53673116
"talent" is often just a matter of being in the right place at the right time

>>53673129
>>53673129
"Elvis was a major hero of mine. I was probably stupid enough to believe that having the same birthday as him actually meant something."
David Bowie

>>53673155
>double stops
OK might need to ask my question again:
Is this heard on old blues recordings?

>>53673157
Frank Zappa, The Beatles, The Beach Boys, Chuck Berry, Captain Beefheart, James Brown.

All groundbreaking and original unlike elvis.

>>53673211
>Frank Zappa, The Beatles, The Beach Boys, Chuck Berry, Captain Beefheart, James Brown.
All these people rehashed old ideas. Don't delude yourself.

>>53673206
Yes. They're heard in every genre but used extensively in the blues.

>>53673234
What ideas did they rehased? are you talking about art music ones? because if you are then it's just stupid.

How can you say that an album like Pet Sounds wasn't original and groundbreaking for 66?

>>53673257
>>53673117

>>53673282
>How can you say that an album like Pet Sounds wasn't original and groundbreaking for 66?
Rehashed ideas by Phil Spector.
>What ideas did they rehased?
You made the initial claim they were groundbreaking/original, the burden of proof is on you to show us (so then I can show you who thought of it first).

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Sam Phillips created rock 'n' roll. Anyone who denies this is a moron.