What is the most influential rock band that isn't The Velvet Underground or The Beatles?
you have no idea what you have just unleashed.
like i had this moment of realization a few weeks ago that i actually have a crush on brian circa '64 - '71 or so.
my crush on him runs right up until he changes his hair around the time of the solo album
fat bearded late 70s brian wilson is the most influential and cute artist of all time
i love the pics from this concert so much but i'm not a fan of late 70s brian bc that was when he was mentally at his worst and it makes me sad to think of the shit he went through. poor guy.
eh, i think he was only really at his worst by the time of the 80s, starting from when he was fired from the touring band and getting much worse post-cocaine sessions even really and if you listen to the stuff he was recording with gary usher later again on some of the boots you can really tell. those final few years with landy were the worst, the medication nearly killed him
well i guess i also dislike his life in the late 70s because having him onstage just felt mean. he never liked performing to begin with and he was in no shape to tour during that point in his life. kicking him out of the touring band may not have been with the best intentions and may have dragged him into a state of doing literally (literally) nothing but him onstage during those late 70s concerts always just felt like his bandmates dragging out an unwilling puppy to play fetch. or something. i'm not good at analogies.
health wise yeah he was at his worst in the 80s.
i wish i had more pics of brian when he was young on this laptop. they're all on my pc
i met mike love two days ago. he wasn't particularly awful but his demeanor unsettling and he was pretty detached honestly. i think he's chilled out over the years but i just wish i would own up to being such a dick to brian and vdp.
i dunno, all of the drugs and shit he did + the weight he put on had him knocking at heaven's door to my knowledge. he's old as fuck now but he seems in decent health. i mean, he HAS to be eating right and exercising to still be alive after all the beatings his body has taken.
kicking him out of the touring band in the early 80s seemed like a total necessity to be honest, he'd drift off and start playing the wrong songs and always had to have his mic turned all the way down?? and i'm sure al jardine would probably have flipped out and killed him if that kept up
he's in the great shape of the agriculture
people are too quick to blame everything on mike, shitty as he is. he had a pretty terrible family background too which doesn't really get talked about and i'm not too keen on him being labelled as the sole business head in the band, from what i've read carl was actually just as bad
i definitely will be reading his memoirs next year and laughing at all the grievous errors though
yeah i agree, although there's no questioning that his interactions with vdp are what made him bail, which was a huge reason why smile died. i'll never forgive mike for that.
i know he hasn't done a whole lot wrong since then, but he's just kind of given the band a bad name. his rock and roll hall of fame speech and the fact that he won't just let the band's name die bothers me. it's like all of brian's efforts to help progress the band's music and image has been undone through a solid 40 years of the beach boys just being a nostalgia act, and a big part of that is mike.
idunno, van dyke hated the group dynamics that emerged as soon as all of them came back from touring and bailed out very quick, i'm sure mike was a ringleader in that but i'm not gonna discount the possibility of everyone being freaked out by the tapes and tapes of spoken word brian spent huge lengths of time recording w/ michael vosse and all his Drug Friends and the general weirdness of the environment they find themselves in as well as brian's own reaction to everything falling in on him
my big thing with him is that he specifically is to blame for endless summer and getting blondie chaplin and ricky fataar kicked out of the band just as the group sound under carl's direction was starting to seriously develop past holland into what was emerging on the concert album
the nostalgia act thing in the later years too yeah especially through the 80s, but remember that in 1996 it was brian's people who shot down the collaboration with sean o'hagan from the high llamas (the one thing that could have reclaimed the beach boys' image) and it was carl who completely shot down the andy paley / don was album in favour of continuing with stars and stripes vol. 1
>They were one of the first british bands to really make Blues Rock A thing
Except for The Rolling Stones.
>Plus that was where Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck and Eric Clapton all got their Start.
The Rolling Stones were also important but they did not do as much for the genre as the Yardbirds.
and Page Beck and Clapton are 3 of the most influential guitarists of all time. So I fail to see how that is Not relevant.
>The Rolling Stones were also important but they did not do as much for the genre as the Yardbirds.
The fact that they invented what the Yardbirds imitated should show you
"I like them the most" =/= most influence
pushing a hundred posts and not one single mention of THE most influential man to rock music?
I know as a rule /mu/ loves to dislike him, and you don't have to like him, but to deny his influence is just being retarded
"When I first heard Elvis' voice I just knew that I wasn't going to work for anybody; and nobody was going to be my boss...Hearing him for the first time was like busting out of jail. The highlight of my career? That's easy, elvis recording one of my songs."
Everyone did covers back then. Even Chuck Berry. His nickname at the start of his career was 'The Black Hillbilly' because he played a lot of country songs. 'Maybellene', his first hit, is just a rewrite of 'Ida Red'.
Like, there's a lot of great answers, but look around. Look at all the covers of his songs. Look how many people list him as a great influence. Look at how many people try and replicate what he did, the long-reaching influence anything he did from Hunky Dory to like Scary Monsters had, ESPECIALLY Ziggy Stardust (Even if it wasn't really his greatest). On sheer influence he is definitely up there, not to mention how actually amazing his work is.
>but the music itself wasn't groundbreaking or original. He was just there at the right time.
That can be said about every single artists in this thread. There is no rock/pop that was groundbreaking or orignal.
What ideas did they rehased? are you talking about art music ones? because if you are then it's just stupid.
How can you say that an album like Pet Sounds wasn't original and groundbreaking for 66?
>How can you say that an album like Pet Sounds wasn't original and groundbreaking for 66?
Rehashed ideas by Phil Spector.
>What ideas did they rehased?
You made the initial claim they were groundbreaking/original, the burden of proof is on you to show us (so then I can show you who thought of it first).
Sam Phillips created rock 'n' roll. Anyone who denies this is a moron.