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whats this time signature, /mu/?
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whats this time signature, /mu/?

1-e-a-2-e-a-3-e-a-4-e-a

I've talked to two different music theory people and have gotten 3 different answers

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4/4 you fucking mongoliod
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>>53440622
The fact that I'm counting to 4 isn't as important, it just marks the stresses
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>>53440652
why though, if a note is played on every number, e, and a, why isn't it 12/4. like i'm looking to understand it not be told the answer and then that i'm a mongoloid please and thank you
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um 4/4 with swing, or 12/8
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0/10
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>>53440622
Give the link to the song, otherwise we won't know.
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>>53440730
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjVeazhEug0
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>>53440687
triplets you fucking mongoloid
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3/4
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>>53440730
i haven't finished writing the song yet
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>>53440755
Assuming you are OP and not a troll, this is clearly 4/4.
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>>53440622
Isn't it just 3/4?
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>>53440780
>>53440697
why?
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>>53440773
Well then we can't judge in proper context.
Come back when we can hear the song. It's most likely 12/8 or 6/8 but could be 4/4 given the context of the surrounding parts.
>>53440765
>>53440780
No, not at all.
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that's waltz time. 3/4
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It's 3/4, I'm pretty sure
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That sounds like 3/4.

Also maybe I'm just a pleb but I've never seen someone write out a time signature like that.
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>>53440757
someone plays the drums only
>>53440808
that's interesting, i think the fact that I'm getting the same answers with the same level of uncertainty is a clue about the nature of how this all works. What exactly would you be looking for when the song is uploaded? what info would key you in on a certain time signature? and why 12/8 instead of 12/4
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Bunch of samefags saying 3/4 now.

It's not 3/4 because no fucking autist would write 4 dotted eighth notes to denote a quadruple time unless it was alternating between:

1+2+3+|1ea2ea3ea4ea

It HAS to be 4/4, 6/8, or 12/8.
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>>53440622
It's 12/8. The fact that there are four sets of three. It's a compound (i.e. triplet-based) quadruple time signature.
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>>53440929
>>53440902
it's because i'm not actually writing this in sheet music currently, just fl studio 8, which doesn't work like that. i'd like to eventually convert it to sheet music, hence why i'm curious.
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what would 5/4 be like?
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>>53440907
>What exactly would you be looking for when the song is uploaded?
The context of the surrounding parts (drums, bass, vocals, etc.) mainly. But also the phrasing of the melody.
>and why 12/8 instead of 12/4
Because 12/8 is effectively 4 bars of 3/8 combined together, meaning that it has 4 divisions of 3 (as you said, 1ea2ea3ea4ea).
12/4 is TWELVE divisions of 4 in most all situations (also, there is pretty much never 12/4 in any music).
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>>53440957
It would be like:
1, 2, 3, 4, 5
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>>53440726
underwater boat
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>>53440622
a 6/8 blues type signature.

Or I guess 12/8... Same shit.

But not 3/4 or 4/4

3/4 would be more like 1 e & a 2 e & a 3 e & a/ repeat
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>>53440957
It can be a variety of things, but usually it is 1ea3ea4+5+; AKA, 6/8+2/4.
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>>53441012
6/8 is the same thing as 3/4 though
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>>53441020
It begins.
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>>53440622
12/8

>>53440957
most commonly:
1--2--3-4-
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its definitely 3/4
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>>53441020
ayyyy I love this meme.
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>>53441020
>6/8 is the same thing as 3/4 though
Hahahahahahah

fucking music education on /mu/, everyone
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It's clearly 24/32, retards
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>>53441077
Right?! What the fuck. This is why you don't ask about real music and composition on /mu/.

The internet: bunch of people responding to shit they know nothing about
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>>53441077
Seriously stupid people.
>4/4 most popular time signature
>6/8 Second most used, in tons of blues and jazz
>3/4 Much more uncommon, that and other odd signatures mostly in prog and experimental stuff these days
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>>53441077
Is it not true though? It's like math. 3/4 is 75%, meaning you finish 75% of the bar. 6/8 simplified is also 75%
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thanks everyone for your insight especially my boy >>53440986
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>>53441077
>>53441086
>>53441130
>>53441197
if ima be honest i'd say people derailing my thread are the real retards but ok guise
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>>53441197
Is 3/4 really that uncommon? I seem to hear it a lot.
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it's 6/8 time

the end.
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>>53441203
Definitely not... Especially as far as drumming goes. Totally different counts.

I hope this is bait
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>>53441197
>3/4 Much more uncommon
You're an idiot.
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>>53441285
A lot less common than 4/4 and 6/8.

Depends what you listen to. But most popular mainstream stuff is always 4/4 of 6/8 with more classic rock/blues stuff.

If you listen to more punk/emo stuff or prog stuff you probably hear more 3/4 than most people. Bands like that love cutting/adding a couple 1/8 notes to measures for fun.
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>>53441306
Are you the same person who thinks 3/4 and 6/8 is the same thing?
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>>53441375
Isn't 3/4 and 6/8 the same thing?
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>>53441197
3/4 is easily as common as 6/8, and it's not classified as an "odd" signature like 5/4 or 7/8

>>53441130
There are some knowledgeable people here it's just impossible to verify it

>>53441203
Different accents man. 6/8 has two, 3/4 has three. Very, very different for composition.
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12 8th notes in a bar. it's 12/8

and you people call yourselves musicians
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6/8 or 12/8.

Why not just count |123-456|123-456|, with a strong accent on 1 and 4.

You have to be careful that you don't mix up beats and pulses.

>>53440957
5/4 needs to be asymmetrical when counted, strong beat on 1 and 3 or 1 and 4.
|12-345|,|123-45|

same with 7.
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>>53441246
epic

simply epic :^)
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FUCKING SWUNG 4
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3/4 or 6/8

They are the same.
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>>53440622
6/8??
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>>53441553
gotta be more subtle with the bait man

Say something like "4/3 is impossible"
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>>53441246
Isn't that how the internet works tho?
You get 2 correct answers and 20 from people who are clueless but have to say something.

Then the rest of the thread is the 2 people who know what they're talking about berating the other 20 idiots
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>>53441574
the 8 means every eighth note is one beat of the measure
same way a quarter note is one beat in a more standard x/4 time signature.
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Part of me wants to hop on the drums and record simple beats for each time measure and record it for you people...

But I'm too lazy and most of them won't learn anyway.
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>>53441553
They aren't the same, but they can be counted the same.

They're not the same because if you switch from 4/4 to 3/4, and 4/4 to 6/8, you're not going to be switching into the same time signature. If they were the same you wouldn't have different signatures.
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>>53441417
Recommend me some 3/4 songs...

As far as drumming goes, most of the songs people think are 3/4 are 6/8 drum beats.

6/8 (or 12/8 whatever) as in 1&a 2&a 3&a 4&a
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>>53440622
clearly 12/8
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>>53440808
whats the difference between 3/4 and 6/8? I never understood the difference
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4/4 with triplets or 12/8 depending on how you wanna write it
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Definitely 12/8 or 6/8.
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>>53442403
How the music is written and sightread

From a producing standpoint they're basically the same, but from a musician's standpoint reading 6/8 might be easier than 3/4 and vice versa (depending on the song)
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>>53440622
12/8 or triplets in 4/4 or whatever you want it to be
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>>53443270
Wrong

>>53442403
It's the accents. Think of 6/8 as actually being in 2, but with triplets on the beats
1--2--1--2--1--2--

3/4 is like this
1-2-3-1-2-3-

It's completely different
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>>53445093
You get this...
That's why I don't understand people saying 3/4 is common. Barely anything is written in real 3/4. It is almost always 4/4 or 6/8.

I asked for examples if people wanna prove me wrong on the 3/4 thing. I tried looking it up on Google and there is barely anything. A lot of them say 3/4 is the "Waltz" beat, but not for me as a drummer...
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