isn't this really true though? A guitar takes so much practice to learn, there is technique and dedication required to master it.
What's so hard about pressing play on a sampler?
>b-b-but muh production
seems a bit flimsy, doesn't it?
Your entire train of thought is contingent on the fact that there's such a thing as "real music" and that to make it you have to be technically proficient with an instrument. Once you (hopefully) realize this is not the case, you can overstand reality and see the world in a different shade.
you use a logic that divides people beetween the ones that are capable to make music and the ones that aren´t.
music is music everytime that someone play it
meet miguel tomasin, leader of reynols, a band with 38 records edited all over the world. he seems to be happy playing, everyone arround him too.
go with your pretentius morality somewhere else. pretentius faggot
By this logic, the harder the instrument, the better the music.
So if I hang a bunch of lead pipes, vibrating to make a scale, up far enough apart so that I have to run a fifty yard dash to hit each one, does that make my music the realest?
I'm a guitarist, but creating electronic/synthetic music definitely has it's own skill set. In the same way that playing guitar, writing music, composition, etc, are all their own thing, operating some of those devices is a massive head fuck.
>Your entire train of thought is contingent on the fact that there's such a thing as "real music" and that to make it you have to be technically proficient with an instrument.
a variant of rockism; rock music is more "real" and legitimate than forms that rely more on electronics and "studio trickery", like pop, hip hop, electronic music, etc.
NotOP, and I don't think there is such a thing as "real music", but I do think that learning how to play an instrument leads you to towards a much more intimate and intuitive way of thinking about music.
i don't like synths personally, i see the point and they can be used well, but to me the performance is the most important part of music. samplers and some synths move away from that and i dont like it.
sometimes i jam with a dj that does the turn tables and shit. and i honestly dont know how he keeps it straight, but he thinks its crazy that i can just play whatever instrument
>there are people reading this RIGHT NOW that think it's brainlessly simple to create decent music using only samples and no actual musical instruments.
Maybe if your idea of sample-based electronic music is a bass drum going 'boof boof boof boof' and an unaccompanied vocal line from a 1950s gospel song.
synths ≠ samplers
playing a synth properly takes just as much skill as playing a guitar properly. In fact to play it really really well it takes as much skill as playing a piano properly.
you do have to be proficient with your instrument, whether its a sampler, your voice or a guitar,
if you suck at taking and editing your samples and loops you are not proficient with it, and can't make so called real music
i know what a synth is jackass, i just brought them they're being brought up and lumped in with samplers. i dont care for synth sounds usually, is all i meant. and i was saying using a sampler is a legit skill
So what the fuck am I making then if I use a sampler? Better come up with a new term for that, not that it's going to matter in the fucking slightest when I'll make and listen to what I enjoy anyway.
Man, we really were born in the wrong generation. I wish we could have lived in the days when artists actually MADE music with their instruments... The Beatles, Led Zeppalin, hell even Outkast. I'm not racist. I just like music made with real skills instead of computer garbage.
of course not, the focus should be on sounding good before showing off, i just think synthesizers and samplers both are used very poorly, very often. just like guitars and people who want to wank off on a seven minute guitar solo just to show off.
>just like guitars and people who want to wank off on a seven minute guitar solo just to show off.
A 7 minute guitar solo can be great if the guy knows what he's doing. The thing is, most people aren't good enough to play lead for 7 minutes straight without stagnating.
>le wrong generation
You know we live in a time where instruments still exist? People can still MAKE music with them too.
And why are you bringing up the fact that you're not a racist? Projecting?
correct you're winner
also correct i agree with you shit. leave out one thing that shouldn't need to be said and everyone in the thread shits brix
if you think that then throw out your computer, cell phone, and any other technological marvels that you take for granted on a daily basis
you do realize that sarcasm usually is a tone of voice thing right? like some thing people generally need to hear unless you make it painfully obvious that you're being sarcastic, which defeats the purpose
I play several instruments and honestly, trying to combine samples into a coherent unique track the way Panda Bear and the Avalanches do is much harder than writing down a chord progression, adding a bassline and drums, and writing some dumb lyrics.
I play guitar and produce rap beats. It is much easier to become proficient at guitar (be able to play a lot of songs well) than to produce music that actually sounds legitimate. There's so much science and technical shit that goes into production. This 9gag shit is infinitely closed minded and shows how little OP knows about actual music. This is coming from someone who primarily enjoys guitar music.
i have to disagree, if all you're doing is chords or rhythm section or vocals then yeah probably samples are harder, but if you write all of that yourself and try to really write something different then its just as hard
i play guitar with a DJ that produces his own beats and a bass player. the DJ is always baffled by how we play, and i honestly have no idea how he does some of what he does.
different skill sets