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>In it I'm looking at my old myspace profile to see how much of a tryhard I was
>Look at "favorite music" section
>All the sort of standard highschoolcore music
>One album stands out
>It's a rotoscopic medium shot of a geisha with the titles in Japanese
>Look it up on youtube (still in my dream)
>Sure enough, it's vaporwave sounding with samples of traditional Japanese sounds (like the taiko drums and the YOUUU sounds).
I've been retroactively listening to fictional vaporwave in my dreams. 2spooky
I'm OP of the previous thread and couldn't care less about the OP as long as we have a discussion. It's not like he's gonna get rich and famous especially since you guys don't buy even 300 Yen and $1 albums, kek.
Can we talk about how amazing this is?
This will get a lot of people into the genre
Is it just me or does TOYOTAセリカ come up way more often than the others when you hit Discover? I've tried this 3 separate times and like 7/10 times it's that shitty TOYOTAセリカ album
G-Guise i droped another single a few days ago, W-Would you listen to it and tell me how is it?
I'm not being an asshole here, but this is just so boring man. It's just a generic future funk sample with some airy reverb over it.
Maybe some people will like it, but it's not my thing.
I have a recurring dream where I'm still in high school, except it wasn't my real one. It was always a different one and I'm 100% that they don't exist in real life. Most often of the time I'm in a class I forgot I took and we had a test on the one day I did show up.
I have had vapor related dreams too
>flying in 80s polygon desert
>skeleton comes towards me and says "welcome to virtual fantasy"
>suddenly on a boat paddling though microchips and eyeball pirates
>blows me towards a grid filled with Amiga computers
I had a dream a few years ago that there was some hidden database on the deep web of every major event that has and would happen in the history of the universe, all the way from before the big bang until heat death destroys all matter. The webpage was made in this weird Web 2.0 look with a dark background, neon colors, and bits of corrupted text scattered around. Once I got far enough the date started changing to characters and symbols I've never seen before, and there were literally billions of pages. The whole time I scrolled through it there was some ethereal elevator music playing that got darker and more reverby as it went on (sounded kind of like Hologram Plaza), and when I reached the end of the page when the last matter in the universe dies, it looped back to the big bang.
I'm going to ask this again, no one answered me this time.
Is this vapor-rock? Is this a thing, and where can I find more like it?
I downloaded this on nodata early in the year not sure if it was vaporwave or not. Cool shit, really spacious clean aesthetic going for it. His earlier stuff is some pretty solid Burial rip-off shit but I prefer his vaporgarage shit.
A trip said before that the reason mu gets so assblasted about self promotion is because we are conditioned not to see OC as "legitimate". Everyhing that comes from 4chan is supposed to be memes so any time someone violates that unspoken rule all the neckbeards get mad.
Why the fuck does every vaporwave album sound the same? It's such a stringent aesthetic, no one ever experiments with sounds beyond dreamlike ambient drones with pianos, repetitive synthesized elevator music, and distorted 70-80s pop vocals.
Does that not get boring to listen to? Does that not get boring to make?
I played a CD of a bunch of random vapor tracks I really liked on a car ride with my dad through nighttime Cape Canaveral. It was really chill, especially with the tacky tourist spots, pink neon signs, and the beach off in the distance. If I remember right, he called it "boozer music".
>no one ever experiments with sounds beyond dreamlike ambient drones with pianos, repetitive synthesized elevator music, and distorted 70-80s pop vocals.
Because the smaller the genre, the more aggressively experimenting and thinking outside the box is discouraged. Everyone's too fucking obsessed with calling everything else "not true vaporwave" that the genre will never be allowed to grow.
I feel like all internet microgenres are doomed to this fate, just by the very nature of the internet.
That new EIGHTXNIGHTS release on Dream Catalogue really pushes it outside the box, I've been enjoying it. Some other releases have been really different as well and they're usually the better ones. That Namaste_95 one was crazy, some of the stuff on Tokyo Exchange too like Vision Girl andthe Metropolis album, which sounds like an outrun album made with a vaporwave aesthetic in mind, it's really unique.
There is plenty of broporwave being released all the time, but if you keep your eye out there's always good shit to find.
Never heard anything innovative out of DC. Just copies of specific earlier and better releases. Vaporwave is so narrowly defined that anything that's strictly vaporwave like DC can't be innovative. All the innovative releases are labeled as a new or different genre fusion
Less of the blind Dream Catalogue hatred, we had enough in the last thread from the Business Casual owner. There's plenty of good releases on DC, and I just told you one. I can list you some more if you'd like?
Here's some DC releases chosen at random that I think are all fairly original releases. If anything DC is *too* original at times to the point where their releases are hardly vaporwave or the connection is thin. That would be my criticism of them, which is the exact opposite of your one, which makes no sense to me.
I'd prefer it if we banned people from complaining about Dream Catalogue. I'm sure 5 of the last 10 threads I have been in have gone to shit because of people doing just that.
So let's actually talk about vaporwave, eh?
I have a fun game to play. Go to http://vaporwave.me/discover, flick through 5 songs and link us the best of the 5 you found
No, they go to shit as soon as some fuckhead from Dream Catalogue comes along and starts shilling all their generic vapormeme artists making it impossible to discern between actual discussion and le epic viral marketing. It's reached the point that I just flat out refuse to listen to any artists who release music through them.
I'll get us started
I got track 3 on here, it beat out an early Infinity Frequencies song that came up. I prefer his later work.
I didn't shill anything pal. I countered your argument and you didn't have a comeback so you start crying and accuse me of being from Dream Catalogue.
So yeah, talk about vaporwave, play this game I just made or fuck off.
been looking through,
Ugh, you're fucking pathetic. These threads are fucking pathetic. Believe what you want to believe if that makes you feel better about yourself, I couldn't care less. I just wanted to have an actual vaporwave thread in which we discuss and share vaporwave without all this unnecessary and quite frankly ridiculous hostility.
Wow, reread my post. Did I ever accuse /you/ of shilling? That's right, fucking no. The fact that you assumed I did makes me wonder if in fact that's what you are here doing and your guilt made you admit it without at all being directly accused.
And countered my argument? All you said was "people from DC don't shill!! the real problem is the people complaining about the shills!!" it's not like I can show you IP records of people affiliated with Dream Catalogue frequenting these threads or something, but it's pretty fucking obvious that it happens when there are hundreds of vaporwave albums being released every year, nothing on DC is very good, yet their shit CONSISTENTLY gets mentioned liberally in EVERY fucking thread, spammed on /r/vaporwave, suspiciously dominate any new "essentials" charts and whatever that show up, etc. The fact that SO MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE COMPLAIN is a sign that it's a problem. The complaining isn't the problem, the complaining is the result of the problem - the excessive spam from DC shills. Vaporwave is an underground genre populated predominantly by new, independent artists, and it's completely against the ethos for DC to try to snuff out other talent through the sheer bulk of their surreptitious advertising.
DC is going to fucking kill vaporwave, mark my words.
i really feel like this is one of the best vaporwave albums ive heard
Er, yes you did accuse me of shilling, or at least someone did. I guess I mixed you and someone else up.
I countered this argument >>51097485
And then all of a sudden I have people calling me a Dream Catalogue shill. Well I'm fucking sorry for mentioning a very popular vaporwave label in a thread about vaporwave.
This is why I am complaining about the Dream Catalogue haters. Like I've said, in around five of the past ten threads I've seen nothing but you guys complaining about Dream Catalogue and it totally derails the thread.
So I try to get the thread back on track, and guess what? I'm a Dream Catalogue shill again!
This is seriously pathetic. You guys are blindly hating a label simply because it's popular, no other reason. I've never once seen anyone shilling Dream Catalogue music, or maybe it's because it just goes over my head because I don't really give a fuck if people are posting vaporwave music in a vaporwave thread?
>DC is going to fucking kill vaporwave, mark my words.
I actually kek'd at this. God damn man, how melodramatic can you be?
i dont even have to read whatever you guys are arguing, just based on this post, i can tell you have pretty close ties to dream catalogue. youre arguing pretty admittedly against absolutely every person who shit talks them.
my question to you is, why can't you just accept that they're shit and get over that you have a different opinion than them? is it because *gasp* you're shilling your shit on here?
>tfw you realize lil b made one of the first vaporwave songs
No, like i said, I really give no fucking shits whether you like DC or not.
What I do care about is you guys derailing vaporwave threads as soon as they are mentioned by accusing anyone who mentions them of being a shill or viralling. It's fucking retarded.
Anyway like I said, I'm out of here. These threads are for idiots who only have half a brain.
yeah that's why you don't just let it go and then rage quit when you lose the argument.
i gotchu girl, i gotchu
alright adolf, lets ban everyone who doesnt agree
i always leave these threads with a little less respect for dc. i used to listen to every album that came out, but this guy just wont quit
Rad Magma would have been cool. Used to follow him on tumblr back in 2012 and he's since disappeared. Probably would have just run a circuit bent gameboy through a reverb pedal, though.
>DC is going to fucking kill vaporwave, mark my words.
Hard fucking truth man. Just look at what they've done already. Before the DC bandwagon rolled in, these threads were pretty cool. New people getting recs, people sharing a decent variety of releases, talking about the ones they like.
Now vaporwave threads consist of people unexplainedly dropping DC links in with zero discussion value, someone complains, and **someone** becomes extremely upset and starts bashing on everyone and everything that isn't Dream Catalogue. I've even noticed people saying Floral Shoppe and Eccojams are legitimate shit because they're old.
They've already killed vaporwave on /mu/. It's only a matter of time before they ruin it everywhere else.
it's probably still the guy from business casual
he went crazy in the last thread when i said his label was shit and he went on a two hour rant about dream catalogue
I made a vaporwave song a few days ago what do you think.
(vocals courtesy of Sarah McLachlan)
For the record, Business Casual is broportrash. But all I saw in that thread was you crossing the line and personally insulting him and his looks. Whether or not it was him, you're a shitty person to personally put someone down to defend your precious Dream Catalogue label. How else would you know his name and what he looks like?
>Now vaporwave threads consist of people unexplainedly dropping DC links in with zero discussion value, someone complains, and **someone** becomes extremely upset and starts bashing on everyone and everything that isn't Dream Catalogue.
this isn't what happened in this thread or the last one though, you're the one derailing because you won't shut the fuck up about dream catalogue
just stop bro, it's fucking humiliating
>Now vaporwave threads consist of people unexplainedly dropping DC links in with zero discussion value, someone complains, and **someone** becomes extremely upset and starts bashing on everyone and everything that isn't Dream Catalogue
couldn't have put it better myself
I WANT SOME VAPORWAVE TUNES that focus heavily on sampling or remixing popular/well known pop songs from the 80s/90s/early 2000s. Like, I really like that aspect of some tracks on Chuck Person's Eccojams - Jojo and Toto, etc. I'm talking shit like George Michael, Chumbawumba's Tubthumping, Vengaboyz, Madonna, Fatboy Slim, No Doubt, Sixpence None The Richer, etc. etc.
Pls and thnx
>mfw they only played broporwave and nothing else
This, I love them and want their cocks in my tight virgin butthole shooting frothy elite vaporwave cum into my colon so i can feel the true superiority of their vaporwave releases coating my insides. Thanks Dream Catalogue, you make life worth living. I'm releasing my firstborn child on DC :^)
LMAO I love how Dream Catalogue have successfully dug their own grave because now anybody who mentions them in a positive light is going to immediately be dismissed as a shill.
>Oh wait, never mind, because nobody who isn't a shill for them would ever genuinely say anything good about their extremely mediocre releases :~)
A lot of the year's best vaporwave albums have been on Dream Catalogue. They're really the best thing going in vaporwave right now to find the best new releases. Don't get me wrong, there's still a whole lot of great unsigned producers out there, but DC is a great place to find new stuff.
It's typical that you guys have started hating on them as soon as they get popular, just like what you did to Macross, Saint Pepsi, Fortune 500 Eco Virtual and Blank Banshee. It's such a childish mentality.
>Macross, Saint Pepsi, Blank Banshee, etc.
Lol except that never happened bro, people still love them. The only one I've seen copy any flak is Saint Pepsi because he went retro pop for dat sweet commercial appeal.
>A lot of the year's best vaporwave albums have been on Dream Catalogue
A lot of the year's best releases have been independent, idiot. You've said this at the end of almost every dying Dream Catalogue hate thread
Are you serious? Macross was getting so much hate 3-4 months ago, Saint Pepsi has been getting hate for way over a year and Blank Banshee gets a mix of hate and respect, but he used to get hated on a lot when he first started getting big.
No I haven't, but you just confirmed that you're the same guy who wrecks these threads by raving about Dream Catalogue until the threads die by saying that. It's getting super annoying.
There's two types of people in these threads as of late
1. People complaining about Dream Catalogue viralling
2. People complaining about people complaining about Dream Catalogue
Never have I ever seen anyone from Dream Catalogue viralling when people have been complaining about them doing so. It's becoming obvious to me that there is a small group of people instigating a hate campaign against them for some reason and it's getting really tiring and destroying these threads.
Tokyo Exchange is one of my favorites and it doesn't get talked about that much around here, sometimes I see it though
You guys do realize there is a thing you can do to stop all of this right? it's called ignoring. It's what noise general does, and they usually have pretty great threads. Can't we just have some normal discussion? I assume we all love vaporwave, so let's stop fighting.
You guys do realize there is a thing you can do to stop all of this right? it's called not shilling your shitty label in every single vaporwave thread then pretending you aren't.
Everything on here I listen to and it's great, there is even Dream Catalogue shit on here and everyone said what should be put on here so all this bitching has to be samefag
are you retarded? You keep posting these "different people" posting how "dream catalogue isn the bad guy" posts and it always ends with "business casual is actually the bad guy" and it's so obvious, please, for the sake of your own label, just stop. Probably the biz cas guy has posted in the past, but the only time biz cas gets brought up is when you say "it's probably biz cas", and he probably realized it's not worth fighting over because it's gonna end up making him look bad.
so just stop, please.
but really, I'm fucking sick over their obnoxious obvious as fuck viralling and I'm making a point of avoiding them so I can give other attention to other artists who need it because they don't have a fucking label behind them spamming their shit everywhere they can. What's the problem?
The funny thing is, nobody would think it was BC unless they had a personal vendetta about him. That label is completely irrelevant. They stopped being relevant over a year ago, and were very rarely mentioned. Then the DC defense force starts up and suddenly BC is thrown around constantly. If nothing else, DC's own defense at trying to be better than BC has brought more attention to BC than ever before.
people are mentioning BC because someone called that label shit in the last thread, then the BC guy got mad and started yelling about Dream Catalogue and it's carried on into this thread
Eh it's like any other chart, I like some stuff, don't like others, and some things I like aren't on the chart like pic related.
And no I'm not DC all the DC people in this thread are being meanies
Actually attaching pic
I would just have DC represented by this alone on that chart
I honestly think all these people bitching about viraling are the same faggots who tried to do the same thing but everyone hated the music they made so now they are bitching about actual good releases DC, BC, etc. put out. You all seriously have nothing better to do? Just shut the hell up if you don't fucking like the music, Jesus christ. This is why /mu/ is shitty, we are supposed to talk about and discover new music, not sperg out on people who actually like it.
Anyone here got any vaporwave fashion recs?
>want to cop this so hard
No, in the last thread someone posted a business casual link, someone started trolling dream catalogue by saying the guy who was shit talking business casual was dream catalogue, and all hell broke lose.
At this point it's obvious everyone is just trolling you Dream Catalogue
I warned you. But you did not listen to me. Now you will reap punishment of your degeneracy.
does anyone else feel embarrassed to be a fan of vaporwave when you come on these threads? since i first discovered it a couple years ago, i've held it very closely to my heart. my ears have been exposed to great music from bandcamp labels and those who just release their albums independently. i've always held this music in a high regard because it separates tself from human emotions or personality. to come on here and see fellow fans and producers act so viscous is discouraging. i wish robots just made vaporwave.
its just a very competitive genre right now. there are like 3-6 new vaporwave releases every day. not only that but its promoted pretty strictly only online. so i think thats why the vw threads get so heated. but it really discourages everyone when it happens i think. it would be so nice to come on here and actually get good recs and good conversation instead of just nonsense 24-7
>to come on here and see fellow fans and producers act so viscous is discouraging
I don't think "viscous" is the word you were looking for, but it sure makes this sentence bizarre.
We need a vaporwave forum of some kind. The lack of anonymity is what is causing this hostility. People wouldn't act this way if their names were attached to what they were saying
I think it'd more change the fact that nobody would viral because they have their name attached. But we already have that with the /r/vaporwave forum, and it's essentially the same thing, only slightly more upfront and with way less discussion.
You know what's killing off these threads? People bitching about "viralling" altogether.
So what if someone posts their music in a thread, is that really offending you? If you don't like it, move on. You're not getting extra internet points for crying "viralling!" every time someone posts a link or mentions an artist
>You know what's killing off these threads?
Said literally everyone in a vaporwave thread who really doesn't know what's killing off these threads.
>So what if someone posts their music in a thread
More like "so what if someone tries to trick you into liking their product through lying and deceit", and if that right there doesn't offend you, you're missing the entire point of vaporwave.
You're so insecure with yourself that you're worried somebody might trick you into listening to their vaporwave album and that scares you? It's you who needs to change.
If you're really sure someone is viralling, guess what the best thing is to do? Ignore it and talk about something else. Crying about viralling all day and night certainly doesn't help anything.
>It's you who needs to change.
Confirmed for not actually understanding vaporwave. So do you just listen to it because you think it sounds cool or something?
>Ignore it and talk about something else
And here's the problem. I have been doing that. But you immediately assume everyone you disagree with is 1 homogenous bunch that are ruining your precious threads. I made 1 post of legitimate discussion and you immediately accuse me of being 'one of them'. You're truly more paranoid and insecure than the people you're bitching about. I hope the irony of your post isn't lost on you.
>Why does my understanding of vaporwave have anything to do with why people complaining about viralling is fucking annoying?
Well if we shouldn't be allowed to complain about vaporwave viral marketing, there's no problem with corporations making fake accounts to vote brigade, make fake testimonials, excessively abuse product placement, plaster advertisements everywhere, and generally deceitfully trick the general public into paying attention to their product, right? I mean, is that really offending you? If you don't like it, move on. Besides, it's not like the anti-consumerist sentiments that created vaporwave in the first place, and lie at the essence of the entire genre are pointing out exactly how that's harmful or anything.
But still, the best thing to do is just ignore it and let it go away. Like >>51103569
said, people will and do ignore bad albums even if they are viralled here. You don't need to act like a public watchdog to protect us all from the evil virallers that you detest so much. I find you and the people like you WAY more annoying than anyone posting links to music, even if they are posting their own and pretending they're not.
Read the thread bb. See >>51103592
>I made 1 post of legitimate discussion and you immediately accuse me of being 'one of them'
I never complained about virallers in the first place. I simply pointed out that a forum with names reduces viralling. The fact that, again, you find anyone who isn't either bitching or posting links to be 'one of them' is far more telling of you than it is of me.
You're so confusing. One moment you're saying it's fine to call out virallers, the next you're saying you don't?
Now you're trying to make me look like the bad guy and implying I have a hidden agenda by saying it is "far more telling of you", which is the EXACT attitude I am sick of and why we desperately need a vaporwave forum. All it takes on this place to destroy a thread is some amateur sleuth to accuse someone of having an agenda and that's it, the thread is gone to shit because of the anonymity. That is precisely what has happened in this thread and almost every other thread for the past few months. People are slinging shit everywhere because they're hiding behind anonymity.
Can someone please make a forum?
I hear the guy that made Myst sometimes comes in these threads.
Luke. If you are here can you re upload Myst please.