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>black people made Blues

>black people made R&B

>black people developed rock and roll

>black people started house music

>black people started techno

>black people made hip-hop

So why has no recognized that blacks are pretty much the superior race when it comes to modern music?
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>>50315706
Reminder that black people made onkyo, lowercase, ambient, k-pop, minimalism, and post-rock too
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>>50315835
>post-rock
How is Mark Hollis black?
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>>50315835
>post-rock too
>posting irrelevant subgenres
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white people made psych rock and folk though

Those two are the best.
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>black people made all the shit genres
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>>50315870
>psych rock
>posting irrelevant subgenres

>folk
>thinking folk is just post-1960 white americans with acoustic geetahs
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>>50315904
>gospel
>not absolutely overflowing with shit music

are we being bamboozled?
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>>50315706
What is up with this board's fixation on race? It's like bizarro /pol/ or something here.
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>>50315900
>irrelevant
>psychedelia
End yourself for Adolf.
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>>50315706
>OP's mom invented deepthroats

>OP's mom developed the double penetration

>OP's mom started cuckolding

>OP's mom made the facial

So why has no recognized that OP's mom is pretty much a superior slut when it comes to modern sex?
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>>50315706
The only one of those that approaches being true in a broad sense is R&B. All American music ultimately derives mostly from 19th century folk. Black people were responsible for introducing polyrhythmic drumming and contributing many new elements, as were innovators from many other races, including more recently non-western artists.
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>>50315941
wrecked
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>>50315900
>psych rock
>irrelevant
Hahahahaha

HAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHA
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>>50315706
>no jazz
>no funk
What are you even doing?
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A shame white people do almost all of those genres, but much better.

Also who is the most recent popular black rock musician?
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>>50315928
/mu/ is the battleground where people from all corners of the internet come to start shit. If only music weren't such a common normalfag hobby.
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>>50315933
>>50315957
>muh subgenres
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>>50315835
black people inventing ambient
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>>50315960
because white people haven't destroyed jazz and funk yet
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>>50315967
>rock
>21st century

Who the fuck cares?
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>>50315973
OP posted blues, which is a subgenre of folk music, and house music, which is a subgenre of electronic music.

>Muh subgenres

More like

>I have inflamed autism please shit in my mouth
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>>50315981
but they sure tried

*cough cough*kenny g*cough*flea
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>>50315981
What is smooth jazz?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xlfnedlb7iU

White people have thoroughly fucked up jazz's image. There's still good jazz being made but nobody has any respect for it because white people.
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>>50315999
Rock isn't a sugenre, its a fusion of a number of completely different genres to make a new one.

Electronic is a means of production, not a genre.
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>tfw /jazz/ gets barely 50 replies but a b8 thread like this will get 100+
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>>50316034
Try /soulfunkr&b/, we get even less.

>>50314571
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i thought white people made techno
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>I d-d-d-did it first!!

Whitey perfected most of those genres, so.

>d-d-doesn't matter, only the initial vision can take credit

nah
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>>50316034
>tfw try and start conversations but there's only ever 5 people in /jazz/ on a normal day and you feel inadequate trying to talk with jtg because he just knows so much more than you
That being said, discussions are usually amazing once they do get going over there.
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>>50316065
Because there is a difference between inventing and perfecting.
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i for one am in awe of all the developments the noble black man has bestowed upon us (^_^)
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>>50316033
Electronic music is music made electronically
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Who invented guitars, synths, and computers?

Oh shit yeah white people oh fuck I guess they invented all those genres for a bunch of black people to discover later when using those instruments oh shit thanks white people.
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>>50316096
>tfw America now has one confirmed case of Ebola
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>>50316079
there is a difference. the black community can take all the credit they want for inventing a style. white people can take credit for adopting that style and making it 100 times better.
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>>50315706
Black people made the foundations of most good music and white people improved it (sometimes)

Black music's probably better than white music overall tbh, feel bad that they don't get much recognition because the superpowers of the world are just /pol deep down
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>>50316052
are you serious
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>>50316136
The guitar has history going back thousands of years to Asia.
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>>50316138
What the world needs is a good apocalypse. Depopulate everywhere and abolish electricity.
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>>50316141
>100 times better
According to who?
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>>50316138
>literally cannot spread in countries with running water and disposable gloves
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>>50316153
Modern guitar the "black man" used was developed by Western Europeans.

Saying any race invented anything is ridiculously racist and it's hysterical to see it on /mu/.
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>>50316141
>and making it 100 times better
what about jazz
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>>50316138
>he went to the hospital 5 days ago
>they sent him home
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ITT: people falling hook line and sinker for teh race b8 :^)

/mu/ love to show their nasty side.
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>>50316182
Yes goyim, it's totally not airborne...
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>>50316207
>/mu/ love to show their nasty side

That's its only side.
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>>50316188
should've said "usually".

don't wanna sell the black man short d:^)

>>50316181
anyone who isn't a pleb
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>>50316212
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Is Rock and Roll really that black of a genre? I mean, Rock originated as the merging of Blues and Country and people like Bill Haley were making the same music at the same time as Chuck Berry
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>>50316120
dude can you describe the general characteristics of Electronic Music for me?
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>>50316223
>anyone who isn't a pleb
So just the whiteys?
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>>50316188
>implying "white people" didn't make outstanding jazz
>what is ECM

In my own opinion, white jazz > black jazz
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>>50316244
pretty sure it was considered "race music" during that time period, regardless of who was performing it
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>black people started house music
That's not true. Actually Charanjit Singh started it in 1982. ALL GLORY TO INDIA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUqnPYwoiF4
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>>50316262
>In my own opinion, white jazz > black jazz

only on 4chan would we need to distinguish between white and black jazz
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>>50316052

Techno started in Detroit.

The reason you think white people made it is because white musicians outnumber black musicians.


>>50316144
>white people improved it


why do you faggots keep saying this?

Black people are only 12% of the population, logic follows that white people are going to be more dominant.
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>>50316034
Stop liking pretentious shit.
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>>50316096
thank mr skeletal
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>>50316262
>In my own opinion, white jazz > black jazz
Hot onions, bud
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>>50316277

Exaclty.


white people had to have a white face before they could be publicly approved to listen to jazz, rock and roll, etc.
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>>50316246
Yes. It is music made electronically.
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>>50316294
>thinking jazz is pretentious just because you don't understand it
HAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>50316246
music made primarily with electronic instruments

that is the only characteristic
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>>50316262
You should go listen to>>50316025
Think about how that askews the quality of white jazz overall and rethink your opinion.
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>>50315975

Didnt 60s electronic dub inspire alot of modern ambient. At the same time that Eno was around. Not sure tho
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>>50316341
define "made electronically"

>>50316361
define "electronic instruments"
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>>50316343
Stop being such a fag. You, yes you, in particular are the reason nobody likes us.
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>>50316341
so all Music thats been recorded digitally is Electronic Music?
i mean otherwise we wouldnt be able to hear it
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>>50316332
Wasn't really until the British Invasion that rock was established as a witeboi genre. You could probably say The Beatles "cleaned it up", honestly. Their first couple albums sound pretty devoid of that black soul that defined early rock and roll.

Thankfully this sterility was reversed when the rock album came to power in the late 60s.
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you skipped doo-wop you son of a bitch

also anyone who denies OP's assertion is just lying to themselves. african-american is american. otherwise we are just euro-mutts. we did contribute to psych music without blacks though, that's about it. also wasn't techno more so a european thing?
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>>50316136
>implying if it weren't for the sun there would even be an earth on which music could be made
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>>50316390
please explain
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>>50316364
Why would I give a shit about Kenny G? He's a hack. It doesn't askew my viewpoint at all. Most of my jazz favourites are by white people from late 60s up to early 80s, so I'd say I tend to prefer "white jazz". Jazz by the black people is of course amazing as well.
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>>50316188
Jazz would be a matter of taste, fans of avant-garde jazz might prefer whites or at least they would certainly be open to acknowledging whites made some of the best jazz. Obviously black artists are a majority in jazz but there were many great white jazz artists as well though a lot of them went further into the avant-garde territory and thus aren't always associated with jazz.
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>>50316430
You give people the impression that all jazz fans are elitist pricks. Nobody likes elitist pricks. You are the reason nobody likes us.
>>50316442
>white jazz > black jazz
Kenny G (along with most other smooth jazz musicians) falls under white jazz. That doesn't detract from the really good quality jazz made by white people but keep in mind that if you're post was implying that on average white jazz > black jazz then you may want to consider that smooth jazz is arguably the worst thing to ever come out of jazz and has completely ruined it's credibility as far as most people are concerned.
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>>50316380
you know what we mean by electronic instruments, asshole. genres are a guideline, not some strict list of definitions
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>>50315706
Because white people have made all of these better.
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If for "modern" you mean succesful, everybody recognizes.
But white people invented the well tempered system, and all the music you cite is tempered. Schoenberg was white, and he wrote the final and most complete harmony manual, and all the music you cite follow harmonical rules.

The "black music" you cite is just black people following old rules made up by white people and calling their output in a fancy way, when it would be better calling it "heavily rhytmical 4/4 music with hints of harmony" ( techno ) or "12 bars 4/4 rhythms following a I - IV - V harmonical progression".

Real Modern white ( and black ) music defies all those rules ( tempered system and harmony ), changes them, finds new rules and new beauty canons.
The genres you cite are, instead, just different adornments on a well known and overly abused base.
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>>50315706

Attributing the creation of all music to the blacks is a preposterous lie. Blues is a derivative of the combination of classical, spanish, french, polish, folk, indian and gospel hence the term Creole.

Astonishingly enough, every modern genre of music can be traced to Creole. Listen to any popular rap song and either the guitar riff or the baseline will be a Creole progression, or two overlying progressions combined to create blue/creole.

Wikipedia tells you blacks created modern music through the bastardization of gospel, which is a laughable sentiment at best. Like all great forms of art great music can only be credited to the conglomeration of a hundred thousand great musician's songs merged into a singular idea.

This falsified doctrine that only blacks are capable of creating competent music is truly erroneous. This racial stigma is so great that whites are afraid to dance in their own country if they aren't drugged up on molly or ex.

The purpose of this falsification is to instil the message into this generation's musicians that the creation of great music is a result of division, when in all actuality the nativity of truly great music lies within unification.
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>>50316034
>tfw /noise/ gets 100 replies but 65 of them are shitposts of /mu/tards thinking they're funny
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>>50316507
I never consider the negative in these cases. Only the amount of good material matters.
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>>50316509
Everything with an amp is Electronic music
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>>50316559
An amp does not generate sound, the string on the guitar (or other instrument) does. A synth is electronic because it uses an oscillator to create the sound
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>>50315706
>white people invented all the technology and instruments for those genres
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>>50316507
>You give people the impression that all jazz fans are elitist pricks
Nothing i said made me look like an elitist prick. I think that it's you that jump on the "all jazz fans are elitist pricks" bangwagon. All i did was pretty much calling that guy a retard for saying all jazz is pretentious.
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>>50316580
if you're not smart enough to create wonderous creations with the tools you made, you are worth nothing. Nothing.
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>>50316583
I meant bandwagon not bangwagon lol.
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>>50316604
lol
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>>50315852
>mark hollis invented post-rock
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>>50316604
calling my next porno that
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>>50316580
So we're in agreement. White people facilitate the means, black people create.
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>>50315706
not all of us are dumb cunts who swallow whatever the fuck /mu/ core throws at us. do your own research, and listen to every kind of music there is, and be your own judge as to what is best for you. there are no superior race when it comes to anything on this earth
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>>50316579
if it needs Electronics to create the signifigant sounds of a genre its Electronic music
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>>50316583
>>thinking jazz is pretentious just because you don't understand it
>HAHAHAHAHAHA

>you clearly don't understand it anon
>lol
Think of how that sounds from the other persons end.
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>>50316369
Brian Eno claimed that Miles Davis' "He Loved Him Madly" was a huge influence on his ambient work
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>>50316096
I LOVE YOU EBOLA-CHAN
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>>50316682
>there are no superior race when it comes to anything on this earth
what about athletics?
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>>50316700
I meant that he was dumb for calling out a genre while he clearly doesn't understand it. I didn't say that he can't understand it or even if i understand it.
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>>50316748
yeah, what about it? athletics is a broad and vague classification dumbass
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And none of it would be possible if white non-blacks didn't make the instruments in the first place.
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i hail our chinese overlords
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>>50316824
I meant to backspace that white when I realised it's not just white people making instruments.
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>>50315706
>black people created all of the pleb pop music genres

yeah excellent argument OP
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>>50316696
You have a disability
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>>50316788
black people are always better at it though
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>>50315706
>So why has no recognized that blacks are pretty much the superior race when it comes to modern music?

Because the only reason anyone know about these genres at all is because white people came along and made them good. Pre-white hip hop, house, techno and rock are some of the worst music music ever created.
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>>50316867
yes its called my smarts
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such a /b/ tier thread
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>>50316926
>shittiest post in thread
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>>50316981

dick or gtfo
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>>50317015
mary had a little fam
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>>50316883
You are very smart, don't you?
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>>50315706
>A caveman made the first wheel
So why has no one recognized that cavemen are the superior race when it comes to modern tires?
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Black people created a very primitive form of rock music, that was largely just sped up blues. White people developed it into an art form.
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