hello mallgoths of /mu/ how are you nightchildren today?
This thread is no longer for nightchildren, for I am
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Not OP but this is the goth/dark-geek who usually posts the /darkshit/ threads reporting in
Let's keep this thread going with video/music link bumps etc. I'm going to be going out for a bit this evening but I hope to see a /darkshit/ thread up when I get back.
anyone have a dl link here?
no, I'm just a poser
listening to them for the first time in when my July album of the day ends
darkwave depeche mode or it's not darkshit
ooh witch house
this, reply to people fagtrons
what's the best darkwave you guys know of?
Dark ambient side project of Ego Likeness' guitarist
Tongue-in-cheek mallgoth band
One of the better futurepop/EBM artistz
here, just got back from /darkshit/ night at a local nightclub. (umm I kind of have a crush on a girl I sometimes see there but don't tell her that >_>) Was fun seeing goths/emos/metalheads dancing to shit like Die Antwoord, Kavinsky and M83 that's barely/not-at-all related to /darkshit/ (since it's more of a general "dark alternative" night than straight-out "goth"/"industrial") mixed in with Joy Division and NIN. On that note, I'm in the mood for some mallgoth:
this sounds like a typical interpol cover band from this era, pretty bad
i would rather have 80s post-punk/goth that sounds like early Di6 and Crisis than revival stuff
>4 of the greats on one ticket
ANYONE PUMPED FOR THIS SHIT?
probably not your genre
also it's my experience that when you recommend a band that sounds similar to another band to someone on /mu/ asking for something that sounds like (whatever) they usually don't like it
so it goes
oh, ya know, just some tunes originally whistled by Garth Marenghi.
THEY CAN PROVE NOTHING, THEY DONT KNOW WHERE SHE WENT
why did this show have to die so young
Brits have a habit of ending shows really quickly.
Quality over quantity and all that.
Some more /darkshit/:
Because it was a parody of the kind of cheesy unwatchable bullshit that TV stations actually do cancel early upon realizing they've made a giant fucking mistake in approving and airing it
>implying tales from the darkside wasn't the shit
>implying it didn't run for like 3 million seasons
reruns of that show at my grandparents house was my childhood
I like songs where you would dance to them if you heard them in a club, but the lyrics are actually distrubing as fuck when you think about their meaning:
if you havent yet, you should check out all that Graham Lineham and Chris Morris have done. Brilliant shit.
Well, theyre not entirely similar, but Lineham wrote for some of the stuff Morris did.
If you like making fun of the Catholic church(catholics still love the show, though)- Father Ted
If you enjoy making fun of wine drinking book reading middle class people- Black Books
If you enjoy tech/geek humor that isn't shitty like TBBT- IT Crowd
I've yet to really watch his latest venture, Count Arthur Strong.
Dark satire, mocking pretty much everybody.
-The Day Today, mock news program featuring Alan Partridge. TV adaption of On the Hour.
-Brass Eye- mocking media and sensationalism. Offensive and controversial, one of my all time favorites. He tricked notable politicians and celebrities into endorsing insane shit on TV.
-Nathan Barley- making fun of hipsters in Britain, featuring the guys from Mighty Boosh and Ayoade from IT Crowd. Was made in 2002, so years ahead of Portlandia.
-Jam- TV adaption of Blue Jam. Spooky, creepy, very very very dark humor.
On the Hour- mocking news radio. Fantastic, witty, a great listen.
Blue Jam- ambient radio series. Showcases Morris's love of ambient and electronic music like BoC, Bjork, and Aphex Twin. Just as spooky and dark as Jam.
Four Lions- dark comedy again. Making fun of dumb people doing dumb things. Morris probably has a bounty on his head now for some Islamic extremist organization.
There's been instances where the the venues management refused to let them play due to antifa and other bullshit groups pressure and threats.
Wasn't there one where they almost had a riot on their hands? Fuck I seem to remember about DIJ being banned from a certain town in sweden or norway.
If you find goth cheesy it's because you're incapable of identifying with or relating to the themes and aesthetic. That's perfectly fine but if that's the case there's really nothing in the genre for you.
>Aural Vampire (J-Goth)
Is this okay here?
It's Southern Gothic.
I'm listening right now and it's pretty cool
>Faith and the Muse
>Cruxshadows (remixed by Subway to Sally)
>Chris & Cosey
>Electric Hellfire Club
Sure. I post in the soundcloud threads every now and then. Be warned, though, half the track is black metally.
noice, that band is so damn weird. They've got quite the unique sound. I wonder if they're still active, since the singer seems to be more focused in The Deadfly Ensemble.
I find the lack of gothic rock in this threads disappointing.
lol I like Youth Code and I'm glad they're playing both mainstream and alternative venues for exposure
Both regular /mu/ and Pitchfork readers seem to not like them much though
Bullshit, they're clearly right-wing extremists and their weak attempts to cover it up with edgy verbiage are laughable
No, but perhaps you should have done it on the metal thread.
Katatonia DID do a goth rock song (kind of a partial tribute to Fields of the Nephilim) but one and only ONE in their entire discography.
Lebanon Hanover - Tomb for Two
>post-punk, coldwave, minimal wave
Why can't shit like this ever happen where I live
probably not darkshit, I was at Welle:Erdball
Show was supreme, music pretty repetitive tho
How did "Industrial" come to describe stuff like VNV Nation and Assemblage 23 anyway?
I mean I like that stuff a lot but nothing could be further from the truth as a description than "industrial"
>>48459120 >>48472951 it's dumb because most people associate industrial bassically with aggortech or even futurepop
industrial is shit like SPK or cabaret voltaire or NON
electro-industrial imo is my fav genre off industrial shit, aka skinny puppy and wumpscut
industrial rock is pretty good, earlier ministry or nine inch nails
all the dancy dark stuff is normally considered to be aggrotech and the more synthpop but with a robotic/army beat and often gloomier atmosphere is futurepop
>I mean I like that stuff a lot but nothing could be further from the truth as a description than "industrial"
I totally feel you bro it's cause a lot of actual industrial artists started making dance music like spk and skinny puppy was popular and incorporated a lot of the sound. Basically those were the stepping stones for the evolution of the word, that and industrial's true successors, noise and PE, already had names
I think loads of straight away post-punk bands are pretty industrial in the original sense of the word. Joy Division for example
I agree that the term has been misconstrued and diluted since then and most modern industrial is weak. Telling someone you like industrial could be interpreted very badly
Douglas McCarthy of Nitzer Ebb:
Front Line Assembly:
>go to industrial disco, hoping they play good shit
>they play Eisenfunk, Agonoize and bad dubstep Blutengel remixes
>get slapped in the face by CyberloxxXXXxXxXxzzz™
>some take up 2m2 with their giant skirts and decor
>men wearing short latex pants and net shirts that can definitely not afford to do so
>everything is blinking
>everything is neon
>everything is bright and colourful
I know I'll get shit for this but I actually like that the local industrial/goth night I sometimes go to has started mixing in small but noticeable amounts of emo, synthwave, techno and metal as well as the usual EBM/darksynth >.>
oh man, nitzer ebb is some good shit. used to be into them a lot...now theyre just good 'dancy' stuff to me
anyone tried the frozen autumn? for those who like depeche mode with a more openly romantic feel, i guess you'd like it
their albums Chirality and Emotional Screening Device seem okay
This makes me sad. That club needs more militarism. pic related
As far as rock music that has real industrial in it goes a lot of early sludgecore bands are also like that there's some really fucked up tracks on eyehategod and Noothgrush albums that could have been lifted strait from a TG album
oh man thats the godawful shit
i used to listen to lots of shitty aggrotech at 13 to 14 and then in smaller doses
IDK off aggrotech you should only try Aesthetic Perfection's (if you haven't) A Violent Emotion album. Others are usually hit+miss or just bad
if you go to industrial disco ull prolly get cybergoth stuff and if you go to goth disco youll prolly get mallgoth or metalhead mix (NOT EVEN NU GOTHS, NU GOTHS LISTEN TO PRETTY NICE MUSIC WOAH) or sometimes youll just get the victorian goth stuff without original goth shit which isnt the worst but just annoying in some form
hey guys calm down
post punk had some contact with industrial and influenced industrial sounds plus vice versa, but i dont think you should call post punk a thing very close to industrial
its better to connect post punk with goth though there are two types (not officially but lets say) of post punk aka the lighter one which led to indie development and the darker one which led to goth development. so idk if were speaking about darkshit, its better to connect post punk to goth rather industrial - remember the cult bands siouxsie and the banshees or the cure - both produce(d) post punk AND goth rock BUT MOSTLY SOMETHING INBETWEEN.
im not fond of NON myself lmfao. its really weird to me
i like spk and cabaret voltaire tho. OH LETS NOT FORGET THROBBING GRISTLE but it even sounds more just experimental (prolly only bc its a pioneer or precursor of industrial)
You know what's funny about Shriekback?
That they're mostly playful, happy funk-inspired rock but they're almost only known for three /darkshit/ songs off of one album:
is sharespammer still a thing? I remember actually getting a couple cool darkwave albums from her
speaking of, the link for this was dead in the archive
Clan of Xymox - Medusa
>Darkwave, Ethereal Wave, Gothic Rock
Skinny Puppy - Too Dark Park
>Electro-Industrial, Industrial Rock, Sound Collage
I was kind of mixed on it. I'v enever been too big a Skinny Puppy fan, but I thought that album was amazing. VIVIsectVI was less synthpoppy than some of their other stuff that I'm not fond of, but I don't feel it was as well-arranged or complex as Too Dark Park. Maybe I should give it a listen, I feel as though I may not have given Skinny Puppy a fair chance.
Chelsea Wolfe - Apokalypsis
>Gothic Rock, Post-Punk
Chelsea is fairly popular on /mu/, I just like that she's from my hometown. Not that she ever plays here...
Is there any darkwave that isn't completely corporate-sounding and derrivative? I'm listening to Clan of Xymox and sounds whatever but I can't help but feel the fakeness and corporateness about it all. I like gothic atmospheres, but more like Joy Division or early Bauhaus who, while popular, manage not to sound like complete sellouts to me.
What do you mean? Her guitar tones are pretty gothic I thought, idk what else to call it
Now that's some good stuff
Every club needs more militarism
Got hooked on Die Form recently thanks to one of the local DJs
Die Form - Bite of God
Die Form - Slavesex (XXX Version)
Hesitant to make recommendations because typically when someone in a genre thread says "I like one or two examples of this genre buuuut...." they usually don't like whatever suggestions they're provided with.
I want to hear darkwave that doesn't sound really insincere if you understand where I'm coming from
I consider myself an open-minded person, I'd really appreciate if you had any suggestions
Lovely old school EBM. I'm going to see The Frozen Autumn, Mizar and Nachtmahr (yeah, yeah, they suck and Thomas Rainer is fat, but still it's a high profile act in this backwater)
I'm guessing you don't like the poppy feel of darkwave (most of it sounds like melancholic pop). You should try more post-punkish stuff like Pink Turns Blue, Sex Gang Children, Virgin Prunes, UK Decay, Ausgang, Red Lorry Yellow Lorry or Theatre of Hate.
I feel like Ego Likeness and ThouShaltNot (well, Seeming now since ThouShaltNot is no longer a thing) are fairly genuine but mostly because I follow those artists on social media and they have a very sincere attitude
it's mainly synthpop/new wave that I can't into because I just get bored and feel like it's corporately manufactured to be emotional
I've heard Pink Turns Blue's first album and feel similarly about them. I will check out Sex Gang Now though
See, I don't have any problem with post-punk, gothic rock, or deathrock
It's darkwave that I can't into because of how close it is to synthpop and it all just sounds really manufactured and insincere to me. I was just looking to see if anyone knew of any darkwave that doesn't sound like what I'm describing.
I'm drunk and I'm gouing to post:
Prometheus Burning - Blackmagick Tongue
>because I have a feeling that none of you really know what's up with this genre lately
>plebs the ;lot of you
I've been following quite a few of the newer genre releases.
As a result I think I can safely say that if an artist was signed to Artoffact Records within the past 5 years it's probably a good pick
>you can thank/murder me later
Nadya, is that fucking you?
Not into mopey guitarey music, so have some electronic stuff of varying clubbiness
Apoptygma Berzerk - Bitch
:wumpscut: - Wreath of Barbs
Icon of Coil - Remove/Replace
Rotersand - Merging Oceans
The Klinik - Fever
pitchfork is okay. dont remember deine lakaiens stuff but it was average i think. diorama has some nice tracks. die form???havent they become ebm futurepop stuff now??? if early ones, then post the yt links
should check das ich tho.
uh diary of dreams????maybe
im not a fan of that stuff but i like Sopor Aeternus & The Ensemble of Shadows
also you can try the Cruxshadows but theyre not pure w/ the neoclassical thing..same would be with L'Âme Immortelle
oh you could try Malice Mizer
emilie autumn for victoriandustrial
Rose Red Flechette
Click Click - Sweet Stuff
Sleepchamber - Thee Light Pours Out Ov Me
Chris & Cosey