>tfw my Mac plus shirt will be here in A week
have a link
play everything to do with vaporwave/mallsoft <3
This one is weird, Im not sure if its Vaporwave or not, But its definetly very 90s.
Inb4 goofy filter house
even tho this ones a little more on the housy side
just found this the other day http://deathsdynamicshroud.bandcamp.com/album/online anybody have anything with a similar sound, or just samples videogame audio? love the ps1 feel it has. bonus points if you can find a cassette release
you should include harley's list in the next OP.
also, to the person who asked last thread i bought the virtual CDr off discogs, but i got the seller to take a decent amount off the price. idk why there's still a copy up, they probably have more to sell.
People seemed to like my new album in the last thread, hope you all like it too. I have a limited number of free downloads on bandcamp available so if you want to download it remember you can also download it from my soundcloud.
That was me who asked, what was the final price you got for it? The one's still up for $80 so either the guy's sitting on a few or he's just lazy
Also here's a chart for Harley's list
finding a balance between postmodern cynicism and modern naivete
see: Infinite Jest, etc
seriously fucking google it
another term you can half-understandingly attach to vaporwave is Accelerationist, if you'd like
anyone have a link to this?
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Anybody know of any good vaporwave + trap artists?
I know of a few but i need more
> vaportrap, trillwave
i always assumed vaporwave was music thats also a critique of global capitalism, usually made by 90's kids raised on mass marketing and the internet. is the recycling of old songs really an essential part of it?
you'll have to find out what the particular artist is saying. to me the music/visuals invokes more feeling then a conceptualization. meaningless media...i'd look into Debord and Baudrillard as mentioned earlier
the recycling of old songs is one element of it, insofar as the effort to invoke nostalgia through fleeting moments.
for example, take a listen to PSR41 off of Laserdisc Visions' 'Initiation Tape - Part One'
the distorted sample here almost invokes the nostalgia more than if she had just sampled the chorus of Africa, and in this way, it almost "objectifies" the nostalgic sentiment
similarly, if we take a look at Solar Panel Smile from James Ferraro's 'Far Side Virtual,' the sound at 0:08 is immediately and poignantly noticeable as the menu screen for the Nintendo Wii.
here, even something so recent as to barely be considered "nostalgia" is still made out to be a fleeting memory via the use and sampling
as >>47941104 points out, though, the interpretation of any art can vary from artist to artist and listener to listener.
as much as an outward, superficial listen might lead one to pass by certain vapor artists as simple rehashes of past work, an analytical listen can unfold layers of emotion
it's just some artists sound extremely vaporwave to me but they're not exactly looping old songs
you sure about that?
theres no rules to art man vaporware is just the word associated with a look and sound, no set rules, just people making things. its not just one thing and not this, things naturally branch out the more people become involved.
dreams are in pipes
i think i prefer the anti-capitalist haunting apocalyptic aspect, the newer purely nostalgic tumblr shit kinda bores me
it's like the genre is slowly being watered down but i suppose its inevitable
vaporwave itself is a critical simulacra of not only nostalgia-invoking music, but of the concept of music/muzak as a whole
from it's inception, it was bound to be watered down and reproduced, because that's what it stood for to begin with
>from it's inception, it was bound to be watered down and reproduced, because that's what it stood for to begin with
if that was the plan all along, why did most of the original vaporware artists disassociate themselves from the genre?
because they said what they wanted to say
art evolves and transforms, and artists discover things about themselves as they create art
while i wouldn't presume to speak for any artist, my guess is that they felt like they had expressed what they wanted to as best as they could through that medium, inspired a unique way to look at not only art, but culture, through a critical lens, and then decided to move on to other ventures
>God... Fuck you. Just shut up and listen to the nice vibes
this comment actually exemplifies the motivation behind the mallsoft subgenre
in the modern era (modern as in the present, not Modern), people don't have the time, patience, or dedication to critically analyze music or any other artform.
the fact that vaporwave works have been produced that you feel you can just throw on in the background because the "chill vibes" don't require your focus just shows that you are the subject of criticism here
thats an extremely optimistic way of looking at it!
i still think it had something to do with broporwave/just the general uninspired direction newer less talented artists were taking it.
these fucking hacks will never learn, tagging yourself onto something after it gets big never works and it looks tacky as fuck.
>tfw reading simulacra and simulation and now everything around me feels fake
Getting high and going to public places is getting really trippy now. Great book though, I recommend it for fans of the philosophy behind Vaporwave.
i think that the goal of vaporwave artists was never to be "vaporwave" artists or to create their own genre
i think they were making efforts to advance criticism of society into a meta-realm that could capture the spirit of the modern, technological era, and the pros and cons that it brings
when people began to discover their works, they clung onto them and attempted to categorize them without considering the fact that it was a progressing artform with a fluid definition
that's why vektroid has albums that progress through vaporwave, mallsoft, vapornoise, and other various subgenres or 'post-vaporwave' genres, as they've been misnomered
broporwave is the result of people who listen to, and attempt to replicate, vaporwave's superficial aesthetic without an understanding of the movements behind it
this leads to efforts to 'improve' the genre by incorporating more popular, mainstream tendencies (regular beats and rhythm, more overarching melodic veins, heavier direct sampling of music, etc)
jeopardy doesn't have $300 clues
it's the same as any genre i guess. there are always going to be rappers who just want to say words, and rappers who have something to say; djs who like making the bass drop, and djs who like making your heart drop; rockers who want to shred the guitar strings, and rockers who want to shred your heartstrings
blank banshee is chill and all, but my beef is the misappropriation of the vaporwave genre
BB is like trap if trap's older sister was dating vaporwave and trap had a crush on him
I hate all the 3deep5me implications of vaporwave people like to imprint onto the genre/aesthetic; that it's some critique of hyperconsumerism and dystopias of complacency.
Is it so bad that I just want to groove to some fun, campy "pop" music that's somehow completely foreign at the the same time totally nostalgic.
I just made my first vaporwave EP, "SEE/SEAS", and would love some feedback. Don't expect anything too experimental or groundbreaking, as this is my first dab into the genre, and I didn't want to step out of my comfort zone on my first attempt. I usually enjoy listening to the really eclectic, unpredictable shit, but this is very laid back, slow burning, and chill. Tell me what you think.
If vaporwave was ever a critique of capitalism, it has turned in the opposite direction now and embraced it. At least the better artists
I also think there are many more themes explored than just "capitalism" too.
Same, I don't pay attention to any of that shit. For whatever reason, Floral Shoppe blew my mind the first time I listened to it and I've been looking for a similar feeling ever since.
No I actually agree & understand (I actually strangely understand what you mean when you put it that way).
I actually like the way Harley has it on his list as "Fringewave" that doesn't quite fit the vaporwave sub-genres, but has some connections
Hawking this because I'm on track 7. Aside from that, they've put together a really nice and varied compilation that explores all the edges of the genre, one of the best vapwav releases of the year. There's a couple of stinkers as you ge with any compiilation, but the majority of the tracks are excellent
It's exactly the same as the version on his Bandcamp page. On it's sleeve & disc there's a QR code that takes you to a page to download the 'Paradise Disc' - the 6 cool videos he released for the album
I know it sounds harsh, but the reason these "implications" are 2deep4you is because you're not educated. For the vast majority of people who attach these implications, its a natural process. There's no trying, and certainly not enough effort expended to limit genuine enjoyment of the music itself. They're simply a natural extension of listening to the music.
Likewise, if you read interviews by essentially anyone who matters in vaporwave, they all discuss similar philosophical and political themes as being central to both the creation and enjoyment of the music itself. If you want to "groove to some fun, campy [nostalgic] pop music" then go listen to actual pop music from the 90s and early 2000s so you don't have to try to think about anything while listening to it.
Anybody here like Death's Dynamic Shroud? I just found it a few days ago, apparently he dropped 4 hour (!) album a week ago which I think is way too much for me. Anybody give it a listen yet?
This. I found myself daydreaming about LSD Dream Simulator while listening to vaporwave yesterday. Makes me really wish there was some way they could put out a soundtrack for that game, but I don't think they could since it has a dynamic soundtrack. Good fuckin times
Bought both the cassettes, I really enjoyed them.
A bit dissapointed that Ramona used MIDI's from the Geocity MIDI archive and barely tweaked them.
I believe she actually used another one for eCrusing and it was a Yamaha tech demo MIDI
i love them, and i love the bgm/'mallsoft' subgenre
especially as a /mu/tant who works a 40 hour job, i don't often have freedom to appreciate innovative music, but i feel like i can simultaneously appreciate it and not pay attention to it?
that might sound douchier than i intended. oh well
man, i love making vapor tracks but it always feels so generic...i mean, i take the eccojam approach that Lopatin did with keeping minimal loops but it comes off as cheap. i wonder how his loops are so detailed, so perfected to the point where they seem more than just loops
Hey guys I just released an album on my friends new web label, what do you think? It's exactly what it sounds like, my buddy recently got broken up with, and so it inspired me to make an album capturing those sorts of feelings. Any feedback is much appreciated :)
i don't know you at all, so correct me if i'm wrong, but i think one issue people run into is that they're trying to make vaporwave music. as long as you attach a label to something and then try to replicate it, it's going to seem generic.
maybe if, instead of trying to make a vaporwave track, you tried to comment on something or express an idea, and just used that as an inspiration/medium, it would seem more genuine?
Just give up, We dont need anymore shitty /mu/ broporwave "artists".
I listened to the first track and its just terrible, It sounds band straight up, even the echo effect sounds like shit.
You just put a song into Virtual Dj and slowed it down with a couple of 8 bar loops in it.
Im wasting my time even telling you why its shit, Its not even worth it
well thanks for the feedback. I'd suggest listening to what broporwave actually is before calling things that, whatever the quality... try saintpepsi or nmesh.
What do you guys think of this?
Not put it out yet, still working on a album. Might take another month at this rate.
Pic also related the album cover
late nite delight original blue issue
mediafired pathway through whatever BotR issue
?????VIRTUAL on cdr
miami vice - culture island on floppy disc
a couple others in the mail...
My first attempt ever at vaporwave.
eccojams was $105 including shipping
got it a few months ago, when copies were going for $240 now they're at $350
in the mail is disconscious & computer dreams/napolian(also on botr but an overlooked release)
I've got Disconscious in the mail as well as General Translator
I've seen quite a few copies of the Computer Dreams split on Discogs but never gone for it
Looking for a copy of Diskette Romances or YYU to pop up
haha, funny story actually...i commented on the facebook page of their label and asked if anyone had an extra copy they didn't want..the label responded and said they'd make an extra copy just for me. pretty cool
yyu isnt strictly vaporwave is it?
also im looking for that cybereality tape and that eyeliner cdr (the first one) since i didnt get a copy when it came out
High Fashion Mood Music or LARP of Luxury?
As far as I know they're still selling the former off the Bandcamp page (at least that's where I got it)
I might try that Diskette Romances trick because I really love that EP and would kill to have it on tape
Sure thing bud : ^ )
This is really good i like the later tracks more then the first. Maybe switch which plays first
This doesnt sound like vaporwave, maybe a bit like Far Side Virtual? Not sure tho I didnt like that album at all
dude dont spam your music its really annoying to look at
Holy shit that is boring. It doesn't even go anywhere. And I'm guessing you've had the time to hone your skills, and this is what you come up with?
Must have sold out recently because I bought my copy around March and they still had quite a few copies in stock
Also yeah, YYU's not strictly vaporwave but it'd still be nice to own
Also looking to pick up the Surfing tape or Midnight Television
this is the only thing i really have on my bandcamp thats vaporwave
never listened to surfing actually
midnight television is very hard to find apparently as well
Its not out yet ; )
Holographic Internet - Super Sexy Swimming Sounds
Check him out great stuff.
You are literally just biased because I called yours shit though.
I dont hate you as a person, Dont let your parents hate for you boil over into the internet : )
Thats bretty good sissy
Not Vaporwave obviously tho, Pretty lo fi however
you have to be good at attaining and searching, i've found tons of hard-to-find things that aren't vaporwave by just being very diligent in searching
in fact, i hadn't even started collecting vaporwave stuff until around 2013 even though i've been into it since it started
i've kicked myself multiple times for not buying mac plus when it came out but whatever
you just gotta know where to look
I might shorten it a little actually, Its only meant to be the album opener.
This would be a better example
it's kinda chillwave-y, but it definitely shares aesthetics with vapor
It's live instrumentation as far as I know though, so that keeps it from being true vapor
Still has an 80s porno soundtrack vibe to a lot of it
>Fucking terrible. Go off yourself.
That wasn't even me, you retard. Don't let the fact that you've never actually seen a tit other than what's currently displayed on your computer screen get you mad.
i appreciate the relaxed sound, which is what i look for in mallsoft, but i could go for a little more upbeatness/less tight looping
also, the sound quality is a little gritty compared to releases like hologram plaza
It just sounds like somthing thats been really really distorted. I dont really know what to think of it.
It reminds me a little of James Ferraos earlier stuff like this.
whats wrong with spam? i have nothing against spam. 'peoples stupidity' ? when you are forcing your paintings down the public forums throats just keep forcing it, don't bother chatting to the locals.
here's something ive been messing around with..
good / bad
I'd say you could get away with it had Vektroid not already done a MIDI cover of Easy Lover as the opener to Home™
It's also a little bit simple, which is by no means a bad thing, but that's just my opinion
another eccojammy thing I threw together a while back I wouldn't mind feedback on
this seems really overwrought
i'm not sure what you're trying to get across here... fake leaves, fake gold grapes, fake marble, fake gold paint - would suggest the bust is weeping at the artificiality of nature
juxtaposition might also suggest, instead, that it's nature being augmented by modern aesthetic
that said, >tumblr
my initial thought was that this was someone kissing a mirror, although that's obviously not true
taking the title, 'etheromance,' into account, i'd guess that this is a moment of duality wherein a person's desires become clear to them through an ether haze, and they become enamored with those desires, only to realize they were within themselves all along
ETHEReal rOMANCE was kinda the thing I was going for
sounded cool in my head
"In Your Eyes" by Peter Gabriel
a lot of his 80s output works really well
that first song I posted was the same Kate Bush/Peter Gabriel track that Lopatin used for that one Eccojam that goes "Don't give up now"
I threw together the last few songs I'd put together into an album of sorts but it's kinda a lazy hodgepodge (I guess that's what most vaporwave turns out to be these days)
I dubbed a copy to tape for myself and friends for fun and put it up on bandcamp but it's not anything I'm proud of
There not in Vaporwave.es because its mostly not Vaporwave.
Most are in this Pastebin tho
Aight here we go
Forever Young - http://a.pomf.se/duxnpl.mp3
Canned Heat - http://a.pomf.se/cfzpnx.mp3
When in Rome - http://a.pomf.se/zugdrf.mp3
Sorry they aren't lossless, the .wav files took wayyy too long to upload.
Any requests? I'm in a vaporwavey mood and I'd love to do a few more but I'd feel like an asshole doing more than 3
what do you use to make your jamz?
any peripheral equipment, or just online samples mixed through audacity?
i'm not sure how good i'd be at the music element, but i'll take a whack at the art side and return with results
damn dude. Forever young is one of the best eccojams I've heard in a while
yours has the same issue as >>47947201
both use too long of fragments with not enough regular looping involved, imo
i'm more interested in something like "i wanna be forever" looped and progressively distorted