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The /mlp/ Waifu Wars Discussion Thread - 'High Risk' edition

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Basic intro go.

>What is /mlp/ Waifu Wars?
/mlp/ Waifu Wars is a Wresting League where various mlp canon(possible AU) waifus wrestle each other in a videogame called Fire Pro Returns. So one show you might see Sunset Shimmer vs Starlight Glimmer, and the other you might see Celestia take on Derpy. Think of this like the 4cc, but on a smaller scale and involving only mlp and wrestling... and possibly more explosions.

For a clearer look note the two highlight videos.

First Main League - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gdZuRpZXZY

First Babbies League - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GZZC1kdhRU

This place is just discussion about various ideas and such that I have. As I said in the last thread there's several things I want to do.


1. Allowing 'Waifu Coaches' to come in and change the AI of their Waifu. Then again, the FPR system is quite... unique in it's AI, so you'd have to know the game or read some sort of FAQ to run it.

2. Add more Waifus by 2018, at least have Fetus League Going on.

3. Possible time switch for convenience, maybe running two days a week.

4. Betting/Prediction system.

You can give your thoughts on these if you wish, or shoot any ideas you might have my way.

Also, there's a strawpoll going on for the Waifu coaches. http://www.strawpoll.me/13228773

This is an idea that would be... probably a lot of fun to do. Mainly what you'd be tweaking as a coach would be the behavioral AI. See, there's three %age switches.

One that goes from Sensible to Risky(Do you go for possibly the damaging high-risk moves or play it safe)
One that goes from Pinning focused to Damage focused(Do you just quick pin repeatedly instead of doing damage to help your pins)
One that goes from Not Flexible to Flexible(Do you stick to your strengths even when it's not working or do you adapt to your opponents style?)

Anyways, yeah, fire away with comments.
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>>30352604
What's happening in this picture? It looks kinda kinky...
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>>30352941
... It's just a wrestling elbow drop in a bed.

Maybe I should stop using header images.
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I take it no one wants to help their waifu, alrighty.
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I'm gonna bump this and then probably take a look at the current percentages.
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Here's the AI traits that the waifu coaches would be editing. You'd have 100% to fill of each trait.

PERSONAL TRAITS:
YES <XX%> - This would equal a LOW setting, or low pro wrestling traits (Wrestler will wrestle a less risky match)
NO <XX%> - This would equal a HIGH setting, or high pro wrestling traits (Wrestler will go for more risks)

DISCRETION:
YES <XX%> - This would equal a LOW setting, or low discretion (Wrestler will focus on DAMAGE as opposed to pinning to win)
NO <XX%> - This would equal a HIGH setting, or high discretion (Wrestler will focus more on going for pins with any damage then going for damage moves)

FLEXIBILITY:
YES <XX%> - This would equal a LOW setting, or low flexibility (Wrestler will NOT attempt to ADJUST to his opponent's style to counter him)
NO <XX%> - This would equal a HIGH setting, or high flexibility (Wrestler WILL attempt to ADJUST his style for a better match instead of going to their strengths)
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Also still no luck on the Treehugger trophy picture.
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>>30354194
Sorry man, getting swamped, but I could get around to something this week probably.
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>>30354267
Sure man, whenever you have time for it.

Just would like it before next league in three months for the header image.
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>>30354108
Hmm, that's an interesting thing, might need to see in practice a bit.
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>>30354469
It'll take a while to put something up regarding what it looks like at different numbers, but if you're willing to wait a bit I'll start getting stuff recorded by the end of this week.
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I might record some basic stuff in a few.
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>>30354469
Okay, here it is.

I used Lightning Dust and Indigo Zap considering they have the same exact AI.

Their stats are as follows(Yes/No)
Personal Traits:
20(sensible)/80(risky)

Discretion:
35(damage)/65(goes for wins)

Flexibility:
20(no adjust)/80(adjusts to opponent)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfX1KtlfEv4 - What would happen if LD(with 100% sensible) faced Indie(with 100% Risks)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJwtnoKut5s - What would happen if LD(with 100% Damage oriented) would face Indie(with 100% Going for win oriented)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROpkSExXk-E - What would happen if LD(No Flexibility) faced Indie(with all flexibility)

Then we added Chryssi to this.
Her stats are:
Personal Traits:
25(sensible)/75(risky)

Discretion:
35(damage)/65(goes for wins)

Flexibility:
30(no adjust)/70(adjusts to opponent)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9Rqtr9HTZA - Chryssi vs LD repping no risks, going for pins, no flexibility

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcGovHRE55o - Chryssi vs Indie repping all risk, all damage, all flexibility

Also, just cause.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUFO5BV8qkQ - LD vs Chryssi, both with the same cpu logic setup as Chryssi.
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>>30356653
Please note that this is only one match outcome of dozens and no one's truly invincible.

You'd probably be looking for a setup that works the best that it can instead of something perfect.
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>>30356653
will watch soon, thanks for recording
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>>30358135
Combined, it's about 45 minutes worth of footage.
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Bumping again, good thing I got 3 months to find someone who wants to coach their waifu.

Here's your list of groups for September:
Group A would be: Chrysalis, Fluttershy, Treehugger, Maud
Group B would be: Dash, Twilight, Celestia, Lyra
Group C would be: Sunset, Pinkie, Cadence, Trixie
Group D would be: Luna, Vinyl, Tavi, Spitfire
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COACHING
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>>30363690
Coach the waifu, anon!
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>>30363690
If push comes to shove every waifu can just stay the same AI-wise, but you know, the options there if anyone wants to take it.
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>>30365811
understandable
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>>30369227
Yeah, so if people complain about their waifu not winning matches, it's their fault for not coaching them.
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Going to sleep, have a bump.
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There might be a few matches getting uploaded this week.

Special ones.
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Extra video will be:
Fatal 6-Way:
Trixie vs Rainbow Dash vs Sunset Shimmer vs Pinkie Pie vs Applejack vs Adagio Dazzle
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Wooop, match.
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No Commentary, but have the Fatal 6-Way!
Trixie vs Rainbow Dash vs Sunset Shimmer vs Pinkie Pie vs Applejack vs Adagio Dazzle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5WSfv42gaA
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>>30376848
RAINDOMINATION
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>>30377335
We'll see, new league is September and still... Chrysalis handed Dash the loss in the finals of the last main league.

And no one has stepped forward to coach either of those two. In fact, only Twi has a coach.
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>>30377368
I'm kinda lost
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>>30379574
In what, anon?

We've done two leagues.
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>>30377368
I'm still pondering on coaching Celestia. How difficult is it to emulate the game and do some test runs for different stats?
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>>30379901
Well, I mean it's a PS2 game so probably as complicated as that. I know it can be done though, so... just depends on your CPU. Stats can't really be changed, so it's just the AI stuff that could.

Even so, everything usually breaks down to the stuff.

If you want me to record a few tests with changed AI parts, I could do that for you.
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I might record another match this weekend, not sure what though.
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>>30381590
Is there a normal play mode in the game or do you just throw whatever together?
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>>30382092
What do you mean Normal Play?

Like an arcade mode? It doesn't have a story mode or anything like that if that's what you mean. I pretty much put together AI vs AI stuff. I can play though.
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Anyways, going to casino, so someone keep this bumped, and tell me what you want to see recorded, if anything.
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>>30382721
>going to casino
good luck
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Didn't win anything, woop, anyways, match requests?

New waifus to make?
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Taking that as a no for anything.
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>>30384800
C A R R O T T O P
or Copper Top.
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>>30384800
>New waifus to make?
AJs mom.
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>>30385614
Will work on this.

>>30386317
I'll make her, but I'm not sure if she'd belong in as a Waifu or a MILF league thing.
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Waifu Wars Small Plan:
Try to put out One Match a week until September.
Try to find anons willing to coach their waifus.
Think about wiki archive.
Think about betting/predictions(Challonge?)
Think about working on how to dual commentate.
Think about Husbando of the Ring.
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The dreaded pre-bed bump attack!
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>>30387415
she'll feel that one for weeks
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Recording will happen today, a match or two will be done.
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>>30388210
nice
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I have made new waifu and new match.
Zecora(NEW) vs Chryssi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGRYCb1qzBQ

Zeebs is hard.
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>>30389985
Sweet, that was good to have a new opponent.
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>>30391973
I'm probably making Gilda soon.

Not sure when these will be added to the league though. Probably not till next year.
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>>30389985
Did they play rock-paper-scissors towards the end?

Man, she's undefeatable
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>>30392569
It's a voodoo trick thing. Mainly meant to stun opponent so you can do something after.
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>>30392182
>Gilda
Fucking A

>next year
Fucking hell
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>>30394094
It basically comes down to the league needing to be balanced. Right now there's some extra waifus already made, but not enough for an expansion.

I mean the extras will still be wrestling and stuff, just can't add them to a league until I have enough to balance everything.
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>>30394653
I see
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>>30396630
Yeah, we'd need a whole new 24 waifu crop to expand the stuff.
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Carrot Top's on my short list too.
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>>30400669
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>>30399754
Nice
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I'll eventually have things to post, I swear.
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Here's some planned additions for Waifu Wars in 2018(*=made):
Zecora*
Limestone Pie*
Coco Pommel*
Lightning Dust*
Indigo Zap*
Lemon Zest*
Aria Blaze*
Gilda
Daring Do
Carrot Top
Minuette
Moondancer
Aloe
Vera
Fleur
Saffron Masala

This only covers 16 though out of 24 waifus.
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Progress.
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>>30407418
Upper right looks like there's a boobsize slider
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>>30407653
Nah, that's just the skin, you can alternate between skin and skin+clothes layers.
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Rule 3. Topics must be show-related. When discussing people, they must be associated with the show and not the fandom.
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>>30407995
Not sure how that rule is relevant to this thread? It's all show characters which he is using, not fandom personalities.
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>>30407995
All show characters, janitor.
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>>30407995
I don't really see how it's in violation of Rule 3 either considering it's got show characters involved.

Then again, I assume it's just a lack of understanding that caused this post.
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Gilda match tomorrow.

Anyone want to give me an opponent request?
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>>30410575
She should fight Coco Pommel.
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>>30411501
wonder if we should get a suri
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>>30409090
Show related doesn't mean you can simply drizzle in show characters and make a thread about something irrelevant to the series, tripfag.
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>>30412460
Okay anon.

Following rules on /mlp/ meta would take out 90% of threads, have a nice day.
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>>30412390
Gonna make Suri too since you want Suri.

>>30411501
And she'll face Coco.

But first, Gilda.
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>>30416621
Bird girl it is
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>>30418603
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>>30416621
great, i just remembered her with coco talk
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Here's your Gilda vs Dash match.
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>>30420626
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzOXfhZ7lG4

Forgot the link, wow.
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>>30420632
that was probably not how she pictured that match
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>>30420632
Well fuck.
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>>30420775
>>30421420
Still, it was a crazy close match.
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List of weekend things to work on.
Carrot Top
Suri Polomare
If I have time, Strawberry Sunrise.
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>>30420775
>>30421420
Gilda looked up to Dash for a reason
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>>30426430
It's too bad she won't be added to the league until like next year.
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>>30426430
And then got destroyed by her
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>>30428168
Gilda will come back. Maybe.
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>>30428984
Probably just in random matches.

Right now, Carrot Top, Suri, Strawberry Sunrise all on my list though.
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Sour Sweet has been requested, woop.
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>>30429937
>>30430695
Oh boy
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>>30429937
>Strawberry Sunrise
Oh shit, that sounds great!
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This is really rad stuff, yo. Good job.
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>>30433117
Thank you, haha, I try my best to give you guys something that I hope is a little bit entertaining.
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Made Carrot Top.
Decided to use James Storm moveset.
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Working on Suri right now.
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>>30436244
How long does it take on average?
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>>30438027
It depends on various things.

1. If there's official EQG art, which I use for the attires because you know, need clothes, and the outfits usually work.

2. If there's no official EQG art, I normally look for various fan stuff. Then I find a look I like or combine looks or just makeshift something up.

3. Then I need to copy over the basic model base, this is just pretty much the default model with the moveset. For example, I copy over John Cena to work on Twilight. This is usually easy unless I have NOT decided the base.

4. Then I give the character the same stat/parameter things that I do for everyone.

5. Appearance edits, this can take anywhere from 15-60 minutes depending on how much I think about said character and how complicated it is. Some things just will not work in FPR, so they have to be changed. Multiple tone hair can be complicated.

6. Testing Phase. 800% speed AI vs AI, multiple standard matches to see that the AI's not being the worst AI ever. Normally I look at match length instead of victors. Also, use Undertaker as my ref because he's my 'average' ref. Even across the board.

Total it depends, if I'm focused, it could take 30 minutes, if I'm not digging it, a few hours.

If you're asking where Suri is, I just have her base and some minor things edited, I got sidetracked on other things.
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So I heard you guys like girls wrasslin
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Is that Wanna Be Strongest In the World?

To tell you the truth I prefer Kinnikuman and Tiger Mask W to it in terms of wrestling anime. But girls wrestling always is a plus.
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>>30440338
It's actually from this week's episode of TMW; the girls got their own showcase. Made me miss the absurdity of KEIJO! and hope for a follow-up to Tiger Mask.
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>>30441326
Ah, nice, that's a bit unexpected, considering NJPW backs it and how Joshi wrestling is in it's own companies instead of a division in the major companies like in the US.
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Suri is complete now also. Probably will record something soooon.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xwy7PfFq6cI - Carrot Top Debut vs Berry Punch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcl3_iBcXqs - Suri Polomare Debut vs Coco Pommel
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>>30444639
I feel good about getting two done over the weekend.
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>>30445464
Good work, it was worth a watch
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>>30449193
Thank you anon, I do my best.
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bumperino.
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Anyone else got any waifu requests or... well... want to be waifu coaches?
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>>30452367
I'm afraid
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>>30452705
Afraid of what?
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Happy Murica Day.
My plans are advancing, so yay.
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>>30454434
Sweet, good luck and enjoy 'merica day
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>>30456264
I did enjoy it, lots of fireworks were fired off.
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>>30452716
failure
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>>30458547
Well, you're interested, so who are you thinking of coaching?
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