The Future Of Rainbow Dash Presents

>>29576917
Implying that they continue making MLP content.

>>29576917
Honestly? Past Sins. I think every other popular fanfic from 2011 has had a decently sized animation except that. Plus with all the Nyxposting it's more relevent than ever since /mlp/ is the biggest fanbase for RDP

>>29576929
citation please.

>>29576967
look I'm going to bed anyway and it's a miracle I'm even being nice about PS. You do it.

>>29577011
sure good night anon.

>>29577029
<3

>>29576967
On which part? Greg himself recorded the "Oh baby" RD lines in a thread a while ago which went on to be apart of /4cc/ goalhorn. He also made an animation for the board in promoting /mlp/ for the cup. That's quite a bit to say that /mlp/ likes him

>>29576917
I had only discovered this shit about a month ago, along with the mentally advanced series. Shit's cash.

>>29577048
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>>29577174
Did you find the old original abridged MAS using show footage, or the animated MAS?

>>29577258
There are copies available on youtube, but Greg & Dawn Somewhere can't have them on their own channel because Hasbro.

>>29577258
Both. Definitely worth it.

Any other fanimations that are similar?

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>>29576929
Beyond Nyx, is past sins that bad?

>>29576917
Greg said it's hard on the checkbook (what with JewTube and all) but maybe we could all chip in a few bucks towards the completion of a new RDP and it'd get done. Honestly if every person gave 2-5 dollars it'd probably be enough. Hopefully Greg's lurking and sees there's still interest in RDP

>>29576921
>implying they don't
DYEWTC

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>>29577399
It's not just money. It's also a question of time and how many hands are available. I think Petirep has had a more open schedule lately, but he's trying to tighten it up so it's not like that's a permanent window. NormanRangle recently departed to devote more of his time to the next Mystery Skulls video. Copy is still with us, but currently she's the only other animator aside from myself - and Petirep, though he's using an "Essentials" version of Toon Boom and has mostly done short-form content so far.

A new RDP is doable and Petirep and I talk about it sometimes, but it's logistically more complicated than everything else we do because they're bigger, longer projects and no longer handled by two guys in college with ample free time.

If I stopped everything I was doing right now, we could probably complete a new 20 minute RDP in six months with the people we have now, and have it be fully animated to boot, but then nothing else would get done. Also Youtube won't share it around that much because of how the algorithm changed.

RDP is a lot riskier and diverts everyone away from every other project, is the tl;dr.

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>>29577611
Actually I tell a lie. Copy is the only other regularly available animator. We have another guy who works with us on his off time for fun and I know some people, but for long term planning I'm looking at who's open often enough to get stuff done.

>>29577611
Oh shit is this FIMFlamPhilosophy?

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>>29577649
Yep, this is him.

>>29576917
R9Klight

>>29577611
>>29577648
Well fug.

Oh well. I'm plenty happy enough with the content being produced at the moment, and you know what's best. You do you, man.

>>29577664
Damn I forgot about how the people of Dawn Somewhere are users of /mlp/.

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>>29577664
>>29577648
>>29577611

>>29577611
Listen...this is something I've been meaning to ask you for a long, long time...

Who is your favorite poner?

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>>29577720
I used to like Celestia back when we thought she was cool! Before six seasons of consistent failure. Poor Sunbutt.

Trixie did a pretty good job in the finale of season 6, though! I really enjoyed her quips.

>>29577738
If this is really you FIMFlamPhilosophy, tell us your answer to this question:
What will the next Rainbow Dash Presents be about?

>>29577738
Thats some pretty good taste ya got there.

>>29577771
see >>29577611

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>>29577810
I'm so going to heavy drinking for this.

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>>29577738
Being Celestia is suffering, with a healthy dose of jobbing thrown in for good measure.

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>"Drink me, Anon! You know you want to!"

>>29577399
I bought both copies of their DVD's at nightmare nights dallas. The video quality is much lower than if I had just downloaded them on youtube, but I wanted to support them.

>>29576917
Fo:E

>>29577738
I was never that impressed with Trixie in Season 1, but I really like what they've done with her character lately, having her "reformed" but keeping the passive aggressive attitude she has toward Twilight and her friends.

>>29577611
Greg, big question, when a lot of other fandom content creators seem to be leaving the fandom, what is it that drives you to stay?
Not asking in a condescending way, I've followed your stuff for years and still think it's all hilarious, new and old.

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>>29577174
The negative MAS series is pretty terrible. Greg completely lost the vision of the original series. And what the hell was he thinking in the opener of negative season 2?

The original MAS though, episodes positive 5-12, is fantastic.

And RDP Star in Yellow is absolutely stunning.

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>>29577174
Also, have the unreleased episode 11.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6wkgdpcXXM

>>29578277
>Fo:E

That's really not a bad idea. Summarize it for all the people who haven't seen it, take it a little less seriously for those who have, and overall give a dark fic the lighter-and-RDP-ier treatment.

>>29577716

>Not knowing Greg and his wild apes run around this place.

Talk about showing your new.

>>29578796
I disagree. the openers of S2 was Fucked up, yeah, but the rest of the negative series was good.

Just as long as he doesn't go full retard like he did for Return of harmony, he's good.

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>>29577611
Greg, I'm apprehensive about your creating a new RDP.

You no longer remember what the characters are like, at all. You no longer remember what the world is like either. I don't know which is worse; the two are also inseparable.

Negative season two featured a randumb goblin. And you've deigned to output 40-second pieces of randumb 12-year-old-humour youtube garbage.

The randumb goblin was just the finishing blow. MAS had already almost completely ceased to be mentally advanced.

I wish you had given the negative series a new name.

The only reason the latest RDP was good was that you presumably wrote the script years ago before you utterly forgot what MAS/RDP was.

Remember how you once said in a personal time that you wish all the ponies had gone to a different land so the new MLP would be a different show with a clear distinction from its original vision?

I wish that you had done that.

But it's too late. At least please don't ruin RDP by writing a new script in your current mindset.

>>29578901
Technically, it wasn't random; it was a reference to a G1 character to showcase how absurd some of the G1 characters were.

I found the episode to be a miss, but there was still a point to him.

>>29578277
>>29578819
I have thought up of a concept for fallout equestria rpd. It basically replaces the characters with canon characters and has a wizard of Oz parody to it. If this thread is alive tomorrow I will show off some concept art.

>>29578924 for >>29578920; typos.

>>29578924
That has absolutely nothing to do with MAS. MAS had a cohesive world narrative, theme, and sharp humor. Introducing some stupid, driveling goblin from a previous generation is abysmal unless the character is modified to conform to the MAS vision, let alone namesake.

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>>29578666
I honestly can't get away from the ponies. It's hard not to enjoy drawing them and writing about them. I have complaints about the show and I think that maybe we've lost a lot of the magic that drew people in from the start, but it's so easy to think of funny things when I reflect on their magical little world. Even when they get so far away from their original characterizations, it's kind of like a second level of meta.

They win every empty, meaningless fight there is in the show, but they never win the fight against the people who own their intellectual property. That's a battle they're losing, and they have no idea. The universe itself is slowly closing in on their bleak, adorable existence.

>>29578920
If this is Pontology, you're underestimating how much good it does to work with stick figures in a proactive way. Jaycartoons is super simple, which means I can experiment with a lot of technique when I make them. Copy is helping me with tweens on MAS right now and remarked about how far the animation has progressed between this and episode -2 -2. I think taking over Jaycartoons has helped. For you it's only thirty or forty seconds of stick figures, but for me it's eight hours of drilling the basics of animation.

>>29578968

I don't doubt that it does take a lot of effort and time to create just 1 minute of MAS. This newest episode fell pretty flat for me as well. The goblin was something I hadn't realized was a reference and apperently others were in the same camp. Even past that, the whole plot that you tend to pike fun at in a good way came off as lazy and every character in -2 -2 seemed to be just as lazily made. They all felt off from what your typical characterizations are. Maybe it's because it was very heavily focused on Twilight, but a lot of the joking and typical banter just wasn't there and the episode felt phoned in. I didn't have as much a problem with -2 -1.

>>29579019
Each character had about a minute to interact, so it was pretty quick. If switching over to five minutes of animation did anything, it reduced the amount the ponies could argue.

In the beginning of the negative series, I had a plan to weave some bigger stuff into the plot to explain why we went back to the first episodes again, but it never became feasible under the time constraints. There's still a silver key laying around Twilight's house, but I'm not sure whether anyone will uncover it now, if only because five minutes isn't enough time to explain why it's there or how Twilight got it without losing the point of that episode. It's hard to do an A/B plot in so little time.

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>>29576921
Okay, how about.....
Fallout: Equestria?

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>>29578968
Yes, that's correct.

Well, I'm glad I at least understand what you think you're doing with those.

But the merit of art lies in what it is, not how much work you had to do to produce it. I don't care how good the animation is if the script is garbage.

I thought that in one of your personal times you said were going to put different content on separate channels? What happened to that?

When your channel is filling with randumb garbage, how do you think that will affect people who visit it? Do you expect to draw the same audience to which your actual content caters, or push them away?

>>29579019 is spot-on about the trajectory of MAS as well, except that's happening in general, alongside with the fact the MAS-universe no longer exists.

Look at the MAS about Nightmare Moon, for instance. Compare that to Luna as presented in Haunting Nightmare.

See what's happened to the series?

>>29579128

I wish I could offer more concrete points, but I am unable to watch the newest episode at the moment so I can't point specifics out until I'm back home later. If this thread is still around when I get home, I'll try and give more substance to what I was talking about when I said that the dialogue had lost its luster with the newest episode.

>>29577329
There's friendship is witchcraft by sherclop pones.
Like greg, he can't put the series since it was abridged using the original show. But if you find it, i'll recommend the musical episodes. The songs are neato

>>29578949
Yes ploz.

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>>29579303
Greg, it's not just the newest episode. It's everything.

As just one example, take MAS -20, the Nightmare Moon episode. In it, Nightmare Moon is a retard. Contrast this with Haunting Nightmare Luna—the original MAS Luna—who is a terrifying psychopath.

And there used to be incredible wit. For instance, Luna threatens Twilight with being trapped in a horror story for all eternity and then says she was joking, remarking, "If we were serious, we would have threatened something much worse." This is the opposite of how joking about punishments goes and is thus an incredible translation of her FIM social ineptitude to her psychopathic MAS counterpart—this was the type of humor that deserved the title "mentally advanced." And then to add to it, Twilight asks, "What could be worse than being trapped in a horror story for all eternity?" and Luna replies, "Have you seen the dungeons beneath Canterlot?" to which Twilight's blood goes cold. Excellent psychological terror in limning how beyond horrifying those dungeons are. This also tied into other MAS canon; in MAS +6 Twilight says that when she's stressed she just thinks of something funny, like a blind pony in a wheelchair. Applejack asked, "How is that funny?" to which she replies, "Oh, Celestia had lots of comedians in her dungeon." Then this attitude of Celestia toward her dungeon-beneath-Canterlot, which her mother built, tied in with the figure of Celestia and Celestia's mother as presented in Star in Yellow as an element of deciphering what that story told.

And then "MAS" Episode -20 just featured a retarded Luna doing stupid things.

Thus have you completely forgotten everything that MAS is.

>>29578949
It's already tomorrow.

>>29578949
>I have thought up of a concept for fallout equestria rpd. It basically replaces the characters with canon characters and has a wizard of Oz parody to it. If this thread is alive tomorrow I will show off some concept art.

This sounds hilarious! Does the door scene ("well that's a horse of a different color!") become a vault door?

>>29578875
I cried for my sin.

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>>29576917
It was at this moment that I knew, I fucked up.

>>29578949
Yes

>>29576917
I want him to read erotic fanfics about his own Rainbow Dash. His Dash voice gives me inexplicable erections.

I want to do sexual things with her while she's not sure what's going on, but really enjoys it. I'd dress her up in a cute little maid outfit, and have her clean for me to pay rent. Then I'd offer her extra food for doing other things, which she would enthusiastically accept. I'd teach her how to blow me, and make her swallow for the extra nutrients, since I love her. Eventually we would move on to full blown sex, where I'd have her wear the panties from her maid outfit. I'd pull them to the side and fuck her gently while she tells me about this one time she fell in the shower and a tiny shampoo bottle went inside her and how it feels much better this time since it's something she wants and did on purpose instead of by accident and it's warm and not cold but also the shampoo kinda stung a little bit but it's okay because she was already in the shower so she just washed it out. I'd keep going faster, my dick diamonds at this point. I'd finally orgasm when she rambles on about how I'm better than her father because I let her do what she wants and don't try to force her into things like staying in the house all the time. She would have her own shuddering orgasm as she feels the first jet of cum enter her, which she will later describe as "Really weird, but like totally awesome cause it's warm but it felt like it was putting out a fire I didn't know was burning speaking of which can we have s'mores later? They're gooey and delicious and it looks pretty similar I think."

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>>29580177

Fallout Equestria

Reminder to add "Mentally Advanced Fan" to your filter.

>>29580177
>while she tells me about this one time she fell in the shower and a tiny shampoo bottle went inside her and how it feels much better this time since it's something she wants and did on purpose instead of by accident and it's warm and not cold but also the shampoo kinda stung a little bit but it's okay because she was already in the shower so she just washed it out.
>Really weird, but like totally awesome cause it's warm but it felt like it was putting out a fire I didn't know was burning speaking of which can we have s'mores later? They're gooey and delicious and it looks pretty similar I think.


I'm not convinced you aren't someone behind the script of RDP.

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Heh, I know a good one.

http://www.fimfiction.net/story/60514/into-the-depths

>>29580268
Dubs confirm this is leaked concept script for the next RDP

>>29580277
Oh fuck what did I do

>>29580280
something good

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>>29576917
Life and times of a winning pony.
Probably my favorite fanfic, and it's really funny desu..

>>29580268
Kek, it is pretty spot on.

>>29577345
A lot of it is memeposting.

Sure it's not great but it was the only story from 2011 that wrote an alicorn oc as a protagonist and got big.

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>>29578277
>>29578949
So as you anons know, fallout equestria sort of borrows heavily from the fallout out games, particularly 1 and 3. Trixie was suppose to be the master which was the first game's final boss, so I tried to imagine Trixie as a hideous blob creature, but in my mind all I could picture was her giant floating head. This sort of gave me the idea of some silly wizard of oz feel for the fic.

>>29578277
There is no fanfic more overrated than that. We even have our own general on /mlp/. Aswell as being referenced in the show. That part of the fandom needs to die.

>>29580916
>Aswell as being referenced in the show
When was it referenced?

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Here's Twilight as Little Pip. If I recall the plot of fallout 3 being some rollercoaster ride that it was, you could be a condescending asshole and yet became the savior of the world in the end. That's why I envisioned Twilight being the main character who is being dragged around on and running into endless side quests where she does not want to get involved.

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>>29581171
I don't remember much about Velvet Remedy but I want to say she had a bitchy attitude so I gave her the part to Rarity.

>>29580897
>I tried to imagine Trixie as a hideous blob creature, but in my mind all I could picture was her giant floating head
Well, you know, that's how Kkat wrote it, so...

>>29581140
S5 finale

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>>29581213
Applejack as the metal mare or Steel Hooves, because apples I guess. She could be the more straight mare character.

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>>29581250
Rainbow Dash as Calibre. She can be the scarecrow of the group.

>>29581259
Do Nyx

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>>29581259
Pinkie as that one radio host. She basically has cameras set up everywhere and spends her time on the radio trying to convince the proletariat to rise up and defeat the oppressors.

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>>29580897
>who needs courage, when you have a gun

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>>29577611
That kinda sucks, but understandable. Honestly, I'm a bit excited to see what MAS version of Chrysalis will be like.

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>>29581290
And finally the Yellow One as a store keeper because why not. I imagine Twilight taking all the store wares for free on account of her being the savior of the universe.

That's it for now, I'm gonna go to sleep. I still have some ideas in my head I could sketch out.
Honestly, the wizard of Oz thing isn't exactly fleshed out beyond some characters and a couple of scenes. Also I do not exactly know what to do with the other characters yet such as Spike and Luna.

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>>29579553
>>29579128
The point of getting better at animation is that having a higher skill ceiling means having more options. It opens up freedom with the script because I can work faster and better. But I can't verbally convince you to enjoy the series if you feel like everything about it is wrong now.

>>29581259
Dash trying to operate a rifle is an event that can only end in tears. Shouldn't the thing be covered in decals?

>>29582191
>The point of getting better at animation is that having a higher skill ceiling means having more options.

No one that is criticizing you is talking about animation or the quality visually. No one brought this up but you.

>It opens up freedom with the script because I can work faster and better.

Then you should be taking time off of the series to learn the basics of animation. Learning animation (and illustration in general) seems to be something you think takes only a few months to get right when people take years to study it before attempting to make a large project. A person can spend DECADES learning the fundamentals of animation and illustration because there are so many facets and quirks to it. The posters here are telling you that the story quality of your script is subpar but here you are going on and on about how animating takes so much time. Those are two separate entities. Are you a mad man?

You honestly sound like a child whining about how its "soo haaard" to do something. All of this negative feedback falls on YOU. You do not blame the viewer for your shortcomings. If you have multiple people telling you that your overall story quality has decreased then that should be a redflag for you to take some time off to improve yourself. "Oh man i'm so busy etc etc." For fuck's sake man. Everyone is busy. You're rushing into a project because you seem pressured to do so by fans and (what i assume) are the people you surround yourself with. Give it a year or even two years to get better at drawing, get better at animation, get better at story-telling. Put yourself under a microscope and figure out what you need to do to make it work.

Like I tell people in the Draw Improvement thread here, git gud or don't. It makes no difference to me. You're the one that has to live with yourself at the end of the day.

>>29582293

But you're going to skim right past what I've said because that seems like the type of person you are. You surround yourself with people who pat you on the ass and won't challenge you. That's fine. Have a great life, my man. If this is your full-time job then I feel bad for you.

>>29582293
>Give it a year or even two years to get better at drawing, get better at animation, get better at story-telling.
Not this anon, but I'm sure this comment doesn't mean to stop producing content. Just that animation practice is animation practice. But that one sentence is just a sentence; it's everything else.

And Greg, good animation has nothing to do with good script. And guess what? 99% of the merit of a dialogue- and character-centric parody is in the characters and dialogue. This is why people continue to praise MAS +12 as one of the best in the series.

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>>29582293
>>29582294
Last one was Pontology. Is this Aisu? I can infer it's you based on the fact that you're telling me to stop producing content in order to "improve". We both know your personal example for this advice made a lot of progress by studying art for a year or two, but he also didn't have a job, and he lives with his parents, and he did nothing else and had no other obligations. We then hired him to help with the last RDP but had to throw out his work because he half-assed all of it and acted like the job was too stupid for his skill level anyway.

Honestly, I don't think I surround myself with people who pat me on the back. I don't really respond all that much to flattery because I hate my own work and it disagrees with me to praise it. However, I can see how you might have that impression if you surround yourself with people who pointlessly tear things down. There's a fine line between constructive criticism versus trying to destroy a thing because you're afraid to let others realize your flaws.

Chin up, keeping moving. That's my belief! Everything will look better tomorrow if you think about what you did yesterday, and today what you have is all you have!

>>29582439
>Is this Aisu?

No it is not. I dont know who that is.

>Like I tell people in the Draw Improvement thread here

What part of that tells you that I'm someone you know unless you know someone who lurks that thread?

>you're telling me to stop producing content in order to "improve".

Because its good advice. You should take it.

>but he also didn't have a job, and he lives with his parents, and he did nothing else and had no other obligations

I have a full-time job and a family to take care of and I take the time to improve myself as an artist. I don't know your situation so I can't really judge that.

>We then hired him to help with the last RDP but had to throw out his work because he half-assed all of it and acted like the job was too stupid for his skill level anyway.

I don't know why you're bringing this up but your drama with another person has nothing to do with this discussion.

>you might have that impression if you surround yourself with people who pointlessly tear things down

No. It's that I surround myself with people who will give it to me straight while also telling me what I need to do to improve. The same thing I did for you. But you're too dense and self-absorbed to see that.

>There's a fine line between constructive criticism versus trying to destroy a thing because you're afraid to let others realize your flaws.

You're making a lot of assumptions here. I spend a majority of my free time encouraging others to be at their best but also giving it to them straight while letting them know what I feel they need to do to improve. If you felt what I said was "tearing down" then you haven't truly seen what that entails.

>>29582471
>If you felt what I said was "tearing down" then you haven't truly seen what that entails.
It entails burning your bridges. Pointlessly burning your bridges.

>>29582439
I'm not to whom you just replied; I'm >>29579553. And this is absolutely not pointlessly tearing things down. It may be excoriating because that's how severe what you've done with MAS is, but it's constructive criticism.

And you just refuse to even read it.

>>29582439

I am >>29582293 >>29582294
>>29582491 and I think I'm done with this thread. You dismiss everyone as a troll and needlessly bring up drama going on in your life as if we're supposed to understand it. You have deep-seeded issues and the problems with MAS in it's current state seems to have a lot to do with your life choices more than anything.

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>>29582562
Well somebody dramatically announcing they're leaving a thread would know about drama. But at the end of the day, for those who are seeking validation for saying MAS isn't good, I can't do anything for you, and I can't respond to the complaints in a meaningful way.

I'm sorry you feel that way, but changing the run time of the program does impact the script and the speed at which it has to zag through the summary of a twenty minute show. I didn't blame anyone or say it was too hard to write, I said that five minutes is not a lot of time for an A/B plot - it requires a more conservative approach.

The change in format has pros and cons. But in certain cases I've had very specific fans send me long-winded e-mails about the downfall of my work, and how Jaycartoons are the apocalypse of Dawn Somewhere, and this and that.

I know it feels really special when you write this stuff and you want me to appreciate you individually and tell you that you're great and I'm going to fix all of it, and for what it's worth I'm doing the best I can, but a drama queen is tiresome and one of you - not naming names - was the problem child that kept leaking the Patreon link to new MAS episodes then telling everyone it was "for the good of the series". It's not a big deal, but lord. I appreciate the feedback. Thanks, and don't let the door hit you while you're slamming it shut to make sure I notice you leaving.

>there will never be an RDP: Past Sins

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>>29582703
I still haven't read any of the notoriously super long fics like Past Sins or Fallout Equestria. I think the longest series I kept up with was called "Progress", which started back in season 1 and ended after season 2 introduced Luna and wiped out a ton of Luna fanfiction.

>>29582536
>>29582562
I'm not Greg, but you, two fags, are honestly fucking hilarious.

If you're not baiting, then you're severely lacking in department of self-awareness.

For some bizarre reason you made up some vision of how the series should be, based on your out-of-contextual limited perception of what it was and what it is, and now you obsessively try to sell it as some sort of universal truth, or, at the very list, unanimous opinion here, while it's only two of you, faggots, and maybe a couple more, among 30 people in only this thread, let alone thousands of people who watch the thing on youtube.

Strangely enough, you assume that it's absolutely crucial to totally submit to your opinions despite how spiteful they are and how, at their basis, they are just a bunch of vague description of what you don't like. Some retarded even dared to call it constructive criticism. Let me to explain to you, retards, what constructive criticism actually assumes: AN ACTUAL FUCKING POSSIBLE SOLUTION. In your retarded ass case you literally say: "Nu-uh me not likely, everything is shit, reset everything to how it was." It's not constructive criticism you, numbnuts.

More over
>Like I tell people in the Draw Improvement thread here, git gud or don't. It makes no difference to me. You're the one that has to live with yourself at the end of the day.
That's gotta be a fucking satire, there's no way you really think you're such a hot shit jesus.

> At least please don't ruin RDP by writing a new script in your current mindset.
Literally fucking autism.

Kys.

>>29582714
Well then you better start.

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>>29582750
Actually, why has Nyx become a thing again? She used to upset people because she was a little alicorn princess with black fur back when everywhere was aggressively against that. That was before the fifth alicorn hit the show, and before we saw the edgy, broken-horn movie character coming up.

Is Nyx coming back because she finally fits in with the show, and it's like sweet revenge after all those years of bullying in high school?

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>>29582775
You could say it's like that. But really. Nyx is dying. I feel like the last of her kind. She hasn't had any animations of notable value and like you've said, nobody even cares for her. But when I got into Past Sins I saw a small filly I wanted to see smile again. At this point I don't care what anyone thinks of me. Even if people hate her, hate me. Her memory is being talked about and that's the best I can do. I can't say I enjoyed what I've done or become but if I could reset time I'd probabily do this all over again, even if I didn't want to. I'm not going to accept that Nyx is gone.

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>>29582793
I have no idea what you're talking about, but I assume it has to do with the dreadful existence of being a Nyx poster.

Finding the character when you were young and falling in love. Being shunned and picked on for liking worst OC. Growing up over seven years, learning that Nyx isn't cool if you rub off the nostalgia. Then the show introduces a bunch of characters that are like Nyx, and suddenly it's like wetting the bed was cool all along and you were doing it before it went mainstream.

You were too far ahead of your time, anon.

Granted, I haven't read "Past Sins". But looking at Nyx I'm pretty sure that liking her must entail a similar feeling to chronic bed-wetting. Like a resignation, and also a little damp.

>>29582793
Honestly... I never truly hated Nyx. Starlight Glimmer is pure cancer, but I could always appreciate Nyx as a character and the fact that the story she was in was so good, it got people to like her.

Starlight Glimmer fans are braindead apes incapable of understanding why their sociopathic mary sue bullshit pony is anything other than perfect or "Just misunderstood".

But Nyx? I like Nyx.

>>29582875
I enjoy the fact that Starlight is a complete sociopath and that the ponies are drinking their own Koo-aid so badly that they don't see anything wrong with teaching her the strongest magic they know and letting her stay in their castle as long as everyone is "friends".

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>>29582793
>no animations of notable value

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This classic

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>>29582904
kek

>>29582891
Yeah, you can enjoy it ironically, or in a meta way, but...

I don't want to enjoy ponies in an ironic meta way. I don't want to laugh at how dumb the characters are or how shitty the writers are, or how badly Jim Fuckface has fucked things up this week. I miss the days when I genuinely looked forward to seeing pony, even if it was just a shitty s1/s2 episode. Yes, seeing the trainwreck of Jim is fun, but it's also sad, and if I wanted to watch a retarded trainwreck get worse every second, I'd watch a libtard try to insist that despite all the good Trump's done, he's still the devil because at this point, after all they've said about him, they desperately need him to be.

>>29580916
Fallout Equestria: Pink Eyes is monumentally more over rated than the original fic.

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>>29582716
When an obvious solution to >>29579553 is, "Don't make the characters act like retards when it's already been established they're not," I don't need to say that. It's completely obvious from what I said.

And when the overarching obvious solution to >>29579553 is, "Be consistent in characterization and lore," I don't need to say that.

I constructively gave examples of the type of humor, characters, and consistent lore it used to have towards these points.

>>29582911
>9/11
>911

>>29582904
>>29582917
reminder that the guy who made that animation is a revenge ticketfag angry that nyx is more popular than his shitty alicorn oc

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>>29582949
Isn't MAS Luna canon retarded, though? Heck, actual show Luna is a little retarded when she's not dumping exposition.

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>>29583058
Not whatsoever. Just watch Haunting Nightmare.

Meanwhile, MAS -20 Luna isn't even "retarded" in a clinical way. MAS Rainbow Dash is retarded, but in a believable way as part of her character, and it's great. MAS -20 Luna does things beyond retardation that no pony would do, such as wearing a mustache as a disguise. It's not just a different character: it's a different show, reduced from a real MAS-universe with real characters to cheap one-shot gags.

>>29582716
Greg please.

Anyways hey, at least you can't fuck up personal time. Love your content.

>>29582947
TRUE DAT!

>>29582947
Why the fuck did that shit even get popular? It shits on everything FOE stood for was almost as much as Project Edgerizons did, and with less effort or justification.

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>>29583058
heh I'm just picturing Nyx but acting like MAS Luna/NMM with that sort of voice too.

>>29582716

Oh by then all means continue your little fucking hugbox. This thread was ment to jerkoff Greg anyway.

>>29582697
>implying I give two-shits if i get acknowledged by you

Oh boy a stranger who makes horsefucker videos noticed me. I'm so fucking happy.

Nah. Kill yourself. If not at leaat be best shit-tier artist you're capable of being.

>>29583614
Are you really that naive????

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I knew this was a mistake to post this thread.

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>>29583677
There there, anon. No regrets now. Embrace what you've done and be proud!

Usually threads about MAS and RDP devolve into bickering over where MAS or FiW is the worst abridged series.

>>29583614
The original MAS/RDP was just about the only non-shit-tier thing in this fandom aside from a few fimfiction authors; in fact, it was incredible. It was my first introduction to the fandom and damn was that misleading. But by the time the negative series began, it had already ceased to be MAS, and the more recent episodes are cataclysmically bad. It makes me ashamed to have been one of the most ardent fans.

>>29583708
I remember those threads. FIW is so terrible I can't even watch it, so while I couldn't attack it, I could ardently defend how fantastic MAS was. Now MAS is much worse than FIW, for the same reasons but many-fold and with all the concomitants of insipid banality.

I think we're all getting away from the important issue here.

Whatever happened to that guy who did spot-on vocaroos of MAS Dash getting fucked?

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Greg, why are you even focusing on animation as if it's your calling? You'll never be a great animator because you're not a professional animation team. If I want great animation, I'll watch the show. Your strength is world-building, characters, and smart humor.

I can get where the person who didn't enjoy the negative series is too different for him. Because of the need to keep one or two scenes to cut down on animation time for Greg, it loses out on all the interaction that they really get with one-another and keeps to one or two 5-10 minute jokes between a small number of characters(usually). Finally getting around to watching both, the first MAS episodes tend to feel like there is a lot of dead air but a fuller plot/set of jokes. A lot of the characters don't fit well into what I remember/liked about them in the first quarter/half of the original, and while the dead air between characters starts to disappear towards the middle or the series, it still comes around.
As for the negative series, I think it does well with keeping the joke going and capturing (except a few of the newer ones) what I really liked in the characters Greg portrayed. Since by the point of taking on the negative series Greg had really figured out each of the characters he created, they fully work for all of the jokes he makes. That being said, as I stated before, the shorter run time and limited animation ability makes it so he can't keep a joke running through multiple scenes and it can sometimes feel like it is missing characters from what the show originally was because he isn't able to move around.

>>29578968
>They win every empty, meaningless fight there is in the show, but they never win the fight against the people who own their intellectual property. That's a battle they're losing, and they have no idea. The universe itself is slowly closing in on their bleak, adorable existence.

So that's why the speech at the end of RPD Star in Yellow was so depressing.

>>29586984

Adding examples because I saw this was on page ten and didn't want my shitty post to be a waste of time.

If you look at something like the winter wrap up episode, Twilight doesn't have her wit and sarcasm and Rainbow Dash comes off as more of a bro than a dopey upbeat horse (as she acts in the RDP episodes) in the original. In the negative version the characters are closer to what people liked of them near the end of the original and in RDP. There is a lot more depth in the jokes/story that Greg presents in this version than the first, and about the only thing I think I really don't like when it comes to it is the fact that none of Twilight's other friends show up for the joke. In this one even while not having all of the characters on screen, it sticks closer to the original plot with wit and humor added.

Actually, watching them side by side for a select few episodes from the beginning, middle, and end of the series, I prefer the comedy and characterizations portrayed in the negative series and think they fit more closely to those given in RDP. I think the reason I was so hard on the discord two parter is because I think discord was squandered on some joke that I didn't personally get. The last few were a miss for me Greg, but I really do look forward to more. I'm glad this thread helped me realize how much you have improved in both art and writing and that my nostalgia clouded what I remembered of the original MAS.

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>>29582697
Speaking as a third party here, can I offer a few tips that might bring back some of the series' old tone without requiring you to overhaul it completely?

1. Keep in mind that you're making an abridged series, not an original production. People come to see a comedic reimagining of the canon episodes. So try to keep the jokes in the territory of what you'd do if you were still using episode footage. Don't animate in entirely new settings, scenes, or characters unless they offer a reinterpretation of what was already there.

2. Offer contrast. MLP is already an optimistic, child-friendly series, so making your own videos purely light and silly won't add much to it. Part of what makes MAS such an effective parody is that it can fill in the candy coating with extremely dark subject matter and the involvement of concepts kids don't face, like deep-seated personality flaws or international politics.

3. Be internally consistent. Attention to detail can make the difference between an average series and a great one. Some of my favorite abridged series have made entire story arcs resulting from throwaway jokes early in their run.

Hopefully these guidelines can be of use in figuring out how to avoid the wrath of the more hostile critics.

This is a nice thread. Made me think.

>>29582562

From how you type everyone can tell you're a colossal asshole. Get back to your "great" life.

>I feel bad for you

Do you steal your lines and self image from fucking plays? Or is that tv?

>>29583535
>Oh, no. People refuse to accept my spiteful and destructive opinions as something worth attention. That means it's a fucking hugbox!
No, you fucking retard, all that is asked of you is to have at least a tiny bit of self awareness when you write down your retarded ass opinions trying to force them as some sort of objective truth throwing around autistic phrases like
>You've ruined everything, Greg. Don't you dare to ruin what have left of it! I'm entitled to it!

This kind of obnoxios behavior is the problem. If you actually want to be a respectable part of the conversation, then, please, go ahead and behave like one. Don't start you stupid posts with
>Greg, you're stupid retard who can't write worth shit, please go ahead and read this wall of text I wrote that vaguely describes my feelings, but also fails to provide any sensible solution to the presumed problem I have.

TL;DR Fuck off

>>29587339
That wasn't my post, and I responded to that sentiment in >>29582949 and >>29583107. What is it with you and Greg thinking people are other people?

>>29580177
Honestly I wish he would do this.

>Be Anonymous
>You're hanging out with your best friend and secret crush, Rainbow Dash
>Ever since your family moved into that black family's old house and your dad punished you for getting bad grades by locking you in the backyard with a tent you've been inseparable
>You spend days with her complaining about how bad your parents are and talking about the newest Jokermort comics
>Sometimes she finds cool stuff lying around the house and brings them over to mess around with
>You make sure to always have some sugar cubes and carrots for her
>She doesn't like carrots but she needs the nutrients since you've seen what her dad feeds her
>Usually you cover the carrots with some sugar and she's willing to eat it even though it's kinda weird
>Sometimes she licks the sugar off before she eats it because she says the texture is kinda weird and grainy like how a tv looks on one of those blank channels except for your mouth instead of your eyes which makes her feel weird because she doesn't get to watch tv much so in a strange way it sorta reminds her of her dad, y'know?
>It makes you feel weird
>Tingly weird
>Your dad told you that was Satan fondling your Johnson so it makes you uncomfortable but you don't say anything because you don't want Dash to stop getting the food she needs to live
>Also you don't know what a Johnson is

Should I continue?

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>>29588326
it isnt a RDP thread without greentext involving wanting to fuck MAS characters

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As >>29583107 this epitomizes the difference between the original MAS and the new MAS.

The original MAS stood by itself. I would have loved to read stories about those characters.

The new MAS is a cheap satire of the show in which the characters aren't even real. Obviously, the Luna-wearing-a-mustache-as-a-disguise was an allusion to that the apparitions in FIM S1E1/2 were she, but as an "MAS-canon" character it's, well, not even a real character.

MAS used to stand by itself as a fake-saccharine dark mirror image of FIM with humor derived from its image in this mirror, as in >>29579553. Now it's nothing, just gags poking fun at FIM.

>>29589204
So all of you guys have been bitching about characterization and writing in the MAS world and continually bringing up the latest 4 episodes as an example. Do you have anything other than the two two-parters that show that 'the world is being destroyed!'? Have you recently watched both the negative and regular series all the way through? Are there any other examples you can give not from the most recent few episodes of the negative series?

The only RDP I enjoyed was Nightmare Haunting. I haven't seen the last RDP they made yet though.

I saw bits of MAS but didn't find it very enjoyable, except for "You have acquired the frog"

>>29576917

>>29589806
It began when Greg picked up MAS again after a hiatus of two years with MAS +13 and forgot who Pinkie was; I am far from the only one to notice that Pinkie is not the same character she used to be. That first new-MAS also heralded the first corrosion of the MAS canon when Twilight publically spoke against Celestia, saying, "[Don't do that, because doing that] spreads fear of Celestia, which is exactly what she wants." I noticed this corrosion immediately; Equestria had been an Orwellian-Machiavellian nightmare state in which Celestia, referred to as their glorious god-leader (c.f. MAS +10) has ears everywhere that force a doublespeak under threat of re-education camps (c.f. MAS +6).

By MAS -10, MAS had become a farce in which Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon are, on a visual level, gags with eyepatches and mustaches instead of real characters.

MAS -19/-20 simply completed the transformation of MAS to the antithesis of what it was.

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>>29576917
Colt Quest.

Anthropology

>>29591689
Fucking obliterated.

>>29579553
I enjoy both OG and - MAS but I have to say you really have a point here.

Oh baby.

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>>29593732
Except the original concept for MAS Celestia occurred back when "Tyrant Celestia" was a commonly held headcanon. The actual MLP show has changed so much that some of the characterizations feel out of left field now. Twilight being a drunk, disgruntled student feels like sharp juxtaposition instead of a highlight of Twilight's actual flaws. Pinkie being willfully destructive to prove ideological points now feels odd, as in the show it's more like Pinkie just has a bad sense of humor. Rainbow Dash as the retard with impossible dreams is totally thwarted because she totally achieved those dreams and everyone kind of sucks her clit about it. Rarity being a rude, wannabe, high-society figure is shut down by Rarity actually becoming a high-society figure with three boutiques and close ties to royalty.

As for Celestia's firm grip on the world. That's a season 1-2 thing. Since then, she's lost every fight. She's been defeated by changelings, Discord, her sister, Tirek, a snow storm, and most iterations of danger in the altered timelines where Twilight wasn't there to save her. Characterizing Celestia as a competent ruler at all, never mind a ruthless one, feels now like sharp juxtaposition from reality.

MAS is a parody, is the thing, and it can't make up entirely new plotlines. It has to follow what the show really did. That means that in theory, at some point MAS Dash will be a Wonderbolt somehow, and Twilight will be a princess, and Applejack will be a farmer. For those things to happen at all, it's difficult for the world building to be very tight, because the main characters have to get things by virtue of being main characters. These aren't carefully threaded events with a logical build-up. This is, "Dash is a main character so she becomes a Wonderbolt, but because she's a main character she doesn't have to practice with them or do anything once she is one, or else she couldn't be in new episodes". There's no logic.

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>>29591689
>>29595122
You're complaining that Beezen was this random character that shows up to be lolrandumb, but think further ahead. In season 2, everyone loved Discord. He was amazing. But you KNOW he's coming back. Not only is he coming back, but he's coming back as a useless sidekick to Fluttershy who puts his god-like powers towards complaining about how much respect he isn't getting. He is a supreme example of wasted character potential.

So what did you get in MAS? A mural of Celestia stabbing Discord to death. Discord is dead. What replaced him is a stupid buttmonkey that will show up later to be a useless sidekick to Fluttershy, who will run around and whine that nobody takes him seriously and who will go to parties and cause trouble for attention. Beezen will play DnD with Mac and Spike, and while Beezen may have some actual magical potential, he'll never use it fully because he's a retarded goblin who thinks moving furniture is the pinnacle of magic. And from that ground level of stupid interference, he will achieve exactly the same impact that Discord did after Discord came back.

>>29587052
Gonna agree here. The last few episodes went a little downhill but shit happens when you're a solo content producer. RDP star in yellow was one of my favorites by far and I'm looking forward to more negative MAS in hopes the slump ends

>>29595188
I intentionally did not even mention Beezen; in >>29591689 I went only up to MAS -19/-20 with what happened to Luna.

>>29595122
So that's your reason the negative series became the antithesis of the original MAS? Alright. It doesn't change the fact that MAS has become its antithesis with characters who aren't even real characters.

>>29576917
Pony raising a human. Its my favorite type of fanfic
Where the end. The human has to leave his family. For earth

>>29595371
Just read my little dashie and swap the characters breh

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>>29595356
You are just whining. The thesis of MAS was to make an amusing parody of My Little Pony by adding taxes, bureaucracy, and reason to their colorful gumdrop world.

The negative series retraced season 1 as I learned what I was doing, so I did my best avoid making the same jokes on the second pass. Season -2 is going ahead with the knowledge of where the characters are going to wind up, so it somewhat downplays Celestia's authority because, in the long run, her authority is nothing but hot air in the proper show.

The characters are the same characters, but after season 3 there is going to be a portal to a high school. Twilight will be princess.

I'm going to reconcile as best as I can, but the decision to change the world of MLP to sell toy sets impacts MAS as much as it impacted MLP because one is commentative of the other.

You may be over-analyzing what I'm doing to the point to where you can't really relax and enjoy the cartoon any longer. The bottom line is that I'm still having fun with it, I'm working hard and making improvements, and it really isn't the doom and gloom or sheer betrayal you're trying to paint it as.

>>29595467
Luna is objectively not the same character.

I really wouldn't mind if you had just made a new universe. If you had gradually transitioned to this new universe so that it's impossible to tell who the characters are in the interim, I would mind a lot as that prohibits making sense of anything in the interim, but at least the result would be a new universe. But what you did is gradually transition to a universe that isn't even a universe. Tiara and Silver Spoon are mustache-wearing gags, and it is impossible to say what Luna's new character even is since she is now retarded beyond belief to such an extent that I have never seen anything like it in even the most asinine children's show.

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>>29595558
Luna is the same character. Your prior interactions with her have had her trying to get Celestia to dress as a Banana, trapping Twilight and friends in a book because Celestia did it, and then being an idiot until she was defeated by Twilight because she was trying to thwart whatever Celestia's plan was there and Luna couldn't figure out what the plan was. Luna's whole life just revolves around her sister and she spends a lot of time reacting to or comparing herself to her sister.

If the jokes are a miss for you, that's something else. Making light of the setting itself has gotten harder due to short run times and the way the setting changes in the show proper. I have been wracking my brain for quite a while now on how in the heck MAS Twilight is supposed to function after she ascends, and I can only imagine nepotism is how Dash will be a Wonderbolt. The future of MLP is the future of MAS and this is the drawback of parody.

Still, they're certainly not bloody antithetical to how they started. It's been six years and I've learned a lot since then so what I'm doing can't stay totally static, but there definitely hasn't been a 180 reversal on the writing.

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>>29596085
The only classic-MAS depictions of Luna were in Haunting Nightmare and the allusion to her in Star in Yellow as Silver Crescent.

I am at a loss for words for how you can think this is the same Luna who induced in Twilight mortal terror, let alone a real character.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SejG5wKcevo&t=2m25s (timestamp)

Simply at a loss for words.

>>29596401
Entirely agree. The original MAS was quite enjoyable, but the negative seasons just aren't as good. It doesn't feel like MAS anymore. It feels like a really generic parody rather than a stark contrast of the happy rainbows of the show. Sure, it's still not happy go lucky or anything, but it's pretty far from the MAS we loved. MAS should have just kept its trajectory and continued from where it left off with take same episode length and such. More time between episodes coming out is a small price to pay for the integrity of the series.

The train hasn't derailed completely but there is some points in
>>29591689
>>29579553
but I'm just going to continue watching and hopefully it gets better.
Maybe Greg should watch through the original MAS series to refresh the characters?

>>29596959
the same*

>>29596085
When nearly everyone disagrees with you, perhaps you may need to rethink your viewpoint.
>>29596970
As this guy says, watch the original series and compare the characters and their interactions. It's definitely not the same. It just feels wrong now.

Also, unrelated, but when are you found to do the voice porn that your fans so desperately crave?

>>29596994
>when are you found to do the voice porn that your fans so desperately crave?
Well I wouldn't want to do it wrong and ruin it for you multiple guys. Especially not when everyone agrees that I've managed to drastically alter the canon personality of a character who appeared three times in total, once as a narrator, once as a joke on the US political system, and once as a transformed version of herself.

And their interactions aren't the same, anon. They're crammed down into five minutes.

>>29580177

I think this post is a pretty accurate summary of what that experience would be like.

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>>29576917
Rainbow Dash Seduces a Watermelon.

>>29576917
Do the great alicorn hunt!
http://archiveofourown.org/works/5445755/chapters/12586163

>>29597154
Just do the porn faggot.

>>29597154
I enjoyed the early negative season, but Luna specifically was pretty meh.

>>29597154
In "Alicorn Day," you crammed Twilight's entire coronation down to two minutes, and the universe and interactions were still the same. Those mere two minutes would have made a fine MAS S3E13 satire from which to continue into S4.

Even if cramming an episode down to five minutes were a valid excuse, it wouldn't be.

hi

am new to 4chan

The first season has a better narrative structure. The negative seasons are funnier.

>>29597323
Original idea where the entire plot is unique, not based on an arc intended for a twenty minute show.

The format really does make a difference to the writing, and so does the skill going into the animation. Can't draw much or animate well? Then you'll be relying on a lot of static interactions, for example. At any rate, it doesn't matter how many anons agree the character interactions have changed or how many anons clone their MAC addresses to add IP counts to what is probably the busiest RDP/MAS thread I've seen in a while.

The fact that the characters are interacting differently than when I was doing ten to fifteen minute videos with still frames is obvious. RDP also runs a solid twenty minutes at least. Stuff like Budget Impasse and Alicorn Day are original scripts mocking a premise of the show so there was total freedom there. Negative MAS usually winds up losing its first minute establishing the plot - don't get me wrong, I dislike this and try to be as succinct as possible. The remaining four minutes, which is only four pages of script, is them resolving the conflict while also poking fun at it. There's less time for bickering, less time to chew the fat, the script generally has to just move.

Like I said earlier, there's pros and cons. Animating MAS is different than chopping up the still frames. The one I'm working on now is looking pretty fluid and has some good gags I'm happy with, but imagine this: I've got a "ticking clock" episode where Twilight spends the entire day, sunrise to sunset, unable to write a friendship report. To mock it, I have to cram an entire day of failure into a fourth of the time.

I don't start that process by writing out a bunch of lore for Celestia's reign. I start by writing the essentials, knowing the jokes I really want to tell, and then I go back and I trim what I've written.

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>>29579066
I want LittlePip to make me her little bitch

>>29597412
>>29597418
Go home newbie fag.

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This thread.

It's not what I expected.

I feel sorry for Greg being insulted for his bad work.

>>29597836
Don't worry about it. I get e-mails. The fact that I successfully named the first person to voice complaints should be a tip off that I'm not a stranger to this stuff.

>>29597876
Seriously do the porn so I can fap to it.

>>29596959
what you're actually complaining about is that
there isn't a happy go lucky show to parody anymore

MAS was never good (sorry Greg) you were just more obsessed with this shit back in the day

>>29596401
His right of course, the headcanons the MAS fandom came up with exceeded anything on either the show or the parody, Pinkie is just the anarchist from those deadpool comics etc. it's all stuff that was being tossed around in the early threads back when grimderp equestria was still a funny idea

as soon as the show pretended to have serious plot the humor there vaporized, Tirek is essentially the hard cutoff point for trying to make that joke work

you can demand Greg come up with original stuff to entertain you but saying his lost his touch to the characters who were one note reversals to something that doesn't exist anymore just comes off as absurd

>>29597876
your Mechawarriors thing was great

having childish characters dick around ranting about politics seems to be where it's at for you

Oh wow this thread kicked off.
To chime in with my unimportant two cents, I get that MAS as a parody of the show has to change as the show changes, so I don't mind the characters adjusting (although Luna really did feel a bit too dumb with the sombrero/moustache gag to my tastes, and Booger came out of a left field) and I like that due to not relying on the show animation MAS can take the episode from a completely different angle, but I miss the era of 10+ minute long MAS episodes full of banter and bickering goodness. Most people cite the 6-12 as the best, but for me it was the stillframe parts from Pinkie Keen to the Owl episode. I found the stillframes to actually work better because they didn't rely on awkward lipsync and choppy animation while the length still allowed for the character interaction which was the thing that made me most excited about MAS in the first place.
But so far I'm looking forward to S2. S-2? I still have a good giggle and the Toonboom animation looks great. The background music not just being a random tune makes a big difference, too.

>>29598131
And I forgot to mention that I really enjoyed the outtakes or extra scenes in the credits. Please do more of those.

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>>29597836
None of us are insulting him, though he understandably takes insult at criticism.

>>29597876
I don't think I've ever sent you an email, but you did identify me.

>>29597586
Why would you accuse your critics of samefagging? This is discussion and criticism, not a raid.

>I don't start that process by writing out a bunch of lore for Celestia's reign. I start by writing the essentials, knowing the jokes I really want to tell, and then I go back and I trim what I've written.

Let's talk about your approach because that's interesting.

Joke, Type I:
>A one-liner intended to make the viewer laugh.
Somehow, I doubt that in the original MAS you even began by knowing the jokes you want to tell save for one or two; you certainly didn't do this for Star in Yellow. Instead, your natural wit, nuance, and intelligence permeated the dialogue in the natural evolution of the story; the joke, in a sense, was what Twilight referred to as the "farcical tragedy" of the whole thing (c.f. MAS +5). Building a script around telling jokes you have in mind seems a natural way to cobble together garbage.

(continued)

>>29598196
(continued)

Joke, Type II:
>A theme that characterizes a tangential but inextricable aspect of the dialogue and characters in a single episode, and then is discarded save for perhaps a reference.
An example is the "Lesbian Carwash" joke. These are closer to what I think scripts should be built around, but are still generally poor because they focus on integrating relatively isolated aspects. Developing characters around these episode-to-episode cobbles together a desultory parody. "Lesbian Carwash" is the only joke of this type that you utilized in the original MAS, and you pulled it off (though I didn't find it funny in itself; it just fit the characters and dialogue in the natural progression of wit). The whole thing was:

Joke, Type III:
>An entire world.
This includes characters taken as a whole and the way they all fit together to form the world that forms themselves. Here, an entire character is a joke, entire episodes are jokes, and the events fit together to shape and reveal a bigger joke, the "farcical tragedy." Jokes of type-I and type-II occur naturally in dialogue and development but are not the focus; they are if anything just the tip of the iceberg.

You are a natural world-builder. You couldn't help it. While your MAS +1 was a rough start, you quickly developed the type III joke and distributed it over the characters. This single type III joke both defined Mentally Advanced and justified its namesake.

The whole problem is that you no longer have a type III joke, and the problem may be your approach.

>>29595188
Fuck the one cunt in this thread pretending to be multiple people. I've never heard of Beezen but using him instead of Discord is the BEST IDEA I HAVE EVER SEEN.

And you explained your logic in the video's ending thingy, for christ's sake! What kind of dumbass didn't read that and/or couldn't understand it?

The only suggestion I have is to make what you're doing with Luna more obvious so these fucks can do it.

Also... you're writing your own scripts and drawing your own art, aren't you? If you wanted... wouldn't you be able to write your own arcs and stories?

>>29598206
Let the context/etc build through dialogue and let the humor flow rather than simply being a tickbox to check before moving onto the next.

>>29598196
>None of us are insulting him, though he understandably takes insult at criticism.

You started off bitching about how the show's ruined now and how "At the end of the day, Greg has to live with himself", desperately trying to show off your tiny e-peen. It took prompting for you to actually get out anything approaching valid points or arguments. Get off your fucking high horse, you are not a classy connosieur critiquing a piece of art he spent $50 for in his best CynicalBrit impression, you are a 4chan user asking a parody writer to write his parody the way you wish it was written.

If you want him to think highly of you, act reasonably and respectably and get off your high horse. Stop acting like the kind of faggot that would samefag over and over and over again to try and give his words more "Impact".

>>29598196
But I'll give you credit where credit is due, you've clearly read up on this sort of thing. Good on you for explaining the three types of jokes and how they relate to the show.

Now, if only you could have done that at the start, instead of crying "Ruined 4ever!!!" until Greg lead you to the big boy's table by the fucking hand.

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>>29598356
Yes.

>>29598334
Apparently, I do not see it; who's the samefag?

>>29598369
You think I am? You think that's I? I would never say the things that anon said. What is it with people in this thread thinking people are other people?

>>29598413
I am glad you appreciate that post but am indignant you would conflate me with that other anon.

>>29598413
Also, I extemporized that classification of jokes in analyzing MAS and script approach. But I'm glad you like them.

>>29598196
Anon, listen to yourself. You claim you haven't been insulting Greg, but you spend half your time saying he's too immature to take criticism and that he wants his ego stroked by people too stupid to understand that his work is no longer any good. You clearly have some genuine critiques for the guy, and he might be thanking you for your input right now if you hadn't been determined to present yourself in such an unforgiving, self-important, and often hypocritical manner.

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>>29598654
Again, I have never insulted Greg. I began by expressing apprehension about Greg writing a new RDP and excoriated the negative series (not Greg) with, yes, an emotional element because of how much the original MAS/RDP meant to me. When people asked me to explain, I did, contrasting the original MAS/RDP with Greg's recent work using specific examples and analysis with specific citations to episodes, implying and then clarifying constructive criticism. My latest post analyzed the three types of jokes germane the series, giving what I hope is extremely constructive criticism.

Let's be perfectly clear. The following posts are mine.
>>29578796 (ok, that single post could be interpreted as a personal insult, but the intent was genuine bewilderment)
>>29578810
>>29578920
>>29578955
>>29579128
>>29579553
>>29582536
>>29582949
>>29583107
>>29584478
>>29589204
>>29591689
>>29595558
>>29596401
>>29598196
>>29598206
>>29598455
>>29598610

>>29598921
Regardless of what you've said to him directly, you claimed that "none of us", i.e. none of his critics, have been insulting him, which definitely isn't true in this thread alone, much less in general.

>>29599110
No, I said none of us are insulting him. It has been over two days since anyone insulted him. As far as I can tell, it was just a few posts by that one guy two days ago, and he left. One anon. Two days ago.

It's like that one anon in this thread two days ago who told me to kill myself because he didn't like my opinion. Why are you making anything of one anon from Tuesday?

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>>29599110
Albeit, Greg has a face, so it's worse. But anonymity makes a few people act in disgusting ways. It was one anon two days ago.

I'm a bit upset at the derail, and now every response to >>29598196 is a false accusation.

But can we move on? These were the actual posts:
>>29598196
>>29598206
>>29598356 (not mine)
>>29598413 (half of this)
>>29598610

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>>29595467
Idunno Greg, I personally liked MAS up until episode -17, just before you tried to fit the cannon story too much into your own world.

During the original run of MAS you did a pretty good job stablishing the mythos for the parody universe, close to the show, but not quite. The figures of authority feel strong, misterious and frightening.
Doing stuff like downplaying Celestia at this point would just feel like a betrial to those mythos, specially when Celestia's semingly absolute power was such an important part of Twilight's character development.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that fitting your writting around small details of the show at this point does not makes for a consistent narrative within the parody.
I'll say you stick with the mythos you have created and write the episodes based on the original premise but following the current state of your characters, and yes, you can still critizice the show, even if only as in a "this is how it should happen" kind of way. If you are annoyed by a decision in the show, don't copy it.

If you don't feel like Dash should get into de Wonderbolts, then don't do it (If the cannon decision of making her a member makes the whole stablishment look stupid and lax, then the same thing will happen with your parody, and in this case, it will only weaken the original premise of "ponies in a realistic world". If you feel like the wonderbolts are a military institution, then make them act like one, and make sure it doesn't feels like a childlike happy place where you can get in if you try hard).

I mean for fuck sake, you turned Sweetiebelle into a Yogsothonian agent beacause of reasons and it works just fine, it's not like you are a stranger to messing with the cannon.

between RDP and the first MAS run you've created a world with rules and themes, do not contradict yourself by mimicking the show too closely. MAS can no longer aford it.

>>29600405
This has a fair point, characters aren't strictly canon and so shouldn't follow canon precisely or at all in certain places.

>>29599514
Wow, you've really taken the fall for that jackass anon at the start of the thread. For that you have my sympathy. But if you arent him then you're the guy that feels Greg isn't even reading the criticisms of his work here >>29582536 which I have to disagree with. Gregs responses have been decent considering the wave of angry anons that hit him.

>>29600651
Yes, that post was mine, and I shouldn't have said that. I said that because he was replying to my posts about the script with posts about animation.

>>29577080
I want to create a dumbler account and write a massive block of text which boils down to I am offended because >implyings name is really >rape and that triggers me.

>>29601685
would subscribe, upvote and reblog 2bh

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>>29601696
I'd do it for my waifu. she hasn't had a good meal in ages

>>29598921
Half of the stuff you wrote is a passive-agressive shittery.

You said he ruined his(HIS) own show and that he shouldn't write new episodes because it somehow will ruin it even more (the most autistic shit I've ever heard). You called his scripts garbage, you, overall, behaved like an obnoxious, self-righteous cretin with absolute lack of self-awareness throught the thread, hell you were the one who derailed the thread from its original topic to begin with with.

The fact that you don't understand how your behavior isn't acceptable is honestly perplexing. Be honest, are you actually truly clinically on the scale?

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>>29601715
That's not how threads work; the thread had been derailed ever since >>29577174 >>29577258 began talking about MAS and Greg showed up in >>29577611.

I sincerely regret the last sentence of >>29582536; that was the only time my attention moved from MAS/RDP to Greg. I was frustrated because I was talking about characters (>>29579553) and he replied by saying his animation is improving (>>29582191). I sincerely regret responding with that he didn't read what I said.

Other than that one post, every post has been directly about MAS. I have categorically not been passive-aggressive about anything. Furthermore, I think very highly of Greg; in >>29598196 I say, "[his] natural wit, nuance, and intelligence permeated the dialogue." The first paragraph of >>29598921 is exactly what happened.

>>29601715
As >>29601952, please don't accuse people of being passive-aggressive when they're sincere and straightforward. It's incredibly insulting.

>>29602104
It comes off as passive-aggressive no matter what your intentions were, do you not understand how written communication functions?

So is Greg gonna do the porn or should i go beat off to other shit

>>29602140
Maybe I don't, but being sincere and straightforward is one of my personality traits; I am straightforward almost to a fault.

Please stop aspersing my posts' content with stylistic attacks and personal insults.

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What have I done?

>>29603370
I had already filtered you because you're a useless namefag, but I viewed this post. There is no reason to disparage or abandon this thread just because have different opinions from your own.

>>29604121

>You filtered me because I'm a useless namefag

Okay. I'm tired of how it became. I've have a simple question to this community, but it turned into a controversial argument of how awful MAS has become recently. Personally I don't care for how the series is, for I just enjoy it for entertainment. That's what every abridged series is about, enjoying for fun. If you can't handle my useless fagness, goodbye cunt. You are worse than the trollers themselves.

>>29604282
Nobody is trolling, and you do not speak for MAS fans. You are just some guy like any of the rest of us.

>>29604316
So what if I am just a normal guy? Hey, I made this to see what they would like to see as the next RDP, I didn't create it for MAS controversy bullshit. I'm not speaking for the fans, I'm speaking for myself and I can't believe you are shitting me for my actions.

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>>29604411
What's that? The internet acts differently of what OP expected?
Oh the humanity!!
We should all be ashamed

Wonder what Greg's take on Lesson Zero is gonna be like.

everyone in this thread has aids

>>29605727
But I'm not black or gay anon, how did

Lol it's unbury Greg's body. :D

>>29602140
The second line of >>29602228 was poor; you were no longer directly attacking me. I was just still reeling from your calling me a "passive-aggressive autistic cretin" among so much else.

No-one has ever called me passive-aggressive, and that's one of the worst insults you could have slung. I doubt almost anyone but you think it seems passive-aggressive.

You criticized my use of the word "garbage." Yes, it's a harsh word; I use it in this context to refer to that which is so insipid I cannot watch it.

Perhaps you also didn't like my calling some of Greg's character's retards. I use this word in a descriptive sense, not an insulting sense. In >>29583107 I say Greg's Rainbow Dash is retarded and say it's great.

All of these other anons critiquing the characterization, the writing, the universe but still enjoying it are where I was two years ago. Take those anons and have Greg continue on his trajectory for another two years and they may be just as censorious.

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>>29598921
You either have too much time or too much chromosomes