Compare/contrast Friendship is Witchcraft and the Mentally Advanced Series. What sets them apart from each other?
FiW has a higher production quality and better music, but the jokes are dumber. MAS characters actually have depth and the jokes have layers. All in all, they're both entertaining, but MAS isn't for everyone and FiW feels shallow after a while.
One relies on lots and lots of rapid-fire dialogue, the other on absurd situations.
Almost forgot, saved this for future generations:
FiW was good for the first few episodes, then it just started to focus too much on dark and edge. Incest being forced into your face for a whole 20 minutes isn't funny, it's redundant.
MAS got better after the first few episodes, and then went into a sharp decline in humor for the more recent ones.
FIW sucks, and MAS is good
FIW is a parody series, MAS is an abridged series.
FIW's characters are all "LOL XD SO RANDUMB" shit that brony faggots like, while MAS characters are at least somewhat based on the show.
Some many mad MAS fans in here...
I enjoy both series. FiW is a more conventional send up of the show, relying on either extreme accentuation of one of a given character's canon traits (e.g., Rainbow Dash) or ironically turning a character on its head (e.g., Fluttershy). The music is competent in both composition and execution from a strictly musical as well as comedic standpoint, akin to Weird Al in that respect. Sherclop has shown an admirable amount of creativity within the confines of using (occasionally augmented) footage from the show, building elaborate subplots and rich subtexts with only dialog and clever editing to pull off the trick.
MAS is another animal playing a different game entirely. It's a more ambitious series, and accordingly takes itself and its audience more seriously. Not content to be a mere send up in the vein of FiW, MAS explores the (il)logic of the show through compelling reimaginings of the characters. Greg is a smart guy and uses the series as a platform to work in not just jokes, but to use comedy as a vehicle for addressing relevant social and philosophical issues, at least as much as you can expect from a pony parody. Musically, I actually prefer the quirky, weird songs and background music in MAS over the polished songs of FiW. MAS is more likely to go unappreciated or fly over people's heads, but it's a more rewarding series for those that can keep up.
tl;dr FiW is to Family Guy what MAS is to South Park
Not sure why, but as much as I love both of them, Mentally Advance Series wins by like a small percentage.
hope you don't mind, but what you said was so deep I decided to keep it forever..
The whole "quirky weird" quality in MAS's music is probably why there's very few fan remixes of those compared to FiW's
But to be fair, do we really need as many remixes of Sinking Ships or Workin' on My Twerkin' as we have of Gypsy Bard or Pinkie's Brew? I'm actually glad there isn't.
I like FIW more, but I do like the mentally advanced series, or at least some of the aspects because I lost interest before watching all the episodes.
Also the songs of FIW: it'll be okay, sister applejack are very good.
The difference is in the fans.
MAS fans constantly talk shit about FiW, mad because the guy behind FiW was the guy they kicked off the MAS team, yet he has more fans.
FiW fans appreciate humor in general.
>MAS fans constantly talk shit about FiW, mad because the guy behind FiW was the guy they kicked off the MAS team, yet he has more fans.
Wot. I know there's a lot of weird drama, but wot.
>The difference is in the fans.
Agree with this though, MASfags shittalk FiW constantly.
>FIW's characters are all "LOL XD SO RANDUMB"
>MAS characters are at least somewhat based on the show
You seem to have gotten it the wrong way around there sir
Also, everyone who is a fan of MAS seems to always complain about how much FiW sucks, but I never see it the other way around much
Sees Celestia as a mentor (even if it's obsessive and unwanted), possesses leadership skills (even if it's mostly through other characters being scared of her)
Brash and self confident, kinda dumb (taken to full retard level)
Chatty and happy-go-lucky
Works with animals I guess?
Hard working manual labor farmer Southerner (turned into belligerent redneck caricature)
i never watched any of MAS beyond episode 1 because i thought it was awful... but fiw has also put out some shit episodes
*cough* Snowblind *cough*and reading this thread makes me want to give mas another go
also i feel Fiw is going along the lines of Phineas and Ferb--very formulaic (not as much as Phineas and ferb but still very), and the popularity of the first song pushed a lot of attention and expectation in future music/songs. not necessarily good
MAS episode 1 wasn't very good because the characters were still inchoate. After the first couple episodes, the characters became consistent and the series became very clever up until episode 12, at which point Greg stopped making them.
A couple months ago, Greg began making new episodes of MAS, and the reboot has been significantly less witty than the original MAS series, though still largely enjoyable. The most recent MAS had some nice subtle character development, though to appreciate that one would have had to watch all the other episodes with care.
To me the difference is effort. One just puts in a lot more effort than the other. Rainbow Dash Presents was OK with its low quality and bad voice acting because it was spoofing the absurd in the first place. The mentally advanced series however is very poor for an abridged series. I don't like it for the same reason I didn't like ultra fast ponies. There's just not a lot of effort put into the production.
True, the production is minimal, but for many episodes the script is very clever.
As other anons said, episode 1 is poor and the reboot (episodes 13 onward) is of lower quality, but episodes 2-12 are very clever. The characters are intricate in subtle ways and their dynamic and wit well-crafted.
The only 'depth' FiW has are the bits about Pinkie's parents and anything Sweetie Bot.
As for cotinuity, the only examples of that I noticed are those obnoxious wah wah trumpets, the thing with the portals, the annoying eye candy 'joke' and Twilight becoming Princess of the night.
I always thought she is a slut because she couldn't get sexually satisfied because stallion endurance was shite. She also shows a little bit of neurotic behavior, which doctors in the victorian era cured with a good old fashioned fingering.
For those who can't see any depth in MAS, if you're interested in understanding some of what MAS-fans see in it, here is a thread in which Petirep breaks down MAS's Twilight in some detail. The depth in MAS can be subtle to many due to being masked by the characters' callous repartee, but it is salient beneath or through it, and this dynamic is precisely what many MAS fans enjoy.
I tried reading that. I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt.
The very post that you linked to reads like a fanfic that's edgier and more tryhard than 60% of the entire Conversion Bureau collection.
I didn't say the rest wasn't good and I like the other stuff too but for some reason I just find Hootaloo absolutely hilarious.
That being said, the dog and pony show one just might be my favorite MAS episode.
I don't know what you're trying to say, but I appreciate that you gave it an attempt.
The MAS/RDP world is, beneath the bitter humor, a fairly dark one ruled by a Machiavellian God-Leader. It's one reason all of the characters are so bitter. They often employ Orwellian double-speak. It's horribly unfair to dismiss it as edgy, which refers to being edgy for the sake of being edgy. You may as well dismiss 1984 as edgy.
Hah, again, we have opposite tastes on MAS. That is probably my least favorite MAS episode.
But, the different types of humor and character/world-dynamics that Greg employs to appeal to different people and audience-demographics, all woven tightly together in script in such a way that different people can get very different things out of it, is one of the more impressive aspects of MAS/RDP, and something that makes it all the better.
Mentally Advanced series is based more on dialogue jokes than the actual visual jokes.
I often just listen to the audio from Mentally Advanced Series and take it as an audio show really, it doesn't remove from the enjoyment at all. Pinkie Pie in mentally advanced series is funny as all hell and the characters have actual depth and original personalities
Friendship is Witchcraft is based mostly on anti-humor where you laugh in a way as "Oh my god I can't believe they just joked about that" and their show has more bland explained jokes.
>"Whoa whats that?!"
>"Thats a treet"
Personally I like them both for different reasons
Holy shit this is the worst insult I have ever heard in my life.
It's all fun and games until you
live with someone who does
I'm sorry anon. I'll light a candle for you when you eventually kill yourself
That's all well and good, Anon. But it is only...
I actually like Silver Spoon Escapes from Camp Energy funnier than anything else they have ever made
>finding flaws with this perfect specimen
Greg for president, 2016
And then someone came in and pointed out how Twi in MAS is actually a dhit character with no agency who just kinda ponders what is wrong with her but never applies it in an interesting way
>Friendship is Witchcraft has far greater continuity and depth.
To both MAS and FiW fans:
Here is a third series that I think is rather under-appreciated, and as different from MAS and FiW as they are from each other.
Don't let the name of the series fool you; the creator gave it that name years ago before the term acquired its embarrassment.
No, it's just a practice in diversions and posing questions that aren't going to be answered.
And are not at all profound if left unawanswered.
There's no mystery to MAS twilight so that allure is out, and depth is defined by having complex emotions and motivations.
Her emotions aren't terribly complex and she has no real motivation
Also, I would argue that she does have complex emotions and motivations. She certainly isn't predictable, but at the same time is far from arbitrary. This entails complexity.
You already engaged Petirep in this exact conversation. You're insufferable, and are just looking for an argument.
I'm not Petirep, but I was in that thread.
I'm going to copypaste what he wrote:
"I see what you're saying, but I think you're missing some of her more subtle elements. The times she's shown actual wit in a task she had no real need to otherwise, and her desire to take command. These are other factors of her character.
It is possible we have different qualifications of what makes a character complex i guess. I tend to view any character with realistic responses and multiple facets to their personality and motivation as complex. It also helps when elements of the character are left vague and unexplored as well.
In my opinion, Twilgiht meets these qualifications. I always enjoy her character being explored."
Now, a nice example of her character being explored and developed is the most recent episode in which, for the first time, she is almost nice to Fluttershy. The way in which that developed was very interesting.
And in your response to Petirep in that discussion, you actually defended FiW's Rarity as an example of a character with depth! It was frankly completely absurd.
You and I live in completely different worlds, and you have already demonstrated that no discussion on the matter will go anywhere.
Then my apologies; you sounded just like the guy in that thread. I'm still skeptical; you used the exact same phrases, but if you're not he, then I still refer you to that thread and it's exhaustive discussion on the matter of MAS Twilight's character depth.
>Wot. I know there's a lot of weird drama, but wot.
they were collaborating and one of the MAS guys (don't remember which one) posted a comment about how women aren't funny or their most valuable asset is their body something like that
jenny from sherclop got very buttmad and forbid griffin from ever associating with those misogynists again
and that's the story
But Celestia hasn't become less cruel. Just more twisted.
But really, if that's really all you got out of MAS's Twilight, then let's just respect that we fundamentally have perspectives so incommensurable that we may as well be watching different series, and move on.
>The only 'depth' FiW has are the bits about Pinkie's parents and anything Sweetie Bot.
you have to give them one thing however: a whole bunch of shit they did in FiW later showed up on the actual show
gypsy pinkie pie
twilight becoming a princess
there were a bunch more I forget
>while FiW has dumber jokes
FiW mocks the actual show, and entertainment aimed at girls in general.
it's why they kept hitting on things that later showed up in the show I think. they have a lot of experience with the genre.
jenny has been following mlp since gen 1. and her and griffin both watch the "teen wolf" kind of programming and enjoy it
that said one thing I don't like about FiW and sherclop in general is how they shit on established fanon. lyra's interest in humans for example. they're arrogant and condescending to others creations' when they're doing the same thing.
see jenny's kimmy sparkle reviews. she's pretty cruelly mocking other reviewers. and her collab with that other girl reviewer only highlights it. comes off as charity. very gross
sherclop are arrogant hypocrites.
MAS is more doing its own thing, commenting on social phenomena not even related to mlp