The First Order's walker from SW8: The Last Jedi The AT-M6

>>15805154
I CLAPPED

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The First Order's Star Destroyer Dreadnought, probably Snoke's personal SD

That's a big gun

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over 25 thousand feet long..... is that bigger than the Super Star Destroyer from the original trilogy?

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>>15805165
>>15805167
>>15805154

I RECOGNIZED THESE THINGS

>>15805154

>Front arms like a ape

IT BROKE NEW GROUND!!!

I honestly can't fathom why anyone would still get excited for new Star Wars things, especially when its clear that it'll all just be slightly rehashed shit from the OT

>>15805167

Pizza the Hut's flagship eh?

>>15805165

Is that a giant swiveling benis cannon?

>>15805154
They're extra armor + laser cutters to stop the tow cable from working.

Kill me

>>15805165
Gun? Or lightsaber?

>>15805167
It's actually shorter. The Executor is 19km long, while this new one is 7.

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>>15805154

>>15805154
>>15805165
Is there still anyone out there who thinks EP VIII won't be a retread of Empire Strikes Back?

>>15805167

Executor was 19,000 meters (62,335 feet), so 25,000 feet isn't even at the halfway mark in a dick measuring contest between those two.

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>>15805165
>>15805167
Eh, the Eclipse Super Star Destroyer did it better.

>>15805314
it's a phallus

>>15805362
I don't even care for the Eclipse and I agree with you. That dreadnought just looks like a flat pizza-wedge with an underslung cannon that might as well be called "the Overcompensator".

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>>15805362
Superior Star Destroyer incoming.

>>15805395
Personally I think the overcompensator is second in ridiculousness to the absurdly wide bridge and laughably thing main body. The thing looks like someone took a regular star destroyer and then ran a cartoon steamroller over it.

>>15805314
>Snoke's lightsaber is huge and mounted on the bottom of his ship

That's actually a cool idea, he could slice through Resistance capital ships like he was in a lightsaber battle with them.

>>15805505
>A literal dickwaving contest.

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>JUST RECREATE THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY
>BUT CHANGE A FEW THINGS SO THE TEACHER DOESN'T REALIZE WE COPIED

Why are people going to see these movies when they've seen them already?

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>>15805570
But they have new ships

>>15805570
Don't forget how the main baddy is literally Goldmember.

>>15805505
>That's actually a cool idea, he could slice through Resistance capital ships like he was in a lightsaber battle with them

Yeah about that the Lego SW show already did it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTgB3XtOUb0

>>15805344
kammel nut munky!

So they ARE rehashing empire, why am I not Surprised.

>>15805664
I don't know why You are not Surprised. Why are You not Surprised?

>>15805154
Head looks neat, but I'm not a fan of the gorilla knuckle look of the front feet.

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>>15805570
because when SW actually tries to not recreate the original trilogy, fans act like it's some sort of crime against humanity.

>>15805641
That's fucking hilarious.

>>15805675
what if they didn't recreate the original trilogy, AND didn't make a heap of dog shit?

>>15805679
thanks for proving my point.

i swear people act like SW (the original trilogy) is some sort of pinnacle of storytelling.

>>15805675
I'd rather they try something different and fail than rely on Nostalgia to carry the films like they're doing now.

>>15805675
I liked the art direction of the prequels.
I didn't like the writing and dialogue.
>>15805687
No one outside of some especially deluded fanboys pretends Star Wars is some pinnacle of storytelling, but the OT was pretty competently written, with characters that grew as the story went on, and with dialogue that wasn't exquisitely cringe-inducing.

>>15805687
>X is shit
>omg you think Y is great
lolwat

>>15805669
It's a sabertooth tiger. Those front legs have laser claws to break through energy shields.

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>>15805186
>>15805344
Now I'm gonna blow your mind.

>>15805729
>>15805745
Look at where the pistons are connected. The "paw" can't move forward. It's just an awkwardly designed hoof.

>>15805729
>>15805745
They way the "laser claws" are designed makes it look more gorilla that giant cat.

>>15805344
What I was thinking.

That goddamn thing is gonna stand up and throw shit.

>>15805165
God why don't they just take away those stupid bridges, I fucking hate the weird way they always look on SW ships

>>15805154
>wtf is going on with those front legs?
Looks like the paw is there to facilitate moving the front right down for targeting with that big back cannon.

>>15805353
It certainly looks like it's going to be a much bigger retread than it should be, but I can't imagine that it will be less original than The Force Awakens. It is going to bring somethign new to the table, surely, but when promoting the movie they'll only show the nostalgia stuff.

>>15805641
Thats fucking amazing

>>15805772
Or climb over an obstacle, or push over a building or something.

Makes me think of the Clone Wars era walkers climbing up cliffs.

>>15805615
???

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>>15805154
>>15805165
>>15805167
>Nu Star Wars keeps proving EU even had better designs for its Stormtroopers, Ties/Wings, and capital ships
Thanks Disney.

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>>15805818
I almost forgot at-te could climb up cliffs. It's so goofy looking.

>>15805713
The only really cringe inducing dialogue from the PT that really stood out was all of Jar-Jar's lines in Episode 1 and the very forced uninspired and insipidly bland romantic exchanges Hayden and Portman had to do in Episode II. Oh and I guess some of Portman's lines in Episode III.

Still, PT hate is hugely overblown and largely inflated by RLM/Stoklasa. The OT has some pretty bad lines itself, trips over its own plot holes at times, and ad libs certain story points and characterizations in each film that somehow just barely come together in a way that isn't offensive.

The PT at least had more effort and tried to stand away and not be the same as the OT. The Sequels are doing nothing of the sort simply to milk the cashcow till the milk runs dry.

>>15805662
underrated

so this Super Overlord Snuka or whoever
he's really an evil Yoda, right?

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>>15805925

What is George thinking right now?

>>15806137

"Jeeves, please fill up the bathtub with money again, I feel up for a post-supper money-bath."

You think Lucas gives a fuck what they're doing? He's rich, bitch.

>>15806123
See
>>15806128
>normal length lego legs
Just an old dude.

>>15805165
A GIANT SLICE OF PIZZA FLYING THROUGH SPACE

>>15806128
I thought Mocap Gollum Guy said he's huge looking or some shit that's just some asshole

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>>15806144
>Just an old dude
Not JUST an old dude, a fabulous old dude!

>>15806151
His hologram was huge in the first movie. That's what he was talking about.

>>15805199
Kek

>>15806325
wait that's it
fuck this company

>>15806339
I mean, if these action figures are to scale, he's at least taller than Kylo and his own guards

>>15806322
I guess unlike the previous Emperor he wanted to wear something that didn't make him look like an evil wizard. Still got a bad case of monster-face, though.

>>15806137
Hes thinking about all the praise hes gonna get when the contrarians start praising the Prequel Trilogy after all the Disney crap
Hell its already happening ITT

>>15806344
looking like a gay wizard isn't much of an improvement

>>15806344
>he wanted to wear something that didn't make him look like an evil wizard.
Proving once and for all that he isn't a Sith

>>15806349
Sadly, ol' Jorge might have been the key to all this, after all. He's a very creative man with far-out ideas, but he has no filter and no real directing talent. If he just collaborated more, wasn't so autistic about creative criticism, and generally not worked with yes-men he probably could have made something else remembered fondly before stepping down.

>>15805154
I KNOW WHAT THAT IIIIIIIIS!

>>15806102
People hated the prequels before RLM, you know.

>>15805154
>>15805165
>>15805167
IT BROKE NEW GROUND

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

How can anyone defend this?

RLM fans are fucking obnoxious. Can't you criticise something without parroting a video like that makes you somehow special for pointing it out?

>>15806435
Okay. There's literally no innovation in the Disney Star Wars.

>>15806437
See? It wasn't that hard. Now do that next time instead of being one of five other guys to quote a video.

All of the new designs are really boring, they look worse than the originals on top of having zero identity of their own.

>>15806440
I love Five Guys.

>>15806440
They look like they're throwing out the established cosmology of the Force (no "Light Side", just the healthy, balanced force of life and the unbalanced cancer born of negative emotions called the Dark Side) in favor of "dude balance lmao" and patting themselves on the back for how clever they are. It's a small thing but it still grinds my gears.

>>15805154
>>15805165
>>15805167
>more fucking rehashed designs

>>15805165
>Star Destroyer
I'M GONNA CUM

>>15805194
And I honestly can't fathom why people like you even bother waking up every day. If you really just want to hate and dislike everything every day then why don't you just KYS already and be done with it?

>>15805165
It's happy to meet anyone, it seems.

>>15806565
>YOU DON'T LIKE STAR WARS?!!!! DIIIIIIIIE!

>>15805165

This isn't just peak I CLAPPED, it's also just fucking ugly.

>>15806146

I can't unsee it now.

>>15806349
People have defended the prequel trilogy for a long time.

Its overarching plot and a lot of designs were better than the original.

>Those design

I don't know what was disney thinking.
But if they are not going to try to do something original they might as well keep everything from the original Trilogy and still have the Empire around instead of this nonsensical "First Order" .

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>>15805167

inb4 the bridge section can detach and fold into a normal Star Destroyer

>>15806958
We startrek now?

>>15806900
sometimes /co/ can be pretty good

>>15805505
RAISER SUOOORDOOO

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>>15805154
I bet that's some fucking one trick pony gimmick that will be useful in one specific situation(which will incidentally occur in the movie) but still be foiled by our brave MCs.

>>15805165
like this piece of shit. It's such a lackluster and lazy design, compare that to the KOTOR Interdictor, sure it draws inspiration too, but at least it doesn't look like a slice of grey pizza.

>>15805314
RAISER SWOOOOOOOOOOOOOORD!

>>15806137

"When's dinner?"
"Does this thing come in flannel?"

>>15805973
Looks like a cockroach

>>15806146
HAH

>>15806900
11/10

>>15805165
looks like an eclipse

>>15805586
considering how TFA was, no they didn't even have that

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>>15806900
Beautiful.

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>>15807357
For another part, The Ravager is just as lazy of a design, though slightly less silly, as the pizza.
Hammerhead was the best anyway

>>15805167
disgusting

>>15805570
because star wars is the biggest normie franchise in history. It's literally the faux nerd genre's first snd most popular franchise

>>15805641
>Everyone is brown or a woman

Just how I remember Lego, not one yellow face in sight!

The designers in this case are "designing star wars" and not their own ships. Everything must be instantly obviously based on something pop culture.

That's why the Episode 7 ships were all X wings, if you're banking on nostalgia the mass audience won't recognise anything else. This is one area Lucas got right, every shot involved background stuff from the EU for fans, but it wasn't obnixously placed. Now they took that entire soul away and replaced it with cheap lego kits.

>>15806596
No it's not about someone not liking Star Wars, it's about people being total narcistic fucks about everything all the time as if that somehow makes them have "refined tase".

If you hate everything you might aswell just off yourself.

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>>15807691
>cheap lego kits

I can't wait to see the actual design that this piece of shit was based on.

>>15807693
>people being total narcistic fucks about everything all the time as if that somehow makes them have "refined tase"
>doesn't realize he's on /m/

>>15805165
https://youtu.be/czTksCF6X8Y

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>>15807697

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Im so sorry george

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>>15805165
To be fair a flat triangle like the Dark Slice here probably has amazing antiair battery overlap to keep random A-Wings from hitting the even larger command tower structure.

It's like that stupid asteroid field boss in Star Fox 64, one side for fucking things up, and the other for really fucking things up.

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>>15807828
The bridge reminds me of that robosperg Spyborg.

>>15805165
Wait.
Is "the bridge" separated from the main body?

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>>15807828
>the Dark Slice here probably has amazing antiair battery overlap
to the top, probably, but so does the traditional shape.

While the traditional Star Destroyer has far better AA overlap to the flanks, which I have visualized with this shitty image especially for this post

green representing the safe zones, blue the low coverage, purple and brown being good and very good overlap. as you can see, the Sloped array has a far better horizontal coverage than the flat top design.

>>15807693
Thats 4chan in general although the complaint of the designs and plot basically being a rehash of the original,is valid in my opinion.

There are a bunch of obnoxious and overblown statements, but sometimes there is something to them.

If someone says they are unhappy that a series they probably like, but wouldn't acutually admit to liking, are becoming cookie cutter and doesn't like what he sees as mindless consumption.

That aside no the movies work off of things that anon is not looking for and they could probably rehash 4-5-6 for decades if they wanted to.

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>>15807733

Am I a true nerd for knowing that thing's called a Strandbeest?

Also, I'm not bothering to watch a new "official" Star Wars movie on my own accord ever again.

Not after the mediocrity of The Force Awakens and the fact that Disney bought it.

I like to joke that the only good things to come out of Disney were Pixar and bunker-buster bombs.

And in all reality that's only half a joke.

>>15807691
As much as the the Prequels are (rightly) ridiculed the mechanical designs did a great job of making new ships and vehicles that still looked like they belong in Star Wars.

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>>15808056
The Trade Federation ships were the best.

>>15808009
>not bothering to watch a new "official" Star Wars movie on my own accord ever again.
>Not after the mediocrity of The Force Awakens
Missing out on Star Wars: Space Vietnam. The ground and space battles were worth admission alone.

>>15808155
Ground battle?

>>15805327
Wanna bet that's because some idiot misread the Executor's length in feet and not metres, thus completely killing their attempt to one-up its sheer scale?

>>15808194
>some idiot misread the Executor's length in feet and not metres
So NASA then?

>>15808141
>George Lucas was having breakfast at the ILM office one morning. He took a bite out of a donut, held it up and said "Here, make a ship out of this"

Genius

>>15808159
Was describing Rogue One. Cause anon said he wouldn't bother with another "official Star Wars movie" after TFA

>>15808207
I thought they were ok.

Was disappointed with the star destroyers again.

Imperials performing poorly on all fronts is nothing new though.

>>15808207

Key word being "official". Rogue One was a side story.

>>15805413
best fucking thing ever

>>15808234
You mean "Main Saga" story then. Rogue One is still an "Official" film in the Star Wars franchise.

>>15808253

Sorry, yeah. I should've clarified that further.

>>15808155
>Missing out on Star Wars: Space Vietnam.

That was the last 40 minutes of the film. The first hour and 20 minutes are a string of vaguely-connected scenes played in a sequence and some boring, unmemorable characters were involved.

It's great STAR WARS™ porn and it's things we know. Try to find a supercut of all the action scenes, if that's what you're looking for.

>>15805154

first order are cylons!

Star Wars is crap anyway. Half the galaxy is a desert, ships are for the most part greebly messes, environments and designs are simplistic and sterile. And then they went full muh diversity with the Resistance by making it mostly non-whites, chicks and a bunch of improbable-looking butt-ugly aliens to contrast the white human Empire.

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>>15808490
By your command!

>>15805675
>>15806102
I still find it amazing that Obi-Wan and a literally who had more chemistry in their first ten minutes together as part of a cartoon spin-off than Anakin and Padme had in three fucking feature films in which they were both main characters.

>>15809517
well tbf the shows writers did point out that they had dated at one point in the past so the fact that they had chemistry together shouldn't be that much of a surprise

>>15805154

That leg is seriously stressing me out.

>>15805314
A gun that shoots lightsabers?

>>15809823
Seriously speaking, I wouldn't be surprised if it's some kind of miniaturized version of the Death Star cannon.

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>>15805154
>AT-M6
>tweak'd version of the canceled Kenner AT-IC
>Just like how disney tweaked Dark Troopers into Sentry Droids

>>15806392
The hate against the Prequels is overblown and you fucking know it. The hate against the Sequels meanwhile is downplayed to this day since TFA came out.

>>15810903
No, they're really not. The sequels are pretty pants too but it's going to take time for the shine to come off, just like the prequels.

>>15810903
>The hate against the Sequels meanwhile is downplayed
Have you SEEN this thread? Have you seen ANY thread on 4chan that's even SLIGHTLY related to Star Wars? The entire series, but especially the Sequels, has been the biggest target of hate and derision whenever it's even brought up.

>>15809872
what they did to the dark troopers was the gayest shit, from badass to gay ass slow droids
man FUCK DISNEY and that mexican fat ass in charge of star wars lore

>>15810994
pablo hidalgo is the name of that cuck faggot

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>>15805154
if only this guy was still alive

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>>15811404
imagine if the star destroyers looked like giant cathedral ships instead of triangles

>>15810991
Nah just the Prequels and RLM apologists who inflate things.

>>15811416
Imagine if 40k was total dogshit in the first place before that.

>>15811662
'The fuck you goin' on about, m8?

Also, since you are in the minority of people who think the prequels weren't a trainwreck makes you the apologist.

>>15805570
We're at a point where I'm starting to appreciate the prequels for actually being different.
I really liked the Naboo mechanics for example, sleek as fuck.

>>15809789
Yeah, but my point was that the writers of TCW were able to write a better relationship in ten minutes of screen time than the writers of the prequel were able to in three movies.

>>15811809
Hell, TCW actually made me like Anakin, of all people. In the prequels he's this unlikeable, creepy asshole who you can't wait to turn to the dark side so we can it over with already, while in TCW he's this heroic, likeable bro who you feel bad about when you think he's going to start murdering children and try to kill his best friend.

>>15811877

That's the point. He's literally keeping in years or anger inside himself because it's the Jedi way to do so.

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So I guess /m/ Star Wars threads don't get half their posts purged every few hours, unlike the /toy/ ones.

>>15811993
I don't mind it. The Empire probably still has their point-of-sale and medical systems running on Windows XP.

>>15810994
He's not entirely in charge, he's just kinda the public face of the story team

>>15811877
Episode 3 alluded to him being heroic early on with Obi-wan praising him and talking about all the times Anakin rescued him.

It just wasn't shown as much.

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>>15811993
I still can't hate Red Shoulder TIE

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>>15811993
Republic vehicles were GOAT.

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>>15812396
The Naboo fighter and cruiser are both still in my top 10 best spaceship designs ever. So sexy.

How can the first order afford the production of brand new designs like this? I thought they pretty much put the last bit of their resources together to make the starkiller.

>>15812420
Super rich senators fund them and siphon funds from their governments to support them

>>15812420
somewhere Takahashi is crying that his scenario ghost-writing adding realism to account for the economic hardships caused to galactic food supplies and their effects on technological stagnation is going misunderstood

>>15810903
>The hate against the Prequels is overblown and you fucking know it.
It's not though. People all react differently, but it's two frustratingly bad movies and one barely acceptable one and the whole thing leaves you feeling unfulfilled and wondering why it was even worth making a trilogy about this. Even as a kid I was disappointed.
I will say they were at least adventurous with the aliens and mechanical designs though, unlike the Disney movies.

>>15805194
I had hope that with the New Hope rehash out of the way, the next movie would be entering new territory. But all the toy packaging and designs seem to indeed imply we are just getting a rehashed Empire. So all my hopes are kind of shattered at once.

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>>15812420
How could the First Order, the broken remnants of the once mighty Empire, manage to build and maintain a superweapon like the Starkiller Base (literally a planet sized Death Star) when the Empire itself was bankrupting itself on the Death Star? Especially when the First Order has none of the funding from galactic subjects like the Empire had?

>>15812439
I assumed they were literally scrapping fleets of star destroyers to make it happen. That excuse doesn't really fly if they are building brand new, even bigger star destroyers though.

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>>15812439
Maybe Death Star the 3rd was built with increased automation and subcontracted non-union space Mexicans.

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>>15812420
All of their bikers had to go into race competitions to help cover the cost.

>>15812439
They hired banking clans members as a part of the post Palpatine reshuffle, then invested their assets into reliable portfolios like the tatooine death insurance as well as multiple private arms manufacturers. Where as the empire only had about a decade after the christening of Darth Vader to procure most of the funding to get the death star project beyond blueprints, the new order had almost 30 years to really grow their nest egg, and the returns were exponential.
It's really too bad they forgot to buy insurance. You'd think they would have learned.

>>15806377

> no real directing talent

A New Hope has some of the best direction in the franchise, and Lucas made his mark by directing critically acclaimed films like THX1138 and American Grafetti. Directing is the thing he's best at if anything, and if you want proof then I'd point out that almost everyone who has ever seen A New Hope could probably reel off the opening ten minutes almost scene for scene and it has probably one of the most famous openings in cinema history. His failing is in scripting (though he's pretty good at plotting) and editing, not directing.

>>15806491

That cosmology in particular was thrown out years ago, and even Lucas rejected it going by The Clone Wars cartoons since there's characters explicitly talking about the Light and Dark side dichotomy within it.

>>15808009

Disney are responsible for a lot of early animation pioneering work and in large part responsible for animation taking off as a medium at all. Not solely responsible or anything, but they certainly played a large part and the medium probably wouldn't be nearly what it is today (for better or worse) without them. They also produced several good films of their own over the years, and helped popular musicals as a cinematic thing, rather than just a theater production.

That said, they've fucked copyright laws and the public domain over because they don't want Mickey Mouse to be a public figure among many other sins, but Pixar are hardly the only good thing they've ever done when it comes to animation.

>>15809828

That's certainly my expectation too. They should have done something similar in Force Awakens frankly, rather than just going for "bigger Death Star", with almost the same tactics necessary to defeat it. Having the new threat for converging lasers be miniaturizing them and placing them on multiple ships in a fleet rather than maximizing them and making it capable of FTL was just boring. At least miniaturizing them would mean reacting different tactically and possibly even strategically.

>>15811877

I'm still in mourning over season 6 of The Clone Wars. The unfinished animatic episode of him and Obi-Wan infiltrating a base where they lose their lightsabers and he starts gunslinging to show off as Obi-Wan slightly pouts but grudgingly admits it's cool is great, as is the bit later in the episode with Anakin and Obi-Wan discussing Ahsoka leaving the order around a campfire.

>>15812439

Where is it said the Empire is bankrupting itself to build the Death Stars? They certainly don't give that impression in the movies.

>>15812439
Because the STAR WARS™ remake needed a DEATH STAR™.

Seriously, it makes no sense at all and the stupid thing gets destroyed at the end. When I first saw the Starkiller I knew it was a Death Star remake, but I at least expected it to be different. It wasn't, though. I thought it would kill stars, but it blows-up planets like a Death Star. I thought it would just get crippled at the end of VII and survive until IX, but it blew-up like a Death Star.

I was hoping Starkiller was an ancient Sith super-weapon discovered by the First Order as their trump card to take the Galaxy back for a revived Empire, but it just turns out the First Order is just as well-funded and equipped as the Empire, anyway.

The Prequels might be embarrassing turds, but at least they aren't boring rehashes.

>>15812810
George had a lot more energy and drive to direct, back then, sure. However, the original Star Wars was almost a flop that was saved in editing and enhanced by the beautiful score by John Williams.

Also, Lucas has nothing on Irvin Kershner.

>>15812833
>The unfinished animatic episode of him and Obi-Wan infiltrating a base where they lose their lightsabers and he starts gunslinging to show off as Obi-Wan slightly pouts but grudgingly admits it's cool is great, as is the bit later in the episode with Anakin and Obi-Wan discussing Ahsoka leaving the order around a campfire.
despite being unfished its still one of my favorite episodes/arcs of the series

>>15813233

In what way was it almost a flop? Because the movie was a blockbuster from the day it debuted. And every movie is made in editing. Saying A New Hope was like it's exceptional in that regard is an empty statement because editing can and does make or break films. Also, the direction of A New Hope is better than that of Empire Strikes Back. The scripting and plot of Empire has more tension and character but the direction isn't as memorable.

Who was responsible for these designs? Do we know?

>>15813258
The original cut of the film, before the final edit to theaters. Even official documentaries talk about how troubled the original Star Wars production was.

Also, I won't say anything further regarding comparisons to ESB, because we clearly have differing opinions, there.

>>15813333

Editing is not Lucas' forte, which I said in my original post. Just because there's an explicit cut that makes it obvious doesn't mean it's not true of all films that the editing is important. The only reason the editing could save it is because Lucas got the shots used in a different edit in the first place; it just took his wife's editing to blend them together for a better cut. That's not a failure in directing, it's a fsilure/success in editing.

>>15813205
If anything, they're substantially better funded than the Empire. Starkiller was stupid-huge.

>>15813442
Indeed. The Death Star only raised subtle physics problems that one can overlook by suspending disbelief, whereas the Starkiller raised blatant physics problems that are hard to ignore.

>>15812476
Nute please. Go back to fucking around with the Ewoks.

>>15812430
>two frustrating bad movies
TPM wasn't that bad.
>and one barely acceptable one
RoTS is better than anything made by Disney. Don't push your subjectivity as fact.

>>15811693
I don't think you know what apologism is.

>>15812833
>Where is it said the Empire is bankrupting itself to build the Death Stars? They certainly don't give that impression in the movies.
Didn't Tarkin give Vader some shit over his super expensive sekrit superweapon in the first movie?

>>15814467
Apparently, to you, it means people who agree with those you disagree with.

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>>15814451
>TPM wasn't that bad.

>>15814274
>Ewoks
>Not Gungans
Do you even prequel anon?

>>15811899
No, that's not the point you double sand person. The point is simply that Luacas, his writers and Christensen made a shit character whereas Filoni, his writers and Lanter made a completely different and actually likeable one.

>>15811899
>He's literally keeping in years or anger inside himself because it's the Jedi way to do so.
That couldn't be more wrong. The Jedi way is to let go of your anger, while he bottled it up. Anakin's character-development may have been wanting, but they got that part right, at least.

>>15814823

Not that I recall, nó. Nor would it make sense for him to do so, since the Death Star was the culmination of Tarkin's philosophy of 'rule btly fear', not Vaders. Vader gives him some stick and says he shouldn't be overly confident in it and that if pales in power compared to he Force, which you may be getting mixed up I guess.

>>15814823
The other way around, Vader to the various high ranking officers when they're talking about whether the Death Star is vulnerable or the ultimate power in the galaxy.
"Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant compared to the power of the Force."

>>15811877
>>15812364
>>15815038
That's why I love the RotS novelization, and the book prequel to it, Labyrinth of Evil. Together, they show a much different Anakin than the movie, and make his fall believable.

>>15805154
I don't understand how, given they now have the chance to do something original, they stick with stuff that's heavily based on the old designs?

>>15816060
because a board meeting isn't exactly a place for innovation.
>we need to sell this to the audience
>lets give them what they know and love about the franchise
>ok

>>15816082

I refuse to accept this argument when Lucas added Ewoks in just for toy value and Lucasarts was so infamous for making and selling merch out of literally everything and in every format that even fucking Spaceballs made fun of it decades ago.

The level of cognitive dissonance to go "it's fine when Lucas does it, but Disney can't." makes you impossible to either take seriously or even respect your opinions on any level.

>but when Lucas did it-

No. Either it's bad when they both do it or it's fine either way. i refuse, REFUSE to accept this double standard because Lucas is some fucking auteur and that makes it alright.

>>15816240

> one guy does whatever pleases him and mostly uses designs and concepts new to the franchise in each iteration
> multiple people agree on a design that pleases all of them and mostly use minor variations on existing designs from the franchise in each entry
> these are the same thing because both were motivated by money during the process

>>15816240
>>lets give them what they know and love about the franchise

>>15811794

the mechanical design was not the prequel's problems for sure

>>15806344

not to mention SNOKE sounds like the nickname of the annoyingly goofy stoner in a college bro movie, and is the most retarded bad guy name of all time

>>15816584
The Naboo ship's dumb spindly legs were one of them. Rest of the mechanical design was pretty cool, though. I like the Trade Federation donut ships a lot for some reason.

>>15816612

the podracers are cool too

basically anything made out of a jet engine is going to look awesome desu

>>15811993
The prequels were definitely shitty in terms of story and character, but the mechanical designs were pretty creative and unique. I have a soft spot for the Naboo starfighter, myself.

george lucas and team definitely took at least a bit of influence from japanese mechanical design, right?
maybe the reason these feel so lame is because they don't have that throughline

just an idea

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>>15816584
>>15817354
That's one thing about the prequels that I can't say about the Disney sequels, all that stuff made for really great video games. I'm glad that EA's 60$ standalone patch for Battlefront will include Clone Wars stuff. Love playing as battle droids.

>>15816240
I think you are missing the point. Lucas was a business man, but at least he tried to innovate his product. Sell MORE toys.

Disney doesn't want to add to Star Wars, they want to SELL Star Wars to the Audience. Lucas had the last word in any design choices, while now a board of suits make decisions.

>>15814859
You heard me right, faggot.

>>15817543
I did, that's why my face fell into a cringe-vortex.

Also, allow me to ruin the 'awesome' lightsaber fight for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0mUVY9fLlw

>>15817527

Lucas was also a creator first and business man second, and always put creativity before business and profited from what he created or helped create. Disney is business first and creativity second.

Does anyone remember when there was a super secret unlock code for the Naboo Starfighter in Rebel Assault II for the N64? The game came out before the movie but it stayed hidden until they released the unlock code. It was so cool knowing they had the design in the game the entire time but managed to keep it secret.

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>>15817481
That period of time around Episode II and Episode III was the best. Star Wars games were so fun back then.

>>15817634

I meant Rogue Squadron my bad

>>15817636
>get on a LA-AT
>"space it ain't me" starts playing

>>15817634
>>15817637

fuck yes here's a 1999 IGN story on that

http://www.ign.com/articles/1999/07/20/the-secrets-of-rogue-squadron

>>15817481
>I'm glad that EA's 60$ standalone patch
I'm guessing I missed the joke: you're talking about the next Battlefront?

>>15817676
Yes. I mean, the other one just came out and the only differences look like all the stuff that should have been in it in the first-place.

>>15817647
>giant centipede flashbacks

>>15816593
He can join Darth Maul and General Grievous in the Getter Team made up of Star Wars villains with really dumb names.

>>15817354
Prequels had the best storyline.

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>>15817776
It was pretty good, but maybe I'm just saying that because I can imagine how it looked a lot better in Lucas' head.

>>15808155
>Missing out on Star Wars: Space Vietnam.

Return of the Jedi was 34 years ago.

>>15817792
The Empire should have known better than to get involved in a planetside war with furry natives.

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>>15818030
What kind of sick fuck would make a ship entirely out of pixels?

>>15818052
What do you have against pixels? Are you one of those vertex supremacists?

>>15817617
And Disney has even managed to fail at that, flooding the market with a ton of toys basically nobody wants, that are 75% off and still not moving.

>>15805973
i loved that thing. too bad it seemed like it was made of paper.

>>15816240
Stop defending DisneyWars™ you faggot.

>>15817363
"no"

>>15805165
well, they got rid of the shield generator domes, maybe this type won't spiral out of control after crashing a snub fighter into it.

>>15806420
I liked reading the discussions they had for each design. It's better than X-wings and TIEs.

>>15806437
>B-but MUH ASIAN INDIANA JONES

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>>15806900

lol

>>15814847
No, really, you don't know what apologism is.