What does /m/ think of Robotech comics?
Reading through them and the early ones look like they drew over the frames of the tv show.
Yeah, the art does have a certain quality and charm to it. And that's the issue I'm on right now.
The one for the end of the Macross saga is actually kinda cool. Since they're not stuck with existing footage they actually draw the SDF-2 in the scenes so the idea of the two of them sorta makes sense.
>Robofags actually enjoying their shitty comics
Not that guy, this thread was sarcasm the whole time?
I thought this was legit Robofags just pretending their comic was good and people were agreeing. I just didn't say anything because I don't know shit about art.
If you actually believed that anyone could think that this shit looks even remotely decent then your sarcasm detector needs a MAJOR overhaul.
I'm sorry. I thought Robotech fans were just that delusional. I really wanted to say "Are you all fucking crazy"
I am. I'm OP. So in fact someone is enjoying them, sorry to burst your bubble.
I see you want more. Have Breetai in a speedo in glorious color.
I hope so.
What did Lisa say when she saw Rick in his speedo?
My God, it's full of stars
Says the guy who saved that webm...
You really don't understand the context, how old are you? You have to be at least 18 to post on a chinese painting board.
Dude defied orders and made his own call in the heat of battle.
>"Go for the tires!"
>"FUCK THE TIRES! I'M GOING FOR THE PILOT!"
>Reading through them and the early ones look like they drew over the frames of the tv show.
The very first issue was pretty much a by-the-numbers trace job. I believe Carl Macek said that he and his wife worked on it and he said his wife fucked up on painting it or something which is supposed to explain why it all looks like ass.....Blaming your wife for something that was a pretty horrible idea from the start is pretty low.
It was only until issue #2 and onward that they pulled in a conventional art team to do the work for them. Problem was, these were all just American illustrators who drew cartoon characters and various Transformers comics in the 80s and couldn't quite emulate the Japanese art style they were given.
That and they actually did a far better job explaining the complete turnaround plot with Protoculture and the Robotech Masters than the actual show did. In certain scenes like the peace negotiations between Exedor and the SFD-1 crew they altered and extended some of the dialogue and story elements to better fit the rest of the lore that was established in previous Robotech comics. The Comico stuff definately isn't winning any praise for artwork, but at least they managed to fix some things while serving as simple brain-filler.
And yeah, pic related isn't a fan tracing
Just out of curiosity; Did you download the entirety of the Robotech comics from 1984 - 2008? If so, I sure hope you're reading these in the order that was provided in the "Extras" folder that came with the package, otherwise you're going to be hella lost.
There is an assload of Robotech novels too. I first heard about them when I went to Half Price Books and they had what looked like all of them in the section for shitty sci-fi novels no one wanted to read.
There's 21 altogether. Haven't read them myself, but I do plan on giving them a try. They seem to get far more praise than any other Robotech merch ever released, by both fans and critics alike. Not to mention it actually puts a complete end to the series by the conclusion of the final book, or so I've read.
Come to think about it, Half Price Books is really the only real place to find these things in person (unless you know a good retro resale book shop like I do that happens to horde old shit). Though, most of the time they just stick them in the "Movie/TV" tie-in section with Terminator and Doctor Who novels. On a rare occasion do I find them in the clearanced 'collectible' section.
>There is an assload of Robotech novels too. I first heard about them when I went to Half Price Books and they had what looked like all of them in the section for shitty sci-fi novels no one wanted to read.
The Robotech novels are actually quite good. Don't read them as if they were an adaptation of the tv series. They're not. It's very very different in tone. And forget about all the retconning Yunne has been doing these last couple of years. He wants to obliterate the novels and bring everything in line with his shitty view of the franchise which boils down to Robotech=Mospeada.
I used to go to Half Price Books a lot, not so much anymore. Now that I think about it I never see any animu stuff in the Collectable section, except for some ancient American Sailor Moon dolls about two or three years ago.
Yune used to draw furry comics. I don't think anybody cares what he thinks.
Now that I think about it there was a Robotech/Voltron crossover comic from only three years ago. I torrented it but deleted it having never read it for space.
>And forget about all the retconning Yunne has been doing these last couple of years.
Actually, he's doing more than that now. He's going back and REWRITING these things and making them the only copies available in print. All the ebook editions are like this now.
There is a guy on KAT who has been doing "curated" collections of sci-fi and fantasy novels. In his 80's package I see some Jack McKinney novels. I don't have my external with these books connected right now but are these the names of any Robotech books?
>I believe Carl Macek said that he and his wife worked on it and he said his wife fucked up on painting it or something which is supposed to explain why it all looks like ass
That's funny, because I own the first six comics in spanish and there's a comments section stating that the first comic is beautiful due to the water-color backgrounds and that later numbers do a great job at emulating the japanese estyle, even if they go for a more american comic-book style.
Robotech went through a lot of publications that most of it have different continuities and rendered non-canon like these mechs.
YVF-14A Tigercat and YVM-29 "BLUE MAX".
Yeah it is like ripping off Macross Zero.
Bioroid from Robotech Rolling Thunder
Bioroid Interceptor and Invid Overlord which are part of primary canon I think.
The Invid Overlord debut in the game Robotech Invasion which is considered non-canon.
Invid Mortar Scout based on unused Mospeda concept art. First debut in Robotech Invasion.
I wouldn't say most of them. The only ones that I found that directly contradicted with the original continuity were Wings of Gibraltar, Robotech Annual (collection of random short stories), Covert Operations, Vermilion, and Robotech Crystal Dreams (canceled tie-in to a cancelled videogame).
Then, of course, you've got everything in Wildstorm Comics which is supposed to establish the "new" canon of the franchise, and tosses any pre 2001 comic material out the window, thus erasing loads of backstories and filler, and introducing new holes and dead ends that Tommy and his team don't have the money or the attention span to fill in or answer.
>Yeah it is like ripping off Macross Zero
To be fair, the issue that this was taken from, "Prototype-001", was published by Antarctic Press in 1997, four years before Macross Zero released in 2002. Both stories and mechs do share some similarities, though.
Since these comics were published in the late 80s and throughout the 90s (about midway when Harmony Gold's clusterfucks began piling up and pissing people off) I think it has more to do with the fact that all of the publications for these books were being run by huge anime fans who were going 'ga-ga' over everything that was popular at the time. Throughout these comics there are numerous dialogue and art shout-outs to things like Battle Angel, Akira, Bubblegum Crisis, etc. There was even a Zeta Gundam reference in one of the Comico books where Kamile and Char are dining at a table near the bridge bunnies and Zentraedi deserters, and this was published in 1989 before Zeta was even brought stateside.
>Advanced Bioroids and Invid mecha from current canon
>...They actually don't look or sound like shit
Well damn, I never thought that anything under the Yune brothers' watch could actually impress me. Now I feel kinda bad that none of these will ever be fully implemented into anything worthwhile.
>Bioroid interceptor looks like a Gundam in all but name.
>has none of a Gundam's distinctive features like a vent face or v-fin
>apparently humanoid mecha = Gundams now
I know Robotech threads tend to attract trolls, but could you at least try not to come across as an absolute retard?
As for the Bioroid Interceptor, the design is based on a Bioroid that shows up in the last few episodes of Southern Cross that's been given a backpack and filtered through the more boxy aesthetics of Mospeada.
What a trace job.
That's pretty fucking awesome to see Char and Kamille in an issue of Robotech. There's even a Zeta logo on the mug ! But how could the artist know about MSG, let alone MSGZ when there was no internet and fansubbing was pretty limited ?
You know, I like this idea of a small jeep or vehicle that transforms into power armor. Back as a kid when watching Robotech New Generation, I wondered why Lunk's jeep didn't transform like the rest of the team's Cyclone's. But the execution of this just blows.
I can't speak for 1989, but by the mid90s you'd contact people via bbs or person-to-person networking, it was more a matter of time delay than outright difficulty.
If it was a good VHS fansub it was made from Japanese laserdiscs, but usually you'd be stuck with a lot of generational loss from TV tapes or VHS overdubbings. The subtitles were nasty big and made on a VHS titler, as in a predominantly analog device that added further generational loss.
I think the absolute low point was when these tapes were then ripped and shared online or on CD-Rs as 40mb .rm files.
>I think the absolute low point was when these tapes were then ripped and shared online or on CD-Rs as 40mb .rm files.
lol I should dig up my ancient G2 encodes of Robotech.
kk I'll keep an eye out for some of my godawful vivo and rm videos when I get home
I might have some movs from the absolute madman who uploaded almost all of Sailor Moon 200 only a day after it aired, too.
I don't think I want to explain the difference between now being able to get pretty much any anime that's fansubbed both past and present compared to before where you'd be lucky to have a decent picture much less subtitle quality
yeah, you were lucky to get 3rd gen VHS tapes, often you'd get more like 4~5 from the airing
Guy in Japan tapes it->makes copy sent to Fansubber-> Fansubber makes master sub copy->Your copy from that
was a pretty common distro chain
and selection was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more limited
Here's some old Sailor Moon script I found digging through my stuff
>I'm Usagi Tsukino. 14 years old. Grade 8. I guess I'm a bit bumbling and cry baby.
ooh this one's better
>I'm Usagi Tsukino. I'm super heroine. I transform using a broach and beat up the bad guys! I'm the Sailor Warrior fighting for love and justice. Sailor Moon! And my friends are: kind hearted genius girl, Ami Mizuno-chan and a bit short tempered psychic girl, Ray Hino-chan. They're so mature that I might lose out. But I guess I gotta do it.
I was reminded of something else hilarious, someone wrote a fake summary of Episode 200 of Sailor Moon that I wish I could find right before it came out and attributed it to Hitoshi Doi, that guy who used to write the summaries and had it be about them pulling out guns. Sailor Mercury had twin pearl handled revolvers with mercury-tipped bullets. It ended up with Sailor Star Maker and Sailor Star Healer holding Sailor Uranus' arms while Sailor Star Fighter violently pistol whipped her, and when Galaxia came, Sailor Chibi Chibi summoned the greatest weapon in the Moon Kingdom: "No, not the moon rod, the moon bazooka."
They blew her into bloody chunks.
It ended with, "Some other stuff happened but I forgot."
I remember reading about his voice actress events, and there was one that he followed like obsessively from DoCo, Kikuko Inoue I think it was, and then in one review he made a nasty comment and said, "I hope she retires."
I wonder if she or one of her agents told him to stop creeping on her or something like that.
I own every robotech comic made. I really like them. The Sentenal stuff with John and Jason Waldrip is fantastic! Invid war and Invid war Aftermath really expand the last part of robotech too. The first ones are just rehash of the show, but are not bad.
Don't read Robotech CLone, it made no sense to me.
>I think the absolute low point was when these tapes were then ripped and shared online or on CD-Rs as 40mb .rm files.
I was born in 1988, but I remember the tinyass porn videos on Limewire that looked like they came off a potato.
>tfw born in 91 and knew instantly when I found out about it limewire was bad fucking news and laughed at all the idiots nearly bricking their machines with it
I already knew the right way to pirate anyway, shit was just funny
"The war will be for the interface" is hilariously true
I got most of Maison Ikkoku from a group that sent out each tape with a bonus bit of them being silly. Their Lodoss Wars dub was hysterical, they had Deedlit voiced by a gravely dude and Ghim voiced by a girl with Woodchuck doing the Keyop "Sprook-dook" bullshit.
Now thinking about it finding cp was easier than finding an actual song by Weird Al on limewire. What a crazy time.