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Let's confirm something.

/m/ like mecha because they're cool and not really think that they are feasable or practical in real life, right?
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Of course
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>>13849440
unless you count drones as mechs
no
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Well why else would you like them?
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>>13849440
/m/ like mecha. Beyond that, you are attempting to intrusively force your will on what the board can, will or should like.

I reject you and your miserly soul bound by gravity.
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>>13849440
God /k/ is so autistic
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>>13849500
i fucking despise /k/
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>>13849440
Are you telling me that 20 meter tall bipedal robots are unrealistic?
No way!
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>>13849507
Me too. I can't think of it as an accident that /k/ has really heavy crossover with /pol/, and contains impressive numbers of the most vitriolic, spiteful racists and misogynists on 4chan. It's like regressive barbarism and militia-mindedness go hand to hand with gun ownership and hobbyism, and that both terrifies and disgusts me as a librul hippy gun-lover. They're all going to ruin it for the sane ones.
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>>13849537
No /k/ i don't dislike you because i hate guns
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>>13849537
i hate /k/ simply because realfags went around like tankstankstankstankstankstankstankstankstankstanks
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>>13849440
The first answer to almost everything /m/ is "Because its cool."

Not because its realistic, but because its cool.

Real life is rather uncool at times.
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Robots aren't limited to combat only, medical care android is feasible.
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>>13849549
tanks > mechs tho.
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>>13849567
>medical care android is feasible.
Also, meido gynoids.
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>>13849577
If /m/ had mods you'd get banned for posting this you crossboarding nigger
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Robots are cool, tanks aren't
You're not going to lecture us on the logistics of fictional robots now, are you?
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>>13849589
Robots are cool, tanks are cool

I like them both.
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>>13849589
To be fair, some tanks are cool.
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>>13849607
looks like crap
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>>13849589
>Robots are cool, tanks aren't
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>>13849440
> NORAD tracks Santa Clause every christmas and really not think that a sledge flown by reindeers driven by a fat man in cold winter nights is feasable or practical in real life, right?
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>>13849636
get off /m/, boss
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>>13849636
Huey get OUT
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>>13849440
/m/ never claims to be real life applications board like /g/,/po/,/diy/ for now

I enjoy things that dosen't mean I have to specify it's fictional every time when it's obvious as fuck in 1st place.

Wish we had janitors deleting waste of space like these threads.

By the way,that dosen't mean thread about plausibility should stop but question like op is just fucking redundant and loaded .
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>>13849624
Rude.
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>>13849659
There are three "are mechs real"/"mechs can't be real" blah, blah, blah threads on catalog right now. What do these wannabe /k/ tards expect? Do you think you have discovered some unique, never before seen trolling? Are you going to make 5 threads about the giant box in mecha?
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>>13849500
>>13849507
It's funny to see /k/ claim the are the arbiters of military realism, which is hilarious because they actually know very little about the military and military tactics.

>>13849537
Not this shit again.
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>>13849671
>Do you think you have discovered some unique, never before seen trolling?

What part of my previous post gives you that impression?It should had been the vice versa

>Are you going to make 5 threads about the giant box in mecha?

Why would I do that?
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That goes without saying.
The only real life applications are things like power armor.

>>13849537
I own guns and don't like /k/ either, but you need to stop throwing around words that can derail a thread.
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>>13849717
>but you need to stop throwing around words that can derail a thread.

Oh. Well. That's true, I wasn't thinking that far. While I believe my points are valid, I think yours take priority. I'll remove it.
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>>13849624
>dissing the Centurion
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>>13849440
Let's confirm something.

OP likes cocks because they're cool and not really because he's a flaming faggot in real life, right?
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>>13849839
Yeah, futas are cool.
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>>13849717
>>13849825
>cannot delete posts this old

FUG

Who the hell made this rule?
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>>13849440
>/m/ like mecha because they're cool

Yes, of course, obviously.

I mean... duh?
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>>13849483
>/m/ like mecha. Beyond that, you are attempting to intrusively force your will on what the board can, will or should like.
>I reject you and your miserly soul bound by gravity.

Beautiful response.
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>>13849440
Some of us want spider tanks and powered armor, but in general:
Mars and space: possible by converting humanoid limbed construction exosuits or something becoming a staple due to comfort or something. The lower gravity helps, but would only stay if it found a niche or it was just more feasible to convert the construction vehicles into military units. Just don't expect it.
Earth: highly unlikely to laughable in concept that it would happen because tanks are lucky to still be used as artillery.

Giant robot are really cool though.
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>>13850301
One only strives to be worthy of being called a /m/an.
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To me, cool factor is the main ingredient in mecha, while realism is just a spice or condiment. Adding some realism to the mix can greatly enhance the cool factor, but too much realism and it's ruined. You don't want the main ingredient buried under the pile of condiments, you know.

Unless you're Van from Gun X Sword.
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>>13849440
problems to over come why we still don't have gundams today:
problem 1: we cannot even produce anything kind of computing on par with any complex brains of today, they tried and experimented with 10000+ cpu cores and a super computer linked up VM to simulate basic full motion control of live animals last year, it took them 40 min to simulate 1 sec of a human brain, around 25 to 30 min for 1 sec of a rat

problem 2: cost of research is too much, when even MURRICA have no money for NASA to go back to the moon, what hope can you get them to make terminator into real life?

problem 3: why bother when man power is still cheap as fuck, even the army admit that it's cheaper to pay out for dead soldiers that's KIA than to keep them alive, this is why the MURRICUNT army refused to give their soldiers better armors then the piece of shit that they strap on them and make them run around getting shot in iraq
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>>13852715
problem 4: giant bipedal robot s are impractical compered to traditional AFVs so there is no point in making them.
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>>13853361
But how do you jump kick alien in their face with treads?
legs>treads
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>>13853415

You set tank in attack position and ram their toes, Ivanov.

Stubbed toes/tentacle-tips more painful than any American waterboarding method. Very effective.
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>>13849624
You shut your whore mouth.
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>>13849440

"Realism" is the most disgusting meme in media. It's just a lack of imagination and failure to sell the premise of the series.

Magic and dragons and space wizards can be the premise of a deep story. It's just people trying to be hard to be "mature" that ruin everything.

Fuck realism.
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>>13854806

We can both agree that verisimilitude is fine though, right?
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>>13854822

Depends to which extent. You can have a setting with absurd rules and bizarre settings, like Xabungle's Three Day Rule or some of the more insane stuff from Dune, and it can still ring true.
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>>13849607

Not saying it wasn't a fine machine, but that's a face only a British mother could love.
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>>13849440
I don't know about the rest of this board but I like mecha because I have a massive hateboner for real world military shit and I love watching giant robots blow up tanks, jets, soldiers, etc.

Honestly I just hate /k/ in general.
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>>13854876
Kaifun please leave.
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>>13854884
I was going to but now I'm going to stay just to spite you.
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>>13854876
>massive warboner, for wargear like tanks and SPAAGs in particular
>favorite mecha look like humanoid military tech and operate in teams, platoons or wings
come the fuck at me, pacifist fuccbois. Mecha are the ultimate expression of "Man is the means of War".
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>>13854947
You're such a retard. What makes you think someone who likes watching shit blow up is a pacifist? I'd gladly walk over and smash your empty skull in. I hate military dipshits like you and take pleasure in seeing you mowed down like the dogs you are.
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>>13849607
>British tanks.
It's funny how the nation that invented them has always had such trouble building decent tanks.
Even today, the Challenger 2 lacks blowout panels.
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>>13855220
To be fair not many tanks feature them. Actually Abrams is the only that comes to mind. Even the Merkava doesn't use them.
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>>13855162
By the time you turn fourteen you are going to cringe at the memory of having made posts like that.

>>13855401
Leopard 2, Leclerc, type 10 and the k2 off of the top of my head all have them.
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>>13855462
Leo 2 still has them? I would think that anything past the A4 wouldn't be able to fit them because of the supplemental armor. K1 is still (to me) sort of in the Abrams family. Didn't know the Type 10 had them, funny that the Type 90 didn't (especially given it's Leopard-esque turret).
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>>13855462
Also I guess T-72s have it too. They just call it the turret.
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>>13855523

Battle tank model of 1972 features state of the art automatic emergency escape system. In event of hull penetration, remaining ammuniton load is utilized to launch turret clear of damaged tank hull.
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>>13855516
>Leo 2 still has them?
Yeah, they haven't put any armor or gear over them.
>funny that the Type 90 didn't
It has them, I just forgot about it.

>>13855523
>>13855570
Any tank apart from the M1 will jack in the box if any hull-stored ammo is hit.
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>>13855162
Someone's mom yelled at them today.
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Mecha are better in space and air, where tanks can't go yet.
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>>13855642
>he doesn't know that Guntank can't space
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>>13849440
Fuck you man, mecha with legs wont work on Earth, but they sure as hell will work on the Moon once we colonize it.
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Of course mecha are feasable
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>>13849693
No I'm agreeing with you.

>What do these wannabe /k/ tards expect?
I thought this indicated I was now talking about a different group of people.
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>>13849440
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQjaSw18Scc

Where were you when realism-fags were BTFO'D long before /m/ was even created.
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>>13849537

Reddit is that way.
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>>13849440
You're so boring, /k/-kun.
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>>13855874
im not sure what your saying with that nonsense intro to an old video game?
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>>13855220
>decent tanks
The Centurion was really good for an early MBT though.
That one Centurion that was used for a nuke test, it survived the nuke and was driven back to base under its own power.
The Chieftain had a terrible engine, which is mostly due to the people in charge not changing it for a proper diesel engine when everyone else jumped off the multi-fuel engine train after realising that its a bad idea. NATO's requirement for a multi-fuel engine at the time was retarded and the Chieftain paid the price for it with its terrible engine.
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>>13855959
Feel the burn, ba/k/a.

It is a footage from future.
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>>13856019
That's BS. Multi-fuel works for all kinds of vehicles, like the T72 and T80.
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>>13855401
The Merk 4 does have blowout panels for its turret ammo stowage.
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Tanks are ugly as shit
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>>13849440
>mecha are not realistic

So all these tanks, aircraft, trucks, etc are all just a figment of my imagination?
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>>13853361
Good luck using a tracked or wheeled vehicle in a shelled out city with debris strewn about in tiny streets originally intended for foot traffic only. There is a reason infantry are still the kings of urban combat.

FYI: the army expects all major combat operations to be conducted within sprawling large cities with poor infrastructure. Sending any sort of traditional wheeled or tracked vehicle into the environment is suicide, a lesson the Israeli's learned back in the 80s.
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>>13849440
>/m/ like mecha because they're cool and not really think that they are feasable or practical in real life, right?
No one ever "like" something because it is "feasible or practical".

Why would ANYONE think "it is feasible and practical!" is any kind of selling point? You use what is practical, but practicality isn't meant to be loved.

Why do you think people love peculiar cars and tanks that have a personality, despite having deep engineering flaws? Romanticism is not necessarily contrary to practicality, but they are generally not related.
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>>13856827
>Why would ANYONE think "it is feasible and practical!" is any kind of selling point?

Because they are armchair generals talking out of their ass. It's that simple really.
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>>13856827
Here is an example of a real life mecha; the SWORD system. A gun on tracks.

I generally didn't care much for the weapon, but I started to feel some attachment to the guy when I heard what got it cancelled; on the day of its demonstration in front of VIPs, it went out of control and pointed the loaded gun AT the VIPs during the trial. Thus the drone is a piece of shit and can't be trusted. But that flaw makes it cute.
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>>13849440
/k/ tanks are impractical unless you want to create a parking low out of towns. A plane could do it better.
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>>13849483
fuck your good response
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>>13854806

Magic is magic. It's entire point is shitting on physics.

Mecha are different. Many mecha series try to be completely serious and pretend that mechas are realistic.
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>>13856827
>Why would ANYONE think "it is feasible and practical!" is any kind of selling point?

It's not.

But when something is too stupid people stop taking it seriously. And mechas often are too stupid.

This is perfectly fine for super robot shows that never even pretended to be realistic in any way. But when you have a mecha show that tries to be a serious war drama but with giant toys fighting it just becomes silly.
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>>13856916
>But when you have a mecha show that tries to be a serious war drama but with giant toys fighting it just becomes silly.

Having a relatively gritty portrayal war that's being fought by giant toys is part of the charm
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>>13856916
I'm experiencing secondhand autism right now
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>>13856916
By this logic most radical fiction should never try to tackle anything, it'll all be silly.

Take things less seriously.
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>>13857023
It's the contrast that makes it delicious.
Like those hentai with ugly dudes fucking hot women.

Wait, maybe that's improper analogy
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>>13857074
>Wait, maybe that's improper analogy
No, no, I like it.
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>>13857074
But I like Gundam and I don't like ugly dudes in hentai.
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>>13856862
Planes are impractical, tanks don't crash and explode when they run out of fuel.

>>13857418
I don't like Gundam and I don't like ugly dudes in hentai.
Maybe he's on to something.
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>>13856834
viva la robolution!
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>>13856767

>Good luck using a tracked or wheeled vehicle in a shelled out city with debris strewn about in tiny streets originally intended for foot traffic only. There is a reason infantry are still the kings of urban combat.

Armored vehicles are of course very vulnerable in urban terrain, but infantry alone gets fucking slaughtered in urban warfare by infantry with armored support. Unsupported infantry takes like three times the casualties.

People forget that the same ambush tactics that work on vehicles work even better on unsupported infantry, since you can use machine guns and grenades instead of rocket launchers only.
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>>13856767

Wait, you really think humanoid robots would be any better at this? Seriously?

And traditional vehicles actually do pretty good in cities these days. Thanks to things like Trophy or Quick Kill.
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Why are people talking about real life military bullshit?

Who the fuck invited /k/?

I can't believe people actually like talking about this boring ass shit. If you think war is so exciting and interesting why don't you go participate? Do the world a favor and give us 1 less idiot.
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>>13856047
they sure have some shit CGI in the future
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>>13858242
I second this. OP's a fag.
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>>13849549
/k/ gets tired of anons asking why giant robots havent been made, followed by meaningless straw grasps to rationalize them
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>>13858713
This is no reason for /k/ autists to come to /m/.
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>>13858655
Nice brick collection.What is that, Minecraft?
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>>13855642
>where tanks can't go
FUCK YOU, BITCH, I DO WHAT I WANT.
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>>13858754
I can't imagine any reason to go to that shithole. People who think guns and tanks are interesting are some of the most pleb-tier autstis I've ever had to deal with.
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>>13858743
Red Alert 2 desu
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>>13858732
Actually there is, when an /m/ series features real equipment.

On the other hand there is no reason for /m/ to leak into /k/.
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>>13858762
I hope you understand the irony of saying that on /m/.
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>>13858762
Wow, he deleted his post?

Ah well, I was gonna say thatmost people asking such questions are likely A) underageb& or B) not from /m/, and if they claim to be they're still shits. "Tit for tat" in a meta sense is also fucking stupid and achieves nothing.
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>>13858770
That sort of terrible logic is what leads to stuff like the Digimon thread. Get outta here.
And I already said anything "/m/" on /k/ is just random shitters. Hide autism threads.
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>>13858780
See
>>13858770

Careful not to embarrass yourself.
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>>13855642

There is absolutely no reason to make a flying machine humanoid. Not even mentioning horrible aerodynamics of a humanoid shape.
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>>13858762

That's rich coming from people who find giant plastic toys interesting.

And I really love how GuP completely raped all original mecha series since CG. Shows how Nips don't care about tanks right?
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>>13858824
Here's one reason: it looks much cooler
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>>13858833
>people watch k-on for the instruments
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>>13858840

Maybe if you are a kid. Most mechas look retarded.

There are some gems out there, but generic mechas like Gundams look pathetic. They look like action figures for 14y olds.
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>>13858851

You do know that GuP gave incredible boost to tank models sales right?
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>>13858863
t. i've seen over 10 animes
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>>13858743
>Minecraft

nigger you best be shitposting
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>>13858979
>I have no argument
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>>13858985
any post on a crossboarder thread is shitposting
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>>13849440
I don't like mecha and I don't find them cool.

I really think they are feasable or practical in real life.

What you are going to do now,op apart from taking dick in the ass?
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People on /m/ sure seem insecure when someone asks a simple question about how realistic they think their cartoons are.
The sperging out at the boogeyman board that you think is bullying you over realism is /a/ level of autism
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>>13860922
>play gta
>wow man are you going to shoot up random people in the street?
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Even in this thread there are still people who believe mecha will be real. well a human size or smaller maybe but giant humanoid robot, how can anyone believe that?
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>>13861275
> Even in this thread there are still people who believe mecha will be real.
Anyone who have looked at modern technology.

> well a human size or smaller maybe but giant humanoid robot, how can anyone believe that?
Get back there with that Goalpost mister, I'm warning you !

Put aside that exoskeletons are already a thing, not a maybe, "giant" is too vague and a humanoid is a purely aesthetic criteria with no grip on what could be.
A 20m tall humanoid mech can turn out to be technically feasible even if we actually end up preferring Octopus-mech.
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>>13861535
>excavator that can raise and lower its wheels
>Totally the same as a giant robot, guys!
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Front Mission stuff looks neat, but mechs seem like they'd be scarier if they came out in real life. Robots, I'm sure someone'll find a way to make like some sort of living doll thing, but mechs? If they were just used for war, then that's lame. It'd be nice, and I'm hopeful, for some cleanup or maintenance mechs for things too dangerous for humans, which doesn't seem too far off considering all the bots we have doing that now.
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>>13861535
do you fucking realize how big 20m is dude, a 20m tall ground vehicle is a giant ass target why would you ever build something that is that huge god damn, maybe a ship or an aircraft, but something that moves on land holy shit man it wont be able to get anywhere and will be slow as shit. Hell trucks arent even usually 20 m long god damn
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>>13861535

Autism the post. No army is even looking into large humanoid mechas.
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>>13861552
Dude or sheDude, have you SEEN the Menzi Muck in action ?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI8FVVCuTuk
And that thing is cheap for Industrial use.
If we had the control system we would already have Patlaborish mechs.

>>13861605
I didn't say a 20m one would be useful, just that it would still be feasible even if we obviously preferred to use smaller and very useful nonhumanoid mechs.

But why do I bother ? In these thread we always meet the type who would have mocked heavier-than-air flight or anything as long as it wasn't invented yet.

>>13861608
> look at me I'm making strawman !
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>>13858824
Humans would be able to cognify moving around in a 3D space better than a jet in space.
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