Let's confirm something.
/m/ like mecha because they're cool and not really think that they are feasable or practical in real life, right?
/m/ like mecha. Beyond that, you are attempting to intrusively force your will on what the board can, will or should like.
I reject you and your miserly soul bound by gravity.
Me too. I can't think of it as an accident that /k/ has really heavy crossover with /pol/, and contains impressive numbers of the most vitriolic, spiteful racists and misogynists on 4chan. It's like regressive barbarism and militia-mindedness go hand to hand with gun ownership and hobbyism, and that both terrifies and disgusts me as a librul hippy gun-lover. They're all going to ruin it for the sane ones.
>medical care android is feasible.
Also, meido gynoids.
To be fair, some tanks are cool.
> NORAD tracks Santa Clause every christmas and really not think that a sledge flown by reindeers driven by a fat man in cold winter nights is feasable or practical in real life, right?
/m/ never claims to be real life applications board like /g/,/po/,/diy/
I enjoy things that dosen't mean I have to specify it's fictional every time when it's obvious as fuck in 1st place.
Wish we had janitors deleting waste of space like these threads.
By the way,that dosen't mean thread about plausibility should stop but question like op is just fucking redundant and loaded .
There are three "are mechs real"/"mechs can't be real" blah, blah, blah threads on catalog right now. What do these wannabe /k/ tards expect? Do you think you have discovered some unique, never before seen trolling? Are you going to make 5 threads about the giant box in mecha?
It's funny to see /k/ claim the are the arbiters of military realism, which is hilarious because they actually know very little about the military and military tactics.
Not this shit again.
>Do you think you have discovered some unique, never before seen trolling?
What part of my previous post gives you that impression?It should had been the vice versa
>Are you going to make 5 threads about the giant box in mecha?
Why would I do that?
That goes without saying.
The only real life applications are things like power armor.
I own guns and don't like /k/ either, but you need to stop throwing around words that can derail a thread.
>but you need to stop throwing around words that can derail a thread.
Oh. Well. That's true, I wasn't thinking that far. While I believe my points are valid, I think yours take priority. I'll remove it.
>/m/ like mecha because they're cool
Yes, of course, obviously.
I mean... duh?
>/m/ like mecha. Beyond that, you are attempting to intrusively force your will on what the board can, will or should like.
>I reject you and your miserly soul bound by gravity.
Some of us want spider tanks and powered armor, but in general:
Mars and space: possible by converting humanoid limbed construction exosuits or something becoming a staple due to comfort or something. The lower gravity helps, but would only stay if it found a niche or it was just more feasible to convert the construction vehicles into military units. Just don't expect it.
Earth: highly unlikely to laughable in concept that it would happen because tanks are lucky to still be used as artillery.
Giant robot are really cool though.
One only strives to be worthy of being called a /m/an.
To me, cool factor is the main ingredient in mecha, while realism is just a spice or condiment. Adding some realism to the mix can greatly enhance the cool factor, but too much realism and it's ruined. You don't want the main ingredient buried under the pile of condiments, you know.
Unless you're Van from Gun X Sword.
problems to over come why we still don't have gundams today:
problem 1: we cannot even produce anything kind of computing on par with any complex brains of today, they tried and experimented with 10000+ cpu cores and a super computer linked up VM to simulate basic full motion control of live animals last year, it took them 40 min to simulate 1 sec of a human brain, around 25 to 30 min for 1 sec of a rat
problem 2: cost of research is too much, when even MURRICA have no money for NASA to go back to the moon, what hope can you get them to make terminator into real life?
problem 3: why bother when man power is still cheap as fuck, even the army admit that it's cheaper to pay out for dead soldiers that's KIA than to keep them alive, this is why the MURRICUNT army refused to give their soldiers better armors then the piece of shit that they strap on them and make them run around getting shot in iraq
You set tank in attack position and ram their toes, Ivanov.
Stubbed toes/tentacle-tips more painful than any American waterboarding method. Very effective.
"Realism" is the most disgusting meme in media. It's just a lack of imagination and failure to sell the premise of the series.
Magic and dragons and space wizards can be the premise of a deep story. It's just people trying to be hard to be "mature" that ruin everything.
Depends to which extent. You can have a setting with absurd rules and bizarre settings, like Xabungle's Three Day Rule or some of the more insane stuff from Dune, and it can still ring true.
I don't know about the rest of this board but I like mecha because I have a massive hateboner for real world military shit and I love watching giant robots blow up tanks, jets, soldiers, etc.
Honestly I just hate /k/ in general.
I was going to but now I'm going to stay just to spite you.
>massive warboner, for wargear like tanks and SPAAGs in particular
>favorite mecha look like humanoid military tech and operate in teams, platoons or wings
come the fuck at me, pacifist fuccbois. Mecha are the ultimate expression of "Man is the means of War".
You're such a retard. What makes you think someone who likes watching shit blow up is a pacifist? I'd gladly walk over and smash your empty skull in. I hate military dipshits like you and take pleasure in seeing you mowed down like the dogs you are.
It's funny how the nation that invented them has always had such trouble building decent tanks.
Even today, the Challenger 2 lacks blowout panels.
By the time you turn fourteen you are going to cringe at the memory of having made posts like that.
Leopard 2, Leclerc, type 10 and the k2 off of the top of my head all have them.
Leo 2 still has them? I would think that anything past the A4 wouldn't be able to fit them because of the supplemental armor. K1 is still (to me) sort of in the Abrams family. Didn't know the Type 10 had them, funny that the Type 90 didn't (especially given it's Leopard-esque turret).
Battle tank model of 1972 features state of the art automatic emergency escape system. In event of hull penetration, remaining ammuniton load is utilized to launch turret clear of damaged tank hull.
>Leo 2 still has them?
Yeah, they haven't put any armor or gear over them.
>funny that the Type 90 didn't
It has them, I just forgot about it.
Any tank apart from the M1 will jack in the box if any hull-stored ammo is hit.
Mecha are better in space and air, where tanks can't go yet.
The Centurion was really good for an early MBT though.
That one Centurion that was used for a nuke test, it survived the nuke and was driven back to base under its own power.
The Chieftain had a terrible engine, which is mostly due to the people in charge not changing it for a proper diesel engine when everyone else jumped off the multi-fuel engine train after realising that its a bad idea. NATO's requirement for a multi-fuel engine at the time was retarded and the Chieftain paid the price for it with its terrible engine.
Good luck using a tracked or wheeled vehicle in a shelled out city with debris strewn about in tiny streets originally intended for foot traffic only. There is a reason infantry are still the kings of urban combat.
FYI: the army expects all major combat operations to be conducted within sprawling large cities with poor infrastructure. Sending any sort of traditional wheeled or tracked vehicle into the environment is suicide, a lesson the Israeli's learned back in the 80s.
>/m/ like mecha because they're cool and not really think that they are feasable or practical in real life, right?
No one ever "like" something because it is "feasible or practical".
Why would ANYONE think "it is feasible and practical!" is any kind of selling point? You use what is practical, but practicality isn't meant to be loved.
Why do you think people love peculiar cars and tanks that have a personality, despite having deep engineering flaws? Romanticism is not necessarily contrary to practicality, but they are generally not related.
Here is an example of a real life mecha; the SWORD system. A gun on tracks.
I generally didn't care much for the weapon, but I started to feel some attachment to the guy when I heard what got it cancelled; on the day of its demonstration in front of VIPs, it went out of control and pointed the loaded gun AT the VIPs during the trial. Thus the drone is a piece of shit and can't be trusted. But that flaw makes it cute.
>Why would ANYONE think "it is feasible and practical!" is any kind of selling point?
But when something is too stupid people stop taking it seriously. And mechas often are too stupid.
This is perfectly fine for super robot shows that never even pretended to be realistic in any way. But when you have a mecha show that tries to be a serious war drama but with giant toys fighting it just becomes silly.
>But when you have a mecha show that tries to be a serious war drama but with giant toys fighting it just becomes silly.
Having a relatively gritty portrayal war that's being fought by giant toys is part of the charm
>Good luck using a tracked or wheeled vehicle in a shelled out city with debris strewn about in tiny streets originally intended for foot traffic only. There is a reason infantry are still the kings of urban combat.
Armored vehicles are of course very vulnerable in urban terrain, but infantry alone gets fucking slaughtered in urban warfare by infantry with armored support. Unsupported infantry takes like three times the casualties.
People forget that the same ambush tactics that work on vehicles work even better on unsupported infantry, since you can use machine guns and grenades instead of rocket launchers only.
Wait, you really think humanoid robots would be any better at this? Seriously?
And traditional vehicles actually do pretty good in cities these days. Thanks to things like Trophy or Quick Kill.
Why are people talking about real life military bullshit?
Who the fuck invited /k/?
I can't believe people actually like talking about this boring ass shit. If you think war is so exciting and interesting why don't you go participate? Do the world a favor and give us 1 less idiot.
>where tanks can't go
FUCK YOU, BITCH, I DO WHAT I WANT.
Wow, he deleted his post?
Ah well, I was gonna say thatmost people asking such questions are likely A) underageb& or B) not from /m/, and if they claim to be they're still shits. "Tit for tat" in a meta sense is also fucking stupid and achieves nothing.
That's rich coming from people who find giant plastic toys interesting.
And I really love how GuP completely raped all original mecha series since CG. Shows how Nips don't care about tanks right?
nigger you best be shitposting
People on /m/ sure seem insecure when someone asks a simple question about how realistic they think their cartoons are.
The sperging out at the boogeyman board that you think is bullying you over realism is /a/ level of autism
>wow man are you going to shoot up random people in the street?
Even in this thread there are still people who believe mecha will be real. well a human size or smaller maybe but giant humanoid robot, how can anyone believe that?
> Even in this thread there are still people who believe mecha will be real.
Anyone who have looked at modern technology.
> well a human size or smaller maybe but giant humanoid robot, how can anyone believe that?
Get back there with that Goalpost mister, I'm warning you !
Put aside that exoskeletons are already a thing, not a maybe, "giant" is too vague and a humanoid is a purely aesthetic criteria with no grip on what could be.
A 20m tall humanoid mech can turn out to be technically feasible even if we actually end up preferring Octopus-mech.
Front Mission stuff looks neat, but mechs seem like they'd be scarier if they came out in real life. Robots, I'm sure someone'll find a way to make like some sort of living doll thing, but mechs? If they were just used for war, then that's lame. It'd be nice, and I'm hopeful, for some cleanup or maintenance mechs for things too dangerous for humans, which doesn't seem too far off considering all the bots we have doing that now.
do you fucking realize how big 20m is dude, a 20m tall ground vehicle is a giant ass target why would you ever build something that is that huge god damn, maybe a ship or an aircraft, but something that moves on land holy shit man it wont be able to get anywhere and will be slow as shit. Hell trucks arent even usually 20 m long god damn
Dude or sheDude, have you SEEN the Menzi Muck in action ?!
And that thing is cheap for Industrial use.
If we had the control system we would already have Patlaborish mechs.
I didn't say a 20m one would be useful, just that it would still be feasible even if we obviously preferred to use smaller and very useful nonhumanoid mechs.
But why do I bother ? In these thread we always meet the type who would have mocked heavier-than-air flight or anything as long as it wasn't invented yet.
> look at me I'm making strawman !