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(Somewhat) Feasible Mechs!

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Let's see how many mechas are somewhat-feasable-ish!
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Admittedly speaking, all of the mecha from Ryosuke Takahashi's shows, sans the Panzers [Kikou Kai (Armored World)/Panzer World Galient], though Combat Armors [Taiyou no Kiba (Fang of the Sun) Dougram] and Super-Powered Tracers [Aoi Ryuusei (Blue Comet) SPT Layzner] have to have their heights reduced to be feasible.
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>>13840046

R O B O T B I K E S
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nah lets post super robots instead
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Most feasible mech of all time.
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>>13840226
>oh god ginguiser looks nothing like the transformation
>just make it flash white and draw the finished thing
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>>13840238
What's weird is that the combined unit is definitely a combination of the four parts... it's just not in the weird-ass way depicted in the combination sequence.
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>>13840264
I have to give props to the company that somehow made modern Ginguiser figures doing that.
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>>13840264
Later in the show they give it a proper transformation sequence that actually looks alright

I'd post the webm but I'm on my phone
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Tachikomas and other Think Tanks.
The Major
Arm Slave types
Knight Sabers
Fallout Power Armor
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>>13840656
the arm slaves from FMP are cool, but in no way feasible or realistic, I might give you the tachikomas, if they had bigger feet wheels and we drop the whole can use cables to climb shit. The rest also not really feasible or even realistic..
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Tanks with legs are always the answer.
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>>13840681
All the technology, to make The Major, minus power source, exist in their infancy, right now.
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>>13840046
Robot science tank is best feasible mech.
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>>13840715

Hold on, is that from Quo Vadis?
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>>13840799

It sure is~

Can you believe they made two other kits besides Felon? Man it would be nice if a re-production run were possible.
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>b-but no one's mentioned Gasaraki yet...
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>>13840724
elaborate, because having a technology in its infancy doesnt mean its ever going to get to where you think it will. Ghost in the shell is not a very plausible depiction of the future.
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>>13840604
Ah, neat.
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I think the vess from M3 are possible but mostly for sport or construction
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:^)
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>>13840046
>completely reliant on a made-up fantasy mineral
>feasible

These things run on pure unadulterated rule of cool.
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>>13840715
>>13840799
>>13840819
>Quo Vadis
Holy shit that brings back memories
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>>13840205
Mmm what is this?
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>>13840715
>>13840799
>>13840819
>>13841170
I ve never heard about quo vadis before but it seems sweeeee-eeet
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>>13840967
I think he's talking more about the Mook variants he posted than the Bullshit Protagonist Powered machines.

I didn't even know OP's mechs were Code Geass, but goddamn are they cool.
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>>13840656
Wasn't the whole point of Arm Slaves that they weren't really feasible, but were more advanced than other tech anyway because lolwhispered?
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>>13840715
>>13840819
>>13840799
What is Quo Vadis?
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>>13841408
Yeah, it's pretty much "lol Black Technology, ain't gotta explain shit."
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>>13840046
>shitty not-gundams (more like Leos) on rollerskates
>feasible

Only in my [K]nightmares.

Most giant mechas fall prey to that pesky square/cube law and get assfucked by gravity, but going down to power-armor or exo-suit level might work. On that note: Exosquad was a cool thing. Some aspects could be feasible if you work out the power supply issues, though in-atmosphere flight is pretty much out without some Ironman-tier wizardry.
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>>13841809
People overstate the fuck out of the square-cube law. Something Knightmare-sized, or even Labor-sized, would do just fine under gravity. Hell, even something on the scale of a mobile suit isn't outside the realm of possibility with our current materials.

The issue is that it would be astronomically expensive and slow as fuck, because we don't really have a way to fit sufficiently powerful motors in the space available. But really, the main obstacle for the creation of real mecha lies in the realm of economics, not physics.
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Guntank
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>>13841291
Grey = feasible real robot
Colored = unrealistic super robot

It's that simple, guys.
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>>13841753
>>13841188

Sega Saturn (real-time non-base-building strategy?) game featuring robots. Designs are very militaristically elegant, that's the only way I can describe them.
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>>13841812
Something up to an extreme of 4m is totally possible for a combat biped (I said POSSIBLE. DARPA or the Russian Military would have the resources to pull it off), and much taller for unarmed and unarmored walking machines. I'd count the 1/1 scale Gundam movement project to be within the real of possibilty, but much more practical would be 3.5 meter tall labors and GMs for mecha paintball. It just needs the money behind it to work, the actuators and engines strong and light enough to do it exist.
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>>13841809

The Power Loader from Aliens is about a realistic as we've gotten so far.
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>>13840046
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>>13841812
Remember, the Gundam weight less than 60 tons despite being 18 meters tall.

Now, when you compare that with the BT Atlas which is about 16 meters and weights in at 100 tons...
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>>13842311
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>>13842313
Anon, I hope you don't think the random stats made up by story writers actually affects how heavy something in reality would have to be.
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>>13841184

Megazone 23
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>>13840046

The problem with mechas like those is that realistically you would pen them with 20mm. Possibly 12.7mm too.
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I've always found the TAs in Gasaraki to be the most realistically feasible looking
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>>13840819
I grabbed this kit off ebay a few years back for $30
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>>13841854
Well to be honest, those parade colours are fucking disgusting. Katoki's Loto is 10 times better.
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>>13842313
Well, how heavy is the actual gundam in Japan? Or the kuratas/megabot mk. 2
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>>13841812

So wrong. There is this magical thing called ground pressure. And it's the main reason why bipedal animals don't get too big.

Something like knightmares would have absolutely horrible ground pressure. Meaning it would be usable only on flat rock solid surface.

This is also why tiny wheels on the legs to skate simply wouldn't work. It would make the ground pressure issue even worse.

This is not even taking into account how doing the maneuvers these things do would be impossible at their size and weight. Even the best steel wouldn't last few hours of use.
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>>13840220
Was it really super tho?
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>>13843433
Let's put all of this tank's weight into four tiny pinpoints.
GENIUS
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>>13843526
found the newfag
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>>13843531
Literally the only people who use the word newfag are actual newfags, how do you guys not get this?
Also why the fuck do you respond to the biggest bait on this board?
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>>13841283

>Feasible
>Those child-bearing hips

Imagine the ridiculous ass-sway or penguin wobble that thing would have to pull in order to walk.

It's almost as bad as pic related.
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>>13844397
YOU SPEAK HERESY
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>>13844415

//Well, you can tell by the way I use my walk//Even in death: I have no time to talk//
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>>13841856
Is there any translation of it yet?
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>>13840826
>>13840068

Someone already mentioned Takahashi
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>>13844901
>yet

I don't think there will be a translation of it forever, period.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pEVVwUJi18

Shame, really.
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>>13840046
Why you people have this perception of bipedal combat mechs when it can be of any shape ?
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>>13844932

Because they're more innovative for combat.
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>>13844932

Probably because they look human so you can humanize the battles between big robots.

Even though other shapes would be much more practical.
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>>13845035
>Because they're more innovative for combat.

How come they are?

>>13845065
>Probably because they look human so you can humanize the battles between big robots.

As you have said already.

>Even though other shapes would be much more practical.

The thing is my frat-tier acquaintances with some always mock me for liking mecha while playing modern FPS saying this is how things will be .
I really need solid reason why it mecha IRL will like Gundam/Macross.
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>>13845162

They won't. Ever. It's completely impractical.

Even when we have tech and materials to make Gundams work it would be 10 times more effective to make a machine with those materials that's not a Gundam.
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>>13840046
Basquash
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>>13843411
This

If they weren't based on alien samurai ghost muscles or something
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>>13845162

>>How come they are?

Because they'll be vehicles which do close quarters combat.
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>>13845200

Why the hell would anyone want to do close quarters combat with that kind of tech?
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>>13844397
Well they're dead. They probably don't care about the wobble.
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>>13845210
Because why not, if you're already going to make stupid shit might as well have fun with it.
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>>13841408 >>13840681
> Armslave
In the novel they are said to be smaller than 8m, it's the anime that make them look 18m tall.
And yes, the technology they use come from telepathic space dolphin in the future, where the technology allow that is not normal within the context but would be later.

>>13841884
> Something up to an extreme of 4m is totally possible for a combat biped (I said POSSIBLE)

It's much more than possible, we easily have the actuators for a Patlabor-mech (I didn't said Patlabor's electric actuators), and we have the power source too, see pic.
What we don't have is : the software and UI to make one both useful and safe (because 1:1 mocaps isn't a good solution)

>>13843509
> So wrong. There is this magical thing called ground pressure. And it's the main reason why bipedal animals don't get too big.

It's righter than you are, also ground pressure isn't much in natural selection, animals don't grow too big because they aren't made of metal and fueled by better than low energy foods. It's hard to be a T-REX if there's no big & slow prey anymore.


Basic calculation : 30 tons mechs => 1m2 feet => 42.67psi (when putting pressure on one feet)

For comparison : M1 Abrams tank: 103 kPa (15 psi)
Passenger car: 205 kPa (30 psi)
Mountain bicycle: 245 kPa (40 psi)
Stiletto heel: 3,250 kPa (471 psi)
Oh and less pressure isn't always better, too low and you have no grip and slip.
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>>13844397
High-Macs actually have knees so they can walk fine unlike whatever your pic is. Besides they mainly used the wheels to move anyway.
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>>13846979

Dreadnoughts have knees. That's not the problem. Center of Mass is the problem.
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>>13840046
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>>13840046
>4m tall
>7ton weight

Paper armor and worse armament than modern APC.

I really want to know how they made traditional vehicles obsolete.
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>>13849236
Easy, when yielded by a scaled up robotic reproduction of an human hand, every weapons become over 9000time more efficient and armor is held strong at the nucleus level per the willpower of its pilot.
Edged weapon also become capable of cutting anything.

It's a known fact.

more seriously, change of doctrine and warfare paradigm could someday change the face of warfare.
Thanks to electronic guidance our war are fought without MASS SATURATION of shell and explosive, thanks to networked system Artillery or SAM can fire at target that are outside their own detection range.

For lightly armored legged vehicle to become important I see 3 incoming changes :
- Air Interdiction become critical and being able to carry and fire AA missile from any place is a plus
- Network & Detection get so efficient that it is no more a matter of detecting/outmaneuvering the enemy than carrying a wide variety of weapon ready to fire.
- Armor lose the race versus Weapon and tanking is less efficient than using surrounding as cover

Just some opinion.
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>>13845255

Can you do tanks vs. tanks easily in urbanized environments?
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>>13841812
You seem to be asking for NUMBERS, and numbers you will get.
I present to you the Atlas. This fella right here has no armor, no weapons, and a really shit engine, yet it goes up to 150kg.
If you know how to use the square cube law you will notice that it's completely unfeasible to have any mech over 12 meters that can even move, even less function mechanically.
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>>13849299
It would feature heavy infantry support to make holes in buildings for tanks to shoot through but why do that when you can just use infantry against the tanks?
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>>13849419

But with mecha, you can punch a tank in urbanized environments.
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>>13849791
Tank can into melee too.
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>>13849392
>Square cube law
>applied to something that's already made out of a lattice

Bad science in action.
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>No one has posted heavy gear or even Votoms.
C'mon.
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I like these threads because I always get to see the armchair physicists/engineers spew nonsense at each other
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>>13849886
Who is this semen demon ?

>>13849901
Ar/m/chairs are /m/.
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>>13849791
that's what i like, pilot a mech & swing a big metal punch of FUCK YOU onto anyone's face who was feared into their every inch of bones.

>>13849831
> tanks into melee
you better slap a big ass knife to the turret & bayonet charge onto enemy.
it could be effective.
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>>13840046
>>13840068
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Uziel

Swear I saw Uziel clones in various animoos.
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>>13849988
It's a grizzly, one of the heavy support mech from one of the factions of Heavy Gear, the North, than look more blocky than they arch enemie, the south, than tend to be more round like this one, the mamba, a kinda of upper grunt mech.
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The TAGs from Infinity are probably about as big as a Mecha could feasibly be.
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>>13850565
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