>>13832245 There's about three scenes worth watching in the entire season of try The first minute of the first episode sekai's gaylord fight vs edgelord mcgee and the build fighters try s2 preview (hey guys we totally didnt forget about zakus)
>>13832245 It isn't that bad in general, but is worse than original build fighters in every way. Part of the reason for this is that many of the great staff from S1 were not present for S2. Don't remember what they went off to work on instead
>>13832267 >Part of the reason for this is that many of the great staff from S1 were not present for S2.
A bigger reason is that it had less than 6 months of production time. It hurt the animation, the story (less editing and rewriting), and some of the staff were already too busy working on other projects to come back for more BF.
And then on top of all that Ral's VA had old man problems and was hospitalized.
>>13832189 it was surprisingly mediocre as well and predictable great designs, but did every every fucking match have to be build knuckle, or blow-for-blow cliche trades followed by build knuckle? Kampfer fight at least had some semblance of ingenuity and skill shown by both parties
>>13832367 >but did every every fucking match have to be build knuckle, or blow-for-blow cliche trades followed by build knuckle? Technically that only started really happening around episode like 16 I think
>>13832265 Sekai fighting Jagi was only really good for having a dude using MMA to body Chicken What'sup.
The finisher might've been cool if it wasn't extracted straight from Sekai's rectum and wasn't the exact same thing he did every fight but with more colors. Build Knuckle was by itself more diverse than Sekai's entire moveset.
>Build Fighters >good cast with great character development, even if it normally meant they lose the same episode >Reiji went from guy playing gunpla to pay back a roll he stole to truly appreciating it >Built his own gunpla and understood Sei better and appreciated gunpla more because of it >Several sub-plots such as what are the particles made out of, what is Arian, why does the chairman hate Reiji so much, ect. >Flows nicely >Fights feel organic and neat, RG System got a little repetitive near the end though
>Try >Little to no good characters or development >Best scene was when the previously established Meijin and new Meijin with boobs beat the shit out of the other two main characters >No subplot, at all. Just goes from fight to fight >Sekai gains no appreciation for gunpla, just uses it as an outlet for his martial arts >Chicken How're You wins almost every fight in the same manner >Takes the same amount of time to beat nationals as BF did to finish the world championship
I forgive build knuckle because at least there was a lot more going on with the characters than just LOL HERO WIN KNOW.
Ive said it so many times I really should just save it for a copy paste but it's most obvious in Aila's fight.
It's not about the actual battle, it's about her and Reiji's relationship. It's about her breaking free from the people who are using her. It's about her overcoming all of her problems and not only moving past them but finding something she can be happy about and people who can make her happy.
Yeah it was silly she couldn't dodge a punch at the last minute but character and story where strong enough to make up for that and losing the fight was far better for her growth as a person because she realized she doesn't have to be a pawn.
That's why Build Knuckle is okay if cliche and Chiken How Are you is just lame.
>>13832245 It just failed to capture the magic again, and the forced three v three didn't do any favors for fights.
It starts off promising, not as great as BF, but once it hits the gunpla academy it turns to shit aside from Meijin stuff. Then out of no where it had a good Finale episode after a ton of crap, sans Tryon 3 that was good.
That and I feel as if it took it's self too damn seriously especially the second half, I mean BF could do that as well, but they seemed to make a joke of it more, and most people seemed to be having more fun, while it was important to them to win yes, it didn't as...I don't know I can't really quantify it, the atmosphere of the tournament and interactions between competitories just isn't as upbeat. Hell at times it feels like everyone has a stick up their ass and is liable to pull it out and beat the fuck out of you with it. I mean some try hards here and there are fine, but shit when everyone sans a handful of character is one, it sucks the damn fun out of it.
>>13834526 Even as a shonen tournament show, Try is absolutely dire. It pulls every cliche straight, has an overly large cast of characters that are both boring to watch and flatter than cardboard, abuses the fuck out of stock animation, doesn't make proper use of the few strengths it had, and above all fails to really sell you on the merchandise because you're too busy crying bullshit to think the robots look cool.
One thing people forget is how meaningful fights were in BF
It wasn't just all and now fight team X who has one member with trite backstory, it would all play into a theme, character development or add to the overarching plot. Early on there were times we didn't even see the opponent as the episode wasn't about them it was about Sei and Reiji working together and becoming close. It even bent the competition to fit this even when it was silly. Reiji has hurt his hand? Make the fight about him pitching a ball, it draws focus to his problem in the episode and means they can base everything around it. We don't need some drawn out backstroy about the other guy, he doesn't need to be evil. All they do is show him earlier and then add oh he is a pitcher, it's goofy but that is fine and all they need cause they didn't need an intense rivalry there.
It is the type of thing you may not notice as it is so simple but it is very important to what makes BF work. It is an incredibly solid show that feels well thought out.
>>13837821 I'm assuming it's the references to Gundam lore and how everybody had an OTP
I'll admit, the OTP part is something I personally liked and something other people in /gbfg/ liked because of how rare it is, however I saw fit to mention it because Try had a bunch of romcom/harem shenanigans nobody was a fan of, that said, it is technically irrelevant
However, if you're saying the Gundam lore references are irrelevant too, absolutely not. Those things made the show. Like it or not, when GBF was airing, it was always a game to see what series would cameo next or what suit never seen animated could appear or what have you. Don't you remember the reaction to Ral-san not just showing up and not just being voiced by his old actor, but actually showing up frequently and being a mentor? Everybody loved Ral-san
It was a very unique and fun part of the viewing experience and Try had none of it
>>13833613 >>13838156 He was something of a plot device but he also added to the world as he showed how far some too gundam.
In Try is just felt like oh, we are doing this again? Even with the VA in hospital? He felt like an unneeded carry over and as literally everyone pointed out if they did feel like they needed that character make it Master Asia
Did he go into the hospital before or after they started production? Because even in those early episodes his inclusions was weird at best and unsettling at worst.
In BF it's pretty innocent as he's a friend of the family and all that jazz but there's just something "Not right" about a old ass man hanging around children's hobby shops, playing games against children and going to the school where he's neither or a teacher or has no children attending come Try.
>>13841279 I believe he was replaced at the end of BF cause he was in and out so much, I may be wrong
It's the school one that really seems weird. Hobby shop is where you buy stuff and in that world everyone buys gunpla so understandable. Same with battle, it's like with competitive video games you get a mix of the old and new. But he literally turned up out of no where in Try, Fumina sort of new him I think but it never really gets expanded on. And it's silly cause all they needed to do was say he was the clubs coach employeed by the school cause he is a veteran of the sport, outside voluntary help for clubs isn't so unusual
>>13837839 >All they do is show him earlier and then add oh he is a pitcher, it's goofy but that is fine and all they need cause they didn't need an intense rivalry there. The best part is even tertiary characters like Dalara where treated with respect; they lost, but still stayed there in the background, along with all the other world players. Meanwhile, in Try you have the swimming team in the opening for no reason.
>>13841314 The swimming team was such an odd bait and switch. As a joke it works fine but the show seriously suffered from lacking time to develop characters yet they did this anyway.
Though really Try should have had enough time to do it. BF managed to do so much side stuff and it helped the show a great deal. Really early on Sei and Reiji in the tournament wasn't the focus at all, they spend a great deal of time setting everything else up so when the second half is more focused it still feels nicely fleshed out and set up
>>13841166 The age-diverse cast was important though. Kids tournament shows pretty much never have anyone over the teenage age playing in them. There are some like Yu-Gi-Oh but it's not particularly wide-spread and they certainly aren't main or major secondary characters
GBF had a bunch of adults, not just for older appeal but to show the people who were in this for a long time, just like the real life long-time fans of Gunpla. The adult characters were among the more well liked characters. We wouldn't have gotten the Fellini episode wouldn't hit as hard, we wouldn't get the NTR squad full of old ronery men and more importantly, the older masters probably wouldn't have been a thing
Try, with its "Under-19 only bullshit" completely gets rid of this unique aspect
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