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I just finished binge watching all of Eureka 7 and god damn did

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I just finished binge watching all of Eureka 7 and god damn did I love this show. The music, the romance, the Kawamori mecha, the beautifully animated action scenes. It was a great ride even if there were a few questions I had unanswered like why only Nirvash and The End showed any signs of sentience. Should I bother watching the sequel anime or the movie? I've heard some very mixed things about them.
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I like the part where Holland abuses Renton for unjustified reasons and nobody ever tells Renton what the hell is going on for unjustified reasons.
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>>13823623
That's part of Holland's character development. The man was carrying a lot of emotional stress so he takes it out on Renton. There's a scene later after he kills Charles where he breaks down and starts crying while calling himself pathetic. He does stop and becomes a better character after that. As for not telling Renton everything right away I always figured it was because everyone treated him like a kid and didn't trust him enough yet.
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>>13823623
I felt like they kept distance from Renton because they're entitled killers. Righteous as they may be, the last thing they needed was a young man who was still a child. If Renton and the Nirvash didn't chive, he'd probably of been thrown overboard. Wait, wasn't he thrown out once or twice? I know he left the crew for a time.

Also: What could make coral so hostile?
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>>13823657
>As for not telling Renton everything right away I always figured it was because everyone treated him like a kid and didn't trust him enough yet.
Renton was a pilot. He was endangering the entire crew and their mission by not giving him the big picture. Not to mention all the other Gecko State members did this, too.
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>>13823617
>I just finished binge watching all of Eureka 7 and god damn did I love this show
Goddamn your tastes is fucking shit
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>>13823731
>Wait, wasn't he thrown out once or twice?
He was never thrown out but he did run away once. Honestly Renton was a shit a lot of the times. He'd take the Nirvash without permission constantly.
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>>13823617
>why only Nirvash and The End showed any signs of sentience.
The Nirvashes are closer to "human" like Eureka, I think.
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>>13823810
I guess that would explain it.
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Eureka Seven is one of those series that looks a lot better if you ignore the plot and focus on character interactions.
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>>13824008
>focus on character interactions.
That's even worse, everyone is either whiney or a jerk.
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How come Nirvash didn't keep the rifle?
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I'm 3/4th of the way through it and so far it's okay. The first half really dragged on at times but things have picked up so far in the second half now that shit's starting to get explained. The character interaction and development is, for the most part, solid if a bit heavy-handed with the mellodrama at times and the romance is handled miles better than your average /m/ show. If nothing else, they really captured what it's like to be a lovestruck 14-year-old boy. The science fictions elements aren't explained very well though and were just kind of piled on in the beginning of the second half, but I can let that slide somewhat since it mostly just serves as dressing to the characters.

The mecha fights are nice looking and the character animation is generally above average, though there's the occasional QUALITY scene but at 51 episodes that's to be expected. The soundtrack is a definite highlight of the series, it perfectly complements each scene and is just a blast to listen to even on its own. Storywriter in particular has definitely entered my regular song rotation. I'm watching the dub because I didn't even realize Netflix had the Japanese track until ten episodes in. It's a not big deal though because it's a pretty solid affair. Renton and Eureka were kind of weak for the first thirteen or so episodes as JYB struggled to find his teenager voice and Stephanie Sheh sounded like she was trying to stick a bit too close to the Japanese VA, but after that they've been almost flawless. The kids sound like annoying little shits but hey, they are annoying little shits so I can't blame the dubbing team.

Unless the last fourth of the show makes a big swerve in quality, I'd give E7 a nice, solid 3 1/2 stars. Not the greatest thing I've ever watched but I don't regret my time with it at all.

Dewey has done literally nothing wrong
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>>13824847
Guns are bad.

I guess conceivably they couldn't resupply, but don't think too hard about that one. In the games the 505s never use handheld guns for no particular reason anyways.
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Are the PS2 games any good?
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>>13824847
Because guns=Eureka back in her kill them all days.
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>>13824986
I guess that makes sense. I wish the PS2 games emulated well. They run fine in battle but whenever I'm on the map controlling the Sumner the framerate drops to 40.
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>>13824944
The dub is fucking fantastic. I'd say it's superior to the original by a mile. Also, the show doesn't dip in the finale. The last 10 episodes are fucking amazing, so if anything the those might bump your score up some.

>>13823617
The movie is alternative timeline so there's no harm in watching it, just be prepared for disappointment. It does have good music though.

AO, the sequel, is offensively bad and ruins the original story. I just ignore it. Nobody from the original series makes an appearance, or are referenced except Renton/Eureka. This isn't hyperbole either. It's detest by the fanbase for a reason.

If you want more Eureka seveN there's the movie, manga and light novels which are all alternative universes, but not that great.

Gravity Boy & Lifting Girl Manga>New Wave PS2 Game>New Vision PS2 Game>Eureka Seven>Eureka Seven AO is the canon timeline if you care.

>>13824991
No, they're terrible. They look like shit, play like shit and the dub is shit. If you want some backstory just watch a YouTube playthrough or something.
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>>13824991
There are fun elements to them and the world building is nice but they aren't particularly good. It tries to do a lot of different modes (RPG exploration, ground combat, on foot combat, aerial combat, ref board racing) at once and none of them end up great. The on foot shooting sequences are particularly half-assed and for every neat bit of setting and backstory you get there also tends to be one utterly retarded looking and acting character or completely laughable disco rave or something.

>>13825132
A lot of the main characters are dubbed pretty well but the standard isn't high across the board. Replaced music is a shit though.
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Anyways quality of his game aside Sumner is a fucking cool guy who does cool things.
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The movie was fucking weird. It was like they came up with their own original story and some executive said "Hey, let's make it an E7 movie" and so they had to slap E7's characters and setting over it at the last second.

It's so different from the series, I'd actually have enjoyed it more if it was its own thing.
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>>13825199
Terminus line is sex.
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>>13825132
>The dub is fucking fantastic. I'd say it's superior to the original by a mile. Also, the show doesn't dip in the finale. The last 10 episodes are fucking amazing, so if anything the those might bump your score up some.
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>>13825275
Spearheads, bruh
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>>13825279
Spearheads are cool too.
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Gundam X and Vifam told the same story much better. E7 is only liked by nostalgiafags and newshits.
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>>13825132
>The last 10 episodes are fucking amazing, so if anything the those might bump your score up some.
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>>13825293
Holy shit, a Saga image. I wish /co/ would talk about this shit.

>>13825275
909 was the shit. Liked its design the most. The Mon-Soonos and the 808 were bulky and not erotic at all.
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>>13825286
>Gundam X
>Better than anything

Found the hipster-shitster.
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>>13824944
>Unless the last fourth of the show makes a big swerve in quality, I'd give E7 a nice, solid 3 1/2 stars.
Boy are you in for a surprise. E7 is a 6/10 for me but that ending makes it.
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Most underrated character.
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If there are no trapars in space, why did Holland need a refboard for his LFO?
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>>13825354
The board does have thrusters.
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>>13825334
You mean overrated?
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>>13825132
>>13825313
>this whole episode

I wish the finale was just as good.
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>>13825406
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>>13825408
This was really the first episode where the Gekkostate actually had their shit together on every level. The "fuck yeah" moment at the end where they all give Dewey a collective middle finger and ride off into the sunset was great.

>>13825410
I'm still kind of pissed there was never a type Zero/theEND team-up fight against the big bad. But I can live with it.
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>>13825443
It was pretty awesome.
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>>13825406
Anemone had the best facial expressions. Kenichi Yoshida is one of the better character designers out there.
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>>13823657
>>13823731
Holland was afraid of Renton because he was stealing Eureka from him. Holland thought he was supposed to be Eureka's chosen partner to cross the great wall with. He was acting even more childish than Renton, and only when he admitted that he wasn't the super star of the show did he start to get better and actually be a team player.

And the coral wasn't hostile, it just wanted to communicate everyone to death.

>>13823789
And every time he did take out the Nirvash on his own, he ended up saving everyone's lives only to get treated like shit in return.
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>>13825305
Yes its better than E7 and a number of Gundam titles.
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When that nigger kid pulls the gun on renton is when i gave up on this shit
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>>13825406
There's literally no reason to care about this romance since it came out of nowhere or these characters since she was a bitch throughout the majority of the show and Dominic was a faggot.
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>>13825524
>and Dominic was a faggot
No, YOU'RE a faggot.
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Best Macross since Plus.
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>>13825515
If you want to shill Gundam X make your own thread.
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>>13823617
>Should I bother watching the sequel anime or the movie?

No, and no.

The movie seems like it was once it's own original story, then some idiot decided to slap E7's characters over it. It doesn't fit at all. It just feels jarring and weird since the plot is COMPLETELY fucking different than that of the series (it's some parallel universe/"what if" alternate story bullshit). Characters act differently than they did in the series and I felt like my fond memories of it had become corrupted by this movie. It actually hurt my appreciate for the original series. It doesn't add or contribute to it at all. The movie would have been better had it been its own series...

... and the same could be said for AO, the sequel show. AO draws so very little from the original series. There's barely any connection to Eureka Seven, and when the two shows do connect, its depressing and contradictory. Renton and Eureka are the only characters who show up in AO, and they do so for only a few brief moments. It's so unsatisfying.
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>>13825354
>dat 303 Devilfish
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Now go watch Raxephon and report back to us.
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Did the whole scub coral plot remind anyone else of Solaris?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solaris_%281972_film%29

I know some people on /m/ have read the original book as well. I read a pretty cool analysis/comparison of E7 and Solaris a while back that made a lot of sense.
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>>13825570
Everything from when the Gekko swoops down to save the day to when Holland rams the bridge had me on edge. Devilfish was fuckin invincible.
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>>13825493
unfffff
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>>13825542
>>13825557
Great argument
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>>13825590
gr8 b8
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>>13825562
>it's some parallel universe/"what if" alternate story bullshit
You really didn't get the point of the movie, did you?

You know how people theorize about Rebuild of Eva being a sequel? The Eureka Seven movie -is- a sequel, and a goddamn better one than Astral Ocean even putting aside the overall quality of both of them. It can't exist without the TV series and it pays homage to the TV series.

I mean the Gekko crew gets fucked over by it and it's hardly the best made thing ever but it's meta concept is great.
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>>13825638
You're a fucking idiot.
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>>13825792
Sure you could do the plot stand alone but the movie has like no meaning on its own. Which is to an extent the problem with it.

But it's not an alternate version, it's a spin off universe where the plot involves trying to reach the original and the resolution is tied to the importance of events in the original. It's not a story "of" Eureka Seven it's a story -about- Eureka Seven.
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Storywriter is one of the best insert songs ever.
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>>13825953
The whole fucking E7 OST is baller as fuck. It's dynamic, heartfelt, powerful, goofy, all at the right times.
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>>13825524
I kept thinking Dominic was gonna try fucking Renton over, but it never happened. I thought he was going to be some huge villain for Anemone, but deep in his heart he always thought of himself as a seigi no mikata or something. Stupid whiteknight faggot. To be perfectly honest, I don't think I've ever been happier with how a character arc turned out.

So fuck you, bitch nigger.
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>>13825573
Also Blood Music by Greg Bear. But that should have been made obvious by Dr. "Bear"
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>>13823810
I want to be anemonemonemonemonemonemonemones cockpit
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>>13826260
Would have been much more interesting than what we got.
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>>13823617
>binge watching
>Eureka 7
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The Mon-Soono really looked like it was from Armored Core. Which makes sense considering the designer.
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>>13823657
No, by acting like a man child and taking his frustration out on Renton he just endangered his mission and and just pushed Renton away, which is why Renton left, and was why he was justified in leaving.
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>>13828347
I was so fucking confused for the first half of the series until the finally explained why the LFOs bleed. I thought the KLF pilots had like 100 gallons of blood or something.
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>>13828361
Same here. Either that or red oil.
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AO wasn't that bad.
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>>13829139
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjUHQqJ1LQo
Days is the best mecha OP. So relaxing.
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>>13829783
I just wish there was an instrumental version of this remix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Qg412kLafs
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>>13825275
>>13825279
>>13825283
>>13825303
>>13825408
>>13825475
>>13826922
its been a long time since I last saw eureka 7 and i'd forgotten how interesting a lot of the LFO's looked. I only ever remember nirvash which i never really liked
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>>13825303
/co/ doesn't read comics. Besides Saga got the One Punch Man treatment.
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>>13823810
>>13823985
Except that doesn't make any sense, you fucking retards.
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Movie design of Nirvash was weird.
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>>13831354
Looking pretty Star Driver there, Nirvash.
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>>13831354
To be fair, Spec 3 was pretty different as well.
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>>13831390
More closely resembles the archetype they built around in the first place, though.
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>>13831390
But cool.
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>>13831485
Why is the Gekko such a perfect ship? Aesthetically, at least.
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>>13832340
Because Kawamori.
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>>13832375
>stopping the webm at the best part
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>>13832396
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>>13832449
>>13832375
The Ginga got wrecked so easily. Can't tell if because it was weak or because the Gekko and Holland were too good.
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>>13832449
>>13832375
The Gekko swooping in to save the day is one of the most fuckyeah moments in any mecha.
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>>13832718
God I love that ship.
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>>13831485
>Gunbuster theme plays in my head at this moment
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>>13832754
I just wish there had been an Izumo/Gekko team attack scene.
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>>13832774
Even the Nirvash's beam sounded like Gunbuster's.
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>>13831485
>>13832795
This sequence made the entire series worth it. I don't care if every mecha anime has dumb bullshit like this, I could watch it over and over and over again.
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Anyone here play the fangame Lift? It's pretty fun and the lifting mechanics are kinda cool. I never did figure out how to host a multiplayer server though.
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>>13825077
>aim directly at the crowd
>shoot way over their head
>the ground explode anyway
every time
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>>13825077
They're terrible anyway.

>>13833103
Clearly the fire control system is fucked. It fires exactly where you'd expect considering it's holding the rifle perfectly level.
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>>13833119
The LFO combat seemed fine it was everything else I hated.
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>>13833068
If stuff like that happens without proper build-up, then it's just dumb bullshit. Moments like those need to be earned.
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>>13833130
Everything about this episode was great. Especially the music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cta1ThEccG8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aUSc5Oqblg
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>>13826922

Highly underrated design.

The MS-10 and the MS-20 were amazingly well designed mook mecha, especially when you consider how neat their pilot suit looks.
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>>13830706

Do you completely forget that the Nirvash was intended as an guardian for their ambassador?

The Nirvash has the 2nd best possible interface with humanity simply because humans connect with their machinery.

Ding a guy's BMW, and he shouts "You hit me!"; That kind of empathy and personification was incredibly useful for Eureka and Renton's bonding. That's why the Nirvash adapts to a single cockpit: It's playing wingman/bodyguard for Eureka.
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>>13831944

I always love how he makes it look effortless.

Picks a tad more speed, inverts and drops. That wasn't a maneuver for him, that was simply engaging.
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>>13833194
Are you saying you shouldn't beg for things?
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>>13833405
And then there was that whole "think of Nirvash as a female friend" scene.
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Anybody got a DDL for the OST? Kinda want to go back and listen to it again
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>>13833448
>>13833405

Even better; Remember the context?

Nirvash was trying to get Eureka to get over the whole "Renton's just as good a pilot as you are" thing.

>"You know I love you gurl, but grow the fuck up. I'm allowed to have guyfriends too. Oh no. Don't you try cutting him out; We'll go lifting and I'll leave your ass to sulk.
>"Don't you walk away from me; I'll leave tire marks on your ass... You'll be back! You know I'm always right! I'm a fucking magic alien robot!"
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>>13833472
Nirvash was such a moody bitch sometimes.
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I read a synopsis for the movie and damn does it sound awful.
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>>13823617
Leave the show as it is. Don't watch AO. Some things are better left alone.
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>>13825517
Wasn't that like three quarters of the way through the show, though?

I really don't remember a whole lot of specifics, I watched it like ten years ago. Inspired me to read The Golden Bough. Good shit.
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>>13837073
It happened like episode 45 so way more than 3/4's through of the show.
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If this anime show was devoted to Anemone and Dominic, it would be great, but in its current form is nonsense any ...

Besides, I was always on the side of the crew "Izumo" and the pilot "Mon Soono" - cheers warriors
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>>13825517
The ten episodes before the last two or three are honestly some of the worst, most contrived bullshit ever, but there's a huge payoff if you can make it past that.

I do like the irony in Eureka saying that her loving Renton wasn't going to make her abandon the kids, with the finale having her abandoning the kids.
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>>13837378
from a distance I thought I was looking at Bellri and Aida
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>>13838967
Same character designer
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Victory Gundam was better
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>>13838985
>edgy gundam
>good
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>>13838953
>Notvash
>Gundam
>Sexysix
What's the one on far left?
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>>13840527
The 808.
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>>13840535
I don't remember this one at all.
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>>13823617
Eureka 7 draws in all of the favorable aspects of anime and ties them all together; action, romance, art design, OST, fighting choreography, character development, etc. I wouldn't say It is the only anime I've come across that I actually enjoy watching, but I haven't found anything that comes remotely close to the series.

As for the sequel, it was mediocre, doesn't add much to the story, you may be dissapointed in what you find.

The movie was straight garbage, reused animation, dialogue was ridiculous, not really sure what BONES intentions were.
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>>13833198
Easily the best episode in the series.

The colored clouds were a very odd but interesting phenomenon, I can't remember why or how they were formed, especially in the midst of the air battle.
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>>13840786
>but I haven't found anything that comes remotely close to the series.
You seriously need to lurk moar
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>>13840786
>As for the sequel, it was mediocre, doesn't add much to the story, you may be dissapointed in what you find.
So its just like Eureka 7.
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>>13840786
>but I haven't found anything that comes remotely close to the series.
Just about everything it ripped off is superior. E7 is a perfect example of the whole is greater than the sum of its parts.
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>>13840821
It didn't rip anything off, idiot.
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>>13840908
>If I haven't seen it it means it didn't rip it off
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>>13840911
>doesn't list any examples
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I like the first part of the series, but after Ray dies, it quickly crawls into it's own ass with a deluge of stupid metaphysical bullshit (like the random Buddhist monks that have TEH SEKRET to the Coral) and only gets out of that for the ending.
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>>13840916
>Please spoonfed me
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>>13840668
Did you forget there's a black woman in the show too?

606 was the scout, 909 was the all rounder/commander unit (it's the closest to the 505, which is the most versatile and common Terminus but seems to be higher performance, harder to pilot, and less customizable) and 808 is the heavy support unit with limited operating time that's pilot has a relatively important other job so it shows up the least but dude.
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>>13840944
This fucking guy.
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>>13840821
so other than maybe Evangelion?
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>>13840921
This is true, they could of took a different route, or at least made it 3 seasons instead of 4
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>>13841040
>>13840973
Are you for real or are you just pretending to be stupid?
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>>13841047

>calling others stupid
>still not giving examples
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>>13840951
>Did you forget there's a black woman in the show too?
No anon, because the black women got screen time.
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My first experience with the concept of waifus was way back in late '06 when a smallish Invision forum was a regular haunt of mine. One of the more regular members was a dude who was absolutely obsessed with Eureka to the point where he had completely tapped out of relationships with actual girls. He was so delusional in his waifuism that he was fully convinced that Eureka was real and that one day they would meet and fall in love. Everything with him was what Eureka would like and what he and Eureka would do together and how beautiful and perfect in every way Eureka is.

I hadn't seen Eureka Seven at that point and it really put me off the series for a long time because it reminded me of that guy.
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>>13843894
It's weird to waifu a girl that already has a partner.
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>>13843911

If I recall, he either identified strongly with Renton or was convinced Eureka was too good for Renton and he would make a better partner for her.

This same guy wrote a eulogy when one of his Kamen Rider Kabuto toys broke. You seriously can't make this shit up.
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>>13843929
>was convinced Eureka was too good for Renton and he would make a better partner for her

I think you might have been conversing with this guy.
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God damn the OST is fucking amazing.

https://youtu.be/8CgtRvaQ6_8
https://youtu.be/ZTAkxiPkxGQ
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>>13846856
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T9Yygju9IY
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How are the models? I kinda want the 909.
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Anyone else cream their pants when Oratorio Number 8 fired at full power?

I would fallow Dewey to the ends of the earth
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>>13851072
Where the hell did he get that thing anyway? I remember hearing them talk about some ancient space elevator or some shit and then he just had a super weapon out of nowhere.
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Cant remember exactly but weren't they building it towards the end with Holland trying to stall it or something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLJ9NQPYBe8
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>>13851113
You forgot one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2hf_R-sYww
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I did not understand shit about this show
Why our old earth is inside another earth?
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>>13851357
To make it short an alien race landed on earth years ago and tried to merge themselves with humans and the land since this is how they communicate. Eventually they merged with the entire earth and covered it completely which is the land you see for most of the series. Humanity returns 10,000 years later thinking it's a new planet when it's actually earth, The government kept this a secret to avoid any problems.
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>>13851400
could you refresh my memory a little(I watched this show like 5 years ago)

The robots are alive and they're these aliens right?
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>>13851551
The robots have frames made from excavated humanoid alien bodies found underground but not all of them are alive. Only Nirvash and The End have been shown to move on their own.
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>>13851631
didn't know nirvash could move his eye
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>>13846856

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHP_9heGEKo

the entire OST of Eureka 7 is Godlike.
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