I just finished binge watching all of Eureka 7 and god damn did I love this show. The music, the romance, the Kawamori mecha, the beautifully animated action scenes. It was a great ride even if there were a few questions I had unanswered like why only Nirvash and The End showed any signs of sentience. Should I bother watching the sequel anime or the movie? I've heard some very mixed things about them.
That's part of Holland's character development. The man was carrying a lot of emotional stress so he takes it out on Renton. There's a scene later after he
kills Charleswhere he breaks down and starts crying while calling himself pathetic. He does stop and becomes a better character after that. As for not telling Renton everything right away I always figured it was because everyone treated him like a kid and didn't trust him enough yet.
I felt like they kept distance from Renton because they're entitled killers. Righteous as they may be, the last thing they needed was a young man who was still a child. If Renton and the Nirvash didn't chive, he'd probably of been thrown overboard. Wait, wasn't he thrown out once or twice?
I know he left the crew for a time.
What could make coral so hostile?
>As for not telling Renton everything right away I always figured it was because everyone treated him like a kid and didn't trust him enough yet.
Renton was a pilot. He was endangering the entire crew and their mission by not giving him the big picture. Not to mention all the other Gecko State members did this, too.
>Wait, wasn't he thrown out once or twice?
He was never thrown out but he did run away once. Honestly Renton was a shit a lot of the times. He'd take the Nirvash without permission constantly.
>why only Nirvash and The End showed any signs of sentience.
The Nirvashes are closer to "human" like Eureka, I think.
I'm 3/4th of the way through it and so far it's
okay. The first half really dragged on at times but things have picked up so far in the second half now that shit's starting to get explained. The character interaction and development is, for the most part, solid if a bit heavy-handed with the mellodrama at times and the romance is handled miles better than your average /m/ show. If nothing else, they really captured what it's like to be a lovestruck 14-year-old boy. The science fictions elements aren't explained very well though and were just kind of piled on in the beginning of the second half, but I can let that slide somewhat since it mostly just serves as dressing to the characters.
The mecha fights are nice looking and the character animation is generally above average, though there's the occasional QUALITY scene but at 51 episodes that's to be expected. The soundtrack is a definite highlight of the series, it perfectly complements each scene and is just a blast to listen to even on its own. Storywriter in particular has definitely entered my regular song rotation.
I'm watching the dub because I didn't even realize Netflix had the Japanese track until ten episodes in. It's a not big deal though because it's a pretty solid affair. Renton and Eureka were kind of weak for the first thirteen or so episodes as JYB struggled to find his teenager voice and Stephanie Sheh sounded like she was trying to stick a bit too close to the Japanese VA, but after that they've been almost flawless. The kids sound like annoying little shits but hey, they are annoying little shits so I can't blame the dubbing team.
Unless the last fourth of the show makes a big swerve in quality, I'd give E7 a nice, solid 3 1/2 stars. Not the greatest thing I've ever watched but I don't regret my time with it at all.
Dewey has done literally nothing wrong
Guns are bad.
I guess conceivably they couldn't resupply, but don't think too hard about that one. In the games the 505s never use handheld guns for no particular reason anyways.
I guess that makes sense. I wish the PS2 games emulated well. They run fine in battle but whenever I'm on the map controlling the Sumner the framerate drops to 40.
The dub is fucking fantastic. I'd say it's superior to the original by a mile. Also, the show doesn't dip in the finale. The last 10 episodes are fucking amazing, so if anything the those might bump your score up some.
The movie is alternative timeline so there's no harm in watching it, just be prepared for disappointment. It does have good music though.
AO, the sequel, is offensively bad and ruins the original story. I just ignore it. Nobody from the original series makes an appearance, or are referenced except Renton/Eureka. This isn't hyperbole either. It's detest by the fanbase for a reason.
If you want more Eureka seveN there's the movie, manga and light novels which are all alternative universes, but not that great.
Gravity Boy & Lifting Girl Manga>New Wave PS2 Game>New Vision PS2 Game>Eureka Seven>Eureka Seven AO is the canon timeline if you care.
No, they're terrible. They look like shit, play like shit and the dub is shit. If you want some backstory just watch a YouTube playthrough or something.
There are fun elements to them and the world building is nice but they aren't particularly good. It tries to do a lot of different modes (RPG exploration, ground combat, on foot combat, aerial combat, ref board racing) at once and none of them end up great. The on foot shooting sequences are particularly half-assed and for every neat bit of setting and backstory you get there also tends to be one utterly retarded looking and acting character or completely laughable disco rave or something.
A lot of the main characters are dubbed pretty well but the standard isn't high across the board. Replaced music is a shit though.
Anyways quality of his game aside Sumner is a fucking cool guy who does cool things.
The movie was fucking weird. It was like they came up with their own original story and some executive said "Hey, let's make it an E7 movie" and so they had to slap E7's characters and setting over it at the last second.
It's so different from the series, I'd actually have enjoyed it more if it was its own thing.
>The dub is fucking fantastic. I'd say it's superior to the original by a mile. Also, the show doesn't dip in the finale. The last 10 episodes are fucking amazing, so if anything the those might bump your score up some.
>The last 10 episodes are fucking amazing, so if anything the those might bump your score up some.
Holy shit, a Saga image. I wish /co/ would talk about this shit.
909 was the shit. Liked its design the most. The Mon-Soonos and the 808 were bulky and not erotic at all.
>Unless the last fourth of the show makes a big swerve in quality, I'd give E7 a nice, solid 3 1/2 stars.
Boy are you in for a surprise. E7 is a 6/10 for me but that ending makes it.
If there are no trapars in space, why did Holland need a refboard for his LFO?
>this whole episode
I wish the finale was just as good.
This was really the first episode where the Gekkostate actually had their shit together on every level. The "fuck yeah" moment at the end where they all give Dewey a collective middle finger and ride off into the sunset was great.
I'm still kind of pissed there was never a type Zero/theEND team-up fight against the big bad. But I can live with it.
Anemone had the best facial expressions. Kenichi Yoshida is one of the better character designers out there.
Holland was afraid of Renton because he was stealing Eureka from him. Holland thought he was supposed to be Eureka's chosen partner to cross the great wall with. He was acting even more childish than Renton, and only when he admitted that he wasn't the super star of the show did he start to get better and actually be a team player.
the coral wasn't hostile, it just wanted to communicate everyone to death.
And every time he did take out the Nirvash on his own, he ended up saving everyone's lives only to get treated like shit in return.
There's literally no reason to care about this romance since it came out of nowhere or these characters since she was a bitch throughout the majority of the show and Dominic was a faggot.
>and Dominic was a faggot
No, YOU'RE a faggot.
If you want to shill Gundam X make your own thread.
>Should I bother watching the sequel anime or the movie?
No, and no.
The movie seems like it was once it's own original story, then some idiot decided to slap E7's characters over it. It doesn't fit at all. It just feels jarring and weird since the plot is COMPLETELY fucking different than that of the series (it's some parallel universe/"what if" alternate story bullshit). Characters act differently than they did in the series and I felt like my fond memories of it had become corrupted by this movie. It actually hurt my appreciate for the original series. It doesn't add or contribute to it at all. The movie would have been better had it been its own series...
... and the same could be said for AO, the sequel show. AO draws so very little from the original series. There's barely any connection to Eureka Seven, and when the two shows do connect, its depressing and contradictory. Renton and Eureka are the only characters who show up in AO, and they do so for only a few brief moments. It's so unsatisfying.
Did the whole scub coral plot remind anyone else of Solaris?
I know some people on /m/ have read the original book as well. I read a pretty cool analysis/comparison of E7 and Solaris a while back that made a lot of sense.
Everything from when the Gekko swoops down to save the day to when Holland rams the bridge had me on edge. Devilfish was fuckin invincible.
>it's some parallel universe/"what if" alternate story bullshit
You really didn't get the point of the movie, did you?
You know how people theorize about Rebuild of Eva being a sequel? The Eureka Seven movie -is- a sequel, and a goddamn better one than Astral Ocean even putting aside the overall quality of both of them. It can't exist without the TV series and it pays homage to the TV series.
I mean the Gekko crew gets fucked over by it and it's hardly the best made thing ever but it's meta concept is great.
Sure you could do the plot stand alone but the movie has like no meaning on its own. Which is to an extent the problem with it.
But it's not an alternate version, it's a spin off universe where the plot involves trying to reach the original and the resolution is tied to the importance of events in the original. It's not a story "of" Eureka Seven it's a story -about- Eureka Seven.
The whole fucking E7 OST is baller as fuck. It's dynamic, heartfelt, powerful, goofy, all at the right times.
I kept thinking Dominic was gonna try fucking Renton over, but it never happened. I thought he was going to be some huge villain for Anemone, but deep in his heart he always thought of himself as a seigi no mikata or something. Stupid whiteknight faggot. To be perfectly honest, I don't think I've ever been happier with how a character arc turned out.
So fuck you, bitch nigger.
The Mon-Soono really looked like it was from Armored Core. Which makes sense considering the designer.
No, by acting like a man child and taking his frustration out on Renton he just endangered his mission and and just pushed Renton away, which is why Renton left, and was why he was justified in leaving.
Days is the best mecha OP. So relaxing.
its been a long time since I last saw eureka 7 and i'd forgotten how interesting a lot of the LFO's looked. I only ever remember nirvash which i never really liked
To be fair, Spec 3 was pretty different as well.
The Gekko swooping in to save the day is one of the most fuckyeah moments in any mecha.
I just wish there had been an Izumo/Gekko team attack scene.
Even the Nirvash's beam sounded like Gunbuster's.
The LFO combat seemed fine it was everything else I hated.
Everything about this episode was great. Especially the music.
Do you completely forget that the Nirvash was intended as an guardian for their ambassador?
The Nirvash has the 2nd best possible interface with humanity simply because humans connect with their machinery.
Ding a guy's BMW, and he shouts "You hit me!"; That kind of empathy and personification was incredibly useful for Eureka and Renton's bonding. That's why the Nirvash adapts to a single cockpit: It's playing wingman/bodyguard for Eureka.
Are you saying you shouldn't beg for things?
Even better; Remember the context?
Nirvash was trying to get Eureka to get over the whole "Renton's just as good a pilot as you are" thing.
>"You know I love you gurl, but grow the fuck up. I'm allowed to have guyfriends too. Oh no. Don't you try cutting him out; We'll go lifting and I'll leave your ass to sulk.
>"Don't you walk away from me; I'll leave tire marks on your ass... You'll be back! You know I'm always right! I'm a fucking magic alien robot!"
Nirvash was such a moody bitch sometimes.
I read a synopsis for the movie and damn does it sound awful.
Wasn't that like three quarters of the way through the show, though?
I really don't remember a whole lot of specifics, I watched it like ten years ago. Inspired me to read The Golden Bough. Good shit.
If this anime show was devoted to Anemone and Dominic, it would be great, but in its current form is nonsense any ...
Besides, I was always on the side of the crew "Izumo" and the pilot "Mon Soono" - cheers warriors
The ten episodes before the last two or three are honestly some of the worst, most contrived bullshit ever, but there's a huge payoff if you can make it past that.
I do like the irony in Eureka saying that her loving Renton wasn't going to make her abandon the kids, with the finale having her abandoning the kids.
Eureka 7 draws in all of the favorable aspects of anime and ties them all together; action, romance, art design, OST, fighting choreography, character development, etc. I wouldn't say It is the only anime I've come across that I actually enjoy watching, but I haven't found anything that comes remotely close to the series.
As for the sequel, it was mediocre, doesn't add much to the story, you may be dissapointed in what you find.
The movie was straight garbage, reused animation, dialogue was ridiculous, not really sure what BONES intentions were.
Easily the best episode in the series.
The colored clouds were a very odd but interesting phenomenon, I can't remember why or how they were formed, especially in the midst of the air battle.
>but I haven't found anything that comes remotely close to the series.
Just about everything it ripped off is superior. E7 is a perfect example of the whole is greater than the sum of its parts.
I like the first part of the series, but after Ray dies, it quickly crawls into it's own ass with a deluge of stupid metaphysical bullshit (like the random Buddhist monks that have TEH SEKRET to the Coral) and only gets out of that for the ending.
Did you forget there's a black woman in the show too?
606 was the scout, 909 was the all rounder/commander unit (it's the closest to the 505, which is the most versatile and common Terminus but seems to be higher performance, harder to pilot, and less customizable) and 808 is the heavy support unit with limited operating time that's pilot has a relatively important other job so it shows up the least but dude.
My first experience with the concept of waifus was way back in late '06 when a smallish Invision forum was a regular haunt of mine. One of the more regular members was a dude who was absolutely obsessed with Eureka to the point where he had completely tapped out of relationships with actual girls. He was so delusional in his waifuism that he was fully convinced that Eureka was real and that one day they would meet and fall in love. Everything with him was what Eureka would like and what he and Eureka would do together and how beautiful and perfect in every way Eureka is.
I hadn't seen Eureka Seven at that point and it really put me off the series for a long time because it reminded me of that guy.
If I recall, he either identified strongly with Renton or was convinced Eureka was too good for Renton and he would make a better partner for her.
This same guy wrote a eulogy when one of his Kamen Rider Kabuto toys broke. You seriously can't make this shit up.
>was convinced Eureka was too good for Renton and he would make a better partner for her
I think you might have been conversing with this guy.
God damn the OST is fucking amazing.
To make it short an alien race landed on earth years ago and tried to merge themselves with humans and the land since this is how they communicate. Eventually they merged with the entire earth and covered it completely which is the land you see for most of the series. Humanity returns 10,000 years later thinking it's a new planet when it's actually earth, The government kept this a secret to avoid any problems.
The robots have frames made from excavated humanoid alien bodies found underground but not all of them are alive. Only Nirvash and The End have been shown to move on their own.
the entire OST of Eureka 7 is Godlike.