>>13814935 Bullshit, Macross II is great. It isn't canon but it is a very worthy sequel to SDF. It may be kind of bad compared directly with SDF and DYRL, but I liked it way better than Plus, Zero, or Frontier.
>It isn't canon but it is a very worthy sequel to SDF It has like none of the things I like from Macross in it. I mean, obviously it 'does', they are in there but I don't like how its executed. I can't even remember a single dogfight that really stood out to me from it
I felt it was having problems from the beginning. Why the fuck would 80 years later "Let's just throw Minmei recordings at 'em" have still been working up until that one enemy?
>>13815008 I felt the movies were better cause they were shorter but they seriously gimp character development to focus on the main triangle/story. I hope you're not asking that to decide which to watch because the movies are supposed to be watched after the series
>>13814984 >Why the fuck would 80 years later "Let's just throw Minmei recordings at 'em" have still been working up until that one enemy? Why wouldn't it...? Song works against Zentraedi in Macross 2 just as well as it worked against them in Macross 7 and Frontier. Its not like the various Zentraedi fleets in the Macross universe are a hivemind, much less unified together.
>>13814928 >it's not canon so it's bad and not worth seeing
That's what's so annoying about some of the Macross fanbase. Alternate timelines in Gundam and other franchises is perfectly acceptable but alternate timelines in Macross, ironically with all the inconsistencies within the "official" timeline, is reason enough to trash an installment without even seeing it.
>>13815033 Macross is such a clusterfuck of continuity that Kawamori declaring MII non-canon just because he wasn't involved with it seems rather hypocritical when the "official" timeline he put together himself is so inconsistent.
>>13814984 Macross II is fantastic. Character design by Mikimoto (in his era of grace). Even the mecha designs are masterfully done even if not by Kawamori. This stupid idea that only Kawamori can come up with good ideas about Macross is bullshit. Just look at the shit he came up with in Macross Plus and Zero. And when he dies then what will the franchise die with him ? Rolleyes. Macross II has all the ingredients of Macross, love triangle, sweet UN Spacy mecha of 2080 and good villains and of course Macross itself. No stupid cultureless aliens this time but a race that uses culture for war. The authors spun the core idea of Macross around 180 for this one. And Macross II was canon before Kawamori stuck his shit around. Even if you consider it non canon, who cares. DYRL is not canon it's a fictionalized film within the fictional story of Macross. Every other series, 7, Frontier, Zero, even SDF Macross for all Kawamori wants are simple "fictionalizations" of real events we will never see. So who the fucks care about canon, Kawamori himself certainly doesn't.
And just to be clear, Macross II was the first sequel to Macross ever. It came out in 1993, way before 7 (talk about a shit sequel) and all the others. So 2080 as a date was perfectly acceptable.
>>13816465 >They didn't have Emulators. I actually liked the fact that the Marduk and their emulators could have been the reason that the Zentran's ancient combat manual warned them to avoid miclone planets.
>>13816029 But was the song "Ai Oboeteimasuka" really a relic of the Protoculture, or was it invented by humans for the movie? Knowing this is necessary to interpret Grace using the song as a weapon against humans in Frontier.
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