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CGI IS KILLING /M/
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Why you use origin CGI as exemple? those are perfect
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/m/? Yes.

Mecha? No. If anything its the only thing keeping the genre alive at this point
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>>13797398
VIDEO KILLED THE RADIO STAR
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shitposting is killing /m/
not that that's bad
even when /m/ is gone you can come see us anytime anon
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>>13797398
Origin main focus isn't mecha, so they use shitty CG and no one cares.

Also, Chinese and Koreans will be the one to do your future animations so you should expect more changes soon
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>>13797398
I wish it would kill you faster anon
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>>13797520

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QqLp8FnXUo
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>>13797537
WHAT IN THE FUCKING GODS NAME IS THAT?
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>>13797547

Two more eggs. The guys who did Homestar Runner got a gig with Disney to make various other shorts. CGI palz isn't my favorite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7hjz_ET9i8&index=9&list=PLg6R6yXKSLYDm2piDZL8n22qlt_olZUeJ

have a more /m/ related one
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>>13797556
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>>13797408
Kill yourself
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>>13797537
Jesus fuck, were they butthurt they couldn't make good looking CGI animations?
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>>13797725
For balance have some nice looking CG (I really need to look up who did the CG for this show)
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>>13797754
MAPPA?
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>>13797754
God, why couldn't they contract the same company for the new garo? Why did they have to try and be chepa bastards?
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>>13797398
Newfags already killed /m/, this is post-apocalyptic now.
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>>13797398
>CGI IS KILLING /M/
Agreed. It can look great in some cases though. Like Majestic Prince or Akito the Exiled.

But it never reaches the highs of 2D animation.
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CGI is killing anime in general. it's a cheap cop-out
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>>13797789
Who is the Kenshirou who will save us?
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>>13797827
Yeah, Korean sweatshops are where it's at. Make anime great again!
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>>13797398
Origin actually uses CGI rather well.

I mean, would prefer animated, like Thunderbolt, but Origin's CGI coupled with the battle choreography looks stellar.

If you want an example of bad CGI, look at Unicorn or Muv Luv Alternative.
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>>13797910
>If you want an example of bad CGI, look at Divergence Eve or Transformers Energon.
ftfy
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>>13797398

No. Bad CGI is killing /m/.
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>>13797725

No, they where a make a joke because they have an irreverent sense of humor and it was funny. It's called humor.

Really, I think you might want to step out of the glass house before you call anyone butt hurt.
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>>13797398
The CGI used in the first two episodes of The Origin like you posted are 6/10. 7/10 at best.

But this...this is wholly, fully good. Some 10 out of 10 right here. I want this. If they want to use CGI, I insist that that do it to this level of quality or I will FUCKING refuse to watch it. Yeah, I emphasized "fucking" to show you how passionate I am.

If you've seen this, then you already agree that it's 10/10. I know that already, so don't respond. But if you havn't seen it, well...start licking your lips until they are wet and just click the link.

https://youtu.be/fx8wjIQLvNo
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Somewhat related topic, but how much money of a typical mecha anime is actually spent on art and animation?
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>>13797398
nah
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>>13797910
>If you want an example of bad 2D art, look at Muv Luv Alternative.
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>>13797920
I just wanted to commend you, because those are indeed great examples of exceptionally shitty anime CG.

Shoulda mentioned Webdiver though.
https://youtu.be/rAZyFFyZr_A?t=15m
This shit made Energon/Superlink look competent.
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>>13798584
Do you have any more comparisons like that?
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>every mech show will soon have AZ cgi mechs
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>>13797920
>Divergence Eve
Don't remind me of that. I'm the kind of person who's usually fine with CGI, but that is an undeniably awful case. You have to keep yourself from vomiting every time you see it.
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>>13798708
>>>/v/
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>not wanting a [high quality] 0079 hard reboot style anime with [high quality] CGI.
>being OP.
>being a faggot.
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>>13797398
>/M/
Who?
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>>13798904
no i'd rather they stopped touching the one year war forever
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>>13798712
It makes Xavier look like Avatar.
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>>13798584
AHAHAHAHAHAH
My sides.
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>>13798584
The pre-rendered CGI sprites in the games fairly suck ass though.

It's a bad example for shitty anime CGI though, as crappy as BETA look sometimes.
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>>13798911

Good one!
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>>13798254
It's the same fucking quality they used in the 2 episodes of ORIGIN
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>>13800997
Its definitely not, the level of detail maybe, but it looks like the shading and how the lines don't 'glow' as much fit a lot better than what we got in the Origin, the vulcan effects are still a little cheesy but it looks like it fits much better altogether than the cg from the origin. Than again, its just from a 30 second clip so I can't say much
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>>13797398
That's because of nostalgia goggles.

Don't fear the future, anon.
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>>13800997
Nooo..

It's pretty different.
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>>13797812
>look great in some cases though. Like Majestic Prince
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>>13798904
that looks disgusting
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>>13801881
There's nothing disgusting about boners.
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>>13801875
>replying to an Orangefag
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>>13797835
Otaking
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>>13797754
>that
>nice looking
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>>13797923
>because they have an irrelevant sense of humor and it was shit.

FTFY
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>>13797537
I didn't know reddit made cartoons now. Neato.
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>>13802064
But Ken wasn't a whiney nostalgiafag.
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>>13797398
>CGI IS KILLING ANIME

Fixed. Just like in the west all animation will be CG, even slice of life moe shit.
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>>13803411
What's wrong with that?
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>>13803446
Because it works so well for Disney/Pixar? They've gotten bland and they're slipping up more and more, and these are movies with a lot of time and money put into them. Try to remember that anime is a seasonal game; it's impossible for amateur Japanese animators to do the same work that experienced Americans do with unlimited resources.
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>>>/3/
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>>13803411
Nigger if that was true they would just fucking do it already.
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>>13798904
>hard reboot
>not hardgraph
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>>13797507
>future
>not now
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>>13798400
Depends on how expensive whatever idol they get to voice the main character
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>>13803391
I'm sorry your eyes don't work properly anon
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>>13801875

But Majestic Prince's CGI was awful, you couldn't see shit.

CGI artists need to need to know proper timing for animation or it just looks like a jumble of fucking motion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhgZrMjDTcU

Clear, distinct easily tracked movements that blends well with 2d.

Too bad Horizon didn't have enough mech battles. (Though Suzaku vs Byakko was great in s2)
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>>13797453
WE CAN'T GO BACK, WE'VE COME TOO FAR.
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>>13803404
The guys who made that were making cartoons long before reddit ever existed.
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>>13803739
That looks like shit
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>>13803739
>says MJP CGI looked bad
>posts a shittier example

Why do you ant-Orangefags do this to yourselves?
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>>13797754
>do shit in full CGI
>still dont bother to up the FPS

That looks like shit. The same reason I stopped watching avatar was because the action looked fucking blocky with the shitty framerate.
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>>13803693
My eyes are working great, you're the one with the problem.
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>Another /m/ circlejerk about how much they hate CG
Shit, I'd take another Gundam thread over one of these
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>>13803947
I have GOT to get around to seeing that.

Any good sources?
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>>13803947
>implies Orange is good
>posts dogshit

What are you trying to prove?
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>>13804195
Take off your nostalgia goggles, anon.

This is far more exiting than that hand drawn crap you've had to live with.
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>>13804198
It's more spastic and amateurish than the plenty of actually good CGI I've seen in my life.

The camerawork is hideous, the environment is practically a box with flat textures, the action doesn't feel natural in the slightest.
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>>13803947
Are those things human-sized, or are those just XBAWKSHEUG chandeliers?
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>>13804239
It's Orange. What do you expect?
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>>13804244
i have no expectations, because i have no knowledge of this show whatsoever.
is it actually "Orange" or is that some nickname /m/ gave it?
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>>13804239
KMFs are somewhere between Scopedogs and Aestis. The chandeliers are XBOXHUEG, but reasonably so.
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>>13804264
Orange is a CG animation studio in Japan that most people around here seemed to not have many problems with before, but are now talking about wacky camera angles and skyboxes whenever they are mentioned
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>>13804270

I read that as somewhere between Schoenberg and Aestis and I got excited.
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>>13797754
WHY WOULD THEY MAKED IT SO CHOPPY
MAKE IT SMOOTH
SMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTH
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>>13801077

Yeah, check out all this nostalgia, CGI is clearly better guys.
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>>13804288
>tumblrgif
Don't defile my precious 5-tone shading, 24fps OVAs like that.
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>>13804273
It's a legitimate gripe!

They've got technical skill but their moneyshot sequences suffer from poor cinematography. People overstate how good they are just because of how smoothly rendered their animations are.
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>>13804288
0083 looks so fucking good.
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>>13804291

>getting this triggered

I just googled "0083 gif", calm down.
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>>13804307
You don't half-ass it when you post something of actual value
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>>13804288
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>>13804329
>that poor poor Gundam getting destroyed like that

STOP I'M GETTING TRIGGERED
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>>13804315

Stop being an autistic hive-mind, tumblr actually has lots of cool /m/ pages.

Check this one out and tell me it isn't pretty cool:

http://jump-gate.tumblr.com/
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>>13804363
>preventing me from saving pictures easily
No. Fuck those guys.

Btw, is gunnm /m/?
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>>13804363
What I said has nothing to do with hive-mind, you dumbass
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>>13804412

Being triggered by the fact that the gif simply has tumblr in its file name is vanilla 4chan mindset.
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>>13797398
CGI is one of the worst things to ever happen to anime, and I curse the Jews that pushed this shit over just paying real animators livable wages and scheduling better so corners didn't need to be cut.
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>>13804418
That fact that you assume that I dislike it because it has tumblr in the filename says volumes about you. Not like all the other posts I've seen you make don't as well, but still
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>>13804433

Your post is literally greentexting >tumblr and implying this is defiling 0083
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>>13804440
You best not be assuming I'm >>13804291
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>>13804198
>This is far more exiting than that hand drawn crap you've had to live with.
Is this lazy bait or are CGfags actually this fucking stupid?
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>>13804448

Well, I am, since you replied my response to him.
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Looks like I managed to find the daily autistic "debate" thread between 3DCG and 2D shit eaters
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>>13804459
Looks like I found the weakest bait.

Or are you a faggot who went to CG art school and wants to pretend your "art form" has any value or merit?
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>>13804470
Nah, I'm the faggot who knows 3DCG and 2D animation are both objectively shit, and this thread is just a bunch of autistic manchildren spewing bile at each other
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>>13804481

I'M INTO POST-VISUAL ANIMATION

YOU WOULDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT, YOU FUCKING NORMIES
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>>13804455
Thanks for proving your stupidity.
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>>13804481
Ok, so it was "weak bait".
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>>13804486
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting. Animation is objectively a waste of time and shit.
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>>13804489
I'm so very sorry my opinion isn't meshing with your lovely little animation hugbox you've got going here
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>>13804492
>>13804499

Why the fuck are you in this board then? Replying to this thread? Literally a self-hating autist.
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>>13804499
It's ok anon, this is 2016 and we're all accepting of retards like yourself. No one is going to lynch you for having a few extra chromosomes.
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>>13804525
Look at this spic go.
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>>13804528

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>>13804525

Holy shit we broke a shitposting bot.
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>>13797398
HE HATES IT
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>>13804505
Because there's more to mecha than shitty cartoons? I know that's hard for you to comprehend, but it's true.
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>>13804420
>just paying real animators livable wages and scheduling better so corners didn't need to be cut.

That shit would be the literal deathblow to anime
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>>13804548
So the end to something that shouldn't have even existed in the first place? Better late than never, I suppose.
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>>13804548

Fuck it, let anime die.

Really. It's been on life support for fucking ever.
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>>13804559
Since the very beginning, yes. A horrible abomination that shouldn't have been made in the first place.
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CGI would be fine if they'd bother to keep it consistent with the rest of the animation. The best CGI, aside from no CGI at all, is the CGI you'd actually have to pay attention to in order to distinguish it from regular animation,
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>>13804525
The CG shilling bot is malfunctioning!
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>>13804548
Yeah, that's why Kyoani is struggling and has shows full of QUALITY.

Oh wait.
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>>13804633
Moeshit garbage doesn't count. Now fuck off back to /a/ where you belong
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>>13804570
>>13804546
>Animation is bad!
Get a load of this faggot.
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>>13804644
I was commenting on their business model, but way to let your autism explode into full /v/ mode and show what a blithering retard you are.
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>>13804646
It's the truth, and you aren't allowed to think otherwise.
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>>13804654
I'm sorry to hear about your terminal shit taste.
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>>13804662
>says the person defending animation of any kind
I already said you can't think that way. It's pretty cute that you are under the delusion that you can, though.
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>>13804674
I can actually picture a kid with Downs syndrome sitting their in fascist military garb pretending people have to listen to him. I'm actually laughing right now.
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>>13804695
You keep on being wrong, I'll be partaking in things that actually bare some vague resemblance to being good unlike cartoons
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>>13804711
So says the guy on 4chan.
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>>13804717
I would ask what your point is, but you very obviously don't have one.
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>>13804695
It's not about people listening to me, it's about objective fact. I have no place in it, and neither do you.
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>>13804711
Ok munchkin. Try not to give mommy too much trouble when she changes your diapers.
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>>13804731
>It's not about people listening to me, it's about objective fact.
sure thing
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>>13804329
Why did animation go to shit after the 80s? Why it just because it went full retard with anime style itself? and also because the themes for anime became less and less action or dramatic? The same can be said in america, well it got better a bit for cartoons not movies thats all Disney gci shit.
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>>13804378
here you go bruv
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>>13804744
I love this meme.
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>>13804378
I hate when people do that. Like 99% of the time they're re-posting official artwork, so what gives them the right to say "this is mine, do not steal".

Usually I just hit the wheel in the middle of my mouse to open the image in a new tap without having to right click, then from the new tap you can right click and save. Or in this guy's tumblr's case, just click embed off his homepage, then when the individual tap for that post comes up, you can use the tracking wheel trick.
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