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I'm about halfway through this and holy fuck this is dark.

This fucking walking war-crime has killed more people and rubbed more tit than any other Gundam protagonist, and it is a beautiful sight.
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Uso is the most based Gundam protag
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>>13794136
>Has killed more people
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>>13794152
I think Uso actually does have more MS kills than any other Gundam protag, but I might be forgetting someone? He is most certainly in the top 10 though.

SOMEONE has to have that list on hand.
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>>13794136
Uso is a complete badass and still a great guy by the end of the series. I loved it.
Those battle bikes are actually invincible. PRESSING OUT THE EARTH


>tfw no HGs of most Zanscare MS, those that do exist are ancient.
I will never not be sad.
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>>13794206
He has the largest number of kills if you factor in that time he fired the Keilas Guille and wiped out that Zanscare Fleet.
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>>13794233
He must have literally killed like 1000 people in that fleet.
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>>13794224
>tfw no HGUC Zoloat
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>>13794233
last time someone bothered to count, Usso has the 2nd most on screen kills of any Gundam protagonist after Trowa. However thats only against MS, no way to count fatalities in sunk warships or weird things like Keilas Guille or Fifth Luna.
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>>13794254
Zanscare MS are too buggy
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>>13794224
>>13794254
Jesus god I'm watching Victory right now, too, and I absolutely love everything about the Zanscare units, they're just the most unique designs in Gundam until Turn A.
The hanger-boots suits take the Bawoo's concept and rework it into a more versatile unit, the Einerad-compatible suits are genius, and the motorcycle battleships are all-terrain and insane. I'm a Zanscare-suit fanboy, now.
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>>13794136
>tfw get so good at piloting that nobody can dodge your warning shots
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Just wait until you're far enough to understand the context of this image.
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>>13794508
He must be Bellri's ancestor.
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>>13794136
I think there are definitely some dark parts, but there are also plenty of light-hearted parts where Victory really shines. I love any of the antics the gang of kids get up to, they remind me of a slightly more likeable ZZ squad
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>>13795248
>they remind me of a slightly more likeable ZZ squad

That's not saying much.
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>>13795186
That's a shotophop, Though a smart one.
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>Every Shrike team member died
>You couldn't save them
I feel awful
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>>13795466
All of them died. Then new people joined. Then they died too.

Why would anybody even sign up?

>>13795248
I should have waited for the BDs before watching.
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>>13795186
Can you even imagine what's actually in that? The trauma to the human head in that helmet must have turned it into skull and brain taco. It's just scrambled meat in there, the fucking waste product from a slaughterhouse. And he just holds it up to everyone.
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>>13794152
The thing about Setsuna is that he killed almost no one in S1.
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Which Shrike was your favorite? Which had the best tits? Which had the best ass? Which had the best death?
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>>13794136
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dumbest part of the show right here tho
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he vapes btw
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>>13798427
Why didn't MSs have frontal screens with rear view again?
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>>13798445
They do, but they're not in the core fighter, because fuck you.
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>>13798555

it's just funny because even modern economy cars can have reverse cameras
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>>13798595
That would have blown people's fucking dicks off in 1993.
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>>13798610

yeah but there have been sub cameras and panoramic cockpits before victory, it was just a dumb idea that didn't really make sense
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>>13798666
Panoramic cockpits have been in fighters since like the 30s.
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>>13798666
I think the G-Defenser had a panoramic cockpit, but I feel like that would have been an animation error, it just doesn't make sense for it to have one.
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>>13799001
360 degree panoramic cockpits with miniature screens of any angle popping up on pilot's demand? Because they can pull up shots of whatever they want in Zeta
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>>13799349
Keep in mind how fucking tiny Victory Gundam is
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>>13794136
And remember, he doesn't enjoy it. Not one bit.
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>>13798408
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>>13794206
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>>13795466
>Connie would have lived if the ginger one didn't go full retard
Fuck it was the last episode too and she was my favourite.
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>>13797916
He went on a rampage in S2 though
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>>13794136
Fucking underrated, its high class tomino when he knew how to write war. Its only because people cant handle it that it has a bad name. All the deaths feel very dramatic and real, gets under your skin at how unimportant humans are in war. It was too much for japan.
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>>13804862
If Victory had shading I seriously think it would be remembered on the same level as Zeta, or at least ZZ. Personally I like it better than the two for entirely subjective reasons but otherwise it has just as many/few flaws as any other part of the full-length UC series.
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>>13795466
Man like the tanned one with orange hair lasted so fucking long. She was my Shrike team waifu.

What? I like the mocha booty
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>>13794206

are we not counting all the people Kira totally had to kill when he cut those battle ships in half?
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>>13806273
Did we had a cut-in of poor people dying? No. Those battleships were empty.
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>>13806281
Shut up Kira.
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Vic Mignogna
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>>13806309
At least he wouldn't half ass it
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>>13799661

Why is marbet so perfect
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>>13794508


Did they ever touch on whether Usso was a new type of not? If not, than damn, he was the most based pilot ever of anything. Also take into consideration V gundam's cockpit which is as old school as fuck without means of channeling your faggo new type shit to get hack kills.
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>>13806647
Its considered that he is a Newtype.
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>>13794136
It's not dark. It's hamfisted nonsense. Even Tomino hates it.
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>>13806664
>Tomino hates it.

Kafka hated The Metamorphosis, what's your point?
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>>13806664
Tomino never said he hated it, he hated how bandai shat on him and he hated how depressed he was. Yet in the end it became a really good dark gundam show that he use to do. He just actually did blu ray for it.
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>>13806309
I hate hearing his rangeless, voice everywhere, I don't even watch many dubs but he has the same voice every time. I wouldn't call him bad but he isn't worth the amount of parts he gets. Not that any anime dub regulars are.
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>>13798595
>>13798610
They didn't need them in 1993 because csrs still had windows instead of gunslits.
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>>13806689
>rangeless
Could be worse, could be Richard Ian Cox.
>try to watch 00 dubbed
>A-Laws have the Shikon jewel shards
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>>13806708
>Associating him with Inuyasha
You disgust me, he's always going to be Kai Shiden the role he did first.
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>>13806716
I think I started watching Toonami after MS:G had failed off of Cartoon network. So, yeah, never really watched the dub.
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>>13797889
>who wants some chili?
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>>13806685
I thought it was bandai pushed him into having more time in space when he wanted more of the show to be on earth like 0079.
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>>13806273
I said "MS kills", not battleships. And if we count those, we count Keilas Guille.

>>13807070
Uh, wasn't 0079 the opposite of that? He wanted space but was forced into some Earth parts?
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>>13807314
0079 got really good for me once they got back into space, with the action quality jumping up and the story getting into the more psychedelic aspects of the Newtypes. But I feel like Victory was better when they were on Earth, since they had the atmospheric combat that focused on using beam rotors, and the bizarre designs of the Adrastea/etc. The Einrads worked a lot better in gravity.
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>>13806689
>Noriko Wakamoto does the same voice for evey character ever
>weebs worship him

>>13806708
I love that dweeb's stupid sarcastic voice.
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>>13807434
I liked a lot of the space designs, and I really don't see why people make a big deal out of the Motorads, I think they're pretty cool. Just take a battleship and slap wheels on it, and you've got a massive fucking tank like vehicle.
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>>13807450
The difference being that Wakamoto is actually a good VA. Not everyone watches anime for the "Hahah xDD so wacky and stupid English dub this is hilarious hahhaha"
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>>13794326
I'm a big fan of the Shokew we see at the start of the series. It has the essence of what makes the Zanscare suits so distinctive, without being too wacky and complex.

>>13797969
My favorite was Francesca O'Hara. There's something about her voice I like. And she's the star of one of my favorite scenes, when she's zoning out on Üsso's shield in the middle of a battlefield, in Episode 42.

>>13806246
If only we had an HD rerelease of Victory.
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>>13807468
Name one dub like that.
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>>13807831
>HD rerelease of Victory
BDs are out ya know
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>>13807901
Did they make changes to the no-shading thing people always knock it on?
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>>13807932
>shading an entire series
Do you know what we're talking about? Do you know what you're talking about? Do you know how blu-rays are made?
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>>13807954
>Do you know what we're talking about?
No, that's why I'm asking questions.

I said "HD rerelease" meaning something that re-animates huge bulks of the series. I was responding to an anon who said Victory would be as popular as Zeta or ZZ if it had shading. Then an anon replies saying the BDs are out. Based on the context, I thought the anon was implying the BD release took care of the shading issue. I found that hard to believe, so I asked if it changed the shading, expecting the answer to be "no."

I don't know what term I should've used besides "HD rerelease."
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>>13808021
Two dumbs don't make a smart.
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>>13808021
You made a mistake anon, that's fine so go and check out the BD releases here.

Only the first four volumes are done so far by RX-78-2 (EG).

http://www.nyaa.se/?user=13874
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Am I the only UC bro that hols Victory in their top 3?

I'm not gonna lie, of all the gundam shows (all of them) I've watched, this one left the longest lasting impression on me.

>dat music

>dat masterful fight choreography
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>>13808072
>Am I the only UC bro that hols Victory in their top 3?

It's my top UC show.
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>>13808079
Same here, mech design is top notch, characters are all lovable and plot is decent. Reinforce Jr.'s scene is still probably the single saddest moment in the franchise until they fucking kill Odelo, TOMINOOOOO
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>>13808123
>Reinforce Jr.'s scene

>all those old dudes literally passing the future to the younger generation by charging their ship into the enemy line

My fucking heart
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>>13808123
I'm still mad.
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>>13808133

Katejina was in her "reaper of casts" mode, I'm just surprised Tomache got out alive
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>>13808132
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gXkQHGR4MJw
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>>13808072


>dat music

>dat masterful fight choreography

Victory is 4th for me, those two factors help. Uso was a fucking genius with the Victory and the way he utilized the ejectable parts, it always made my day.
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>>13808132
>>13808606

Can you get any more Tomino than that thematically ?
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>>13808123
Miharu and Odelo are the two saddest deaths to me because they leave behind someone who loved them and at such a young age. Shit hurts.
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>>13808653
That is the weirdest looking Kai.
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>some day Usso is going a bearded man in a patched up coat begging for change next to the subway entrance
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>>13808657
I assume it was a halfway between old Kai and young Kai. In any case it looks fucking strange, yes, but doesn't dull the sorrow of Kai's love interest dying and the twins being left to fend for themselves.
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>>13808682
How did Kai grow into such a creepy looking adult anyway?
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>>13808691
Are we talking about zeta Kai or this >>13808653 Kai?

Cause Kai didn't give any creeper vibe in Zeta.
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>>13808680
Nuh-uh. He's going to inherit the name of Jinn Jahannam and continue protecting the Earth Sphere while things continue to destabilize. If he's still alive he'll retire to Kasarelia and grow old with Shakti.
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>>13808696
Hopefully his name didn't get corrupted to Gym Ghingham over the centuries.
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>>13808703
But I thought they have a Jehennem ship in G-Reco.
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>>13808703
>>13808715

Klim's first mobile suit is a JAHANNAM model, so his name truly did become immortal.
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>>13808703
>>13808715
>>13808719
I'm glad I'm not the only one who likes to think Gym can trace his symbolic lineage back to Hangelg Ewin, and that other guy. (Of course we should all remember than jahannam is a real-life Arabic word, so its use in G-Reco doesn't need any such explanation.) The name of the Keilas Guile survived to the Correct Century, so why not Jinn Jahannam.
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>>13808072
It's very nearly tied with 0079 as my favourite UC. It's definitely my 2nd favourite Gundam series overall, and in my to 5 mecha
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>>13808696
I honestl can't imagine Uso wants to even get near a gundam ever again.
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>>13798441
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>>13808719
Actually, Jahannam is the deepest part of hell in Islam. It has nothing to deal with Gym or Jim. Wikipedia it.
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>>13808682
Not sure if it's ever been alluded to before but in the last Origin there's a side-story involving Kai and Sayla and she mentions that the relief organization that she works with found Miharu's rugrats and is making sure they are taken care of.
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>>13810011
The word "jahannam" probably has nothing to do with Gym, we're just having fun there, but Jinn (not Jim) Jahannam did intentionally pick that Arabic word for his codename. I think Üsso translates "jinn" and "jahannam" around the time he meets the body double and gets salty about his missing father, can't remember the specific episode.
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>>13807841
Ghost Stories.
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>>13811169
Shit, it's sad but still better than the story where they're picked up by Flannigan.
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>>13794508

You shouldn't need to dodge a warning shot, because a warning shot is something you shoot close to someone, not actually at them presuming that they'll dodge it. If you're shooting at them, it's just a shot.
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>>13814268
There's a warning shot were youfire wildly away from them.

Then there is the Uso warning shot were you try to clip their wings a little bit but they end up flying into it.
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>>13808696
It'd be cool t get a new Late UC series (come on, 0179 is right there as a year with nothing set in it!) with Uso serving as the mentor character in the V2-Repair.

Also more Zanscare suits, like the Zanspine.
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>>13794326
I'm actually confused as to how the hangar-boots system works. Seems computer-controlled for the most party, but then there are a few times they end up acting as pseudo funnels, like when Uso launches a fleet of them at one point.
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>>13816327
>I'm actually confused as to how the hangar-boots system works. Seems computer-controlled for the most party, but then there are a few times they end up acting as pseudo funnels, like when Uso launches a fleet of them at one point.

Those ones were slaved to his core fighter until he cut them loose
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>>13810011
It's actually a place in the Fertile Crescent, Gahenna/Jahanna. Believed to be history's first garbage dump, and hell itself is named after it.
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>>13798413
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>this will remain obscure and elusive

it saddens me
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>>13816308
Yeah, the Zanspine is one of my favorite things. I have some pretty elaborate fanfiction outlines set in the decades following V.

>0179 is right there as a year with nothing set in it!
You know Double-Fake: Under the Gundam? I've seen things suggesting that a side story to that manga, something called Almarya, is set in 0179. Hard to imagine how a story set just before CCA could be connected to something on the centennial anniversary of the OYW.
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>>13794224
HG Shokew NEVER.
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>>13794326
>I'm a Zanscare-suit fanboy, now.

How does it feel to have good taste?
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>>13819647
What a fucking mess. Zanspine is the closest thing, and it's not that idiotic.
Second Victory making it into G Gen was orgasmic.
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>>13806673
Kafka was a fucked up guy, what's your point?
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>>13797889
> "All that blood. And bone. And yellow, oily goo. Looks serious..."
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>>13820282
Hurts bad, man. I can only hope for a revival eventually but it seems everyone loves the Victory Gundam while hating the series. Maybe Bandai has yet to realize that people are giving it a second chance after all these years and they'll eventually bring back some kits?

Please?
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