I'm about halfway through this and holy fuck this is dark.
This fucking walking war-crime has killed more people and rubbed more tit than any other Gundam protagonist, and it is a beautiful sight.
>Has killed more people
I think Uso actually does have more MS kills than any other Gundam protag, but I might be forgetting someone? He is most certainly in the top 10 though.
SOMEONE has to have that list on hand.
Uso is a complete badass and still a great guy by the end of the series. I loved it.
Those battle bikes are actually invincible. PRESSING OUT THE EARTH
>tfw no HGs of most Zanscare MS, those that do exist are ancient.
I will never not be sad.
>tfw no HGUC Zoloat
last time someone bothered to count, Usso has the 2nd most on screen kills of any Gundam protagonist after Trowa. However thats only against MS, no way to count fatalities in sunk warships or weird things like Keilas Guille or Fifth Luna.
Jesus god I'm watching Victory right now, too, and I absolutely love everything about the Zanscare units, they're just the most unique designs in Gundam until Turn A.
The hanger-boots suits take the Bawoo's concept and rework it into a more versatile unit, the Einerad-compatible suits are genius, and the motorcycle battleships are all-terrain and insane. I'm a Zanscare-suit fanboy, now.
>tfw get so good at piloting that nobody can dodge your warning shots
Just wait until you're far enough to understand the context of this image.
I think there are definitely some dark parts, but there are also plenty of light-hearted parts where Victory really shines. I love any of the antics the gang of kids get up to, they remind me of a slightly more likeable ZZ squad
Can you even imagine what's actually in that? The trauma to the human head in that helmet must have turned it into skull and brain taco. It's just scrambled meat in there, the fucking waste product from a slaughterhouse. And he just holds it up to everyone.
And remember, he doesn't enjoy it. Not one bit.
Fucking underrated, its high class tomino when he knew how to write war. Its only because people cant handle it that it has a bad name. All the deaths feel very dramatic and real, gets under your skin at how unimportant humans are in war. It was too much for japan.
If Victory had shading I seriously think it would be remembered on the same level as Zeta, or at least ZZ. Personally I like it better than the two for entirely subjective reasons but otherwise it has just as many/few flaws as any other part of the full-length UC series.
Did they ever touch on whether Usso was a new type of not? If not, than damn, he was the most based pilot ever of anything. Also take into consideration V gundam's cockpit which is as old school as fuck without means of channeling your faggo new type shit to get hack kills.
Tomino never said he hated it, he hated how bandai shat on him and he hated how depressed he was. Yet in the end it became a really good dark gundam show that he use to do. He just actually did blu ray for it.
I hate hearing his rangeless, voice everywhere, I don't even watch many dubs but he has the same voice every time. I wouldn't call him bad but he isn't worth the amount of parts he gets. Not that any anime dub regulars are.
I said "MS kills", not battleships. And if we count those, we count Keilas Guille.
Uh, wasn't 0079 the opposite of that? He wanted space but was forced into some Earth parts?
0079 got really good for me once they got back into space, with the action quality jumping up and the story getting into the more psychedelic aspects of the Newtypes. But I feel like Victory was better when they were on Earth, since they had the atmospheric combat that focused on using beam rotors, and the bizarre designs of the Adrastea/etc. The Einrads worked a lot better in gravity.
I liked a lot of the space designs, and I really don't see why people make a big deal out of the Motorads, I think they're pretty cool. Just take a battleship and slap wheels on it, and you've got a massive fucking tank like vehicle.
I'm a big fan of the Shokew we see at the start of the series. It has the essence of what makes the Zanscare suits so distinctive, without being too wacky and complex.
My favorite was Francesca O'Hara. There's something about her voice I like. And she's the star of one of my favorite scenes, when she's zoning out on Üsso's shield in the middle of a battlefield, in Episode 42.
If only we had an HD rerelease of Victory.
>Do you know what we're talking about?
No, that's why I'm asking questions.
I said "HD rerelease" meaning something that re-animates huge bulks of the series. I was responding to an anon who said Victory would be as popular as Zeta or ZZ if it had shading. Then an anon replies saying the BDs are out. Based on the context, I thought the anon was implying the BD release took care of the shading issue. I found that hard to believe, so I asked if it changed the shading, expecting the answer to be "no."
I don't know what term I should've used besides "HD rerelease."
Am I the only UC bro that hols Victory in their top 3?
I'm not gonna lie, of all the gundam shows (all of them) I've watched, this one left the longest lasting impression on me.
>dat masterful fight choreography
Same here, mech design is top notch, characters are all lovable and plot is decent. Reinforce Jr.'s scene is still probably the single saddest moment in the franchise until
they fucking kill Odelo, TOMINOOOOO
>dat masterful fight choreography
Victory is 4th for me, those two factors help. Uso was a fucking genius with the Victory and the way he utilized the ejectable parts, it always made my day.
Miharu and Odelo are the two saddest deaths to me because they leave behind someone who loved them and at such a young age. Shit hurts.
I assume it was a halfway between old Kai and young Kai. In any case it looks fucking strange, yes, but doesn't dull the sorrow of Kai's love interest dying and the twins being left to fend for themselves.
Nuh-uh. He's going to inherit the name of Jinn Jahannam and continue protecting the Earth Sphere while things continue to destabilize. If he's still alive he'll retire to Kasarelia and grow old with Shakti.
Hopefully his name didn't get corrupted to Gym Ghingham over the centuries.
Klim's first mobile suit is a JAHANNAM model, so his name truly did become immortal.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who likes to think Gym can trace his symbolic lineage back to Hangelg Ewin, and that other guy. (Of course we should all remember than jahannam is a real-life Arabic word, so its use in G-Reco doesn't need any such explanation.) The name of the Keilas Guile survived to the Correct Century, so why not Jinn Jahannam.
I honestl can't imagine Uso wants to even get near a gundam ever again.
Not sure if it's ever been alluded to before but in the last Origin there's a side-story involving Kai and Sayla and she mentions that the relief organization that she works with found Miharu's rugrats and is making sure they are taken care of.
The word "jahannam" probably has nothing to do with Gym, we're just having fun there, but Jinn (not Jim) Jahannam did intentionally pick that Arabic word for his codename. I think Üsso translates "jinn" and "jahannam" around the time he meets the body double and gets salty about his missing father, can't remember the specific episode.
You shouldn't need to dodge a warning shot, because a warning shot is something you shoot close to someone, not actually at them presuming that they'll dodge it. If you're shooting at them, it's just a shot.
It'd be cool t get a new Late UC series (come on, 0179 is right there as a year with nothing set in it!) with Uso serving as the mentor character in the V2-Repair.
Also more Zanscare suits, like the Zanspine.
I'm actually confused as to how the hangar-boots system works. Seems computer-controlled for the most party, but then there are a few times they end up acting as pseudo funnels, like when Uso launches a fleet of them at one point.
>I'm actually confused as to how the hangar-boots system works. Seems computer-controlled for the most party, but then there are a few times they end up acting as pseudo funnels, like when Uso launches a fleet of them at one point.
Those ones were slaved to his core fighter until he cut them loose
>this will remain obscure and elusive
it saddens me
Yeah, the Zanspine is one of my favorite things. I have some pretty elaborate fanfiction outlines set in the decades following V.
>0179 is right there as a year with nothing set in it!
You know Double-Fake: Under the Gundam? I've seen things suggesting that a side story to that manga, something called Almarya, is set in 0179. Hard to imagine how a story set just before CCA could be connected to something on the centennial anniversary of the OYW.
Hurts bad, man. I can only hope for a revival eventually but it seems everyone loves the Victory Gundam while hating the series. Maybe Bandai has yet to realize that people are giving it a second chance after all these years and they'll eventually bring back some kits?