Let's have a thread that's not (exactly) about Gundam.

Zeon a shit. Federation for life.

Azrael did nothing wrong.

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>>13775445
Enjoy ur taxation without representation, federast.

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>>13775438
>but do any of them make such an effort to show good people on the "bad" side
Grendizer.

The Vegan Empire comprise of different kinds of people from all over the universe which were conquered, like Duke Fleed. They had no choice but to face Duke Fleed, or suffer terrible consequences. In one episode, Vegan children were wholly brainwashed that Duke Fleed was the motherload of evil. Also there were some family bonding too, with that science minister caring a lot for his son who went to duel Duke Fleed.

Duke Fleed is also engaged to Rubina, the Vegan emperor's daughter, not to mention the other times where sexy female aliens fell uncontrollably in love with Duke Fleed.

Great Mazinger had a similar deal with the Mycenae. People who are wholly good but are forced to fight Great Mazinger or face consequences.

Notice that I'm saying his name a lot, because Duke Fleed is the most fabulous pilot of the universe.

Does that answer your question?

>>13775461
Better than being taxed to the gills to pay for the bloated military and superweapons of Space Hitler and still not getting representation.

>>13775475
I wonder what else there is beyond this and the Shogun Warrior Porn

>>13775438
>That Basara was imposing his will on the world?

Kind of. But it usually more comes to 'if this were any other series than Macross 7, he'd have been dead, and was just Goddamn lucky to be in the one setting which seems tailor made to run with his shtick'

Generally, the Romance Robot shows by Nagahama made a big deal out of both sides having good and evil people, usually fighting because the invasion force's prick leader got too greedy. Daimos is the most significant example (incidentally, Shidoni came back to work on the show, despite some brief subninja-induced amnesia).

>>13775510
>>13775475
What is that even FROM?

>>13775438
Well, Shin Mazinger Shougeki! Z-Hen tries to explain Dr. Hell's actions - that his desire for world domination was so that he could then arm and prepare humanity for war against the Mycenae Empire.

I haven't finished Toei Mazinger yet nor read any Mazinger manga so I'm not sure how he ends up being portrayed in either.

>>13775438
>Has anyone even been as far as to defend Dr Hell's point of view?
Shin Mazinger

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>>13775642
>>13776045
Are you implying that Dr Hell was right to do what he did, and that the 'Zinger crew were the true villains?

>>13777896

Nah

If Mazinger was able to defeat everything Dr.Hell threw at him, then clearly Kouji is more fit to defend humanity from the Mycenae than Hell is.

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>>13777954
Then we're back to Gundam being the only show where you can usually argue both sides of the war...

>>13775642
Apparently, one manga shows that Dr. Hell had a crummy childhood, but I have no idea if it's the Gosaku Ota one or something else.

>>13775438
Who is this bara nigga

>>13777969
Gore had a pretty good reason for doing what he did, Brai even more so, though his wasn't thought up until later, so that doesn't quite count as much

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Came for the coffee

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>>13775438

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>>13778421

>>13777969

But it doesn't negate what he said.

Both sides would be right, but Kouji is more right because he won

>>13777954

At the same time, Doctor Hell was generally more on top of his shit. Mazinger was a better machine as a single unit, but the photon power labs were a small scale operation not set up to defend the planet. Hell amassed an army and logistics and actually knew what he was preparing for.

His forced turned out to not be strong enough for the job, but the job he set out to do was still a good idea. The best result would have been to just ally with the photon power labs and explain everything, though.

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Rebuild is a sequel because in the Rebuildverse coffee comes in cans out of vending machines

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>>13779429
Deepest lore

>>13779429
That happened in the original series, too. Later in the series Misato switches from beer to coffee, you just didn't notice the difference in the cans.

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>>13778441
I really want to hug Zinnerman.

>>13775438
>Has anyone ever argued that [...] Basara was imposing his will on the world?
Yes, Gamlin.

>>13775642
In Gosaku Ota's manga, Dr. Hell had a shitty childhood. He then fell in love with the girl who went on to become Juuzo's wife. (She has a name, but I can't remember it right now) When he found out that his friend Juuzo was going out with her, he got angry and depressed, but got inspired by Hitler and got to work with the nazis (If I remember well, I have to check the manga again).

Also, in Shin Mazinger, he wants to conquer the world, but his major reason of doing it not to fight the mycenae. He just wants to become like alexander the great, ghenghis khan etc.

>>13779551
Coffee flavored beer.