Great Mazinger was the most racially aware super robot show of the 70s.
The more you know.
Toei was always good.
Until the last 20 years or so.
I haven't seen it in awhile but I'm pretty sure there's just a single episode about Jun crying over being a nigger, calling it "racially aware" is quite the stretch.
Most of the 70s Toei shows generally look great for the time.
That was what it meant in a lot of places historically. It was why fair skin was fashionable and desirable during much of Britain and America's history for instance. The trend has really only reversed in the last two centuries or so thanks to the industrial revolution and such, since darker, tanned skin was a sign of wealth and leisure, indicating you could afford to spend time outside in the sun and not be cooped up working all the time indoors.
I remember when this thread last came up a Nipposter said something like, and I'll try to get the wording as close as I can, "Americans think mixing races makes their culture better? Very strange country." Which of course brought Spicrager out of the woodwork, as well as someone who tried to pass phrenology off as a legitimate science.
>PCucks are either legitimately this retarded or this bad at baiting
>tfw miss japan was 1/2 black
Not that guy, but
>Tomino is a misogynist!
>/m/ is racist!
>/m/ is sexist!
>4chan uses the word nigger a lot because they are actually racist, and it's not a joke!
>There is nothing wrong with censoring things!
>Freedom of speech is hate speech and should be removed.
>There is literally nothing wrong with having Hemidal, the White God, portrayed by a black actor. Holy shit, people who complain about this are racist. OH MY GOD. They are casting a white woman as The Ancient one in Doctor Strange when the character is Asian in the comics. THIS WHITE WASHING! THIS IS CREEPY AND GROSS AND NEEDS TO BE REMOVED! Come on people, it's 2016!
Stuff like that. To give an accurate description would require explaining things like virtue signalling, progressivism vs liberalism, etc. Stuff I don't want to, and you are better off not knowing.
Basically SJWs are secular versions of those fundamentalist church ladies who want to ban everything.
On 4chan the stuff usually starts out as jokes and trolling, but eventually people start taking it seriously.
On /m/ it's not that bad, yet. But it's being pushed hard lately. If someone starts claiming super robot shows are horrible since the gender the robot, bail.
>Mexico and Latin America the same country
Well if only that were true so we would combine our entire military and wipe your shithole place out of the face of the Earth
I can only see so much butthurt against Spain coming from the most Portuguese out there, I could say I got it down to a "t.". Alberto Barbosa gtfo
So... basically SJW is what bigots and hicks call people when they're being called out? And then they invent all sorts of clumsy and unrealistic elaborations, and cherry pick contrary examples?
I suppose this means I should ignore people who use the word or defend its use as just uneducated and immature individuals.
No SJW's are leftist bourgeois stooges with low IQs who think that being offended at everything and having the reading comprehension of a sixth grader grounds their intellectual and moral superiority over "hicks" and "bigots".
SJWs exist and are crazy and occasionally a headache, but some people see it everywhere and treat even normal or majority opinions as obviously deriving from that camp.
Remember when everyone was up in arms about the Tea Party? Or Christian fundamentalists? Yeah, SJWs are to not-that-racist-and-sexist as the Tea Party was to Republicans and Jesus Camp fundamentalists are to your mom who goes to church maybe 10 times a year. And because those types really stick in peoples' craw, and they're easily mocked, it's cool to build them up as a supervillain, dogpile them, and try to sweep anyone who could be tangentally considered to maybe agree with a lesser view of one of their positions into being exactly 100% like them.
Which is fine, but we're approaching the point where the anti-SJW crowd is becoming about as annoying as the SJWs themselves and edging into self-parody territory.
Don't be surprised five years from now when the hot new buzzword is the anti-SJW version of "fedora". And start taking bets for what we'll get up in arms over next.
>Don't be surprised five years from now when the hot new buzzword is the anti-SJW version of "fedora".
Well, fedora already means "that thing supposedly worn by anyone who disagrees with me on any subject in any way regardless of what our viewpoints actually are."
Even though in reality it's just a hat worn by gays who think dubstep is music.
I always thought the social left (not political left) was about the freedom to verbally and textually offend everyone with no consequences. Like, you could hate on niggers, and women all you want, as long as you weren't committing physical violence. At least that's what I thought was, before this whole sjw ordeal.
What the fuck happened, and how did the sjws take over?
Wouldn't your whole description fits the social right more due to the supposed "MUH FREEDOMS"?
inb4 horseshoe theory on how the extreme left/right are more alike than they would like to think
They didn't take over (outside of colleges), they just found each other and started organizing. Blame literally everyone being on the internet now so they can feed each others' neuroses and create the perfect little hugbox where all dissenting opinions are quashed, and any attempts to vocalize them is treated as oppression or infiltration by the other.
It works the same way regardless of what your group's "trigger" is.
In the case of /m/, people who like SEED. Fuck those degenerates.
College campuses aren't reality. They'll have to shape up quick once their four years are over. Unfortunately, that doesn't help the kids going into the warped culture they've created every year. The whole thing needs to be
What >>13779137 and >>13779172 said. I'm a lifelong liberal, I always vote democratic, listening to most social conservatives has me facepalming like mad, but listening to some of these SJW sorts is just as bad.
Give you an example. Was running around in GW2 and saw a guild advert. It was a longwinded thing about how they're a family-friendly guild that promotes a safe space for everyone to play in peace. They then proceeded to state "no bigots" and produced a list along the lines of "all women, PoC's, LGBTQ, religions, and disabled are welcome!" If you cruise certain online circles and platforms you'll see those terms used a lot together.
Here's the thing. Why not just say "everyone welcome, just play nice"? What is the need to list out every permutation of "not male WASP non-disabled"? Ultimately the goal of equality is neither to homogenize to where everyone's the same, nor to put differences on a pedestal so they're even more glaring, but to move to a point where SHIT DON'T MATTER.
And moreover, is that really the most troublesome thing? That oh gosh, someone online insulted me? Or that that I got 'triggered' because, oh dear, someone wants to put up a nice memorial to some civil rights luminary, but it's in a park close to a tree and trees symbolize lynching how dare you you horrible racists? When there's countless other causes of people facing -actual- risk to -actual- body and property in the world?
Ultimately, it's the kind of leftist activism where it never accomplishes anything, but rather becomes something like a fashion accessory.
Yup. The whole point of the liberal movement was to open up the minds of sheltered conservatives about the real world (that consist of gays, lesbians hippies whatever, unlike their little gated communities) and hopefully get everyone equal under the law.
But now lgbt and feminists are purposely segregating themselves and asking for rights, which defeat the whole purpose of the movement.
So I've seen people call Go Nagai a misogynist.
I don't understand how that came to be. Is it because he likes to show T&A?
But wouldn't that mean that he loves women and trust them? Considering a lot of his series feature STRONK FEMALE characters.
The way I see things, SJW's are basically a group of modern Social Justice Don Quixote's.
They grew up hearing about how the civil rights movement of the 1950's and 60's, anti-slavery movement of the 1800's, various feminist movements like the women's suffrage movement and at some point decided that they were going to join them when they grew up. The only problem was that by the time most of them were born, most of the problems these movements had fought against had been defeated and by the time they had grown up barely any of the problems existed anymore. They however had already made up in their minds to fight dragons and they would do that even if it meant they'd be fighting dragons that looked suspiciously a lot like wind mills and bystanders telling them that their dragons weren't actually dragons.
Why do I say this? Because I've had more encounters with feminists and "social justice" activists who have taken any and all disagreements with them as admissions that I don't support everything "they" have achieved, starting from the abolishment of slavery and women being able to vote and wear pants. When you see what they do to women and blacks that disagree with them you're just going to be horrified if you haven't already seen what they do them.
People love objects. Why are feminists so dumb?
Thing is, to some, STRONK FEMALE is seen as basically a stereotype and an easy out.
The character is still basically just filling a specific type, only now the type is different. Often, it's reduced to a box to be checked off, rather than an actual character.
Of course, the entire problem with these debates, as this thread kind of shows, is that people tend to treat it as black and white when there's a whole lot of other facets to it.
The fact there isn't even really a singular 'across the board' definition of SJW, for example, makes it hard to really debate the merits and flaws of. Someone can have some legitimate beefs with a particular issue, only for an opponent to lob out 'SJW' (or 'fedora neckbeard', to be fair for another example) and lump that person in with stances they otherwise wouldn't touch simply because it's easier than trying to debate the issue.
Are there extreme reactionary stances regarding representation of certain groups - Hell, fucking yes. Is this a new thing? Not really. The net's just made it easier to be aware of them. Groups on the progressive side have had their share of exclusionary reactionists for ages (feminism, for example, has some schools of thought that can be pretty shitty to non-white or trans women. Likewise, the LGBT community, while publicly considered a single unified front, has its own share of segregated circles - besides racial issues, there's been concerns for years about the fact bi and trans groups tend to get marginalized by some of the gay and lesbian communities, making them feel excluded rather than accepted.)
...I could keep going. Point is, it's a whole mess of an issue, and the boilerplate labels aren't really helping matters.
Tumblr is just the latest iteration of something that's been going on for ages but tends to get looked over just because it's easier to gloss people under a single banner.
This has always been the big problem with Nagai's perceptions in the US. We never officially got his manga over here. Most of the US's first perceptions of him came more from the OVA adaptations of his works. So a whole generation here took to judging him more on adaptations, many of lackluster quality, than the actual work of the man himself.
And let's face it, if there's one thing we've all learned about Uncle Go by now, it's that few of his anime adaptations are particularly good representations of the man.
There was yet another movement initiated by some female celebs last year for more female directors, got a lot of buzz. But what got me was to hear them talk about it. "We want more films made by women for women! Good movies that aren't just a woman in a man's role! Roles that are uniquely female!"
Now I can sympathize that sometimes a female action hero is see as more of a sex object for men than an empowerment point for women. I get that. But are you serious? Unless the role is centered squarely around the woman making use of her anatomy, there is no 'uniquely female' story. Because outside of reproduction-based drama or sexism-based drama, the gender of the protag would be inconsequential to any narrative.
That's the kind of thing where what seems a push for liberation actually becomes limiting. Because you're no longer trying to push for a day of equality, where it's as common as one for the other and never a big deal. You're pushing so hard to define, establish, and promote a 'unique' identity you end up imposing limits on yourself. A woman saving the world? Oh gosh! That's too masculine! Make more stories of women dealing with sexual assaults or single moms struggling to get by!
Go Nagai is weird. Cutie Honey is about a dyke superhero years before that was even a thing in the west. Mazinger Z, on the other hand, doesn't have a single competent female in the series (which is made "worse" by it's adaptations). Thing with Cutie Honey and Mazinger Z is that Cutie Honey is some seriously trashy stuff (which puts off American women, especially feminists) and the fact that nobody in Mazinger is competent except for Kouji. Boss is more of a jobber than Sayaka. Harenchi Gakuen (which isn't translated except for I think one specific exceptionally porny spin-off) is really bizarre overall and feminists will overlook male incompetense to see female incompetense and the fact that WOMEN are NUDE (though everyone knows that so are the men).
Look, if you're reading a review that disregards a work based on the premise that the author is misogynist, then the review you're reading was written by an idiot.
At the time, that was really all women got, meaning they were still largely disenfranchised compared to men. Nowadays, women definitely have a lot of advantages over men, but they tend to be subtle and cumulative. Male "advantages" tend to be more obvious, like men being pretty much all of the worldwide top earners, even though that means nothing to your average blue-collar oil monkey or white-collar desk jockey.
What manga is this? All Google gives me is a NeoGAF thread bitching about how Go Nagai is Satan with one guy saying he should get around to seeing Nagai's works including Getter Robo Armageddon.
It doesn't really make much sense anyway.
At the end of the days, blacks in America are just as much part of America's culture as whites are. They've been here just as long as we have and their influence has shaped major changes in our country's history. If anything the group that has been in America for the shortest amount of time and thus had the least cultural influence is either Asians or Arabs.
>If anything the group that has been in America for the shortest amount of time and thus had the least cultural influence is either Asians or Arabs.
I agree with pretty much all of this. Fact is I can't see an SJW ever voting for like say Ralph Nader (who I still someone regret voting for in 2000) because his stance has always been on worker rights and making sure the little guy can't be stepped on economically. He won't go after the kind of social policies they support.
Look for other pictures of her, she has a lot of telltale east-asian features. That being said, East-asian traits do not seem to be particularly dominant. Here is Prince Nikolai of Denmark, who is 1/4 Chinese.
What? An European prince is 1/4 Chinese? I thought those people hate anyone who wasn't a pure blood white. Especially considering his grandpa or grandma was OK with marrying a chink
I'd say the existence of chinatowns has affected culture where they are somewhat, but the difference is, Chinese culture is very xenophobic, even the poor people, so they made an area and stayed there, whereas because black Americans came from a sort-of integrated place, that being slaves in white houses, their physical place was more intermingled naturally with white people, so they didn't really have a chance to run to their little corner like the Chinese imports did.
His dad Prince Joachim isn't directly in line to the throne, that might've made things easier. He married Alexandra Manley who then became Princess Alexandra. They divorced after 10 years, although that was nothing new after Charles/Diana. He subsequently remarried to a french woman.
The Crown Prince Frederik is married to a Tasmanian woman, Mary. Frederik and Joachim are both half-french, as their father Henri is a french wine farmer. Their mother apparently saw to liberalize things a bit and let her sons marry commoners, probably to ease the genetic burden a bit and avoid various inbred monstrosities.
wat. The younger generations are literally forgoing sex and meaningful relationships because Japan's absurd work ethic has destroyed their parents. Once the geezers start dropping, the stats will show crazy amounts of depopulation.
What I don't get is that if they're THAT determined to fight for these causes, why don't they....you know, try and do something to help the countries where those problems are rampant like in Subsaharan Africa?
I mean some people look down on the "raising money to try and stop Sudanese genocide" people in thinking that anything short of military action will stop it, but at least they're TRYING to help. They're actively raising capital for the cause.
There's very little wrong with a reduced population when the country is headed towards high automation of labor and reliance on trade for everything else. Japan won't really suffer from a negative population growth rate for quite a few generations at worst. Fact is, highly industrialized nations don't need as many humans.
They really don't. High productivity from automation and low population can still result in higher gdp per capita. Everyone has high purchasing power rather than a large population with less purchasing power. Of course that means low-end goods and common consumables might suffer, but premium goods will flourish.
>when the country is headed towards high automation of labor and reliance on trade for everything else.
The problem is their culture runs in opposition to that so it's not progressing as well as it could.
Plus more importantly, they're in a state where soon only a fraction of the population will be in the working age.
>Fact is, highly industrialized nations don't need as many humans.
Maybe Japan doesn't, but larger industrial nations need people for their military.
Militaries are not just grunts to throw in a meatgrinder.
Officers, strategists, transportation, intelligence analyzers, the people on the civilian side who produce the equipment and mine the resources for it. The military encompasses a ridiculous amount of society's various components.
You can't automate the military. As long as we fight wars, we will leave the responsibility of killing to humans. Something in our moral fiber as humans seems to be repulsed by the idea of leaving that kind of power in automated hands.
The thing is Japan inherently sees it as a problem. They want more people.
>Something in our moral fiber as humans seems to be repulsed by the idea of leaving that kind of power in automated hands.
Only because we don't have good enough robots to do it. Even drones are piloted remotely
See you say that, but how will a politician argue to some parents that little Jimmy had to die in a war because we didn't want to use robots.
I'm not talking about 100% automation, I would think humans still run all the command and control equipment, just that machines would do the killing.
Very true, though there's also the possibility of those components themselves getting automated. For transportation, there are self-driving cars and trucks being developed, and for strategists, officers, and intelligence analyzers, a lot of scifi has revolved around what would happen if computers took those fields over. In Harlan Ellison's famous "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream," the evil AI is described to have been created because war, at that point, had become "too complex for human minds to oversee."
Still, stories like that are why I think >>13780668
might have a point. Human beings are so leery of machines having the power to kill us that I don't think any nation will have an easy time of fully automating its military. Even drones still require human piloting and oversight.
Like i said, drones aren't automated. They're still a machine that is piloted and controlled from being a screen. They're not machines that are just programmed to kill everything in an area.
>Human beings are so leery of machines having the power to kill us that I don't think any nation will have an easy time of fully automating its military. Even drones still require human piloting and oversight.
That's the funny thing though, most people don't know this. A lot of people think drones ARE robots and that we're already that stage, and quite frankly they don't care because they see it as effective against our enemies.
The drone problem has less to do with the military wanting to be ethical and more to do with the military not wanting to deal with mass public fear of robots.
It's one thing to bomb a bunch of sand kids, it's another to create what is essentially skynet in the eyes of the public. America would go insane over it and all the anti-government sentiment would come to a boiling point.
>I just feel like if the world has problems, you should try and go to fix them.
I feel like there is not enough giant robots, so fixing that.
Ironically enough, her being cute, modest and racially aware puts her a step above the rest.
Jun's more of a yamato nadeshiko than most of Nagai's female characters.
/clg/ is basically the "chick board", I don't blame it for having girls getting triggered when the Big Fat Meanies call them fat.
/v/ is just fucking nutz with that stuff, going from bitching about SJWs to supporting them ironically depending in which side the wind blows during a thread.
>ever going to /mlp/
/m/ has, unfortunetly, the biggest infestation of the general no fun allowed policy regarding racy, trashy humor and works that usually plagues SJW dominated areas of the net. Luckly, /m/ also has a very storng love for "so bad it's good" works like Cross Ange etc.
Sure thing. Since Sasword is back, I wonder if he'll ever return to doing the Great Mazinger anime.