How old is she?

>>13763568
I think 19? In Japan idols can't be older than 25 anyway

>>13763568
Old enough to accept gallons of my SEED Destiny into her ripe womb.

17. obviously she must be a high schooler.

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>>13763750

>>13763716
>>13763750
There's no official age? how can that be

>>13763750
In 2059 she is 17 but by 2067 she is 25.

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>>13763817
I can't find it for some reason (doesn't help that the official website is dead).
I found heights, though, that's something

>>13763716
Do you know SMAP or TOKIO which is very popular idol team consist of idols in 40's?

>>13763817
The thing is, age doesn't seem to actually be important in Macross-verse.

Mylene got her driving license when she was 10.

>>13763884

What supplementary source is that from?

>>13763884
>super dimensional fortress manlets

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>>13763568
Too old.

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>>13763744
She'd rather swallow

>>13764048
>cast averages out 6 feet of height or something like that
>even female characters tend to be 170-180 cm tall
>manlets

It's just Ranka and Luka, but they're the token little sister/fake shota anyway.

Gamlin is 17
Misa is 19
Let that sink in lads

>>13764221
Source?

>>13763931
Googled because i was hoping for a hot milf group. now slightly disappointed

>>13764246
Dude the filename is nothing but the source complete with translation group and everything

>>13764221
Lewd

Enough

>>13764234
Jesus Yamato

>>13763938

I feel like that's how it is because they're not really cars, they're car shaped public transit things for personal use with heavy computer guidance.

Now everything else about Mylene, living on her own, etc, is bullshit.

>>13764234
Gamlin was 19 at the start of the series and 21 by Dynamite 7

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>>13763568

Honestly I thought 20 (or more). Seeing how she was brought in to judge OTHER idol contests and liked the dispense "sagely wisdom" and whatnot.

No idea though. I assumed she was multiple years older than Alto, but younger than Klan Klang.

>>13763884
Bobby is one tall faggot.

>>13764596
I'm surprised there aren't official ages. Didn't the original and 7 have them? Like Misa was confirmed 19 due to her birth date

I always thought Sheryl was a few years older than Alto at least. Since they have a similar "Minmay" and "Misa" thing going on with Ranka/Sheryl

>>13764596
>>13765272
Sheryl is officially 17 at the start of Frontier. Wasn't this already common knowledge?

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>>13765272

They might've pulled a Tenchi, where ages vary between versions (radically in that case), and the art books are pretty sparing with that information. The only time I've seen ages given for the cast of Tenchi Universe was in an art book for a Sega Saturn game that featured Tsunami of all people.

I think it comes down to just finding the right art book that actually lists that stuff and taking that at its word.

>>13765354

Huh. I didn't know that. Not to doubt you, but was it listed on a website or what?

>>13763931
the rule only applies to female idols.

Old enough to know better but young enough to not care.

>>13765354
That's her official age but her real age is unknown since she was living orphaned in the slums of Galaxy for an indeterminate time.

>>13763568
how old? old enough to suck my dick!

>>13763568
Who cares, this franchise is dead to me.

>>13763884
She never had an official age anyway. If the film's backstory is anything to go by, then she can't be older than Alto.

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>>13765883
Butt hurt about the first episode of delta?

>>13766007
>>13765354
I always pictured her as being 17/18 just like Alto.

>>13766025
No, waifufaggotry.

>>13766045
So dead as soon as the narrator said LIN MINMEI with an echo effect?

>>13765883
>>13766045
>this franchise is dead to me
Sure it is faggot. That's why you keep coming back to these thread to fap to your idol waifu.

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damn I miss Sheryl

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The fuck is this thing? I saw the Minmay doll, but this thing that's half-covered by the frying pan only appears for like a single frame.

>>13766283
Mylene's valk?

or the girl transformer

>>13766045
You're like 30+ years too late to be complaining about this

>>13764227
>Ranka and Luka, but they're the token little sister/fake shota
What makes Luka fake? Because Nanase wasn't much older than him?

>>13763568
Old enough to get plowed by her manager on a nightly basis.

>>13764592

Gamlin looks way older than that.

>>13765871

Yeah. It's like how Yoko was supposed to be like only 16 or something according to official ages, but then they said it's actually not correct because nobody on the planet tells time correctly or something.

I dunno. Anime ages are usually bullshit numbers just picked because it's the standard anime age, which characters looking and acting nothing like they're supposed to be.

>>13764059
I don't get it. I know that Quattro blew off that one chick till she went to get mind-raped by Scirroco, but it's that weirdo, Char, that has the loli complex.

>>13766311
Oh, delta integrale. Nice.

>>13768359
Do you think Grace has hidden retractable cyborg penis?

>>13768437
>but then they said it's actually not correct because nobody on the planet tells time correctly or something.

They said it's because the underground count isn't necessarily right, due to lack of sun, but that doesn't work all that well since it'd mean other characters have lower ages too, which really doesn't work for Simon.

>>13766283
Look at the commercials while Astro Boy is on in SnT, the same ugly valk toy is advertised there

>>13768665
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/48985/87ae12e59d/

SCANSLATION FUCKING WHERE?!

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>>13769094
>>13766283
I never noticed it in the series before but when I saw this in the movie it definitely caught my eye.

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>>13770976

>>13766118
Eat shit nigger.

>>13771817
>MUH FRANCHISE ISNT ABOUT IDOLS

We must have been watching the wrong Macross then

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>>13771817
>taking over day to respond with a retarded half-ass retort
But faggot I can't do that. Your idol waifu will feel betrayed if you don't eat her shit and pass it to someone else.

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>>13771817
>Being this buttdevastated

>>13768432
It's not just that. The voice always gave me the impression that he was in his earlyish 20's in the TV series.

>>13766186
The hell? Is that a Bubba Gump restaurant? I thought they only had those in the weird corners of the States.

>>13769022
Simon might be older. It depends on how their calendar has drifted.

>>13764249
I dunno why I laughed at this reply. Maybe because I imagined your righteous exasperation.

>>13772138
There's a surprising number of them, including three in Japan.

>>13768359
So...by Grace? I guess she uses a strap-on.
Man, that'd be hot as fuck.

>>13763568
As old as you need her to be.

>>13772130
Keep in mind that Zechs, also voiced by Koyasu, is also 19 during the events of Wing.

It's not just that his sexy fucking voice makes his characters sound older, but the fact that anybody in any anime ever is improbably young in order to appeal more to the teenagers that are the target demographic.

>>13772166
Follow the response chain, genius. Better yet, I'll make it easy for ya; allow me to direct you to >>13770904.

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God damn it, Kawamori. You cheeky motherfucker. Why the fuck did you have to go and do that?

>>13773027
He was obviously trolling all of us in that episode. I still remember it well 8 years ago.

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GOD DAMN IT, KAWAMORI

FUCK YOU SO HARD
FUCK YOU SO HARD RIGHT NOW
SERIOUSLY
GOD FUCKING DAMN IT

Seriously though, I had this spoiled for me long ago, but it still hits in the fucking feels.

>>13773027
That episode was a classic
As soon as the word pineapple was mentioned my heart started pounding

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>>13773027
Pray for him anons

>>13773430
retconned in the movies

>>13773027
He expected people to give a shit about a bland character for some reason....didn't actually work.
>>13773715
Who?

>>13773781
Funny thing is, Roy is pretty bland himself too. I dunno why people hype him up. Take your nostalgia glasses off, he barely had any lines and was very randomly offed less than halfway in for no explicable reason.

>>13763568
She looks at least early twenties.

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>>13763568
Too old

>>13774765
Because Roy's a cool guy. There's not much else to it but it is a cool guy.

>offed less than halfway in for no explicable reason.
Why would you not expect people to die in a war?

>>13774798
It's not just that. Roy's death felt so underwhelming, especially because he's touted as the "best" pilot. It's not even that he gets rekt or anything in battle, he just sustains minor injuries to his craft and later dies of blood loss.

>>13763568
Around 17.

>>13774770
I refuse to believe there's no official ages for Frontier in some kind of art book or website. Even fucking G-Reco has them

>>13764596
Because she has been an idol since she was around 10. So yeah she's experienced by virtue of being a child star.

>>13766030
Alto was 16 at the beginning of the series.

How should someone go about watching/getting in to Macross? I remember seeing bits and pieces of Frontier and thought it was pretty interesting.

Don't mean to be a dumbass, but my inane question hardly warrants starting a new thread over.

>>13767877
Luka only looks like a shouta.

>>13774872
Like with everything else, production order.

>>13774857
Sometimes you just get bad luck. Just like Kakizaki. He just wasn't fast enough (both in TV and DYRL)

>>13768359
The legal age in Macross universe has to be around 14.

>>13774872
Macross is literally one of the easiest franchises to go in production order for.

Wikipedia literally has a timeline for when each show came out in a nice big chart so you don't even have to do any research

>>13774798
>Because Roy's a cool guy.
And so is Ozma. So it looks like he matches your criteria then.

>>13774884
I'm not the guy calling him bland you were originally talking to. Roy and Ozma are both cool guys

>>13774876
>>13774883
Perfect, thanks. That definitely makes it easy to watch.

>>13774884
>And so is Ozma.
Not really, he's just bland.

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>>13774872

>>13774879
Like I said, she's old enough.

>>13774907
>he's just an asshole

FTFY

>>13774860

She's young enough to enroll in Alto's and co's school for a while, yet old enough that she doesn't have to go if she doesn't want to (I think in Japan you can opt out of school earlier than the US, which is 16)

So yeah she's probably like 17-18

>>13775070
Actually in the Frontier fleet you become a legal adult at 17.

The real Sheryl (some Universal bunny and Northern Cross)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qs04gOI3ADM

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>>13774907
We're talking about Ozma though not Roy.

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Someone red-pill me on this. How did she become a Miclone almost instantaneously between cuts?

>>13775596
there is no such thing as Micloning. there are two Klans.

>>13763568

Old enough to bleed, old enough to breed.

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>>13775500
Funny thing is in Frontier era I saw May'n concert video and thought she's old and ugly, with that long and curly hair.
But her new look with short hair is amazing, can't believe it's the same person. Them eyes too.

>>13775596
It's Protoculture, I ain't gotta explain shit.

>>13775607
Double the fun.

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And thus concludes my Journey Through the Macross (yeah, there's still the movies to watch, which I'll get on to later). This marathon took me far less time than when I went through Gundam a decade ago, it helps that there are only three series instead of 12+.

I don't get the hate for Frontier, it was mediocre at worst but by no means terrible. Sure, Alto's an idiot when it comes to recognizing love, but so was Hikaru, and there weren't any literally worthless characters that only exist to be hated like Katz or Hathaway. The whole kabuki side-plot ended up being a dead end, but it didn't overly detract from the show.

I guess it comes down to the whole "military transforming jets versus singing magical idols" argument that I've seen in every Macross thread. It feels to me that the movies and OVAs are written to pander to the military aspect more, while in the series the idols and singing take center stage. It doesn't make sense to argue about which is more important, you just accept that this is how Kawamori wanted it done.

My only real complaint about Frontier is that the movements of the mecha felt too smooth (not that Gundam is free of such criticism). Things like Klan slapping Michael's Valkyrie in the face and him reacting like he got slapped when in fact he's in the cockpit in the chest, Macross Quarter being so fast and human-like despite being the size of a ship, the shell on Island 1 closing so quickly, those sorts of things. In Macross 7 you see Battle 7's movements being more slow and deliberate, and City 7's shell takes several minutes to close, whereas with Macross Quarter it does things like put away the aviation deck/shield in an instant before firing the Macross Cannon.

As a whole, I can't say that I hated any part of Macross, it feels like a fairly stable franchise. With Gundam there are black sheep like Destiny and AGE, shows you wish you could blue-pill on. Not really the case with Macross, I didn't regret any of it.

>>13775926
I'm doing a journey through Macross too. Personally I thought Plus was kind of not great, just really really pretty and has been the biggest weak link for me.

>>13775926
Well you can attribute the smoother movement to technological advancement.

How did you feel about the SKY END?

/a/ and /m/ were butthurt for months

>>13775972
He fucked Sheryl.
Nothing can change that.

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>>13775926
>it feels like a fairly stable franchise.
>there are no black sheeps

>>13775926
>and there weren't any literally worthless characters that only exist to be hated like Katz or Hathaway.
Luca, Leon and Ranka

>>13775584
>We're talking about Ozma
Yeah that who I said was bland, Ozma not Roy.

>>13776260
Roy is bland.

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>>13775926
>As a whole, I can't say that I hated any part of Macross, it feels like a fairly stable franchise.

>>13776262
He's not.

>>13776243
>>13776254
These. Seriously what the fuck is this idiot talking about? The franchise is the exact opposite of stable and Frontier's biggest problem was that just about everyone was worthless.

>>13776263
I swear I see this same shitty looking reaction image posted here at least once a day. Why is that?

>>13776269
Damn right he's not, he's bagel bite as fuck

>>13776295
Buttmad SDF fag.

>>13776269
He's a Sleggar Law ripoff. At least Ozma tries to be a different character.

>>13773430
The music was perfect.
>Cut the music when he got stabbed
>No music while he guns down the Vajra
>Said Vajra explodes as the music starts at the chorus
>Roll credits as Alto scream MICHEEEEELLLLLLLL
Frontier was good when it came to playing with the music for maximum emotional impact.

>>13776263

Eh, when Zero and some parts of 7 are the worst you can do, that's really not all that bad.

Compared to, say, Gundam's low points (DESTINY, AGE), Zero's pretty much a godsend by comparison.

>>13776594
>that's really not all that bad.
Not really, there's at least some good parts to AGE and Destiny that you just see squandered due to piss poor execution whereas Zero is a failed experiment with very little redeeming qualities and 7 is just mind numbinglu repetitive.

Anyone still have that SDF = Frontier pic?

>>13775951
Plus's selling points are god-tier itano circus/fighting and music. Also YA-HOO

Other than that, there's not much to it.

Still better than 7.

>>13776243
Yeah, but you can't hate this battle choreography; https://youtu.be/m-8bDpW823o

>>13776735
>>13776735
Why would you even need a pic? There's so many callbacks, it kind of got tiring.

>>13781602
>Daisy Ivanov
>Daisy
wat

>>13781592
>Other than that, there's not much to it.
That's because that was the whole fucking point of it. Kawamori and Watanabe did a shitton of research (including going to air force bases and talking to crews and pilots) and strived to make it the most accurate representation of fake dogfighting that they possibly could.

If you watched Plus expecting some kind of deep storytelling and complex characters then you completely missed the point of what it was trying to be.

>>13781604

It wasn't an official pic. Long ago, someone here did a pic of SDF characters given the hair color of the Frontier characters (replace Max' blue hair with blond to compare him with Michel, Minmay's blue hair with green to compare her to Ranka, etc.).

>>13781666
Plus wasn't even going to be a Macross anime originally. They changed it later on in production. It shows since a lot of Macross elements are just shoe horned in there.

>>13781767
>Plus wasn't even going to be a Macross anime originally
Is there a story behind this?

>>13781663
It's a nickname

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>>13781953
http://www.macrossworld.com/macross/translations/_translations_advancedvalkyrie.htm

>>13775636
went to both her SF concerts, her voice is better on stage then in her recorded works. also got an autograph, she is a really sweet person

>>13781988
Guy like Ivanov has 'Daisy' as nickname?
>>13782092
I wanted to go to her concert too, but I don't know any songs other than the ones from Mac F

>>13781767

I know some of the designs from 7 and plus were reused from a Kawamori-designed model kit line that never saw the light of day. Like the Invader.

And that Escaflowne started off as some strange Macross-esque project as well.

>>13763884
>Ranka is 158
Damn, she is way tallen than me.

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>>13782060
I don't get this image,In real life when we make military weapons nations tend to copy each other when a new innovation is created in the field leading to similar looking equipment.
I know Macross is an anime, but it has a quirk of trying to make sense of the technological development in-universe. So when looking at it from that perspective I don't see the similarities the VF-25 may share with former craft as a con, I think it rather helps to solidify the fact that they want to show the audience this progression of technology so that they can create a believable setting.

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>>13785380
It's just showing design cues it has in common with past VFs.