So I've just finished Samurai Flamenco, and seen a little bit of some of this stuff, and thinking I want to get into it. What's the best Japanese superhero series? I.E. best production values, least cheesy writing.
I was just browsing on Netflix for something to marathon with a friend. We saw it was short so we went for it. Now we wanna watch some toku.
Just because it's what menco was homaging doesn't mean it's what I'm after. Menco piqued my interest but I want something I can take a little more seriously.
Then you're gonna be disappointed. SamFlam was a huge tribute specifically to Showa era tokusatsu, which clearly you're too high-brow for so you're probably shit out of luck.
They make tokusatsu for kids, not for pretentious dickbags. Maybe stick to western superheroes.
> I.E. best production values, least cheesy writing.
Huh? Why are you even interested in Japanese superheroes if not for the cheese? m8, you're doing it wrong.
There are some Japanese hero shows that can be taken seriously, yeah, but they're few number. Masked Rider Kuuga is something that I would highly recommend but not before desensitising yourself to the whole rubber suit montser thing through it's cheesier brethren. You're not going to be able to take any of the serious shows seriously if you are still thinking 'this looks so silly'.
>Japanese superhero series
>least cheesy writing.
You're coming into this with the strangest expectations. I suppose Gaim would be your best shot if you can stomach the first 16 or so episodes cause the cliffhangers only start luring in you every episode around then.
I dunno, Samumenco's first half had not-that-cheesy writing, he did it because a) it was fun and b) he had a strong sense of justice. He had real depth to him and sounded passionate and serious, even when he was a hero.
Shinkenger and Kamen Rider W are both pretty good entry points.
If you want something a little more serious, you want GARO.
>a) it was fun and b) he had a strong sense of justice
Might have been plain cheddar but that was clearly cheese you were watching. It's not like character depth and outlandishness are inversely related.
That sounds pretty cheesy to me.
No man, /a/ sent me here when I posted this there, I wasn't sure if that was the right place but I wasn't gonna post to the fucking giga-weebs in /jp/ If anyone would be a snob about it, it'd be them.
I've never been to /v/ except once to ask what good mecha anime there was, and all I got was sub-normie shit like EVA and Gurren Lagann.
>I want something I can take a little more seriously
I'm not trying to be a dick here, but you're looking at the wrong genre. Even the more "serious" superhero tokus like Kuuga are still childrens shows. Garo is intended for older audiences, but it's not really a superhero show and honestly it's not especially good.
If you want to get into toku, accept it for what it is - a blend of serious and goofy, stupid and cool.
I recommend Shinkenger, Boukenger or Dekaranger; and Kamen Rider Black, Kamen Rider Kuuga and Kamen Rider W. Watch the first episode of each and see what pleases you more.
They're good if you want to know (or already know, but want to see) how things work in these type of show, but is afraid of something TOO childish (I mean, they are all meant to be watched by children, but some are more clever and less obvious than others).
I'll dump random webm's from shows.
Pick up whatever you find interesting.
Agito isn't particularly flashy among toku shows, but that also means there's less that could go horribly wrong in the visuals department.
It's all about the cheese.
Most of them ARE made for kids.
Even the adult-oriented ones are made in reference to the shows made for kids, so they are cheesy too.
Because they actually got a budget after Kuuga and they could coast on TV ratings over toy sales before Ryuki really placed emphasis on the franchise having to do that. Less gimmicky toys to sell equals more fights with cool choreography without CGI attack spamming.
I want to say "because every show afterward needed to cut to closeups of someone's hand fiddling with a trinket several times each fight" but I'm not completely sure.
Metal Heroes vary in writing quality, but tend to be consistently good more often than not (at least until things went wrong with Blue Swat). Winspector and Metalder are pretty good starts.
Telling others what they "deserve" to watch? when they're just here to learn about the same interests people here share? You're no ally of justice. You're a prick.
Start with Kamen Rider Kuuga, webm related. If you like it, watch Agito.
The rest of Heisei Kamen Rider varies on the silly to serious scale.
Considering he said the first half of Flamenco wasn't cheesy, I'm gonna go ahead and guess that his expectations are pretty low.
I'm pretty sure he just means not Power Rangers level of cheese, which can get incredibly bad.
Japanese super heroes are not exclusive to tokusatsu.
Instead of even suggesting tokusatsu, suggesting any of Ishinomori's original manga (Kamen Rider, Cyborg 009) (or even his anime) is a far better way for anyone to get introduced to the world of Japanese super heroes than watching 50 episodes of some live action Toei commercial.
There's a reason why no one even cares about watching the Toei Mazinger or Getter here. They're literal toy commercials that in my opinion are vastly inferior to the original manga.
You should do the same with Kamen Rider and other superheroes.
Watch the original Kamen Rider series then. People would say not to since you want to avoid cheese but with that description you'll like it.
At least the first twelve episodes. Main actor gets injured and series noticeably changes for better or worse.
Try Kamen Rider W and work your way forward to Ghost if you want shows with mostly good writing (with one very, very notable exception) and a good standard of what to expect from toku's usual production values.
There's also GARO, but GARO is ridiculously high-budget and will basically make the whole rest of the genre look cheap by comparison.
>deleting out of shame
Don't worry anon. I caught that.
>Kamen Rider Blade
You my friend, have excellent taste.
I'd say check out some sentai before Kamen rider if you want to get a taste of toku. Specifically Shinkenger. The enemies were hilarious and menacing. Great group dynamic between the main actors. All in all a really fun show.
Other things to check out would be Kamen Rider ZO as it's a self contained story in a 40 min short film, or Kuuga.
You actually sound like someone who'd enjoy Kabuto. Of all the rider shows it felt the most anime, and it has the coolest suits so fuck it try it out.
I'd actually recommend Kabuto.
It has some cheesy writing, especially for the comedy, but its visual effects and suits hold up better than any other Toei tv show even more recent ones.