So I've just finished Samurai Flamenco, and seen a little

>>13753731
Why would you watch Samumenco without having seen any toku? That's like having Watchmen be your first superhero movie. It loses any value it has.

> best production values, least cheesy writing.

So in other words the exact opposite of the series SamFlam was paying tribute to

>>13753758
I was just browsing on Netflix for something to marathon with a friend. We saw it was short so we went for it. Now we wanna watch some toku.

>>13753763
Just because it's what menco was homaging doesn't mean it's what I'm after. Menco piqued my interest but I want something I can take a little more seriously.

>>13753731
Agito, Faiz, Boukenger, Nexus, Ultra Q and Andro Melos are the only ones worth your time. Everything else is just "okay" at best.

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>>13753780
Then you're gonna be disappointed. SamFlam was a huge tribute specifically to Showa era tokusatsu, which clearly you're too high-brow for so you're probably shit out of luck.

>>13753731
Watch Magiranger, Fivemen, Garo S2, Gridman, Ultraman Max, and Barattack. Those will get you covered

Kamen Rider Kuuga is a good start

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>>13753780

They make tokusatsu for kids, not for pretentious dickbags. Maybe stick to western superheroes.

>>13753824
>>13753866
>pretentious
>high-brow
How the fuck can I be a snob in a genre I know next to nothing about?

>>13753796
Most of those didn't have much in the way of production values.

>>13753731
> I.E. best production values, least cheesy writing.
Huh? Why are you even interested in Japanese superheroes if not for the cheese? m8, you're doing it wrong.

There are some Japanese hero shows that can be taken seriously, yeah, but they're few number. Masked Rider Kuuga is something that I would highly recommend but not before desensitising yourself to the whole rubber suit montser thing through it's cheesier brethren. You're not going to be able to take any of the serious shows seriously if you are still thinking 'this looks so silly'.

>>13753888
We're just bitter that you'll never be able to experience Samumenco for the first time, the way you were supposed to. That's all.

>>13753731
>Japanese superhero series
>least cheesy writing.
You're coming into this with the strangest expectations. I suppose Gaim would be your best shot if you can stomach the first 16 or so episodes cause the cliffhangers only start luring in you every episode around then.

>>13753908
I dunno, Samumenco's first half had not-that-cheesy writing, he did it because a) it was fun and b) he had a strong sense of justice. He had real depth to him and sounded passionate and serious, even when he was a hero.

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>>13753731
Shinkenger and Kamen Rider W are both pretty good entry points.

If you want something a little more serious, you want GARO.

>>13753925
>Samumenco's first half had not-that-cheesy writing,

You're fucking kidding me right?

>>13753731
This isn't what you asked for, but if you want another anime that does a similar premise in a different way, try Concrete Revolutio. First season just finished airing.

>>13753949
Premise?

>>13753925
>a) it was fun and b) he had a strong sense of justice
Might have been plain cheddar but that was clearly cheese you were watching. It's not like character depth and outlandishness are inversely related.

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>>13753925
That sounds pretty cheesy to me.

>>13753954
The concept of googling is truly lost on you isn't it?

>>13753943
>>13753958
>>13753959
I guess I dunno what cheesy means.
I just don't want one-dimensional characters.

>>13753888
That's the only way to be a snob around here.
Have you seen any of the shitpost here at /m/?

>>13754030
No man, /a/ sent me here when I posted this there, I wasn't sure if that was the right place but I wasn't gonna post to the fucking giga-weebs in /jp/ If anyone would be a snob about it, it'd be them.
I've never been to /v/ except once to ask what good mecha anime there was, and all I got was sub-normie shit like EVA and Gurren Lagann.

>>13753780
>I want something I can take a little more seriously

I'm not trying to be a dick here, but you're looking at the wrong genre. Even the more "serious" superhero tokus like Kuuga are still childrens shows. Garo is intended for older audiences, but it's not really a superhero show and honestly it's not especially good.

If you want to get into toku, accept it for what it is - a blend of serious and goofy, stupid and cool.

>>13754089
Well, I'm sorry to say welcome to /m/
Your chances are better if you lurk a bit first. Maybe someone will ask about the same thing and you won't get bashed around

>>13754089

I would think of Drive as most similar to what you're comfortable with. Then go with Den-O, OOOs, and see from there

Sentai, Zyuuden Sentai Kyroryuger

>>13753731
I recommend Shinkenger, Boukenger or Dekaranger; and Kamen Rider Black, Kamen Rider Kuuga and Kamen Rider W. Watch the first episode of each and see what pleases you more.

They're good if you want to know (or already know, but want to see) how things work in these type of show, but is afraid of something TOO childish (I mean, they are all meant to be watched by children, but some are more clever and less obvious than others).

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I'll dump random webm's from shows.

Pick up whatever you find interesting.

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Agito isn't particularly flashy among toku shows, but that also means there's less that could go horribly wrong in the visuals department.

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It's all about the cheese.

Most of them ARE made for kids.

Even the adult-oriented ones are made in reference to the shows made for kids, so they are cheesy too.

>>13754353
Which one is that?

https://a.pomf.cat/wdidad.webm

Is it cheating to post bigger/longer clips that also have sound?

>>13754361
Shaider Next Gen.

>>13754342
>>13754328
Why was Agito the last Rider show to have consistantly good action scenes?

>>13754407
>Shaider Next Gen.
Thank you sir

>>13754386
Is this supposed to be like a heavy, impactful feelsy scene? I feel like that's the case.

>>13754413
Because they actually got a budget after Kuuga and they could coast on TV ratings over toy sales before Ryuki really placed emphasis on the franchise having to do that. Less gimmicky toys to sell equals more fights with cool choreography without CGI attack spamming.

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>>13754413
I want to say "because every show afterward needed to cut to closeups of someone's hand fiddling with a trinket several times each fight" but I'm not completely sure.

>>13754439
I'm not sure. I only watched Ginga S when Tsuburaya put up episodes weekly on their YouTube channel and I missed that particular one.

>>13754464
>spending that long on one mook when the last one went down with one hit
Who's the real bad guy here?

>>13754479
He was drilling 'im for information. Probably got off lighter than the other guy.

>>13753731
The one you posted is Kabuto, it's pretty good.

>>13753731
Metal Heroes vary in writing quality, but tend to be consistently good more often than not (at least until things went wrong with Blue Swat). Winspector and Metalder are pretty good starts.

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>>13754544
I enjoyed Metalder.

>>13753780
You sir, don't deserve to watch tokusatsu.

>>13754558
>Don't deserve
Who are you to say who does and does not deserve to watch shows about people in costumes kicking the shit out of each other?

>>13753731
Toku is actually really bad. Remember that it's cookie-cutter made childrens TV.

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>>13754558

Telling others what they "deserve" to watch? when they're just here to learn about the same interests people here share? You're no ally of justice. You're a prick.

>>13753731
Kamen Rider Kuuga and Agito.

>>13754089
>>13753888

See what I mean about being a snob? >>13754558

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>>13753731
Start with Kamen Rider Kuuga, webm related. If you like it, watch Agito.

The rest of Heisei Kamen Rider varies on the silly to serious scale.

>>13754578
>>13754588
>>13754657
The dude expects something he's not going to get. Therefore he doesn't deserve to watch it because all he's gonna do is bitch about it.

>>13754845
Considering he said the first half of Flamenco wasn't cheesy, I'm gonna go ahead and guess that his expectations are pretty low.

I'm pretty sure he just means not Power Rangers level of cheese, which can get incredibly bad.

>>13754503
You made that up. Like why did you even bother?

>>13754675
Why is that so horribly upscaled?

>>13753858
I think this is the best start.

>>13755147
Let's start our age from zero.

>>13755156
You know, letting go of the accelerator, now is the time, etc.

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>>13753763
>>13753824
>>13753866
>>13753903
>>13753908
>>13754115
>>13754845
Japanese super heroes are not exclusive to tokusatsu.

Instead of even suggesting tokusatsu, suggesting any of Ishinomori's original manga (Kamen Rider, Cyborg 009) (or even his anime) is a far better way for anyone to get introduced to the world of Japanese super heroes than watching 50 episodes of some live action Toei commercial.

There's a reason why no one even cares about watching the Toei Mazinger or Getter here. They're literal toy commercials that in my opinion are vastly inferior to the original manga.

You should do the same with Kamen Rider and other superheroes.

>>13755169
Oh hey it's the OTHER pretentious pseudo-intellectual twat who never shuts the fuck up like a broken record about muh manga. Been a while man, how are you?

>>13753925
Watch the original Kamen Rider series then. People would say not to since you want to avoid cheese but with that description you'll like it. At least the first twelve episodes. Main actor gets injured and series noticeably changes for better or worse.

>>13753954
Think of it as the Watchmen of Japanese superheroes.

>>13754588
Explains why ti belongs on /m/

>>13753731
Try Kamen Rider W and work your way forward to Ghost if you want shows with mostly good writing (with one very, very notable exception) and a good standard of what to expect from toku's usual production values.

There's also GARO, but GARO is ridiculously high-budget and will basically make the whole rest of the genre look cheap by comparison.

>>13754974
Because whoever made the webm was retarded when Kuuga until now had only existed on DVD.

>>13753731
Sun Vulcan. I promise.

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>>13755982
>deleting out of shame
Don't worry anon. I caught that.

>>13753731
>What's the best Japanese superhero series?

If you're talking toku, I'd say Kamen Rider Blade.

If you're talking anime, One-Punch Man.

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>>13756493
>Kamen Rider Blade

You my friend, have excellent taste.

>>13756493
>Kamen Rider Blade
>One-Punch Man
Kiss your sister

>>13755169

But the Mazinger Z manga is really bad.

>>13756944
The current DP Scanlations release of it is gimped anyway, because two different publication materials (Shonen Jump and TV Magazine) got mixed up somehow.

>>13755948
I recall the description for the blu-ray sets also mention it being an upscale, but it turned out they'll still use better masters than the blurry nightmare the DVDs had.

>>13754089
>I've never been to /v/ except once to ask what good mecha anime there was

wait what

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>>13753731
I'd say check out some sentai before Kamen rider if you want to get a taste of toku. Specifically Shinkenger. The enemies were hilarious and menacing. Great group dynamic between the main actors. All in all a really fun show.

Other things to check out would be Kamen Rider ZO as it's a self contained story in a 40 min short film, or Kuuga.

You actually sound like someone who'd enjoy Kabuto. Of all the rider shows it felt the most anime, and it has the coolest suits so fuck it try it out.

>>13753731


I'd actually recommend Kabuto.

It has some cheesy writing, especially for the comedy, but its visual effects and suits hold up better than any other Toei tv show even more recent ones.

>>13756944
The first volume of Great Mazinger is pretty good.