Crunchyroll announced the addition of Schwarzes Marken to its winter 2016 anime simulcast lineup today. The Muv-Luv Alternative spin-off is set to premiere on January 10 at 10:35am Pacific Time, with new episodes debuting every Sunday.
Schwarzes Marken will be available to Crunchyroll members worldwide except for Asia.
ML was only sorta okay to begin with. Then the writers got too high on their own message / the fanbase latched on too much to the "edgy political realness" scenes (i.e. the worst parts of the initial trilogy) / some combination of the two and it turned itself into utter shit trying too hard to be 2grim4u.
I'm a sucker for anything Cold War, so I'm definitely gonna watch it.
are we ready for the shitstorm that will come with the first episode this sunday?
>tfw SM won't have the same QUALITY charm TE had
>tfw SM won't actually be good enough to give a fuck about during broadcast
I'm not saying I watched TE ironically, but the zero budget look of the show on broadcast combined with the incredibly out of place first opening went a long way towards me remembering that show more fondly than it ought to.
Everyone has their Frodo images and responses ready, right?
At least mub rub frodos are less frustrating to deal with than anons who can't or don't pay attention to certain shows and then complain about them on this board
This. 3edge5me linear vn with no hope or message is just shock jockeying. There's nothing wrong with killing off characters, but meaningless deaths are exactly that. I wish mla was more like fafner.
>with no hope or message
But the message is that the peaceful daily, almost boring, lives in Extra should be cherished. Meaningless deaths in Alt reinforce that. Not all stories have to have happy endings or be uplifting to tell its message.
Why did Japan never buy F-5s or F-16s when they would be much better for the kind of close range agility that their sword obsession demands compared to the F-4 or F-15?
The Eagle should be expected to shit on the Viper's combat radius in Muv Luv as it does IRL.
On top of that, it has amazing mobility at high velocity (IRL, at least), so it shouldn't be difficult to understand why Japan would like a long range machine with very good maneuvering performance against a threat that's as close to home as the BETA.
Plus it's what they use IRL. Being able to push China's shit in from the comfort of the island chain homeland is pretty sweet tech, wouldn't you agree?
>日時:01/09(土) 開場:20:50 開演:21:00
Niconico stream before the anime airs will have the cast on it.
And they'll be driving some kind of Schwarz truck around.
The Niconico stream will probably be region-locked, too
I know right; it doesn't even include Lise or Beatrix on it.
With the modern, TE or SM style designs, it'd actually be hot.
>"However each [person] has their own preferences, and as for me, I like Meiya and Yuuko the most, haha."
I just like the MC and the romantic themes. The cool robots are a bonus. :T
>That " Go ahead, make my day " face
Yuuko's entire body is really saying " Don't fuck with me " at all times.
All the sisters are hot.
Was the KnG anime any good (both as an adaption faithful to the source material and on it's own merits)?
I want to know what I should expect from SM's anime.
Yuuko's all about sending mixed signals. Sure, her the words coming out of her mouth and her body language might be saying "don't fuck with me," but her tone of voice, clothes she wears, and lustful eyes say otherwise.
I like how you could replace Yuuko's name with Beatrix and it would still work perfectly. Beatrix is just a copy of best girl after all.
Even Yuuko doesn't think she's a good person. I'll give you that Beatrix is way more evil and sadistic, but they have a lot of similarities.
Hey, she might be pol pot tier evil, but she isn't a whore.
I wanted this one, but that nose area.
I noticed it on the sketch but I hoped they would fix it once it was colored but I think it looks worse now.
I can't decide from which store to pre-order now.
Yuuko was rather pragmatic and utilitarian about the shit. She did evil because she had to if she wanted to save humanity. Beatrix in comparison does evil because she enjoys it. The BETA and deteriorating condition in the DDR just give her an excuse to exercise her sadistic tendencies.
Yuuko is definitely more Neutral Evil.
>Beatrix in comparison does evil because she enjoys it.
Lost me here.
The PV shows smirking sadistically as she executes bound prisoners. It be one thing if she just treated it like it was a job (like many RL SS did), but here it looks like she's getting off to it.
There's also a scene in the LN (right after Sylwia smacks Katia around for trying to befriend her) where it reads like she's getting wet thinking about all the shit she'll do to the 666 when she gets them.
It's not bait, it's in the official anime:
I can understand summary executions to an extent, but someone who gets their jollies from it is a complete sociopath.
The anime means nothing to me as it seem to have changed some characters way too deeply. And in the LN, it's really not that obvious that it's not just a troll/joke or just a passing thought.
Are you sure you're just not misreading the LNs? Sometimes things which are obvious in a visual medium aren't so apparent in writing, especially if it's not in your primary language.
Well, this is BiS's description/foreshadowing on Beato:
>If my memory was correct, that name meant "someone who brings fortune".
>Ironically though, many girls with that name were doomed to a wretched life——which was confirmed by the experience of many nobles' in my mind. Infertility, becoming a widow, premature death ——hardly what you'd call good.
A million dollars to launch Koukis singing career.
>changed some characters way too deeply
The anime is an official source, and is probably what most people will end up going off of anyways. I doubt the LN is really going to matter that much in the long run (kinda like the KnG anime is what is remembered, not the VN).
You won't, because the anime doesn't cover Requiem.
Japanese use a wide variety of words to describe something in details, so you can have a really good idea of what's going on. I have read it several times, and I'm pretty sure ( Like, 95% sure ) that I never saw anything pointing to Beatrix enjoying killing people. She don't mind doing it, she don't mind killing innocent people too, that's why she is seen as evil, but she was never enjoying it.
I will wait for the anime to air before saying that it's really changing them too much, maybe it's just the PV montage.
And I don't care if it's the anime that people will end up going with. Good for them, I will stay with the true source ( And the VN, as I hope the second part will respect the LN, first part was pretty much okay in regard of its original material )
Yuuko isn't evil, she does what she has to.
She avoid it, but she don't really mind doing it if it has a point
like the civilians trying to pass the wall, because a reunification would make her to lose the little soviet support she needs
Your waifu's going to get shit on harder than Takayuki and Mitsuki after the KnG adaption, while Iris is held up as the gold standard of morality. You OK with that?
It'll all be Iris, Katia, and Lise service. Don't really care unless I get to see some Beatrix, Pham, Sylwia and Kirke involved.
That's kinda delusional. Shits already gone tits up, what do the Soviets matter? She should've gotten with the program.
She doesn't necessarily needs to have the Soviet direct support, but she needs the DDR to remain a Soviet place. She wants to get to the top of the Stasi and gain entire control over the DDR. Axmann will not let her do that ( Nor would Schmidt had ), so she needs the support of Soviets because it's the easiest way to pass through them. Even without them she probably would have gotten there anyway, but if the Soviets just give the DDR to the West, all her plans are dead. She won't be able to gain any power in the West, especially when the new government, probably formed from rebels support, would see her just as an evil Stasi officer. Would have been lucky enough if they did not just execute her.
I think it's more that Iris is a rebel leader that keeps her from making any meaningful deals with Heim. She was apparently open to compromise up until Theo bailed Iris from her grasp.
Soviets barely mattered after the majority of the NVA and citizenry decided they'd had enough. Even if she'd reestablished an iron grip over the DDR like she wanted, things would've just blown up again later.
MiGs are best TSFs, especially when flying dem Werewolf colors.
It's hard to see how the USSR could exert any influence over the GDR when they have a giant wall of BETA in between them now. The GDR should have quit the Warsaw Pact and thrown in with NATO a long time ago.
That's the point.
She was ok to deal with the West instead of the Soviets, the Stasi actually already had deals with the West anyway. But she wanted to have a real power to try to change things ( And keep an iron grip over the DDR, which the West would probably not give her anyway ), and Iris would never have let her do that. So her last hope was to successfully crush the rebels and remain on the Soviet side.
She wanted to change things ( Especially the Stasi to start with ) for the better.
Nobody complained when it was Idontrememberhisname who was in charge of the Stasi, because he had an iron grip over the DDR without being evil.
That's not stated openly in the LN, but I'm pretty sure she wanted to outpower everyone after Schmidt got in charge in started to do shit. With Schmidt down, Axmann remained a threat, and she could not just kill him ( He is way smarter than Schmidt and have a great support in the Stasi ), so the basic plan was to just become the head of the Stasi herself so she could get back to the old Stasi which wasn't that bad.
Everyone hates Colonel Ketchup though. Even the other Berlin sect stasi dislike him. Schmidt the only one who likes him, and that's because their probably buttbuddies
and he probably covered for him when he was killing the old boss.Also, plenty of people had problems with the way things were ran before. How would you explain Alfred Strawitz's faction then (of course, I'm not really sure when Erich Schmidt wrested power, so he could've been responsible for the Night of Moonlight which turned a bunch of lukewarm patriots into government hating rebels)?
Just a call would have been enough. Communications are not entirely cut you know, and most of the Stasi are always loyal to the Soviets, so if Axmann just opposed their decision he would have lost a hell lot of support.
Nah, I think it was just a fictional random name. He is mentionned like once when Schmidt is introduced.
Axmann have a lot of support actually. Officers loyal to Schmidt mainly sided with him at his death ( Even if they dislike it, he is viewed as the only one to be able to lead the Stasi as Schmidt did ), and he have loyal soldiers basically everywhere in the Stasi.
Can't tell you for the Night of Moonlight, I don't remember if it is stated. But I do know that a lot of patriots just got on the rebel side ( And basically started the rebellion ) after seeing that Schmidt was horrible in his methods.
( Rebellion was up not so long after Schmidt became the new boss I think, like not even a year iirc )
Unless BiS changes things, the prior guy is nameless. The only thing SM says about the prior Secretary of the Stasi is that he died under mysterious circumstances and was better than the current guy (which is said via Beatrix, so it might exactly be a fair analysis
even if he tries to very underhandedly kill her)
Most of the stasi are loyal to their direct superior or department (not the Soviets, who most of them seem to hate). Whatever their leaders tell them to do, they'll do. If Beatrix, for instances, decided to throw in with the rebels, she'd take the whole stasi TSF arm with her. It's a huge nightmare for Schmidt because his inner circle doesn't really like him and if he makes an overt move to have them purged, their underlings will unanimously jump ship
which is why he keeps on trying to indirectly kill people, either through poison or suicidal orders.
The Moonlight Night refers to the huge purge that happened in 1978 that killed Alfred and Jurgen. Iris mentioned that Beato had been a freshly recruited stasi LT at the time and had joined in on the executing (won't know how things went down until BiS wraps up)
Is this anything like Deutschland 83? I liked the way that show crafted an atmosphere of paranoia.
Beatrix and Axmann are two exceptions in terms of charismatic leaders who can get their subordinates to do basically anything, even counter higher orders. The main part of the Stasi ( Which fall under the Moscow Sect ) is actually always loyal to the Soviets, even if they can't do anything to help them at the time ( Actually it would be more precise to say that they are loyal to the Soviets because they don't want to be loyal to the West, and creating a new republic is totally out of the frame )
Yeah I know, I meant that I can't tell you if Schmidt had something to do with this or not as I don't remember it well enough.
He was not the head of the Stasi at the time though, as Beatrix enlisted under the old boss.
>and creating a new republic is totally out of the frame
Why would they need to create a new republic? The DDR may have been under the Russians' thumb but they weren't strictly speaking actually under Russian authority the way, say, the actual constituent republics of the USSR were. They're their own country. If Moscow can't protect them from the West or send tanks in to crush their government if they get uppity, then why should they continue to take orders from the Russians?
is the d-style even available in one of the big 3 stores?
non scale is pretty good but I think it got discontinued after HLJ put on sale its last batch and I've only seen it appear in mandarake
He has a strange relation to his soldiers actually. He is respected like a charismatic leader would be but feared in the same time, and while this could lead his men to just turn over him at the first occasion, they are all loyal to him to death for some reason.
And I'm not only talking about the people he mentally broke to make them loyal by force.
Only started it and hadn't read a lot for now. I usually wait for the novels to get a proper book release before buying them, so I must rely on the few scans for now and some discussions over 2ch.
They need the support of the West anyway. Just declaring independance and creating a new government external to either side would have probably pissed both Soviets and West off, and it's not really the good time to do that ( Western Europe coalition is dumb as fuck in ML, most of European countries don't understand that if Germany falls, they fall. So they would probably just cut ties, which would basically sign the end of the defense line as EU is financing a part of the logistical costs that the DDR could most probably not afford alone, and EU won't create a new defense line in BRD because they are dumb and won't unite their armies to defend it ).
You know they're working on a BiS translation over on the wiki, right?
Also, the first volume of BiS is already out and the second one is being released at the end of this month.
I'm assuming it's from the magazine, because the preamble where Jurg's last words are being played by some mystery person
probably Beatrixon a cassette player are absent:
Yeah I know, I just have no time to read it. I was talking about when BiS started some months ago, I haven't gotten any further since then, except from the general infos I got here and on 2ch.
Basically. But I suspect real life Europe would unite against an alien race trying to kill them all.
Things like racism, nationalism, and etc doesn't really matter when the entire human race at stake. Even the rich will do everything to support the war because all of their shit is worthless if the BETA invade.
Then again, if your starving, rationed food, and under martial law, you'll blame those dirty wealthfare leeches instead of aliens that are invading the earth killing billions
Pretty naive of you to claim desu. Humans are pretty fucking retarded in real life as well if you haven't noticed we'd rather kill our selves off for a higher profit or personal gain. An alien invasion won't stop that ML's "eval" murica shows you that.
If any fellow Beatrixfag is interested, I just tried a little something to update the Angry Beatrix gif.
Not the best, but I think it will always work more than the original.
Now I'm prepared to shout at âge if they make Beatrix a full evil bitch in the anime.
Well, I only see Beatrix images which need some shooping when I'm in the mood ( And have time ) to do it.
Clearly not an Irisfag, but I have to say that every art I saw of her had no real default. Nothing which really needed a fix at least.
You know, she's going to get the same treatment that the KnG cast got (just look at how the dominant opinion on Mitsuki is that she's an absolute slut).
Also, I think Beato's mouth animations would look slightly more natural reversed.
You see how often these threads devolve into shitstorms already. No, none of us are ready for Saturday/Sunday.
Iris, being by far the most popular until recently, has a ton of art compared to the other girls, but a lot of it tends to be pretty bad. Beatrix, in comparison, tends to have fewer pics, but most of them are of a higher quality than the average Iris pic. The bad art usually doesn't get posted here, so Beatrix and Iris end up looking like they have roughly equal art presentation.
BiS really threw gasoline on the whole Beato-Iris War. Beatrix was pretty much despised before the prequel serialized and made her best girl. Now things are stupidly complex.
I think I will watch this instead of being uninterested in anything airing like I am most years. mud butt's an ok setting and I forgot most details
Is this MMD? Or something else?
I can't wait for Sunday. It'll be here soon.
POST BIG OR GO HOME
C'mon, the hair might be just slightly off, but it's obvious who that is. It's Utsuho Reiuji!
I guess I'd better start figuring out how that works.
Is it easy to make lewd shit?
It's possible, but it's pretty difficult. 3D girl would be easier but look way worse. You get what you put into it, I guess.
The misinformation the plebs off 4chan have walking into this anime is hilarious.
>Irisdina is a hero who had saved East Germany many times, a intelligent and charismatic leader, determined and willing to sacrifice anything,even her own life, for the survival of the common people.
>And Beatrix works for the evil guys, and she's cruel to everybody.
When will we get to see Leymei's take on SM. I'm betting he can do a killer Beatrix and Irisdina.
Dunno. SM doesn't really talk about it much. The most you get is, sure Iris sold out her bro and that's terrible, but look how she's learned her lesson and all the stuff she's done to make up for it or look at how she's such a better person than she was when she was younger from side characters. The whole Jurgen sell out thing is pretty much brushed under the rug.
Iris completely skirts the topic whenever it's brought up.
Beato doesn't really talk about it either, though she does make mention to "Irisdina's great sin" and how she's a traitor through and through (which with BiS, we can probably say she isn't necessarily talking about Iris's relationship to the state).
We going to have our live stream chats again?
Her'es the raw, uncleaned version (
just to piss off that one autist)
Why are did they put sticker over Iris's and Beato's vaginas?
Fuck that, Latrova doujin when?
>dressing Katja up in something Japanese
why not something German instead?
Of all the times I've seen the title screen of Alternative, this is the very first time I've noticed the Forts in the distance.
So i was watching Doujin Work when i noticed something...
It's very fragile, mine fell and hit the carpet and broke. Amazon usually sells them for cheap though and they're good to build to practice on before moving onto the more expensive non-scales
>None of the characters appear in other works either.
I can assure to that it is not photoshop. Episode, either 2 or 3, when they rummage around in some store in Akihabara, posters for both kgne and muv luv, alternative, extra and AF. I can post more pictures later
>19 years old
It's 1:05am on the 10th now, is it not airing yet, or have I confused 1:05am with 25:05 again? any futaba thread?
Goddamn Japanese can't keep their times straight.
You don't know about quality. I was born in it, molded by it.
Sunday 10:35 AM Pacific Time for the censored version.
I wonder if I should avoid those threads as I want to watch the uncensored version on the 15, considering I already know the story so the only thing I could be spoiled on would be the direction...
>after several month Hiatus my friend will continue reading Alternative
SADOGASHIMA SOON FELLOW EISHIS!
will report back soon
I prefer the insides of them, to be honest.
wings are placed too high and are too thin.
It's disgusting russian "well, why design a new plane when we can just bastardize a current model into some other horribly disfigured jet?"
now the B-1, THAT is something I'd like to get begind
Mount the image from this link, and run the kimiita exe program.
You literally just click download, or if you don't trust, me hit view, then right-click and download. I don't understand what your hangup is? I just re-downloaded it myself and it's the same resolution.
I know its going to be bad and i know most of the plot points but why do i still feel hyped for the anime?
because once you're into it, you'll never get out from the age's ride, ever.
He has what you want. You can't drop him, it's an addiction now. He's got us all dancing to his tune like rats at the mercy of the Pied Piper.
There is nothing wrong with enjoying you job, no matter how shitty it is. You can complain about what she does but her feelings on that matter doesn't make her a bad person.
You already have the villain and that's Iris.
Chaotic good you mean?
And yeah i'm seeing her as Yuuko myself especially after the prequel.
Yuuko was never no saint either if anything though she's probably a mix between Esdese and Yuuko and Esdese just doesn't know better and she's not that bad of a person in reality.
>Holy shit, no.
She is irremediably evil. The only thing Beatrix could possibly do to even get close to being as bad as Iris is if she would somehow have a child and then murder it for no reason, than just maybe she would sink to Iris level.
Why do Beatrixfags here feel the need to intentionally mislead the fandom on the nature of their waifu?
>not hitting fucking grapplers with you 120mm cannon
are you fucking kidding me?
I just watched the first episode
They rearranged a scene or two and even changed the tone of the 目的がある, which was supposed to be slip not how Katia said it upfront in this epi.
Katia's rescue was altered as well.
They skipped the convo Iris and Theo had on the way back to base, coercing Theo into supporting her decision to bring her into the squad.
And some other minor changes.
Hopefully next episode they show all of Katia's cute base tour.
This all based on the VN as I haven't read the LN.
I should get to it.
A serious Katia is cute as well.
Who knows, I don't know where the after credits scene came from, maybe from a later novel.
Because they kind of revealed Liz and her real job during that scene.
I think they're going to go for 1 cour and just cover the 1st VN and as a consequence they have to cram a lot in the episodes
What would've made the scene perfect is if she'd lick the blood on her face after shooting all those civvies.
Nah, she's like really close to Axmann in her sadism and vileness. If Axmann was a 10 on the scale, she'd be a 9.6
I'm not disputing their characterization in scene, but rather that they spoiled something that was reveled at the end of the VN(maybe it was different in the LN) in the first episode
It's not like it hasn't been spoiled for years by age.
Good lord this is going to be a long week, I fucking loved everything about episode 1.
Just wondering has the SM story ended or we waiting for part 2 cause I assumed every but MC dies cause Master and that jazz. Cause last I heard all main girls dies in the VN, but main male villain is still alive and shit
Bernhard im Schatten. Basically the Beatoroute everyone wants.
Katia looks nothing like her
>dat BUENO face
Who is he talking to here, Lise?
I feel betrayed by all you people hyping her up as a complex character when she really is nothing more than Esshit 2.0. I fucking wanted the Irisfags to be wrong about this one, but I have to take their side on this. She is an utterly repulsive bitch wrapped in a hot exterior.
Oh, for fuck sake. So that wasn't just the PV direction making her look like someone else.
Fuck it, why did you do nothing to stop them Cookie ? You had the power to do so.
I will see how bad they did that myself on the 15th I guess.
Don't rely on the anime and read the LN if you feel betrayed.
Yeah, they do. She even jokes about it afterwards with Axmann OF ALL PEOPLE after it.
GOD IM FUCKKING PISSED
That's her style of joking. Does it look like she's not enjoying it in all the caps.
Beato and Axmann don't like each other. She banters with him, but it's always tinged with tension and never really friendly.
Why do you keep telling me those sweet little lies? You've broken my heart already anon.
I couldn't care less about what you, or anybody, think of Beatrix.
I say, if I trust the anons who watched the episode ( I haven't seen it myself for now ), and I do, it's not the Beatrix who is depicted in the LN.
Now if you want to read the LN to prove what I'm saying or stay with the anime, that's your problem.
If I could use again the Angry Beatrix gif in this thread, I would have used it on this very post.
Why, Cookie. Why.
Well, give us your analyses when you finish torrenting the anime. And yeah, they pretty much showed Beato as being fucking ecstatic about the execution. It was almost like she was a rabid dog on Axemann's leash waiting for him to give the signal.
>I couldn't care less about what you, or anybody, think of Beatrix.
Well that's definitely a good attitude to take. You could at least try to refute their points using your knowledge and citations.
I already did many times in those threads, and I'm not the type to say the same things again and again, nor will I search for them on the archive to copy/paste.
I will definitely get you guys quotes when I can though ( ie. when I'm back at home, but I don't know when that will be as my work contract has been extended undefinitely for now )
Yeah, the anime's not doing a very good job as portraying her as anything but a sadistic state thug. Even Colonel Ketchup is represented better than Beatrix.
She doesn't enjoy killing as she seems to be depicted in the anime.
She doesn't mind killing people, even civilians, if she have to. But she never was described enjoying it.
Moreover, she never executed someone outside of her TSF ( So when she was not on a mission ).
> dat Lise
i would like to cuddle best imouto all day long, with all of my heart content.
if only Stasi was not exist ;_;
i do have this best stuff for Beatrix, not sure the best thing for Axmann yet.
>>In an alternate universe where the fallout of World War II led to a global split that left East Germany and West Germany in charge of the entire left and right hemispheres of the earth, the real war is only just beginning!
>>In 1967, the space race resulted in contact with the hostile BETA aliens hiding out on the moon, and their assault on a world too freshly divided turned the earth into a frozen hell!
>>Now specialized squadrons from East Germany, otherwise known as the German Democratic Republic, are dispatched to try and clean up the battlefields with mech-driven heavy artillery, the Robotic Assault Drones, RAD!
>>The 666th squadron, known as the BLACK REAPERS, are the strongest in the corp, but their integrity may be under threat of compromise thanks to infiltration by the evil Stazis, who want to turn the war into a vehicle for East Germany's supremacy.
>>Captain Theodore Ableback, fearful of such an outcome, begrudgingly enlists the help of West German transplant Catia Wallham to turn the tide of this global disaster and save the Earth from the alien threat!