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I started watching the original Macross after seeing and liking the special preview for Delta and I can't believe you shitposters had the guts to claim "SDF Macross was serious unlike Delta". This shit is wacky and goofy as all hell.

I'm liking it, though. Fun stuff.
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>to claim "SDF Macross was serious
What retard told you so, SDF is a comedy mostly.
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>>13712489
It's all over the Delta threads, pretty much.
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>im gonna watch the original to spite the ones who hate the newest one

why is this a thing, /m/?
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>>13712502
You just hear whatever you wanna hear, huh?
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>>13712502
That's a whole load of wrong assumptions you're making right there, I wanted to watch all of Macross before Delta airs so I could understand any references and connections.
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What are you talking about, Macross was totally a serious war drama all the time with absolutely no silly moments whatsoever.
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>>13712483
>s had the guts to claim "SDF Macross was serious unlike Delta"
I think they're usually talking about Plus

Macross is fucking ridiculous with serious moments
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>>13712483
MUH SDFs are just closet robotech fans who never watched the original
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>>13712502
How in the living fuck did you get that out of OP post?
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>>13712520
>delta will never have giant tuna in space
dropped
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SDF took huge risks and push the mecha genre to unknown territory. Delta is just doing what everyone else does these days. Macross used to be a leader, now it's just a follower
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>>13712511
>>13712529
you know it's true
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>>13712483
>to claim "SDF Macross was serious unlike Delta"
That's cause taking it that far is shitposting

Did it handle the idol stuff differently despite also being silly? yes. Did it have a different tone? yes. Could this possibly cause a series which tries many different things to not like all incarnations including the most recent? yes

This is like saying people should like IBO cause 0079 had bad animation as well
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>>13712530
Delta confirmed for too serious. Dropped.
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>>13712494
Lots of people here are autistic, they don't understand if something is a comedy. They think it must be a serious war drama because lots of people die in it, so it can't have comedy moments.
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>>13712539
>This is like saying people should like IBO cause 0079 had bad animation as well
No, that's actually a piss poor analogy because we're talking about plot, not animation.
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>>13712534
I notice you didn't quote the one person who actually is OP
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>>13712546
Fine. Both have child soldiers so you should like both. Both have robots so you should like both. Both have child abuse so you should like both

The point still stands
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>>13712540
I bet it won't even have a Zendrati leader ride a destroid like a horse. Kawamori is a fucking hack
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>>13712483
SDF Macross is a different kind of silly. A kind that I find endearing as opposed to whatever the hell Delta is supposed to be.

I prefer the adventures of Zentraedi reacting to PROTOCULTURE and Global's crew having no idea what the fuck they're doing over magical girl idols, is what I'm saying.
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>>13712533
>Delta is just doing what everyone else does these days.
How many mecha shows are there where singing is a main element?
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>>13712566
AKB048 another Kawamori original
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>>13712566
Key the Metal Idol?
symphogear
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>>13712566
Cross Ange. Ange's mecha is powered up by music and she tends to sing a lot.

Depending on your definition of mecha, there's Symphogear as well.

I'd like to say that Delta wants the symphobucks since that show prints money, but Kawamori is more than crazy enough to come up with this with no assistance.
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>>13712570
something that obviously isn't from Kawa and AKB was a test run for Delta, the 1st ep was nearly identical to AKB
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You can't point at SDF and Delta and go "they both have idols and are pretty goofy, what's the difference" like you've just won an argument, they're wildly different things.
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>>13712575
memegear was obviously inspired by memecross and it's not mecha
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>>13712576
>I'd like to say that Delta wants the symphobucks since that show prints money
Its the event tickets that print money, the show itself is a vehicle to promote the artist on board i.e. Nana Mizuki outside that nobody gives a shit. Delta will more than likely do the exact same thing.
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btw Frontier is much more serious in tone than SDF
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>>13712583
You're completely correct anon. *pats you on the head* Good job!
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>>13712939
It had its moments though.
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SDF was silly but people tend to exaggerate how much it was as much as people try to hide it

Like I've seen people say the fish bit was a crazy mad moment, but really it is just they see a fish out a window when the fold took a load of ocean stuff with it. Not like there was any robots with fishing rods. It's a simple goofy moment it a pretty normal episode about them waiting to be rescued, most of which is them walking around or eating. Same with the singing. It is quite a number of episodes in before it starts being a real element (it is the fish episode before Minmay even sings), and then later before it starts having a magical effect. There is a very nice build to it making the whole thing feel like a very natural progression that works nicely to acclimatise the viewer. Still silly but a lot of people talking about Delta seem to ignore how it was handled
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>>13713019
Deltafags just want to pretend they watch delta for the plot and not only for jerking off
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>>13713025
I watch Delta for weaponized idol sillyness and the fact that it makes autists angry.
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>>13713025
Yes, I jerk off to idols who aren't doing anything remotely lewd.

You're retarded.
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>>13713019
But you can't compare SDF and Delta in that regard because in SDF the show built up to singing being a thing and now, some 50 years and 4 series later where singing progressively began to be more "things", Delta is taking a different route by having singing be a thing from the start because it's been proven to be effective a million times already
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>>13713143
>But you can't compare SDF and Delta
Which is why people should stop, so I made a post about how people said both are silly so are the same is wrong.

Both shows at best have a sort of similar base ideas (and even then there are some big differences) but from there they diverge greatly and should be able to stand on their own merits. But a lot of people seem obsessed with saying well it is like old shows or it isn't like old shows so it is good/bad.
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>>13713143
7 and 2 already weaponized singing
and Delta made M2 canon
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>>13712521
>I think they're usually talking about Plus
They're actually talking about DYRL, which is debatably even more iconic than SDF. Even Hidetaka Tenjin seems to prefer it, if his art is any indication.

>>13712566
Quite a few, but it's more of a case of Delta's weird use of genre conventions not terribly Macross-esque, like straight-up Sentai poses and (not)Magical Girl shenanigans. The singing was never an issue, but the songs in the preview ep were kind of generic and underwhelming by Macross standards.

On that note, SDF had a unique, quirky charm to it that hasn't really been replicated to any degree outside of maybe 7 (and 7 had it's own flavor of issues.) Delta's charm is mostly stuff other shows do better, just thrown into the Macross mix for maximum market-friendliness.

>>13712522
Get out.
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>>13713220
All shows have weaker songs. There's still GIRI GIRI AI.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WKB1KSMfRo
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>>13713235
>All shows have weaker songs.
What did he mean by this?

>>13713235
>There's still GIRI GIRI AI.
It's still shit.
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>>13713220
>but the songs in the preview ep were kind of generic and underwhelming by Macross standards.
This. They could be the OP or ED of any boring ass thing that come out a season. I'm not saying they are bad but not at the higher level a song about music should have. Pop isn't generally my thing but Frontier had some songs that did stick with me and SDF has some really classic tunes that have stuck with the franchise for a reason so it isn't just the genre
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Kim was best of the trio
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>>13712522
I am not American, I don't watch dubs EVER.

So no I haven't watched Robotech and yes I have watched SDF Macross.
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>>13713240
>It's still shit.
>it's different so it's shit
So you don't like 7?
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>>13713242
There were two songs in Delta so far. Literally two songs and one was only played in the ending credits.
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>>13713256
Different and bad do not mean the same thing in all instances. Stop strawmanning

7's music took actual singing and instrument talent. Idol group is usually formed by talent scouts that deliberately find inexperienced girls with varying singing ability. It's why the idol group feels so soulless on stage compared to a real music concert. The music is manufactured through training girls to sing and dance in sync and look cute rather than passion for song. It's why I could never get in to idol group anime; everything feels very soulless and manufactured. I hate people that like idol groups for this reason, because they brought this trash to the forefront. They are no better than americans that like Justin Bieber or One Direction or whatever's the popular western idol/idols right now. They are the same thing.
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>>13713291
And they were two songs I didn't care for and the only impression I'll get for a while. Open with something stronger if you are going to do that.
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>>13713240
GIRI GIRI AI is godtier. It sounds like it'll be even better with Freyja singing it, too.
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>idol singers facing down heavily armed giant mecha head-on

I've never watched a Macross before, but as much as people say Tomino is fucking crazy, this is on a completely different level.

And I fucking love it.
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>>13713338
>but as much as people say Tomino is fucking crazy, this is on a completely different level.
Macross7 had the big bad singing along with the MC and friends at the end.
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>>13712483
Are you the same faggot who couldn't let it go in the "Delta is garbage" thread, even though he got told left and right?

You didn't get it then, and you don't get it now: it's not the over the top, or silly elements that are the problem(that shit comes with anime by default), it's how they're used.

Even if you're not the same faggot, the picture you're using proves how desperate you are. And also proves the difference between those two shows really well. Look at the scene in SDF and then look how the shit is used in Delta. There, not so hard is it?

>inb4 7 did the same
Yes, we've been there. 7 is also shit.
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Nobody said that SDF Macross was serious, what people have been saying is that the subsequent shows have entirely lost the heart and spirit of the original show to instead be about selling records. And take that with a grain of salt, of course the original had merch too, but it was never as all-consuming as it was with 7 and Frontier.
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>>13713304
Isn't SDF just the soulless manufactured idol music you're talking about, though? Minmay wins a contest to find the cutest girl on board the Macross and as a result she gets people writing songs for her to sing while looking cute for propaganda etc
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>>13713363
>it's not the over the top, or silly elements that are the problem
>it's how they're used.
>7 is also shit
>>13713396
>it's not SDF so it's bad
Delta is just a different and less serious Frontier, I know you shit taste faggots hate F too.
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>>13713304
>They are no better than americans that like Justin Bieber or One Direction or whatever's the popular western idol/idols right now. They are the same thing.

...lets not say things we can't take back.
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>>13713408
Not that anon but I see idolshit even lower than Justin Bieber, one direction and similar crap. At least westerners singers don't need to sell multiple copies to no-life freaks
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>>13713404
It is, but at least the show doesn't pretend any different about it, especially in the post-war episodes where we see Minmay getting disenfranchised with being an idol constantly on a roadshow.

>>13713407
I didn't say anything remotely resembling that greentext you faggot.
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>>13713408
I dunno. Bieber managed to branch out, wreak some havoc, speak his own mind. Also afaik he started out by himself on Myspace singing his own songs, which is infinitely more than the idol girls who get cast by how supple their thighs are.
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>>13712533
What risks? What unknown territory?

Its space battleship yamato with more toy sales and the power of song, you fucking nonce
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>>13713396
Not him, but Mari Iijima can fucking -sing-. Same with May'n and Megumi Nakajima, if we want to go the pop idol route.

Can't say the same for the new gals. Then again, that's a flaw inherent with idol groups; you're not listening to a single singer belt it out for most of the song, the majority of it is syncronized, so when an individual doesn't sound that notable, you don't notice it as much because their part of the song doesn't last long.
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>>13712539
It had a different tone because it was made 150 years ago. You cant recreate the tone of SDF in today's world, even if you tried. The closest you could get is Unicorn. Because a lot of the perceived tone of SDF also has ties to the technology used to create and animate the show.

You might as well just say you hate Delta because it's new.
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>>13713431
The purple girl seems like she can sing, given that her voice seems to carry all the songs we've heard from the Walk├╝res so far.

Mari Ijima in SDF sounds kind of a lot like the girls you'd hear on the Onyanko Club around that time, complete with the lavish orchestral backing. She's since shown to be a much more talented musician than that, but I dunno if she was anything special in the early 80's.
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This is TFA all over again.

>See? The original was overrated shit without any real merit so you shouldn't have standards
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>>13713201
>Delta made M2 canon
In what way? It doesn't have anything to do with it.
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>>13713442
>I'm too autistic to have fun
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>>13713452
>It doesn't have anything to do with it.
villain mind controls others through singing
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>>13713461
That was already done in Plus.
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>>13713453
>turn-off your brain
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>>13713470
plus came after 2 and Sharon used some mind control waves not singing and it was more like hypnosis
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>>13713489
I know that Plus came later. It was made pretty much in response to II. Point is , Delta isn't doing anything that hasn't been done already in canon. And no, II will never be canon. Even though it's like the third best in the series.
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>>13713078
Did you even watch the episode?
There's a full naked henshin you stupid fuck
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>>13712939
That doesn't make it less shit.
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Wait, the preview already came out? What the fuck am I doing, and where can I get it?
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>>13714275
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=770987
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>>13714293
slam bam thank you ma'am
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1nP2vYO24k
>people actually think this garbage singing and animation is better than Delta's songs
my sides
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>>13712502

How would that even work?

>Just watch, I'll enjoy this show while everyone else is hating on the new one. That'll show those faggots.
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Ikenai Borderline is great.
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>>13714625
Fuck yeah it is.
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>>13714625
This

>>13714666
Satan confirms
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>>13712543
Also Robotards.
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>If you like this thing you must like the other thing
>If you dislike this thing you can't like that thing
>Its all the same thing apparently.

Ok then.
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>there's something wrong with idols being badass
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>>13714696
>all opinions count, even if they're completely fabricated for the purpose of lazy internet trolling
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>>13714715
>Assumptions the post.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhbxDPJsqR8
And then there's this faggot.
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>>13714787
I really don't see the merit in reviewing cartoons
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>>13714787
>openly admits only watched SDF and DYRL
all the shitposters summed up
Why do these faggots jump onto Delta instead of watching at least Frontier?
>HURR DURR I love Muhcross
>but I couldn't be bothered to watch the other shows
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>>13714801
Cartoons for manchildren no less.
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>>13714808
He's kind of a stuck up shit in general. He dropped Panty and Stocking after 5 episodes because it was "boring" and you should (not) see his DYRL review. He gave it a 3/10.
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>>13714822
I can kinda see the P&S rhing if you're used to so wacky comedy
But DYRL a fucking 3/10?
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>>13714822
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZeiV_r-2sY
holly shit, how can one guy be so full of shit
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>>13714841
>>13714787
>youtube anime ""reviewers""
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>>13714787
>>13714808
>>13714822
>>13714836
>He liked Gundam Thunderbolt
Macross faggots BTFO
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>>13714871
>he liked a garbage edgy OYW spinoff
BTFO indeed.
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>Only defense Deltafags have is that "it's fun".

Is Delta the TRY of the franchise?
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>>13714871
>he liked the jazz in Thunderbolt
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>>13714808
>all the shitposters summed up
>Why do these faggots jump onto Delta instead of watching at least Frontier?
I watch everything and I still think the preview ep was lame. What now, you generalizing faggot?
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>>13714888
Most anime fans defend modern anime by using the fun argument. See every haremshit/moeshit thread on /a/
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>>13714903
Oh, and btw I loved Frontier.
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>>13714909
>I loved Frontier.
Way to invalidate your opinion in one sentence.
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>>13714888
Most mecha is garbage anyway just for having mechs. You enjoy it because it's fun. Stop trying to act like you enjoy a higher form of art you pretentious cunt.
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>>13714903
>forward swept canards
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>>13714915
/a/ pls
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Is delta the macross frontier of macross?
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>>13714915
This desu i wouldn't have watched a majority of gundam if it didn't have robots or the braves if they were card games or not pokemons
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>>13714888
Mikumo is a badass, Freya is energetic, Hayate is a lazy cunt, Mirage is a JENIUS, the music is pretty decent, the dogfight choregraphy is great, seeing the zentradi again is cool, the series taking place across the galaxy sounds fun as fuck, and the idols acting like warriors is refreshing. The only complaints I have about it is the CGI does look -pretty rough right now but that'll probably be improved when the complete episode airs and there was a bit too much going on in the first episode. It felt a little bit hectic. Other than that I did have a good time watching it. I've already seen it three times.
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>>13714914
Care to explain why, instead of merely throwing thatnout there?

>stellar idol singers
>Good artstyle with great character designs
>gorgeous VFs with lots of option packs that all look great
>Great cast
>amazing OST by Yoko Kanno.

Compared to
>Idol group trash.
Extremely generic moeblob artstyle and character designs.
>"meh" VFs (admittedly subject to change)
>mediocre OST compared to Frontier (though that's a given, seeing as Idol groups never put out anything particularly substantial)

I mean, Frontier wasn't perfect, but I was hooked from the first episode and I sure as hell don't regret watching it. Delta's preview episode, however, has been the worst opening I've seen yet. I don't think whatever Kawamori's got in store for the remaining chunk of the ep is going to blow me away
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>>13714942
Adding to that I guess the transformations did catch me off guard when I first saw it. Not because of the transformations themselves which isn't new for Macross but the way Walkure just suddenly appeared like that with no warning.
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>>13714942
>Mirage is a JENIUS

And a disgrace to her name. Probably the black sheep of the family.
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>>13714942
>the music is pretty decent

No
Shit can't even stand up to Frontier and I only like the fucking Frontier moves.
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>>13714960
When will she git gud?
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>>13714966
that's just like, you're opinion man
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>>13714921
You mean the newest macross therefore making it shit even though zero is terrible and 2 is practically non existant?
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>>13714972
Never if they want to make her interesting at all.
Give her a complex about the whole thing and the expectations put on her do to her name.
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>>13714978
We can say the same about you're opinion man.
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>>13714986
I'm not a big fan of the Draken VF.
2fat
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Frontier is only good for shipping faggotry and waifu faggotry
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>>13714998
LOW TEST
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>>13715077
I can't stop thinking of Hydrothunder when I look at it.
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>>13715085
I think of Hydrox
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>>13714956
>Good artstyle with great character designs
>gorgeous VFs with lots of option packs that all look great
>Great cast

The only thing you got right was the OST
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>>13714942
>the dogfight choregraphy is great, seeing the zentradi again is cool, the series taking place across the galaxy sounds fun as fuck, and the idols acting like warriors is refreshing.
There's also the possibility that Deltafags are delusional as well.
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>>13715131
There's also a strong possibility you're an autistic sperg.
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>>13715119
>not liking the VF-25
>Not liking Sheryl
>Not liking hotblooded Alto-hime
>not liking BASED FUCKING MICHAEL
>not liking Best Giantess

https://youtu.be/g6QVEo-pmYM
^Also if you didn't think this was the hypest shit then just get the fuck out of the Macross fandom right now, sit down, and think about how much of a cunt you are.
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Poor VF-171. Even in a new series you're cannon fodder.
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>>13715162
>not liking the VF-25
Kawamori has made a good VF design since Plus
>Not liking Sheryl
Its not hard to not like her
>Not liking hotblooded Alto-hime
The most unremarkable lead in the franchise next to Shin and the photographer.
>not liking BASED FUCKING MICHAEL
Who? No seriously the cast in Frontier were so bland and unremarkable that you can easily replace them with any run of the mill school anime.
>not liking Best Giantess
I'm not a waifufag

>Wow...its fucking nothing
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>>13715229
>has
*hasn't
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>>13715229
>I hate everything
No wonder you can't enjoy anything. And SDF's cast is unremarkable and bland and I assume you like that.
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>>13715240
>And SDF's cast is unremarkable and bland
Here's your reply
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>>13714888
What is there to defend? Delta was great. Freyja was the best character I've seen the entire year.
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>>13715242
It's the fucking truth. Hikaru doesn't have any hint of personality outside of trying to decide between fucking Minmay or Misa. Minmay is a selfish bitch, Misa is a boring old lady, Global doesn't do anything but smoke, Shammy is only remembered for being cute which is more than you can say for the other bridge bunnies. Kakizaki is useless comic relief that does fuck all, Max is only remembered for being a badass. The only interesting characters are the zentradi. Everyone else is bland as they come.
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>>13715260
>Delta was great. Freyja was the best character I've seen the entire year.
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>>13715305
>reaction image
top keks you sure showed him
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>>13715260
>Freyja was the best character I've seen the entire year.


Sad times we live in.
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>>13715327
He's making a joke because the year just started, he's likely seen few other characters for comparison at this point.
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>>13714978
She was my dream girl until I saw she had space AIDS. Now I simply can't stand her. Don't stick your dick into space AIDS.
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>>13715319
not him but freyja was pretty shit. nothing about her really stood out other than clumsy quirky animu genki girl that's "always smiling!" :D
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>>13715200
At least the VF-11 is off the hook now.
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It's serious like Star Wars, that is to say melodramatic.
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>>13715200
it was kind of always built to be cannon fodder.

Though to it's credit, Alto managed to stand up to Ozma in the VF-171EX while he was piloting the VF-25S in the Armored configuration and actually meet him almost blow for blow. If that's not a testament to the VF-171 then I don't know what is.
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>>13714808
>>openly admits only watched SDF
Nah, he was beating around the bush too much, what he really said was "I watched Robotech when I was like 5"
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>>13714888
I think it is a leftover from the earlier days of anime in the west.

You see anime used to be really hard to get so people consumed whatever they could get and made the most of it. This mentality never completely left so any lowest common denominator thing still gets stached up.
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>>13715819
By that logic SDF Macross is trash since it aired in the west.
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>>13715162
>>Not liking Sheryl
>liking negative ass
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>>13715162
>>Not liking Sheryl
I really don't understand the hardon /m/ has for her.

Klan Klan I can understand. But Sheryl wasn't interesting and was actually pretty annoying at times, just like Ranka.
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>>13715633
>jenius bitch corners big bad
>IT WAS BASARA ALL AloNG
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>>13715871
Waifufags who don't know the real best girl the sky
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Freya is a cute. I want to feed her apples and pet her lu-lun.
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>>13713427
When you say it like that, I actually could like him
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ITT: People who take cartoons too seriously.
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>>13715963
And this is new because?
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>weaponized idols
You knew this was inevitable.
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>>13715973

Well given that Macross 7 already had the Jamming Birds, it's was not only inevitable, it was normal.
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>>13715554
For me, Freyja's achiever attitude, her blunt and sarcastic view of MC's lifestyle, and her passionate desire to sing really sold her to me.
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>>13713025
Yes, I jerk it to the VF-31 and the SV-262. What's the big deal?
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>>13715975
You mean those losers who were totally ineffective?
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>>13716699

Their effectiveness doesn't matter, they still existed regardless.
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>>13713242
Good thing Ikenai Borderline isn't pop then, not that you mongoloids can even tell the difference. Everything is j-pop to you idiots.
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Minmay and Ranka were more realistic/immature, that's why they got more mature over time, Freyja feels much different since he already wants to be a singer and doesn't seem a bitchy.
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>>13716704
They existed, but they were a bad idea that didn't work.
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>>13713431
>>13713439
Freyja can sing too, or at the very least she has a nice voice despite being a newbie . I got shivers when she started singing at the end. It's easy to see why she won the contest.
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>>13716699
they didn't have magic girls technology at that time
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>>13716714
She's literally basara 2.0
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>>13716775
She's not super autistic like Basara is, she's pretty much just Ranka 1.5.
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Freyja just seems like
>Ranka again
just like Hayate feels like
>Alto again
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>>13716714

Neither Minmay nor Ranka were bitchy in the first episodes and Ranka wanted to sing from the beginning. She didn't get a chance till a few episodes later, but she always wanted to. Freyja hasn't had much chance to show personality yet, so will probably have the same immaturity in the next few episodes.

>>13716716

So what? They were still being weaponized. And so was music and musical groups, with much more success in Fire Bomber. The only reason Jamming Birds existed at all is that the military saw how successful Fire Bomber were and wanted more control over them. The problem with Jamming Birds wasn't that the concept was flawed, but that the execution was. Walkure are a better execution of it, just like Fire Bomber - at least from an in-universe perspective.
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>>13716970
Alto's introductory scene was to show how passionate he was about flying and how cooped up he felt in a colony ship. He doesn't care about Sheryl's show in any other capacity other than his role in the aerial acrobatics part of it, but he doesn't tell other people off for being excited despite it not being his thing.

Hayate's introduction shows that he not only has NO passions, but that he's actively pessimistic and envious towards others' passions. He came across as a real asshole towards Freyja not because he didn't personally care for singing but because he couldn't understand how other people could be passionate about something when he's so apathetic about everything. He's literally an /m/-tier sperglord with a terrible case of sour grapes.

Their only similarities so far are that they don't care for singing and they are relatively serious in their first episode. At least we got to see Alto save Ranka and hop into the pilot seat though. Hayate hasn't done anything other than criticize Mirage's flying.
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>>13717008

Alto didn't even dislike singing, he just didn't care about fame or get excited about Sheryl just because she was famous since he'd experienced the same from a personal level when he was younger. And that disinterest was why Sheryl found him attractive, since everyone else fawned on her.
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>>13717018
That was my point. He didn't care for it but he wasn't insulting the people who did/trying to convert them to his apathetic mindset. Hayate is.
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>>13715942
You have to get a girl's consent before touching her heartpenis.
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>>13714960
>And a disgrace to her name. Probably the black sheep of the family.
The Mirage-hating tripfag is at it again exaggerating her "bad piloting" and blowing it out way out of proportion.

>>13714972
>When will she git gud?
She's already better than most pilots. Take note she was against Aerial Knight who are the best pilots form the Kingdom of Wind and are at least a match to any one of the Delta Squad.
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>>13717508
She's a failure anon you need to let it go. Like she will wen she drops being a pilot and becomes a cute idol.
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>>13717823
Says the retarded hater who can't give any concrete points proving she's a failure. You're just bashing Mirage just for the sake of it and that you extremely dislike her. She's a competent pilot so deal with it tripfag.
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>>13717882
See you wen she's in a frilly dress and on stage and no longer pilots.
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>>13717900
See you then when you get completely assblasted when she both pilots and sings tripfag.
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>>13717911
>she both pilots and sings tripfag.

You need to be a man or be part of a man's band for that.
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>>13717920

She's a Jenius, which transcends gender.
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>>13717920
>You need to be a man or be part of a man's band for that.
Your bullshit and autism never ceases to amaze. On who's criteria are you basing that on tripfag? Yours? Mylene Jenius both pilots and sings pretty damn well and Firebomber isn't strictly man's band. Please go on pull shit out of your ass and make a completely embarrass yourself.
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>>13717956
>>13717964
Basara uncaringly had a singing Jenius under his wing and directly made the other his bitch.

You must embrace Mirage frilly future with the possibility of a silly hat and no VF to pilot.
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>>13718016
That doesn't fucking prove your point asshat. Basara making Mylene his bitch is purely your opinion and has no bearing whatsoever. Mylene is both a good singer and pilot which is enough to call on your bullshit. You just refuse to admit that you ran your pathetic argument to a fucking corner. Best you shut the fuck up minimize your losses tripfag.
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>>13718095
>Mylene his bitch
>He can't even keep track of the Jenius'

He makes Emilia his bitch he lets Mylene tag along.
Both sisters hold up to the Jenius standard so they get to be pilots to. Unlike that Mirage who can't even use ECCMs.
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>>13716988
But Ranka wasn't really willing to live for singing until episode 6 or so, before that she is more shallow. Freyja already seems like she loves music and is pursuing her dream from the beginning.
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>>13718233
>
He makes Emilia his bitch he lets Mylene tag along
Again your fucking opinion. Being enamored by Basara doesn't mean that mad them his bitches. In fact he didn't really care as he was completely oblivious of their feelings.

>Both sisters hold up to the Jenius standard so they get to be pilots to. Unlike that Mirage who can't even use ECCMs.
And what exactly is the Jenius standard dumbass? Please enlighten us. Emilia and Mylene were good pilots but they still didn't come close to the skill of their parents. And even if they don't that doesn't mean they aren't eligible to be pilots.

As for ECM goes you're pretty stupid to think that pilots manually activate it especially at their tech level. ECMs are controlled by the fighter's systems electronically and its probably didn't responding fast enough since the Aerial Knights were fucking UNKNOWNs.
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>>13718261

She wasn't willing to chase it as a dream because she had no self-confidence and no connection to the business. As soon as she got an in-road she was encouraged to take it and did so. Freyja is simply busting in to the middle of a concert because she's so hyped up. She's still immature as shit most likely and it'll almost certainly be explored over the next few episodes before she's accepted and becomes a proper idol.
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>>13718450
True. When you describe it that way it makes sense. She's just so different from Minmay and Ranka, but it sounds like she's similar to Mylene, which makes a rival Jenius much more interesting.
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