gundam thunderbolt episode 1 was really really good
loved everything from the music, the art direction, the writing, and especially the atmosphere
what was the initial reaction from /m/ when it premiered? anyone else looking forward to the next episode?
It has a good style and the music is great playing nicely into the atmosphere and rivalry. Direction was very good and the writing was snappy at points which made up for the characters and story being a bit nothing
Kind of feels like an extended IGLOO for better and worse
>usual zeonwank bitching from vapid retards
Other way around. Bitching is mostly from zeeks getting all triggered at the Feddie MC being an asshole
Which is funny, since he's like the opposite of the timid and sensitive UNDERSTANDING type like Jesus Yamato or Kio Asuno, which /m/ generally hates
I don't know, how short it is maybe won't make it all that memorable. Maybe when it comes out into it's full hour length, then it might be a interesting watch, but right now, who fucking cares really?
>shitty taste in music
Despite my earlier complaints about more OYW material, I wouldn't mind seeing more Thunderbolt.
>pilot jettisons from mech, opens enemy's cockpit and caps him in the head
>then steals his mech and peaces out
has this been done before? i thought that was a really fucking cool sequence
Nothing about it is interesting besides the Jazz music shit and even then it was meh at best.
Protagonist is a typical dipshit asshole who gets a hard on when he pilots his gundam.
A sniper not knowing his blind spot and letting an enemy casually open his cockpit and nail him in the head is stupid.
"We need to make the Zeon forces interesting.....how about we make all of them cripples....oh and the only one that matters plays music as well. That way we can contrast it with the main mc. Brilliant."
Whole episodes felt forced and nothing felt natural. Everything looks like it was calculated to go there and thus I wasn't enjoying it that much at all. This is going to be another gundam where people forget about it in a couple of years and say "cool concept, shitty execution".
>Whole episodes felt forced and nothing felt natural. Everything looks like it was calculated to go there and thus I wasn't enjoying it that much at all. This is going to be another gundam where people forget about it in a couple of years and say "cool concept, shitty execution".
Thunderbolt feels more like a toy commercial than Build Fighters.
>Protagonist is a typical dipshit asshole who gets a hard on when he pilots his gundam.
What other Gundam has a "typical dipshit asshole" protagonist? Io sounds rather untypical as far as the spectrum of Gundam protagonists go.
>A sniper not knowing his blind spot and letting an enemy casually open his cockpit and nail him in the head is stupid.
I'm pretty sure they all knew about their blindspot but nobody was expecting a Fed to get that close, much less escape in one of their own units. Also Hoover didn't "let" Io open the cockpit, Hoover opened it to check on the communications cable, and if you don't believe that someone opening the cockpit hatch from the outside is a normal thing since pilots can be incapacitated and need medical attention so those mechanics need a way to open it quickly. Also can't actual real life fighter jet's cockpits be opened from the outside?
Do you really hate this or are you just looking for something to complain about, because IBO is much more fertile for growing complaints.
Who said anything about THEM, or US? I watch IBO every Sunday, I want it to do well, and every Sunday I'm left mostly disappointed they nothing actually developed from that day's episode so I can see actual complaints about IBO having merit while these just sound like vague write offs "felt forced" "wasn't enjoying it"
>What other Gundam has a "typical dipshit asshole" protagonist?
Call it a preference but I didn't enjoy it. He sounded like a tool at the end.
>I'm pretty sure they all knew about their blindspot but nobody was expecting a Fed to get that close, much less escape in one of their own units.
Yes because when your life is on the line, you don't cover all your basis. It was too easy and I was disappointed that this supposed strong group didn't have countermeasures.
>IBO is much more fertile for growing complaints.
Typical of a Thunderboltfag. Can't keep the discussion on the show and so he has to divert the attention to another anime. Keep the discussion to strictly Thunderbolt you faggot.
Remember when GBFT couldn't even keep a general up by the end? God that show when from such high hopes to nothing
>you don't cover all your basis
They were sniping, in space, in the shoal zone and were having zero problems. Of all the plans in gundam to complain about there's wasn't one
I like Io for being an unapologetic asshole, its different besides there's always Daryl. Thunderbolt does have 2 protagonists.
>cover all your basis
>supposed strong group
I never got the impression the Living Dead Unit was "strong" rather they're even more under-supplied, and under-manned than a typical Zeon unit. Enlighten me, how should they cover all their bases? How do you plan a countermeasure against someone in a normal suit coming in from a blind spot while enemies are still coming at you directly?
Yes because if I write a finely tuned post about what he could have done, I can already imagine the "write your own series' or "no one cares faggot" posts creeping up.
My complaint is there and you guys can try to come up with piddly little responses trying to soften the criticism but at the end of day it was a terrible death. I mean once again it comes back to my complaint about how calculated shit was, they needed death and so they came up with this blindspot crap.
The shoal zone's a fucking death trap even for heavily-armored mobile suits, much less one guy with a jetpack protected only by his normal suit. The snipers were prepared for a military offensive, not Io channeling the spirit of motherfucking M.D. Geist.
Blindspots aren't real? Stories shouldn't come up with ideas? Especially somewhat inventive ones that gives a reason for character interaction and spurs on motives of other characters?
I don't even get the calculated comment. Are you saying that because the story had logical events that lead up the moment it was bad. You also seem to be so fixed on them pushing in a death thing which is just wrong, they had already shown a lot of death so it isn't like they were just pushing one in to seem edgy. It was just a natural course of action in a war
As opposed to you coming up with piddly responses to make your criticisms more valid? Blindspots are a real thing, how it was executed came off as something that could plausibly happen and be explained within reasonable boundaries. If you wanted to just write it up as plot armor that's fine, but how it was handled was fine while your criticism doesn't hold up.
The Thunderboltfags are working overtime huh? Amusing is all I will say. I got things to do and so I won't be here all day arguing over anime, feel free to circlejerk the show until I comeback.
Finally get a decent gundam from the last 10 years that isn't about kids, toys, schools, gay faggot shit in general, fujoshit, fan pandering
>4 PART ONA WOW LOL.
Meanwhile orphans that covers all the above and peado pandering gets 24 part series.
Anime is ruined.
Thank god for the back catalogue gems
>what was the initial reaction from /m/ when it premiered?
A bunch of bickering about whether it was 0079 canon or not, whether it was zeonwank or not, and whether or not we really need more OYW stories.
As a jazz guy, I have to say I'm a bit disappointed by the choice of music. It's that light-weight nigh-structureless "free jazz" that is a watered down descendant of actual big band jazz. Not quite Kenny G tier, but not far from it. Also the show's jazzman is a complete and total prick, jazz is about being happy and having fun, not being an edgy white devil like Io.
The animation was pretty nice, though.
lolwut? Kira is EXTREMELY proactive and generally outgoing. He doesn't *hesitate* to kill, he makes a conscious choice to try not to. Being merciful and being timid are two very different things. When people don't back down and go home when the have the chance, Kira charges them at full speed.
X Gundam and Crossbone Gundam did this before, minus the whole "cap in the head" part.
It's because they cut a lot from the manga. The Zeon forces are cripples for a reason - they're literally leftovers from regular sorties that are useless and have nothing to live for. A scientist who is working on bionics and 1:1 motion capture asks if he can make use of them, so they form the Walking Dead unit.
It's actually pretty fucking cool.
You know they actually did shit like that in Vietnam, right?
>lol fuckin Xbox live mic spammers in Nam, blaring music from their attack helicopters
>fucking ruining this "serious" war for the rest of us
this is now a jazz thread
Now you has JAZZ.
>what was the initial reaction from /m/ when it premiered? anyone else looking forward to the next episode?
The initial reaction was to shit post it by derailing the thread into whether or not Zeta Gundam A New Translation was canon. /m/ is so full of bored retards that they need to shit post about other topics in unrelated threads.
I am so ready for the fight between Psycho and Full Armor.
So how much are people going to shitpost when the next OVA is heavily from the Zeon sniper POV and people learn that both the EF pilot and the Zeon pilot are sharing the MC spotlight in this series?
So how long before Io turns into a cry baby pacifist pussy cuck who spends half his screentime going "waaaaah I don't wanna kill people even though I'm a fucking soldier and that's my goddamned job uwwwaaaahhhhhhh" and the other half committing genocide as easily as any normal person draws breath?
lol, get called out on your absolutely false info and your only response is "K JUST MY OPINION BUT I DIDN'T LIKE IT."
Largely positive reactions from most of /m/. Most of /m/ is more than happy to see a high budget, decently directed gritty grunt UC side story.
Some negative reactions from autistic shitposters that prefer Gundam be more weird and kiddy than it already is.
Thunderbolt is a love letter to anybody who liked 0080/83/08th MS/IGLOO/etc. Haters tend to be fags that want another Turn A/G-Reco or SEED/00/Wing, probably watch moeblob and harems and in general need their shows to simulate having a cute virgin girlfriend(s).
Anybody that couldn't tell it was a dual protagonist situation from this episode alone is a complete fucking moron. And it is amazing how many of those morons are in this thread.
Ali Al Saachez.
Charles Beams in Eureka 7 also jumped out of his cockpit to point blank shoot a mech with a shotgun which was pretty nifty.
It was alright. Animation was nice, mood was interesting. I hope the rivalry thing becomes the main focus though, I don't see them being able to pull of much more than that in 4 18 minute episodes.
I will say, while I like the shading style, the art style is just a little too exaggerated for it's own good. Works well for Io, but some character just end up looking weird.
I think it'll be a fun, but overall forgettable romp.
(They made the Gundam intimidating as fuck though, which is awesome. I'd post the whole webm, but it's way too big.)
Good to see that like the Federation, the Zeeks don't put locks on their mobile suits, even when said suits are in use.
And that's why I always lock my car doors when I go for a drive.
i looked up "patti page - tenessee waltz" but i don't think it's the same song that the zeke pilot talked about
there might also be a song called "short shorts" that he was thinking of but the other guy was talking about nudie mags
I don't know he's a pretty good Naked Snake
A guy in a busted up core block could do it, why not just send commando teams floating inside debris pieces to take out the giant robot snipers?
Cause it is stupidly far away so even if they tried to just go half way in MS they'd be spotted and attacked. Io doing it himself is to show how he is willing to try crazy plans and can pull stuff like that
>The Zeeks all listen to fucking J-pop
I mean really
Zeek pilot has friends.
Feddie pilot has limbs and better taste in music.
I symphetize with the feddir pilot, since he ain't getting one and is lonely, unlike the zeek guy.
Also, no rape , which the manga ran it without constraint in Front mission manga.
The only thing Thunderbolt has in common with Cowboy Bebop is that they both have Jazz. Which could just be the former attempting to invoke the latter (they're both made by Sunrise, after all).
At most, Thunderbolt feels like an edgelord trying to mimic Bebop but missing the point, and self-inserting grimdark characters.
Military equipment typically doesn't have locks on it. Your car has a lock because it's a high value piece of personal property that is often left unsupervised among the general population. Military equipment, while of even higher value, is either in the hands of those using it or repairing it, or is stored (most of the time) securely on guarded installations. If you lose your car keys, it inconveniences you but outside of emergencies, isn't particularly life threatening. if you lose the keys to military equipment, then you have a problem. Also, a car is typically more of a loss to an individual than the loss of military equipment is to a government due to the scale of funds available.
Actually the anime has cut a lot out of the manga yet since there wasn't actual focus on the Living Dead Division in the first episode. Okay, they did cut or redo a lot of minor things that helped humanize the Zeon soldiers like the Living Dead Community Bus, and the moment between Daryl and his relief was turned into a fan service scene.
Regardless, the soldiers of the Living Dead Division aren't out on the field because they have death wishes, you have to remember Daryl is fighting to give his family a better chance (Because of his service, his family got moved into better housing, his sister could go to school and his father was able to get the medical treatment to save his life.)
Also most soldiers who get crippled want to return to the battle field because they don't want to abandon their comrades who are still fighting. This is pretty common if you look up what happened in the 2nd Iraq War where soldiers were maimed by IEDs and after they recovered, demanded to be redeployed to their units.
Either way, expect this to be explained in the episode 2 since the focus will be on the Living Dead Division. Hopefully they won't make Daryl come off as sulky like they did in the first episode of the anime.
That wasn't me. I actually doublechecked last night and got to see it. I'm not as much a fan of the gritty artistic style, but the characters were interesting, I loved how the setting justified the multiple shields, and the look of terror on the Zeeks faces when they saw Gundam was priceless.
It didn't bring me the triple distilled joy and comfy I've grown to expect from IBO, butI eagerly await the next chapter. Personally I'm still a little bummed we aren't going to get to see this sexy little number.
Watched it, really liked a lot of it. But Io Fleming is annoying. Guy has a total boner for his Gundam when like a dozen of his comrades got killed.
At least Lorenz felt grief even though he didnt like the guy, it felt more realistic.
I guess I'm rooting for the Zeeks in this one.
Io kills that one sniper up close so all his zeek friends can see as revenge for all his dead friends. Shame they cut this line
The last thing he does at the end of this part is kill a whole bunch of zeeks
What even more funny is there were debating over if they should release the Federation prisoners on the ship so they could have a chance to escape as well since the ship was scuttled.
they kinda failed, I mean he didnt really need to say that, the Zeeks looked like douche bags in that whole sequence mowing down dozens of federation mobile suits with no possibility of reprisal while laughing it up about music. Then they get super butt hurt when the one lone feddie survivor manages to kill one of their comrades, and Im supposed to feel like hes the asshole..
>Snipers are douchebags for doing their job and defending their territory from an enemy attack
>They suddenly panic when not only one of their teammate's positions get compromised, but the pilot get killed and his suit gets jacked, all the while the person who did it is taunting them.
>This means they're smug and butthurt
I get you're a Feddie Drone, but come the fuck on.
Both Io's and Daryl's characterization had scenes and moments that put them in a better light on the chopping block in the first episode. Daryl was made to look more whiny than he was depicted in manga with his conversation with Io, because he got really offended when Io made fun of his legs as opposed to the Manga.
Although, let's face it, the only person Io really gives a shit about is Cornelius. Other than that he just wants to keep on flying in a mobile suit to forget about all the trouble with his family.
Just how bad did they fuck up the One Year War storyline? If I recall correctly, in episode one of msg the Feddie MS and Gundam were brand spanking new prototypes and before they were just using space fighter jets and ships to fight against Zeek Zakus. Thunderbolt, Blue Destiny, 080: War in the Pocket, and Thoroughbred really fucked up the original premise of the show. At least MS 8th Team's Gundams were just made of spare parts
went into this with zero expectation but holy fuck this was amazing. Love the music motif. Love that it's not another moe-blob style shit. Wasn't expecting a gundam OVA to deliver something fresh in anime scene in a long time.
>Getting sentimental about the people you kill about in a war.
Go away Shiro, the moment you start sympathizing with the enemy, is the moment you hesitate to pull the trigger, the moment you hesitate to pull the trigger, is when you might get your teammates killed. By your logic, a majority of Federation Pilots and Gundam protags are monsters too because they don't feel bad when they kill Zeon soldiers.
Disappointing if i had to be honest. I thought the jazz stuff was corny, hated the blonde MC, didn't like the romance shit or that Zion are cripples. I think the worst part was how he killed the sniper. Ending was stupid as well.
Overall it was a lot of flash but very little substance. 6/10. Hope episode 2 is better.
>lot of flash but very little substance
>comes to a board solely devoted to fucking robots and shit shows about robots
honestly i still dont understand how people complain about content. watch the slick ass fights and shut your overly inflated ass up. you want substance dont watch an anime produced by a company wanting to sell you fucking toys
Wtf is the problem with you people
>Semi Believeable military protagonists instead of whinty angsty teens
>Gritty low level grunt fighting
>Stone cold fucking murder, no honorable enemy bullshit
>A minimum of romance subplot, and what there is Chad-tier alpha game
I expected more is all I am going to say to your post. It didn't live up to anywhere near my expectation and if it wasn't for the presentation in visuals, sound and animation this would be a 5/10.
Don't quite follow you there, try again.
not that guy, but I think Wing's focus on plot, characters doing nonsensical things, and Heero being the exact opposite of Io is what he was insinuating, while also implying that you are between the ages of 14 and 18.