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New Tomino fan here. I've been wondering, are Tomino's other shows as deep as G-Reco? By that I mean, do they all have the same subtle sort of dialogue that, to the untrained eye, seems completely random, but actually reveals itself to be quite clever after a bit of thought? Stuff like how "The world isn't square" has a double meaning to it, expressing the existence of differing philosophies while simultaneously making an observation about the immediate conflict at hand, or how Raraiya throwing an apple represents the difference in values between the two cultures. Just for a couple examples. I really like that about G-Reco, and am hoping I can look forward to more of the same when I watch Tomino's other works. Pic hopefully related.
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>>11945856
nice reverse psychology bro
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>>11945864
What is this supposed to mean?
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>BrainPowered
Oh boy
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What you're looking for is Garzeys Wing and Turn A Gundam.

Both Tomino's finest works that have everything you want. Although, I'd recommend Garzeys Wing dubbed because the sub acting was actually pretty poor for once.

After those two, watch Overman King Gainer as it's got a similar vibe to G Reco.

Brain Powered is garbage though.
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>New Tomino fan here.
> I've been wondering, are Tomino's other shows as deep as G-Reco?
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In this thread: watch people take transparent bait seriously.
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Turn A is everything RecoG tries to be, except it actually succeeds.
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>>11945868
>>11945871
Yeah, Brain Powered was just the first example that came to mind. I don't know anything about it but I like the OP song.

I know this is /m/, a place where shitposting runs rampant, but I just want to say I'm not out to troll anyone. This is a serious question from a big fan of G-Reco who otherwise doesn't have much experience with Tomino. So thank you, >>11945871, for the serious answer. Turn A in particular I've always meant to try but I feel like I'd appreciate it more with more Gundam under my belt.
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>>11945856
>deep as G-Reco?
Wut
The only deep one he's made was Ideon.
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>>11945877
No problem, and yeah i'd guess you'd appreciate Turn A more if you watched some Universal Century shows.

>>11945892
Only deep thing about Ideon was Be Invoked.
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>>11945856
Holy shit Hime's expression in that is priceless

SON, I AM DISAPPOINT personified
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>>11945877
If you do watch Garzeys Wings make sure to get drunk beforehand. Trust me.
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>>11945868
>>11945871
2deep4u
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Brain Powerd isn't really deep. It's just more character focused, really weird, and has ultimately a very simple theme and message. It's a show about family, and everybody has family issues.

I think due to the post-Evangelion wave people confused more character-psychology-focused shows with trying to have a deep message.

Then again, I didn't think Evangelion was particularly deep either, although I haven't watched EoE because I liked the TV ending. The imagery is just nonsense to look cool, it has no actual meaning. The last two episodes just has a bunch of vague budget-saving imagery for you to stare at while it just literally states what the characters are thinking.
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>>11945856
Why is it that only Tomino writes clever dialogue?
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Brain Powered = greatest anime opening ever!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp9TUMJugnw
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By the way, how is L-Gaim at this?
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>>11945856
what your looking for isn't Tomino stuff but a story with a lot of world building that doesn't give the full exposition to you right away
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>>11946294
Can you name some other examples of that? Doesn't necessarily have to be anime, or even mecha if you have something really good in mind.
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>>11945892
Ideon isn't really that deep though, not until near the end. And it's certainly not as much as the slow realization late in one of his other shows that "oh holy shit the main character is fucking insane".
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>>11946692
>holy shit the main character is fucking insane
Daitarn 3, isn't it?
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I legitimately thought CCA was "deep", and I agree with most of Char's views.
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10/10 op
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>>11945856
Tomino sure likes to put little details im his shows
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>>11949661
does someone have another one like this two?
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>>11946129

Brain Powerd is about butt slamming! :)
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>>11946178
I wouldn't say only Tomino does it, but it definitely has something to do with his scripts playing out more like theater than animation.

>>11946692
>>11946714
Daitarn 3, yeah.

Like how Zambot is basically Kappei slowly becoming less of a little shit only to have everything ripped away, Daitarn is basically Banjo gathering up bitches and bros with his charisma and heroism, but is ultimately revealed to be at least as much of a monster as his enemies are.
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>>11949701
>that banter
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>>11949661
Zeta was all about him being pushed to become his father's son for the sake of the AEUG.

CCA is about him taking it too far after being convinced man could force humanity to evolve.

The AEUG has a habit of using people recklessly.
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>>11949701
I used to think this was just coincidence but after Bellri's duck in G-Reco I'm not so sure anymore.
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>>11946330
Eureka 7 is widely recommended. Same character designer as G-Reco, incidentally. Sexy, sexy mechs. Does drag in places due to being about 10 episodes too long, unfortunately. Avoid the movie and sequel at all costs; they will shit on everything you love.
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>>11950475
I'm sure it was not a coincidence. Everything in CCA seems like it was planned out for a long time, if partly due to Tomino's own frustrations.
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>>11948683
I don't think CCA is particularly deep but I do think it has a strong message which helps the narrative. It feels like a nice culmination of everything before it even if it does feel really rush.
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>>11950620
Seriously, the worst part about the movie and AO are probably that, while they're already pretty fucking terrible on their own, they shit on the original in so many ways while doing it. Especially the movie, since AO at least followed SOME of the same major themes E7 did even if they did it while flying around with a fucking retcon gun, the biggest textbook example of a Gary Stu I have ever watched with my own two eyes, and loss.jpg
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>>11951106
Don't forget the manga, which ended on a more depressing note.
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>>11949701
>God, that scotch was so much better than this Sweetwater piss.
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>>11949731
>Banjo
>a monster

Yeah, nah. I've seen enough SRW to know that Banjo is the Superman of mecha anime.
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>>11951129
Alcohol is always better with your lover.
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>>11951140
Banjo's the Batman of mecha anime, man.

With shades of Tony Stark.
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>>11951192
I don't know who the hell either of those are.
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>>11951925
stick to A/Z faggot.
Why don't you go watch Daitarn then it'll make playing as Banjo in SRW more enjoyable once you've seen the show already.
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>>11951936
No, I know Banjo, I mean Batman and Tony Stark. I'm guessing they aren't even Japanese. So what the fuck? Why would I know them?
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>>11951981
I agree.
Non-Japanese shit can't be good.
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>>11946129
>Then again, I didn't think Evangelion was particularly deep either, although I haven't watched EoE because I liked the TV ending.

"Get a life, you dolt" is a pretty meaningful message to an audience obsessed with cartoons, I think.
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>>11952001
but the execution is painfully obvious without subtlety. Anno just rehashes ideas and themes used earlier in the mecha genre because early mecha shows and stuff like Tomino is what influenced him.
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>>11952001
It's a pretty simple message, and the show wasn't exactly subtle about delivering it.

Sure, it's a good message, but that doesn't make the show deep.
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>>11952017
Anno's a jackass, he basically just completely ripped off Gunbuster.
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King Gainer OP.
Happy Tomino at his second finest.
After that watch Xabungle.
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>>11952142
King Gainer is pretty great

Best opening ever
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>>11952142
It seems to me that Tomino's also at his most clever when he's happy. It's been the case for G-Reco, and it was the case for things like Turn A and King Gainer.
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>>11952116
He can't rip off his own creation, retard.
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Ever notice that the people who say "pay attention" is a weak defense are also the ones who utterly fail at paying attention?
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>>11955806
TAG and Gainer were written by other writers.

Gainer was done by the guy who did Geass and VVV and ha been cited by Tomino by being a failure.
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>>11959952
Man, this isn't even a case of someone being intentionally obtuse. You just missed some incredibly obvious sarcasm and then went on to call the other person a retard, as the icing on the cake. Just, wow.
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>>11960422
Okay, wise guy, which shows are the ones that Tomino wrote all by himself? List 'em.
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>>11948683
Some time I feel like dropping a asteroid on earth, Do you ever have that feeling?
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>>11960424
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>>11960422
>Gainer was done by the guy who did Geass and VVV and ha been cited by Tomino by being a failure.

I really tend to doubt Tomino has ever said that. Sounds more like you're bitter as fuck.
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>>11961937
Who the hell said anything about trolling? Good grief, if you're trying to shitpost, it's failing pretty hard.
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>>11951981
Here's Batman.
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>>11962093
You'll have to do better than that if you want to bait me.
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>>11962471
Sorry, your bait attempt didn't work.
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>>11948683
I think this one is pretty deep. No joke.
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>>11948683
Is his asshole really that deep?
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>/m/ still considers middle school tier terms like "deep" to be legitimately descriptive of something and not vague and inherently useless terms.

Why am I not surprised
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>>11967374
>says while using "middle school tier"
Hilarious.
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>>11960433
He wrote bits and pieces of most of his shows, but Zeta is the only show that was primarily written by Tomino.

Which might be why all the characters are insufferable and the dialogue always sounds stilted as fuck.
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>>11951981
"Tony Stark" is what some silly westerners call Iron Man.
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I seriously recommend BrainPowerd, op. It's one of my favorites. You're not going to understand 90% of what the hell is going on at first, but just keep watching and questioning. It's worth it, yo.
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>>11946330
eureka seven and AO
gundam 0079-ZZ,f91 and victory
evangelion, overman king gainer
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>>11946330
Fafner.
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>>11967623
it is sooo hard to find, even the dvd are out of print and cost an arm and a leg
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>>11967778
Which is why we mecha fans have no shame when it comes to piracy !

(Bakabt.me to find what you're lookin' for, eh)
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>>11950475
>Bellri's duck
Excuse me, what?
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>>11967451
Wait, what about G-Reco? Isn't that all him?
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>>11971290
Unless something way too deep for me happened and I'm forgetting it, he's probably referring to how Bellri used the same ducking move from episode 1 to kill Dellensen, rather than a graveyard duck from which you must retrieve a silk bag.
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>>11967623
What do you mean by keep questioning? Keep creating threads on /m/ asking what's going on? Or is this a way of saying to keep thinking a lot about things as it goes along until you eventually understand it, like what you're supposed to do with G-Reco? I suppose doing both of them is also an option, and the former helps greatly for people who have trouble doing the latter.
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>>11945856

AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHA

I love you, /m/. You guys never seize to amaze me. Great sense of humor, 10/10.
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>>11945856
>Brain Powered

Kid asks Jonathan if he wants to suckle on his mommy's breasts

Jonathan fucks Yuu's mom

Turns out Jonathan has mommy issues

DEEP
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>>11945856
Deepness factor

Brain > Ideon > Dunbine > Rean > G-Reco > Zeta > Turn A > 0078 > CCA > King Gainer
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>>11972869
Forgot Victory, put it in between Turn A and Zeta.

tl;dr watched brain powerd and ideon
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>>11972869

Forgot his deepest works, Daitarn III and Zambot 3.
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>>11972869
Why is Ideon deep? Everyone dying and spirits existing doesn't make it profound.

Is deep=good? Then Ideon should be at the top.
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>>11972896
Everything in Ideon is straightforward.
Ideon is also really good near the end.

Deep? I have no idea what the fuck that means
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>>11972879
Brain > Ideon > Dunbine > Zambot 3 > Rean > G-Reco > Victory > Zeta > Turn A > 0078 > CCA > King Gainer > Daitarn 3

>>11972896
And as usual /m/ confirms that all it knows about Ideon is "hurrr everyone dies at the end so its basicully evangelion and thus superficial because eva sux for being popular".

>>11972900
Double-meanings and foreshadowing and in dialogue, like OP asked for? Also stuff being metaphors for abstract ideas.
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>>11972909
I watched the whole fucking thing. I'm asking WHY it's "deep" since it's very straightforward as >>11972900 said.
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