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So how was the Kikaider Reboot? Did it do well enough to spark momentum for a show?

Also with this and the Gavan series slowly coming back mostly in movies, what other older shows do you think could still come back given the chance?
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>>11361540
>Did it do well enough to spark momentum for a show?

Nope. It bombed worse than the Gavan reboot. Reviews said that the movie itself wasn't a disaster though, just not really stand out either.
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>>11361565
Do they really expect to make a lot of money off the movies? Don't most of these series pay for themselves with merchandise?
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>>11361540
It is not spectacular, but it is getting a sequel.
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>>11361572
Did they say that?

I've always thought it would be cool to have a movies series that existed apart from a tv show. Don't know how sustainable that is in this genre though.
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>>11361572

What!? Is it for serious?
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I saw both Kamen Rider THE FIRST and THE NEXT. THE FIRST was pretty lousy, THE NEXT was marginally better but still not all that good.

I don't know how they were received overall, but I doubt we'll be seeing a third movie.
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>>11361577
>>11361690
Kadokawa's Inoue said that before and while the movie was at the theaters.
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>>11361714

But the movie was a box office bomb
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>>11361700
They had great designs and action. If only there was some competent writing in between the fight scenes.
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>>11361540
Huge Kikainerd here. From what I've watched, it's now how I would have done it, but it looks like a good movie. Really hope it gets a sequel, the 01 part of the story has great characters.
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You want the best toku revival? This is it.
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>>11362072
>the 01 part of the story has great characters.

Do you mean the TV Series or the manga? Because the series is beyond terrible with the only redeeming quality being the Bijinder/Waruder episodes.
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>>11362081
>Because the series is beyond terrible
Fuck you, you... you... fuck!
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>>11362080
mah nigga
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>>11362090

Oh, c'mon. The series is a fucking mess for more than 2/3 of its run. Yeah, it gets awesome near the end but then the final episode is a huge letdown. It's pretty clear that the writters didn't know what to do with it. And as a result, there's no Kikaider OO series.
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>>11361540
Why does Kikaider looks like a monster?
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>>11362162
Yeah the end pretty much comes out of fucking nowhere and compared to the manga, it's shit, but the series itself is very good! I like how they managed the multiple Hakaiders, then the horror stories were great and once they're donde with all that, we have full android drama with Bijinder and Waruder. The action is amazing too, it's very fast paced and explosive, perfecto for toku. It's a great ride and Ikeda is one hell of a showa hero, wish he did more lead roles, R.I.P.
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>>11361540

Them Feels from the Gaim Episode though..
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>>11362181
Because to fight monsters, sometimes you have to create your own monsters.
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>>11362198
I was worried about the electric guitar and the lack of googles, neck piece and sidemachine but damn his acting is spot on.
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>>11361888
That's a relative term here. The movie was a VERY limited release.

A rumor going around is that one of Ishinomori's sons hated the piece.
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>>11362227
I'm very intrigued about how bad this movie is, even Igadevil who claimes to have liked Let's Go said it wasnt all that good.
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>>11362198
What would yall think about having these characters just flowing through the shows like this? Like giving them a movie but then having them pop up every now and again in Kamen Rider or Super Sentai?
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>>11362255
Nah, it works for a single episode to promote the movie but having them popping up every now and then would mess with the natural flow of the KR / SS series itself.
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>>11362227
Really?
The movie is now showing at Ishinomori Mangattan Museum. Both of the sons are doing promotion of it.
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any idea when the dvd is coming out?
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>Toei in charge of movie-productions

Nobody cares about tv-budget movies... I wish Toho and Tsuburaya would go back to making big-screen Toku movies, the recent Ultraman Zero movies are quality-wise so much above anything Toei produced in over a decade.
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You know what? I want a full tv series, not a fucking mess of a movie. There's no way to tell the Kikaider story in movie format.
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Silver Kamen (1971) / Die Silbermaske (2006)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Evx2Llt85Mo
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Mirrorman Reflex (2005)

>Mirrorman (????? Mir?man?) is the title superhero of a tokusatsu science fiction/kaiju/superhero TV series, Mirrorman. Produced by Tsuburaya Productions, the series aired on Fuji TV from December 5, 1971 to November 26, 1972, with a total of 51 episodes. This was Tsuburaya Productions' first non-Ultra superhero (even though there were concepts that were similar to Ultraman, which became Tsuburaya trademarks). Like Ultra Seven, Mirrorman was more of a dark and brooding science fiction drama than most other shows of its ilk. But by Episode 26, major changes were forced upon the series by the network (making the action lighter and the hero more like Ultraman), it became a typical action-oriented superhero adventure of its era.

>Over the years, there were several sequel series rumors. In 2005, this somewhat came true in Mirrorman REFLEX, a straight-to-DVD series that would be later compiled into a film. Featuring no characters or connection to the old series, REFLEX has a darker tone on par with the first half of the original television series.

all three Mirrorman Reflex movies can be watched here:
http://www.dailymotion.com/aki6221


>Mirror Knight, an homage to Mirrorman, appears in the film Ultraman Zero The Movie: Super Deciding Fight! The Belial Galactic Empire.
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>>11361571
Does this one have merch?
I know there are Kikaider Figuarts coming out but their the showa designs.
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>>11362249

Igadevil also thinks that Wizard is a better show than Gaim:

http://igadevil.tumblr.com/post/97430897823/gaim-45-thoughts
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>>11366277
Nobody cares about a full series.
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>>11366942
>Igadicks also owns a tumblr
Proven once again that Wizardfags are tumblords
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>>11366388
hey! I remember that! People were praising it when I got into toku back in 06
>no subs
no hope for humanity
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I just finished the anime and found it pretty good.

I don't know why people don't like it. I thought it was a pretty decent adaptation of the original manga minus the 01 parts.

I'm going to watch the OAV sequel now. I hope it's as good as the series, but I'm skeptical since I heard it's just 5 episodes long.
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>>11367612
to me the problem is the tone, way too emo, too much drama and barely any action. Also, skipping the part where kikaider fights robot dinosaurs? Come on! Still I like it anyway.
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>>11367612
my biggest problem was that it seemed overly focused on Mitsuko wanting Jiro's metal dick.

Jiro's parts were great. But too much focus devoted to Mitsuko. I really enjoyed the 01 OVA though.
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>>11367805
dat arm fixing scene though
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>>11366987
You don't write off Igadevil that easily.
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>>11367805
>Mitsuko wanting Jiro's metal dick
which she got
I know that scene was supposed to be emotional but I couldn't stop lauching
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>>11367805
>>11367841

Well, I heard that Kikaider was created in the first place because Hirayama asked Ishinomori to come up with a love story. Maybe they wanted the anime to focus on that angle of the original story?

It's pretty clear that much of this "love story" falls apart when Ichiro/Zero-One is introduced. So the decision to separate the story into two different series with a completely different tone.
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>>11367899
Asking Ishinomori for a love story sounds as good as asking Mike Bay to make The Artist, not equating them in any sense
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>>11367907
You know jack shit about Ishinomori.
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>>11368072
Misanthropy
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>>11366388
>>11366338
I heard there was a Lion Maru reboot some years ago. Was it good?
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>>11369121
It was weird and funny and really self-aware
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>>11369121
Not just a reboot, but a sequel to Lion-Maru. It was basically Deuce Bigalow - Henshin-Gigolo.

Also Henshin Ninja Arashi was sort of rebooted in Kamen Rider Hibiki.
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>>11369206

>A vengeful young man in a quest for revenge against metamorphic ninjas.
>A band of oni-themed Kamen Riders fighting man eating monsters using musical instruments.

I don't see the resemblance.
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>>11369264

you havent seen the show, didnt you? pic related...

also in Hibiki & the 7 War Oni they fight againts Arashis Iron Cross Army
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>>11369294

Iron Cross Army? Wasn't it supposed to be the Blood Wheel Clan?
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>>11369747
Iron... Blood
Cross... Wheel
Army... Clan

Psshh, its basically the same thing.
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Bumping and hoping for Metalder remake with decent ending
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>>11370058
Never
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hoping for Metalder remake with decent ending
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>>11370060
why anon
dont crush my dreams
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>>11370058
hoping for a decent us-adaption of that Metalder remake

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px52AkqelEk
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>>11370072
That ending is the best.
Your dream is ruining the masterpiece.
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>>11370105
the last 4 episodes were so rushed and the gravity-thing in the end was crap

am I being baited or something
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guys! what if... what if hollywood made a Kikaider movie?!
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>>11362080
It's on Netflix too.
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>>11370064

Metalder is already your poor man Kikaider.
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>>11367805
And to be fair, AniMitsuko sucks, TokuMitsuko is way better
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>>11370233

if it's anything like the cyborg 009 graphic novel, it would be a disaster
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>>11371255

Toku Mitsuko doesn't have that much of a personality to begin with.
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>>11371351
True, but wears very cute dresses.
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>>11366388
I don't suppose torrents exist? Looks amazing
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>>11371443
I'm pretty sure there were raws of the series form in episode form
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>>11371261
>graphic novel
more like shitty fancomic
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>>11371452
oh man you still post here???? I haven't popped into /m/ for 3/4 years,maybe more.. Wow. Do you still do that radio show you were working on?

Thanks for the reply, nothing up on nyaa, will try to look around next week though my toku resources are way out of date.

Really nice to see you are still around..
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>>11371454

Ironically, I heard that Kikaider would be the next. They were trying to do some kind of Ishinomoriverse.
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>>11371563
well, guess we can say goodbye to that, since 009 did so poorly
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>>11371680

There's no market for Ishinomori in the US. The Kikaider anime, the Cyborg 009 remake, the Tokyopop SkullMan and 009, the Comixology mangas, the american comic... Everything failed. So, what's the point?

Maybe some day an obscure Ishinomori title will be published in the west and receive a Eisner or something. Like what happened with Tezuka and Mizuki.
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>>11371465
yeah I still do that sorta
it would help if I updated my site more than twice a year, but... yeah

back on-topic maybe try the moonrunes? I might just be completely wrong and have it mixed up with something else, too.
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>>11371801
dude... i dont know if you noticed but... Hawaii... is part of the US.
Retard.
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>>11371934
Only available to Hawaii, is that what you want? LOL
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>>11371934

And Kikaider is only popular there due to the nostalgia factor. The anime\manga were not as well received because of NOT MUH KIKAIDA
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>>11371801
Whocares, the US is full of faggots anyway, real countries do acknowledge Ishinomori's genius
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>>11371563
>>11371680
Its better it didnt happen, 009 comic is awful, I dont know what they were trying to pull off
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>>11373829

Interest for a hollywood adaptation. Michael Uslan (the producer of the Batman films) is a huge Ishinomori's fan and bought the rights to do the film adaptation years ago.
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>>11374235
>Michael Uslan (the producer of the Batman films) is a huge Ishinomori's fan and bought the rights
Which Batman films? The Nolan ones? Ugh, no thank you, I don't want shitty grimdark Ishinomori bastardation
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>>11372173
>real countries do acknowledge Ishinomori's genius
>real countries
Like who? Third World shitholes that lack a proper movie and TV industry?
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>>11370233

If I was a director I would take some random obscure Toku license and use it as an excuse to make a Superhero movie.
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>>11362198
Translation: I must vaguely protect someone from something vague. Watch my movie damn it!
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>>11374346
pretty sure Uslan is producer on everything after the West movie
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>>11361577
Ultraman Zero did really well for a while on movies, V-Cinema releases and a web series. The problem is that it doesn't have the same presence as a TV series.
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>>11362255
I liked how SHTZ had the Ishinomori heroes from Fourze pop up. Wouldn't mind seeing the reboot Kyodain cameo in Drive or something.
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>>11374395

France published a lot of Ishinomori.
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>>11369121
It stars Sid as a man-whore with Lionmaru powers and it's great.
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>>11374752

I would rather see Inazuman again, alongside Reboot Kikaider. Those two belong together.
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>>11374822
I want Shotaro mentoring Kikaider and Gentaro mentoring Inazuman. Riders retiring and becoming the Tachibanas for a new generation of non-Rider heroes.
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>>11374822
if they don't do it I'll be super pissed
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>>11374864

Why Shotaro?
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>>11375889
Double is a half-and-half Rider, Kikaider is a half-and-half hero. Both in terms of design and composition (two people, human/robot).
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>>11362249
But Igadevil likes everything Kamen Rider related. And I too liked Let's Go
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Anyone read the Kikaider 02 manga? Know where I can find it? I needs it.
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>>11376281

eBay

It's not very good. You should just read the original manga if you haven't yet
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>>11375993

Except Gaim, it's Wizard-tier for him. He's not quite fond of W as well.
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>>11376456
But that's wrong anon. He loves Double, he even says it's a lot closer to Showa rider (which he adores) than most Heisei shows.
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>>11376448
I've seen/read everything except 02 and Reboot. I just want to be a completionist.
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>>11376728
Kikaidernerd here. You can find 02 on amazon, it's pretty bad but has some interesting stuff. As I understand, the only Kikaider thing that hasnt been released somehow in english is the Inazuman crossover with 02
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>>11376473

I remember him talking about how W doesn't feel like a Kamen Rider series and stands better as its own thing.
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>>11377045
the only thing I remember him saying about W was that he felt he was watching it out of habit up until the halfway point. He's more of a Showa - OOO - Wizard fan.
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>>11377045
>W doesn't feel like a Kamen Rider series
what the fuck
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>>11377045
Well, i think he changed his opinion. I remember him saying that in hindsight Double felt a lot more showa than most heisei rider shows.
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>>11377759
>>11377045
By different he ment different to the other heisei series. Remember that back then we just got done with Decade and W was indeed starting a different trend in KR. I don't think he has ever said he totally disliked something KR (well maybe the manga where V3 bitchlaps Junko)
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>>11374402
Superheroes are already taken as an excuse to make drama movies now.
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>>11378666
>well maybe the manga where V3 bitchlaps Junko

What!?
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>>11362080
The first part is an amazing love letter for the 70s crazy style of toku.

The second part is regular Noguchi weirdness. But still pretty awesome. Also, >DAT MUSIC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_emPOYRrleA
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>>11379041
Yeah, that happened in a showa manga drawn in the style of Ishinomori. V3 (transformed) bitchlaps Junko because she hugged him... wich I'm pretty sure would have decapitated her. Couldnt find scans though
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>>11383438

Is it by Ishinomori?
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>>11383647
No.
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>>11383661

There's any context to it?
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>>11383647
Nope, that's Mitsuru Sugaya
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