Listening to any complex music that requires the full attention of the listener for complete appreciation whilst reading is waste. Neither you appreciate the book fully, nor you notice the subtleties, for example as in OP, Beethoven.
I listen to music that I've heard a million times before this ranges from folk to Rachmaninoff. I need that beautiful white noise to separate my ears from the outside world so my eyes can focus on the page and not on the world around me.
>>7692584 Sometimes when I write and have no ideas it helps listening to music I like and pacing through my room. Sometimes even when I'm writing paragraphs I listen to something nice to give me energy and keep me focused.
Bach is best for Mathematics. I often need something to block out the talking/shouting/slamming/etc. While I feel bad for reducing the greats to muzak, I find it easier to concentrate with baroque than random noises.
>>7693045 Classical music has been used as background music since it's invention. The idea that you need to sit still and listen intently and with all your concentration like you're taking a giant shit is a modern invention and the king of bourgeois spooks. I'll use Beethoven's scores to wipe my ass if I so incline.
>>7693045 Pretty much this. My local train station now sometimes plays classical music in the mornings which, despite being irritating as fuck if you just want to wait in peace, is clearly only being done because "muh calming classical music". It's not a fucking commodity. Fuck.
>>7693065 >Classical music has been used as background music since it's invention Maybe true for Baroque music, Classical chamber music to some degree. But at least from the Romantic era onwards, you were supposed to actually listen carefully >The idea that you need to sit still and listen intently No you're supposed to read the score while listening if you want to learn something
>>7693097 >therefore only I can appreciate it No, but you just need a certain education to appreciate Art Music. In the same way that you need to have a certain knowledge about literature in order to understand certain books.
People are going around saying things like '[insert popular classical composer here] was a genius' without even understanding why. They only say that because it's the general consesus. And that's what makes me angry.
And I'm sorry, you're not going to be able to appriciate classical music to its full extend without knowing theory.
>>7693097 >You're like an SJW of art I don't really know how this is comparable, care to elaborate?
>>7693120 I don't know too many entry-level books because I pretty much always had theory classes during high school, learned most of the basics there. I guess you could check out Music Theory in Practice by Eric Taylor. Should provide you with lots of basic info that you need to understand music.
You use your supposed status as a student like a badge to police others because that's the only way you know how to discipline yourself. I'm sure you can formulate that others on this board are students as well since it's /lit/ and that's all the more sad.
Also what do you play anon, Piano student for over a decade here
>>7693076 >But at least from the Romantic era onwards, you were supposed to actually listen carefully oh yea, I'm sure everyone was silent and autistically running their hands over the score listening to Liszt. you seem to have no concept of historicism and an inability to read.
>if you want to learn something lol spoken like a school chump. art is to be enjoyed however one sees fit, flattening music into a moral or academic exercise is pathetic and a symptom of the modern academic industry's commodification of art music. i'll enjoy it while furiously whipping my dick to muted bara porn as wagner's parsifal blares
>>7693141 >I'm sure everyone was silent and autistically running their hands over the score listening to Liszt Well, they probably weren't reading the score but they sure as hell were silent. People actually paid money to see him play his compositions and were absolutely mesmerized by his skill.
You're so uneducated, I don't think that there is any hope for you left.
While you're pulling that shit on a literature board, tell me which reactant is left over and how many molecules of it will remain unreacted if compound Q is 53.3% carbon, 11.1% hydrogen and the rest oxygen (by mass). Twenty molecules of Q contain precisely one thousand protons. A 15.3 mg of Q is reacted with 26.4 mg of oxygen.
>since it's /lit/ >somebody makes a thread about music on /lit/ >gets pissed that people talk about music
>use your supposed status as a student like a badge to police others I merely pointed out that you're not getting the full expirience if you do not know at least a bit of music theory. If you don't give a shit, fine, go ahead.
this seems awfully bullshitty to me. I have to appreciate only the music? i can't look at a few paintings, or read a few chapters of a book while I listen to the Tempest? why? I genuinely don't understand why someone would be angry that someone listens to beethoven in a less concentrated way than someone else, as if they had sweat bled and wept over the very work itself. what's it to ya? it's no different than those angry plebs who don't want people to read at all if they're reading junk like twilight. who gives a shit? if they want to do it, let em!
>>7693116 He's kind of right. Music is its own language. Not that you're not allowed to appreciate it, but unless you learn to read it you'll probably just continue to misunderstand it. This is why most people dismiss it as pretentious nonsense.
Classical composition is not just mathematics in service of harmony, melody, rhythm, etc., but it woks similar to the way a work of literature dose. The composer sets out with an idea or problem in mind, and instead of describing or solving it with the use of metaphor, allegory, irony, etc., it's done through sound. If you can't read it, you can't appreciate it. And so you'll just stay mad.
>>7692760 I feel rather the opposite way about it. Music that isn't, how shall we put it, inspired by images (like a "pastoral" or something that's "meant to evoke an image in the mind's eye), which is to say, good music (Copland, if you'll recall, admonished against every associating pure music with image in the mind), helps me comprehend what I am reading with much greater clarity. Like Dark Side of the Rainbow, except no matter what I'm reading the music I'm listening to appears to compliment it in total conjunction. Again, if it's good music.
For writing, I must have as close to absolute silence as is reasonable. Otherwise I cannot properly sound the words in my mind
>>7695001 That's naturally untrue, but most people who aren't used to attentively listening to the structure of classical pieces won't be able to appreciate a large amount of classical music. It will take time for most people's mental abilities to be able to process it, even if you don't need to be able to name all the chord progressions.
Normally I need total silence while reading, but because I have so many loud chromosome hoarding plebs in my study hall, silence simply isn't possible. The next best thing is to drown out that noise with white noise or classical music and it has worked fairly well so far.
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