So /lit/izens, I am curious about your opinions on who are the most poetic hip hop lyricists.
I am asking on /lit/ to see who has the best technical ability in writing rhymes, and /mu/ wouldn't be the best place to ask about poetic capability.
Not the question. I didn't ask if hip hop had any poetic merit, I asked which hip hop performers had the most poetic lyrics. Obviously their rhymes are not going to be on par with poets like Keats or Poe, or many popular poets in literary circles. I was just curious who /lit/ thought had the most skill.
kendrick lamar: good kid maad city/to pimp a butterfly. him and death grips is the only hip hop acts worth listening desu thay are actually experimenting in every song and push boundries instead of being a bland and mediocre
Biggie is probably the best rapper I've ever heard. Dude knew how to tell a story.
His flow and delivery were top notch.
Eminem is clever with his lyrics and delivery, but a lot of his subject matter leaves something to be desired. I will admit I bump Rap God more than a reasonable person should.
Shithony Postano here :^)
>I agree with you about Death Grips
Kendrick is good but I haven't heard enough to really judge.
early nas, mf doom, andre 3k, that's probably it.
kendrick had his moments on gkmc but hes very inconsistent overall.
I've dicussed this on here before and people just say ''bait'' hur duur I bet you only listen to mainstream rap etc etc... People don't like the answer. I've listened to thousands of hip-hop records and have been impressed maybe once or twice.
Rappers are like dunce children when it comes to ''poetic capability.''
They use metaphor and similie with no subtly at all and are just shit poets to be completely honest with you.
The only people who are impressed by rappers for being ''poets,'' think that ryhming two or three words that are longer than four letters long means they're some kind of poetic genius.
Read any fucking masterful poet and then read lyrics to any rap song, ever. They can't compete. Rap can't even compete to other genres of music let alone compete with actual writers.
The amount of times I've heard people saying rappers are ''genius''... Now when I hear it, I genuinely get abit annoyed. It's like, what? You're telling me some guy who sings ''I sent dis bish a picture of ma dick'' can compete with someone who spent forty or fifty fucking years writing one single masterpiece ''poem'' while completely blind, in poverty etc etc. It's just fucking silly. Sick of hearing it now.
>who are the most poetic hip hop lyricists
>who has the best technical ability in writing rhymes
where do you see the question of "can they compete"?
if i ask which kid in the school has the best painting skills i want an answer and not a competition between them and actual painters, though im not op
Well, I did rant abit yeah, but I was just waiting for someone to say it. Usually they do and quite early on in these kind of threads.
Still, the most ''poetically able'' rapper is probably Aesop Rock like people have mentioned but even then, most poets make him look like a down syndrome if you compare them.
Aesop Rock is peoples choice precisely because of what I mentioned in the earlier post... He uses alot of ''big'' words that the average hip-hop fan has to google to understand... This impresses them. I actually don't mind rap if you take it for what it is... Easy to listen to music made to nod your head along to.
When people start spouting shit like ''Tupac was a genius, he's so deep, he was so political blah blah'' that's when I stop listening. Same for when rappers believe that they're prophets or fucking activists etc... Just make music, you're not as fucking deep as you think you are. I guess alot of ''conscious'' rap is fucking pretentious and that's where alot of the rappers people mentioned in this thread sit.
>lol why do you have to compare it to poets
because people claim to be poets. rappers claim to be poets.
>you are quite brave for using the word pretentious
says the guy who writes a sentence saying absolutely nothing on a literrature message board. fuck off mate, you're just mad that your idols are all retarded.
back to r hip hop heads or whatever the fuck its called, faggot
lol i really am not mad but maybe you are friendo. and my idols arent rappers though i appreciate rap music. i do not appreciate reddit. but anyways, i will stop arguing with a really clever 22 year old (or are you maybe even 23 or, dayum, 24?) after letting this here
Yeah man believe me, nobody is going to put someone like Keats on the same level as someone like Tupac. Not many rappers claim to be poets, and not many people I know listen to them for much other than quick semi-clever lyrics.
point of the thread, again, was to see who the most poetic of rappers there was. Not to call rappers in general just as poetic as some esteemed poet.