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which hemingway book should i start with?
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I started with For Whom the Bell Tolls, but I would recommend getting that with The Old Man and The Sea and reading that first.
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You can start anywhere and go anywhere. I would recommend starting with his novels and of those the ones that were published in his lifetime. In my experience A Farewell to Arms is the worst received of his novels so maybe start somewhere else.
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Islands in the Stream will tear your heart out
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a moveable feast if you're not a nerd
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>>7655401
>>7655379

Just today I finished A Farewell to Arms and loved it. Hemmingway's writing feels so casual, he seems to enjoy letting you figure out how characters are feeling through what they're looking at or what they're doing rather than through dialogue or the narrator.

I'm definitely going to read some more of his, I only wanted to show that A Farewell to Arms is as sufficient a start as any.
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skip him he's trash
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>>7656686
Faulkner, please go back to insulting your daughter.
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Sun Also Rises
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>>7656686
I second this. By far the most disappointing author I've read. Conceptually, his writing isn't very clever and the prose isn't even good. I could suffer a poor novel with beautiful prose but he doesn't even have that.
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>>7656736
>the prose isn't even good
Or you've weak faculties for recognizing such things. His prose is highly influential for a reason.
> "Ay ," he said aloud. There is no translation for this word and perhaps it is just a noise such as a man might make, involuntarily, feeling the nail go through his hands and into the wood.
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>>7656748
>highly influential for a reason.
Probably because most people are absolute plebs. Harry Potter is highly influential too. Get out of here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum
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>>7656759
>Harry Potter is highly influential too
But is it highly influential to important artists? You're comparing someone whose fiction has influenced nearly every major English writer since 1930 to JK Rowling, how desperate can you get? Get out of here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_fallacy
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>>7656748
it's influential in america because it was in society's interests to have people write simple, unaesthetic writing. it's why strunk and white is so "influential"
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>>7656748
>> "Ay ," he said aloud. There is no translation for this word and perhaps it is just a noise such as a man might make, involuntarily, feeling the nail go through his hands and into the wood.

Literally garbage compared to any real patrician authors. Here's some Melville.

>With halting steps I paced the streets, and passed the sign of "The Crossed Harpoons"- but it looked too expensive and jolly there. Further on, from the bright red windows of the "Sword-Fish Inn," there came such fervent rays, that it seemed to have melted the packed snow and ice from before the house, for everywhere else the congealed frost lay ten inches thick in a hard, asphaltic pavement,- rather weary for me, when I struck my foot against the flinty projections, because from hard, remorseless service the soles of my boots were in a most miserable plight. Too expensive and jolly, again thought I, pausing one moment to watch the broad glare in the street, and hear the sounds of the tinkling glasses within.
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>>7656769

>it was in society's interests to have people write simple, unaesthetic writing
Why do you think this?
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>>7656782
>>7656759
>most people are absolute plebs
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>>7656769
>it's influential in america because it was in society's interests to have people write simple, unaesthetic writing.
You seem to lack basic knowledge of history.His work has also been influential in Britain btw
>>7656774
I could say literally garbage and post some Shakespeare, you're literally spewing sophism. You can't even articulate your reasons, you just post a paragraph and say it's self evident that, since melville is better, hemingway is bad.
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>>7656782
why do you think "business writing" is taught with increasing frequency in high school/college now? time spent contemplating art and aesthetics is time spent not working and producing.

also cause most people simply aren't interested in complicated/sophisticated prose. having to "waste time" parsing writing is highly undesirable these days. whereas in the old days, it was expected for a reader to put in the effort to understanding writing, it's now the onus of the writer/speaker/presenter to make his content accessible to the lowest possible denominator.

t. someone shitposting at work while working in corporate america
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>>7656787
>You can't even articulate your reasons, you just post a paragraph and say it's self evident
>Or you've weak faculties for recognizing such things. His prose is highly influential for a reason.
Nice double standard bro.
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>>7656800
You're the one with the outrageous assertion that one of the most highly regarded writers of the 20th century, praised by everyone from Faulkner to even Nabokov and Joyce, is worthless. I'd say the burden of proof is on you, senpai
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>>7656787
>since melville is better, hemingway is bad
There are superior authors more worth the time, yet he is held by many on the same level - I found him disappointing and vastly overrated. That is an absolutely legitimate opinion, it doesn't mean hurr durr I just don't understand him. His writing is very basic in comparison to many.
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>>7656786
>>7656793

Calling it "in societies best interest" is a gross exageration
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>>7656828
sorry, replace society with "what capitalist/corporate driven business puts forth as society"
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>>7656823
>His writing is very basic
Kek, yep you misunderstood him
>>7656828
He isn't literate.
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>>7656833
buddy just cause Hemingway is the most "intellectual" author you enjoy and you have zero capacity to objectively evaluate prose doesn't mean everyone who disagrees with you is illiterate.

it's ok to be a pleb anon, you're on the internet, no one knows who you are. chin up tiger.
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>>7656813
Even if I, unknown and unpublished, rewrote Old Man and the Sea, the prose would be orders of magnitude above Hemingway's rendition. He also fails to meet many opportunities in elaborating with deeper meanings and metaphors which in addition would greatly appreciate the work. Sorry but he just sucks.
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>>7656833
>Kek, yep you misunderstood him

lol this, can't believe there are actually people on /lit/ too dumb for Hemingway.
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>>7656774
Having read that quote I will never touch any 'Melville'. That is total fucking wank. Where's the psychology? What does that say about how we live and think? Jesus christ you are a pleb. Just because something sounds pretty doesn't mean it is saying anything. It's the same conundrum with pop music. It sounds nice at first listen but it's fucking wank when you drill down.
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>>7655389
What about In Our Time?
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>>7657679
Is this bait?

Literature needs psychology? I wish you ill. Hope you understand.
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>>7657694
He is a pleb that thinks that pop music sounds nice
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>>7656841
He does not fail to meet opportunities to actively present "deeper meaning". He actively, and with great deliberation and intention avoids these opportunities altogether. Now, this may or may not be appropriately criticized as a method of writing in its own right, but to say he "fails" at it is incorrect.
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The minimalism movement in modern visual art was too keep pelple docile and dull their brains and keep rm in the factory. Read Chomssky.
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fuck I always come into these threads late.
I am a massive Hemingway fanboy, not because 'muh guns and fishing,' but because he writes about relationships in such a heartbreaking style. Plus it's realistic.

THE FIRST FORTY-NINE STORIES
THE SUN ALSO RISES
A MOVEABLE FEAST

CONGRATULATIONS YOU'VE READ ALL THE HEMINGWAY WORTH READING.
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>>7657882
>A movable feast, worth reading
>No Old Man and the Sea
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>>7655379
hemmingway*
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>>7655379
farewell to arms seemed like a bad read to me, and i love hemingway

go with for whom the bells toll, sun also rises, and old man and the sea. those are easy and great read. farewell to arms is the one that is overrated. great message, but a poor read.
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>>7658381
Hemingway**
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>>7658387
How about Islands in the stream.
I really loved that book but the scene where his ex finds out her, and his, son is dead seemed to be off beat. I lacked some emotion in my experience.
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>>7656701
lmao
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>>7655379
His hamburger recipe. That shit is better than anything he ever wrote, which is really saying something.
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the sun also rises got me into cuckolding porn
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>>7656838
mad as fuck lel
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>>7658371

you have shit taste bro
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>>7656793
Why do you come on this board
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There is always one pleb in Hemingway threads that gets buried.
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