>>7646040 Much of why art is the way it is today is because of the invention of photography. Although he may be right about art otherwise.
His depiction of modern ethics is inaccurate. Nietzsche and Sartre's moralities are not at all popular. I think he is trying to get at the fact that there is increased individualism in the modern world, but there is still an acknowledgement of final cause in morality. Most people follow some sort of utilitarianism or humanism, the final causes being utility or human flourishing (using final cause loosely as he is).
I'll admit that he is smart and I am nowhere near a doctor of philosophy like him. But this was just a convoluted way of tricking people into thinking the church is actually misunderstood when people blame it for whatever people blame the church for. And I generally don't agree when he sais that modern morality is based on what the individual thinks is right. I don't even know how he took that out of his ass. Modern morality doesn't say racists are moral because they think they are right.
>>7646273 Modern morality has a liberal dogma of sorts that is based entirely on the feeling of those that adhere to it. Utilitarianism and humanism have no real foundations and essentially serve as justification of whatever you felt before rationalizing it.
Go outside some day, leave your basement, you will see that the world isn't made out of sjw. The vast majority of people still base their morality on utilitarianism and humanism, probably even more so than ever.
>>7646302 Humanism denies the rational of the universals and is nominalistic meaning it's not even sustainable because it has a self refuting axiom. Nature which man disconcerns with reason which is inherently reasonable and which has teleological moral rules within it was abandoned by humanism. Religion (which is far too wide of a term so I refer to the platonic tradition which still exists in form of Catholicism philosophically speaking) can build a sustainable, coherent axiomatic system with clear rules based in reason while humanism can only play smoke and mirrors about how lacking it's axioms are making it into a movement where as there are no universals everything is subjected only to will of the most powerful and influential and 'good works' only depend on that making it relative to the point of meaningless. >>7646313 I didn't bring sjw into this, why do you? Also the fact that humanism and utilitarianism are predominant over virtue ethics is completely irrelevant to the argument.
>>7646369 I knew a few who did, they are still my friends. None were fedora tier Nietzsche fans. He is often quoted all around the place by people who know jack shit about philosophy and pretending to like him is popular. That's why you have naturalists and humanists quoting him as an authority against Christianity.
To the people talking about humanism and utilitarianism, i think in modern society there is a lot of a type of care free sensualistic view to ethics and stuff, maybe coming from rampant consumerism plus the widespread atheism/faulty view of religion. Nietzsche would come in when people reject God and seek existential comfort (or whatever word) from personal success and human success. Now that may be going into something else when its projected towards humanity, idk. I think this ideas stay seperate in certain people (modern average person) and blend in others, placing the goals of travelling the world and viewing everything you can before you die, not having kids so you can have your car and time for yourself, looking to the bright future of science and human exploration in the cosmos, and looking at ethics in a very personal way, not viewing to any higher model or rule, like: why must i not have frivolous sexual encounters? Its fun, and we can be safe. Now i dont know how right this is but u think its something like that. Sorry if i sounded like a cranky old man, i know it might sound too moralistic for you youngsters (aha!).
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