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>novel written by a male in his early 20s
>main character is a 'not self-insert' young artist of a passionate and sensitive nature who falls in love with a girl but is misunderstood
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yeah people tend to write about what they experience and feel.
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>>7634238

Name 5 books that this applies to.
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This is a good rustle for these parts
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>>7634244
It's so fucking cliche and tacky, why would I bother reading about some pussy beta too scared to say hello
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>>7634238
>frogposter

kill yourself
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>>7634245
Sorrows of Young Werther counts as all 5
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I'd love to be so fucking bland.
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>>7634238

Would you buy my book about being a recluse who gobbles opiates to quell the drive towards intimate relations?

It would be just as trite as everything else
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>>7634238
It's called a roman a clef you pleb
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Self-inserts are the best type of character.
DFW and Joyce for example were not subtle at all about using them.
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>>7634312

Neither was Tolstoy, tbqh.
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>>7634245
Probably every John Green book
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>>7634245
A portrait of the artist as a young man has 5 chapters
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>>7634317
Levin, Pierre. Does he self insert in his shorter works?
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>>7634278
I wish you were this exciting
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>>7634343
Nekhlyudov from Ressurection and his first few books were autobiographical.
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That's kind of Hitler's life's story
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serves you right my novel has one character who does nothing except wander through challenging landscapes
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>Stephen king book
>main character is a writer from the north east
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>>7634640
>Philip Roth book
>Main character is a whiny Jew from New Jersey or thereabouts
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>>7634279
that's just a rebours
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self inserst and mary sues are the biggest problems of modern writing.

Say it with me
YOU ARE NOT YOUR CHARACTERS!
YOUR CHARACTERS ARE PEOPLE YOU CREATED WITH THEIR OWN THOUGHTS AND HISTORY AND BACKSTORY AND FUTURE AND LIKES AND DISLIKES
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>>7634649
Joyce is a hack for making Stephen Dedalus. Neat.

All characters are just shards of the author who created them anyway. How could a writer ever create something totally alien to themselves.
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>>7634658
>How could a writer ever create something totally alien to themselves.

its almost like other people exist, you narcissist fuck.

Do you have antagonists in your stories or love interests or parental figures?
Guess what in real life those people would think and act different from you, the way people grew up, a black person, an asian person, a white person, a women, a man, a poor person, a rich person, they all lived differently.
So shouldn't your characters be different?!

Where does your story start?
At what age is your character?
Do you discuss the characters past in the story?
do you know your characters future?
what are his goals, his wants, his needs?

Fuck you lazy fuckers!

hurrr ill just make the character me durrrr
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>>7634677
>a black person, an asian person, a white person, a women, a man
SJW pls go
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>mfw my project is about a flooded town and family whose daughter has died, but they can't bury her because the cemetery is flooded, so the theme is desperation for closure

Pretty derivative of As I Lay Dying, but I haven't even read that book. Despite that, feelsgoodman.png
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>>7634703
why dont they just cremate her
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>>7634721
Not traditional to town or family. This kind of town only cremates people with AIDS or people who've blown their heads off.

Or I just came up with that off the top of my head, but thanks for bringing that up. I can be reflexive of that in the story.
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>>7634677
>its almost like other people exist, you narcissist fuck.

how is another person totally alien
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>>7634730
Read Antigone
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>>7634636
I'd read it.
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>>7634838
Which one?
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>>7634928
Sophocles`
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>>7634357
DAAAAAMN
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>>7634649
how trite

focusing so much on the bare trivialities of the craft is the biggest problem in modern writing, my friend.
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>>7634245
La ciudad y los perros
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