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Have any of you read Mira Gonzalez'z work? What do you think of it?
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>>7632495
Go home, Mira.
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Go home Mira.
You're high again.
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>>7632502
>>7632511
Like she cares about the opinions of dead white nerds.
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>>7632495
just imagine how she smells
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She's pretty awful and will be forgotten so quickly once Vice goes out of style and the good poets of her age start getting recognized, she's just a meme. Her poetry barely counts as poetry, sub-par tweets that sound like a college freshman took a hit after reading Camus and had a falling out with their open-relationship partner.
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I've never read any of her work, but I'd love to "read" her "work"
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>>7632539
Go home Mira. You're drunk.
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Her writing is cheap and boring but she's ugly in a hot sort of way that makes me want to hurt her sexually.
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>>7632495
i can't take that nose ring seriously
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>>7633247
That's sexist.
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go to sleep, Mira
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Anyone who is rich enough to be college educated while living the "literary life" in New York has no right to moan about privilege to anybody.

Try living in a dead end rural shithole for a while, then see how horrible your 20 something "too much opportunity that I don't feel like taking" ennui feels.
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>>7633265
>Try living in a dead end rural shithole for a while

No thanks. Enjoy that resentment though.
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>>7633268

But what if the resentment is valid? What if anon bops Mira in the face for her privileges and her canthal tilt is thrown out of whack?
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go to bed tao
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>>7632495
they've some how captured her disgusting odors in the image you posted. awful.
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literally who
and literally why care
also literally stop being gay
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>>7633276
ur a brat lol
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>>7632495
No discernible talent.
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>>7632495
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Shit like every alt-lit "writer"
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>>7633691
>alt-lit

DUDE DRUGS AND SOCIAL MEDIA AND APATHY LMAO
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>>7633265
Great things come from shitholes
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She is alright. I liked this part from one of her books. I can really relate to the modern feelings she expresses.


"I feel defenseless and alone in a city that has a personal grunge against me. Texts received coming from those I no longer wanted to hear from. My only current comfort is the thought of arriving back home where I can numb my mind with drugs."
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>>7633783
But is it art? The first sentence is nice, the rest is just someone complaining about trivial shit and not even bothering to articulate themselves in an interesting way. Would a potentially great writer write "numb my mind with drugs" without realizing how cliched that sounds?
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>>7632563
goodd pepe
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>>7633701
You should have a look at his short stories if you enjoyed this (and haven't done it already)!
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>>7632542
period blood, bo and cigarettes
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write your best Mira impersonation.


started drinking alcohol at 3pm
at 11pm i went to a party wearing the same clothes i wore on thursday
at 12:30am the guy i lost my virginity to told me he is having a baby
at 1:30am i ate drugs in the bathroom without telling anyone
i don't know how to maintain relationships
most of the people i've had sex with have negative feelings about me now
starving to death during sex is something i would like to do this week
every time i look at my computer
i fight the urge to open a word document and list everything i ate that day
here is what i ate today:
coffee, curry vegetable thing from whole foods, plum
i am most comfortable around people who criticize me because
i feel like anyone who isn't constantly criticizing me is lying
or expecting me to be something different
seems insane that you need money to do things like
develop a drug addiction, or move across the country
i don't identify as 'depressed' even though i feel depressed
seems unfair that i only get to feel a finite amount of things in my life
lately i have been assuming that dried fruit has more calories than regular fruit
i feel like 400 dead jellyfish in the middle of a freeway

how was it?
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>>7633859
This is a mira poem though. I remember the "jelly fish on a freeway" thing.
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>>7633859
The funny part is when I lived in NYC I used to hire girls like that (and lena dunham) who's parents cut them off (or were poor to begin with). It was a sales company and this was their first "real job".

As the grind of being a secretary at Glen Garry Glen Ross started to be realized, you could see their killself level rise, especially after they got rejection letters from publishers or their off-off-off broadway plays were badly reviewed. Most of them ended up quitting and moving back to their parents in Ohio in disgrace.
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>>7632495
>Gonzalez'z
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>>7632495

I think it's very trite. The promiscuity, the drug use, the ennui, it's been done better a hundred thousand times before her. Her take is not interesting. Her pieces for vice can mostly be characterized as very, very lazy.

>>7632539

She obviously does. If she didn't, she'd stop shilling her shit here.
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>>7633602

Association word game for the smells Mira's pictures conjure. I'll start:

Mold
Mildew
Must
Earthy
Cigarettes
Sweat
Stale
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>>7634052
london
New Jersey
armpit
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>>7634052
freshly washed clothes and blankets
dry desert air
static
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>>7634097
oh and cannabis, coffee and pizza
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>>7632551
damn nigga what penitentiary did you graduate from zing zing prison ma nigga shit
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>>7632563
>>7633798
>last frame
what did he mean by this?
help me analyse please
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>>7634097
>sweaty sock

m i r a

b e m y g f
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>>7634046
zing zing ma nigga
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>>7634192
Its just 2 frames.
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sylvia plath 2: 0% as talented but hopefully still puts her head in an oven-oogaloo
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>>7634197
well i mean the one with the human in a field
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>>7633783
>"I feel defenseless and alone in a city that has a personal grunge against me. Texts received coming from those I no longer wanted to hear from. My only current comfort is the thought of arriving back home where I can numb my mind with drugs."


Yuck. It's like an entry in a vapid high school girl's diary.
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>>7634234
thats kind of the point i guess. idk. i actually really like tao lin's stuff and he cowrote some stuff with her so i'm trying really hard to wrap my mind around this and see something worthwile in there but i gotta admit i'm having a hard time

maybe that's tao's point too, that mundane writing is made "literature" by simply being considered literature by some sort of authority figure / person / something and made interesting by me spending time reading it and trying to wrap my mind around it

i wouldnt pay for it.
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>>7634329
at some point you have to stop doing all the work for them man

at some point you have to stop going "maybe.. maybe that's the point?? the less art it is, the more 'art' it is that it's not art?????"

at some point you have to realize she's just a 5/10 pretentious rich cunt who writes lowercase blogposts about her vagina

i fucked a girl identical to mira gonzalez in every way last month, she's an over-the-hill indian named sarah who writes exactly like mira on every single level except she wasn't lucky enough to get uplifted by an established figure, or to have mira's nepotistic resources and milieu, so she remains an alcoholic spinster that licks my penis after watching bad movies

modelmayhem is filled with miras if you ever want to fuck a mira. just go on modelmayhem and sort by new profiles, sort by least experience, and filter out all the ones who use their real names or professional stage names. look for hipsters using zany tumblr names and typing in lowercase. they will have eight blogs, a "photography website," and they are "really into fashion" despite being some nursing student. if you can tolerate them thinking they are some sort of clitoral reincarnation of andy warhol, you can lick any part of them you want
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>>7632563
>makes me want to hurt her sexually
that is surely the devil

cast him out, boy
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Is any alt lit worth reading? Mu curiosity has gotten he better of me and I think I'm going to read Fast Machine by Elizabeth Ellen and Taipei. Any other authors/works I should check out?
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>>7634052
Farts and whatever the smell version of "crusty" is.
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>>7634362
>so she remains an alcoholic spinster that licks my penis after watching bad movies
that's disgusting

why would you continue sexual contact with someone for whom you have such contempt?

it's immoral and gross t.b.h.
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>>7634362
i'm just trying to find some sort of explanation, i didnt really read much of her stuff just some blogposty extracts to see what the fuss is about.

i do think at some point a text can become important just by being famous/well endorsed enough simply because people will reference it and it'll be a piece of contemporary literature. that doesnt make the writing better (more skillfull or whatever) than it is but it does make the writing sort of - maybe not important - but essential to know if you want to understand contemporary lit which will always to some extent cite and reference other contemporary literature. and i think if lin's only reason to endorse her was that dynamic then that's sorta interesting

doesnt mean i really like the text or the author.

also sorry 4 shitty engrish it's not my first language and i'm tired af
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>>7634382
Cum, she definately smells of cum
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>>7634382
evocative desu

if i ever become hitler, i will give you a state sinecure as official stench describer
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>>7632495
This is what I think of her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_k4VfKR-cQ
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>>7634398

>why would you continue sexual contact with someone for whom you have such contempt?

Haha, oh, naïve little you.
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>>7634201
Please don't do Plath a disservice by comparing her to this vapid piece of shit.
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>>7634201
>write the literally same thing about her hopefully ODing something or putting her head in an oven
>one year ago
>she still hasn't
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>>7634414

>fat toni

fuck off back to /mu/ you faggot

you have shit taste in everything and shouldnt post
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>>7633783
>"I feel defenseless and alone in a city that has a personal grunge against me
>personal grunge
>grunge

kill yourself
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i think yall should focus on reconciling with your own discernible lack of talent instead of wishing death upon someone who is more successful than you. grow an ego.
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>>7636706
kill yourself mira

tao sucked all potential shilling power out of /lit/, you can't just copy him
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>>7636706
>yall

Crawl under your semen encrusted bedspread Mira
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>>7636706
>oh, so today i got a facial, and one of the creams she rubbed all over my face smelled exactly what i remember crack smoke smelling like

Fuck me, this is just embarrassing
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how awful to have one's face pushed so far into the asshole of one's miseries that one is incapable of doing anything but pushing it further in
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>>7636971
I know you think you are being profound, but do you ever reread the shit you post Mira?
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I was at a agent's website that was bragging that she was one of her clients. Don't know much about her besides that she's a poet. All the other clients on the site were romance novel writers and nonfiction.
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>>7637031
rereading is just one of the reasons why you'll never be published
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"I will spend hours on one sentence sometimes"

—Mira Gonzalez, 2014
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>>7637050
Try writing a query letter sometime. You'll spend weeks on a sentence.
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>>7637071
Have you seen the trash Mira writes?
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>>7636971
LOL
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>>7637048
Check out Hypersphere, my work's in there. I don't need my name on it to fufill my desperate need for attention though
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let's assume for one sec that i'm friends with mira "irl" and i can vouch for her being a chill person

what can i do here to convince you ?
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>>7634417

Having standards isn't the same as naïveté. Fucking human scum really doesn't lend you the authority, knowledge or respect you seem to believe it does.
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>>7637103
>published
>Hypersphere

well i suppose we all have to start somewhere
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>>7637105
Honestly, probably nothing.
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>>7637105
Does she smell crusty?
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>>7637105
Being a "chill" person has nothing to do with her shit writing.
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>>7637105
Probably absolutely nothing. I don't care either way. I would never call what I've read of her work good, but I've only ever seen it posted here. But anyway, this is /lit/. Impotent nerd rage is the entire raison d'être of the posters here.
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>>7637116
We've already established that, we don't need Dave's opinion.
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>>7637112
Would sucking Tao Lin's cock help?
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>>7637113
seems depressing

>>7637116
define "crusty". idk.

>>7637119
i think her writing is v. good. i think this forum thrives on ridiculing people. not sure why. she is an intelligent person i feel.
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>>7636728

>turns out there are a lot of tutorials for making bread out of your own vaginal yeast, but none for making vagina shaped bread
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>>7637105
tell her to go back in time and publish her work using a male pseudonym
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>>7637135
? ? ?
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>>7637127
>i feel
dude just go back to doing xanax and fighting capitalism or whatever the cool kids do these days
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>>7637127

You really think it isn't the least bit trite?

Young ennui-sufferer doing drugs and casual sex, ring any bells?
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>>7637127
>define "crusty". idk.
Stale cum
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>>7637140
i don't take xanax haha
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>>7637127
Dave, this isn't a good poem.


last night i cried for no discernible reason
in an apartment that doesn’t belong to me
in front of a person who also doesn’t belong to me
(because people can’t own other people)

i say that i don’t like owning things
but i’m not sure if that’s entirely accurate

i used to only cry alone
i have cried more in front of people in the last 6 months
than in the last 5 years of my life combined
probably…

crying seems funny, to me

i am on a very crowded train
passing grand central station
it is 9:01AM and i am officially late for work

i am late for work because i slept 15 minutes past my alarm
then i had sex
then i stopped for coffee

i am late to work every day
when you’re an intern nobody cares what you do

the main thing I am learning at my internship
is how to look busy when i’m not doing anything
also, i am very good at making photocopies now
and putting labels on things

today i got an email from a woman in human resources
she was upset because i haven’t gone to any of the ‘intern events’
because the ‘intern events’ count as your lunch break
and i want to eat lunch alone
i have become very good at avoiding other interns

at 5pm i will take a crowded train to my second job
at my second job i have learned how to answer phones
and transfer calls to the appropriate extensions
and smile at people
and bring people coffee
and call the car service
and process fed ex packages

today my brother emailed me while having a good drug experience
i want to have fun when i take drugs
but it’s difficult, sometimes

also, i want to lose 20 pounds
but i think that is an unrealistic goal
considering i don’t exercise
and my diet is terrible
and i am unmotivated

i think i would like to go to mexico and just hang out for a while
my dad says I have 50 cousins in mexico but i have never met them

would they let me leave work early
if i got hit by a car but wasn’t seriously injured
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>>7637142
i feel as a young person who struggles w. existence she writes well about her struggles and about feelings of ennui, self-loathing and others that many people relate to. maybe when she is 40 she will write about the workplace, marriage and other things people judge as being mature or whatever.
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>>7637127
She's the disillusioned John Green demographic
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>>7637143
what's "cum" ?
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>>7637145
why do you call it a poem
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>>7637154
What you also smell like I imagine
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>>7637163
sorry i'm in the airport rushing to board a flight right now. i don't know what you mean.
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>>7637162
She called it a poem, I just googled 'Mira Gonzalez poetry' to get an example of her writing. It's shit, she just lists stuff she did.
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>>7637162
because it is
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>>7637168
so much depends
upon

a red wheel
barrow

glazed with rain
water

beside the white
chickens.

B R A V O N O L A N
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>>7637167
Cyclical
Umbarto
Machinations
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>>7637168
i cant rly take your opinions seriously if you cant even analyse what genre someone is writing in
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>>7637182
Ok don't then. I'm sure your conclusion will be the same either way.
It's shit writing no matter what you call it.
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>>7637182
Tao Lin is a rapist Mira, why do you defend him?
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>>7637145
hahahahahahahhahahahahahahaahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaa
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>>7637145
Everything I've read of hers instantly makes me cringe.
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>>7637190
no i dont think its a poem proper. its prose in all but form
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>>7637214
>what is free verse
>what is bukowski
>what is carver
>what is sexton
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>>7637225
>Implying the Alt Lit movement knows any of those things
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>>7637225
how dare you even write those names with your filthy hands
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Started drinking at twelve
or was it twelve o' one
and I roll up into work
and I'm not dressed correctly.

Started drinking at two
or was it two o' one
I roll up to my brothers
and he's nearly killed himself.

And I dream this, at least

I start my new job tomorrow
and it's not going well
the interview panned out
because my vagina has
a smell because I
didn't wash.

I no longer cry
I try and every night
it's the walls
and the floorboards
and the
why why why.

I undress
to the text messages
of forty lovers
and drink.

And the world ends.

And I start work tomorrow
I start at two 'o one.

Because it's prose
and poetry the same
and all my skill has gone.
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>>7637237
_thats_ an awful poem. now compare and try to learn something
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>>7637237
That's at least better than the first one. Still not good. I've seen better in the poetry threads here, and that's saying a lot.
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>>7637237
this is really inspired and original
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>>7637050
>she/he can't relate because she/he doesn't write
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>>7637237
i love this, where can i find more?
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>>7637237
I call this one Krusty The Klown
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>>7637258
>missing the point entirely

Nothing Mira writes could possibly take hours unless she has legit brain damage.
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>>7637150

I think it is extremely boring. It's not the lack of maturity, but the fact that it's cliché after cliché.
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>>7637265
it's cliché to call something a cliché tho
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>>7637263
Have you read anything besides her twitter account? She crafts her sentences so they are as minimalist as possible. so finding out how to make a sentence shorter and make sense can be a challenge.
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>>7637270
It's almost like that's the object of poetry
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>>7637270
>She crafts her sentences so they are as minimalist as possible. so finding out how to make a sentence shorter and make sense can be a challenge.


MIDF please. Her writing is horrible even for something minimalist.
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>>7637270
>crafts
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i personally think the mark of a great reader is how he treats bad writing
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>>7637290
You think Nabakov wouldn't tear her work a new one? You're deluded
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>>7637270
Me Mira.
Mira like drugs.
Mira like drink.
Mira like sex.
Me smart.
Me good writer.

What fucking craft.
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>>7637299
why the hell would he care? he wasn't some resentful failed neet
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>>7637310
>why the hell would he care?

Nobokav constantly shit on other writers.
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>>7637310

Nabakov famously put down other writers he felt were undeserving

Why do you care so much Mira, why do you care what resentful failed neets think of you 'work'?
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>>7633859
wow this is maybe the worst thing i've read all week and i work at a magazine that publishes the worst poetry undergrads can come up with
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>>7634381

i thought "The Human War" by Noah Cicero was pretty good.

almost all the other alt lit i've read has been bad. i really don't like Sam Pink or Blake Butler or Marie Calloway or Megan Boyle.
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>>7637105

are you david fishkind?
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somebody let Dave Fishkind (the guy who is the friend of mira's talking on here) that he's pretty good, he'll probably get recognized at some point, but not if he keeps shilling shit like mira and tao's poetry, the tao craze is over and mira's never started and never will. dave do yourself a favor and distance yourself from these toxic writers and save your career while you have a chance before you guys just end up a shittier version of the beats who hang out in whole foods
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>>7637346
I remember him being in this kind of thread a few months ago
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>>7637346
david tweeted about flying to Massachusetts i think so its definitely him
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plus david started that David Fishkind general thread a few weeks ago and got called out so hard for being so conspicuous and deleted it
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David will you serialize my novel in logue?
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>>7637364
this guy sounds like fun
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>>7637372
Based on his twitter he's the definition of a pseud.
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Thanks for confirming for us, Dave. So hey - did Bebe Zeva really invent 'lifers'? And hey - what's with alt lit men and preying on teenagers? Are you all developmentally arrested, no rude?
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>>7637379
>what's with alt lit men and preying on teenagers?

Alt-lit writers are mentally teenagers so it makes sense for them to look for partners on the same intellectual level.
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>>7637379
Was replying to: >>7637359
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yo Dave Fish! gimmie a link to your boy Zachary's 'Thank You', thanks in advance

:')
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This thread is now a David Fishkind AMA

(not David but I'm speaking for him)
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>>7637388
yeah i'm not dave i'm

>>7637390
>>7637364
>>7637370
>>7637359


but i follow him on twitter, pretty good account until he starts talking about the music he listened to over the weekend and its like beirut or something
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>>7637393
What's your opinion on the Israel-Palestine conflict, Dave?
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>>7637403
nuke Izzy

t. Fish
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>>7637145
please tell me this isn't real
or, more specifically, tell me this hasn't been published or paid for
i'm really not sure i can go on if it has
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>>7637420
It's easy to get garbage like that published when your parents are rich and famous.
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>>7637420
http://thequietus.com/articles/13277-two-poems-mira-gonzalez
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do you think Mira smells worse than Molly Soda?
also is the guy who claimed to be Molly's bf still around?
and why do we have so many of these alt lit DUDE DRUGS IN NY LMAO people shilling on this board?
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>>7637513
Damn that bitch has more armpit hair than most dudes.
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>>7637513
I'm getting a headache just looking at this photo
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>>7632495
>>7637513
where is this foul scent coming from? i hadn't smelled it before opening this thread?
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>>7637513
> smelly armpit hair
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Have you guys never met a girl before? Hygiene is like their top prioriity, expecially for an outgoihg person like Machine Gun Mira G
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>>7637621
>implying she stops eating drugs and looking at the Internet long enough to properly wash white guy piss out of her hair
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>>7637325
you're fucking stupid
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who are her parents? they must work in publishing or something
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>>7632495
yes i have read a few of her poems,and i must say they are pretty shit.you have to wonder if she is intoxicated whenever she writes poems,most of the times it is nonsensical garbage discussing petty topics
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>>7633783
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>>7637872
nice
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Selected Tweets.mobi
https://u.pomf.is/onfvjc.mobi

Just so you don't make the mistake of shelling out cash for that pile of crap.
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>>7638128
Is this even worth a glance?
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>>7638133
No idea, I just downloaded it but haven't even taken a look inside. Don't plan on doing it either.
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>>7637263

She's a benzodiazepine addict, brain damage is inevitable.

Doctors advise you never exceed 14 days of use because it absolutely annihilates cognition with permanent damage.
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GET READY FOR THIS HARD-HITTING JOURNALISM THATS RIGHT FOLKS MIRA COMIN AT YOU WITH THIS DOPE FUCKING ASS ARTICLE

https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/non-witch-martha-stewart-attends-annual-witch-convention-in-bushwick
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>>7638185
Do you have a source on that? Sounds a bit far-fetched to me. I mean aren't people prescribed them for daily use?
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>>7638276
it may be true that some people get scripts for daily use but this is only because most psychiatrists have no problem shilling for big pharma and prescribing dangerous and addictive drugs that can permanently scar your brain
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Mira is a beautiful princess who has more published than the entire board.
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>>7634052
Mist
Moist
Earth
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>>7638318
I'm familiar with the potential dangers but where did you get the 14 day figure from?
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>>7637355
DIDF pls go
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>>7638265
Next time, try posting a version of the link that doesn't confirm you're Mira or in some way affiliated with the website, shill.

https://archive.is/YV8fG
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>>7638343
past tense needed
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>>7638185
>>7638265
>>7638318
WOW
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>>7634202
He will be tricked into fucking Pepe's brains, killing Pepe, thinking it is an anus.
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>>7638426
14 days is bullshit, it takes years.
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>>7637310
Are you fucking stupid?
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>>7637513
being on 4chan is in some way considered cool because of this site's "troubled" history. It's like kids who wear nazi armbands. Just remember that these people are REALLY fucking stupid
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>>7638185
You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>7637299
I'd like to tear her a new one if you know what I mean *wink wink nudge nudge*
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>>7637513
nyc is the most boring place you will ever be in life, these kids are lame as shit
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>>7637317
I also wouldn't mind shitting on mira <3
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>>7639408
I lived in NYC for about a year and three-quarters off of family support.

Never managed to find steady work, but I wouldn't trade the experience for anything. I wish I could have found a job and stayed.
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So winters coming up /mu/
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>>7633783
My god this is awful

What a spoiled teenager
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Where are the feet pics in this thread desu
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>>7634401
>i do think at some point a text can become important just by being famous/well endorsed enough simply because people will reference it and it'll be a piece of contemporary literature.

That's what Nabokov did except he had a non-zero amount of talent
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>>7637105
tell her to have some kind of live-streamed interracial bestial really abhorrently disgraceful orgy with other Vice writers and their pets
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>>7632495
fuck off mira, stop posting threads about yourself.
You're a shit writer, only known for fucking Tao Lin.
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>>7639416
What was so good about it, may I ask.

What's happening culturally in 2016 is happening online. NYC is redundant. Also, it has been in an era of cultural decadence for decades. NYC scene = 2deep4u hipster shit that hardly anyone cares about now, and zero people will care about in the future
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>>7633268
You sure? It tastes great, but i'm sure that presumption goes down a bit smoother - let me know.
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>>7639432
lol
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What is Marie Calloway doing these days?
She is my favourite young American writer
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>>7640030
bitter poor fag who can't afford to live in NY detected

stay salty pleb
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>>7640504
YES, I'd rather have a higher standard of living. But has nothing to do with economics. Would eschew the most luxurious space on 5th avenue for a quiet suburban dwelling.
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>>7640601
>suburban
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NYC is a normalfag meme. I lived there as well. I grew up close to the city but in the burbs. If you are not a very social normalfag/richfag, u will not have that much fun. Like one poster said, the 'contemporary art scene' is really just a bunch of feminist-postmodernist-poststrucuralist 2deep4u lookatmeiwenttoafancyprivatecollege

Its lame, stale. Nyc hasn't produced visionary art in a long time. It is an overcrowded, smelly, yet extremely wealthy and competitive place. There are large amounts of homeless, and robberies against the bourgeouis outsiders happens often. I think its funny when some brooklynite, who actually grew up in Michigan or some shit and has a trust fund and moved to Williamsburg after college, gets robbed by a jolly african american duo from the hood in Bedstuy. Not to be edgy but they rlly are asking for it. But they dont have the NY street smarts to figure it out.
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>>7640030
>online
Nerd.
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>>7640632
This. Why people would want to leave in a large shitfest manifestation of the rat race instead of a comfy medium sized/small city or town is beyond me.
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>>7639416
>off of family support
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>>7640955
I find cities comfy as shit.
The rain pouring down on the top of your apartment building. You look out your fifth story window to see it raining all over the people, packed like little canned fruits on the streets, and the fog from the morning is still covering the tops of some buildings. A siren goes off in the distance, painting an abstract mosaic of city noises.
You curl up in your chair next to the window and read about a guy in New York. I'm getting cozy just thinking about it.
Plus you're always close to something.
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>>7641031
move to africa
ghana is just like that but with blacks and old white men
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>>7641031
Doesn't being shoulder to shoulder with thousands of people all day every day make you sick? The only privacy you will ever get is in your claustrophobic apartment.
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>>7641161
exactly. Current house is too small now to the point I have to house a lot of books elsewhere and barely have any room to get my work done, let alone actually start advancing anything greater.
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>>7641161
No. If I want privacy I stay just stay home. I generally don't because I accept people as a part of the city experience. Interaction with a smart and successful individual that you met randomly while waiting in line for something, or sitting at a coffee shop, can be some of the most enlightening of your life. Conversations with dull suburbanites are generally less stimulating.
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>>7641218
I guess if that's what you're into. I've lived in a few big cities and a few rural areas and people in the cities don't seem any more interesting or intelligent than people outside of the cities.
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>>7641235
Well it's hit or miss no matter where you go, just a higher concentration of people coupled with higher rent prices that poories can't afford generally leads to a more intelligent populace. But not always, which is why we come here. :^)
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>>7641257
When I lived in Seattle/San Francisco it seemed the majority of people were just fighting to survive and anyone I talked to just blathered on about their job which I never found to be intellectually stimulating.
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