>dfw if one accepts the metaphysical notion of language being able to denote specific objects, if we take this for granted then under the conditions of our language game This could be construed to be Water
personally i liked it a lot because it helped me navigate my struggles with addiction and also the conflict between sincerity and irony that seems to be such a large part of being a thinking person in the world today
plus the plots are cool and there's lots of half-to-3/4-funny parts and his names and ways of describing characters are really good and some of the technology he predicts is pretty funny and accurate, etc etc
also arguably 'the novel of our generation' (dare you to find me another one)
you'll spend realistically 24-36 hours reading it, think of how many hours in the last month you've spent on this shitty Cambodian claymation image-sharing board c'mon do it bro
it took me 3 months to finish (reading & finishing other books alongside it) was worth it, I guess. but to change it into a DFW appreciation thread.. >master of the doubled edged sword of post irony >gives commencement speech, mentioning suicide and trying to sell positive thinking >kills himself after promising wife repeatedly not to kek
>>7619334 Reading it right now and so far is shit. I don't know if you should read it, but to be honest this futuristic bullshit ain't my deal. Spare me the bullshit and give me some good characters and plot!
>>7626620 The Literature returns. Join me in destroying the parasite Pynchwallonace, slaying the beast. No more blood fed to these overfat ticks, these snake oil hucksters, The Worldly Shut-In and The Sincere Academic Kamikaze will cause suffering no more!
>>7626631 >read more of that insufferable shit! you'll like it, i swear! >reader stops at 200 pages >you stopped before it was getting good, faggot! >reader stops at 400 pages >you may as well finish it now, loser, who cares if it isnt good?
>>7626644 Quit getting so buttmad, Infinite Jest is like the Giver with its ham-handed themes but the author sprinkled some random words from a thesaurus like septuagenarian and disdyakis triacontahedron so people who wasted their youth in grad schools (like him) could scrawl footnotes on his footnotes in his book about junior tennis and Quebecois separatism (yawn). Oh it's OK he ties it all together by echoing Oprah that technology is addicting us.
That and the prose is clunky because of the lazy diction. Give me Pynchon any day of the week.
>>7626659 Pynchon is just as worthless. I can understand that you prefer one shit over another shit. Doesnt mean that they're not both utter shit. Offer me your favorite line from GR, say, and I'll offer you a line from one of my favorite novels. Ulysses. (a book that is actually worthwhile when being inventive and original)
Mr Bloom walked behind the eyeless feet, a flatcut suit of herringbone tweed. Poor young fellow! How on earth did he know that van was there? Must have felt it. See things in their foreheads perhaps. Kind of sense of volume. Weight. Would he feel it if something was removed? Feel a gap. Queer idea of Dublin he must have, tapping his way round by the stones. Could he walk in a beeline if he.hadn’t that cane? Bloodless pious face like a fellow going in to be a priest. Penrose! That was that chap’s name. Look at all the things they can learn to do. Read with their fingers. Tune pianos. Or we are surprised they have any brains. Why we think a deformed person or a hunchback clever if he says something we might say. Of course the other senses are more. Embroider. Plait baskets. People ought to help. Work basket I could buy Molly’s birthday. Hates sewing. Alight take an objection. Dark men they call them. Sense of smell must be stronger too. Smells on all sides bunched together. Each person too. Then the spring, the summer: smells. Tastes. They say you can’t taste wines with your eyes shut or a cold in the head. Also smoke in the dark they say get no pleasure. And with a woman, for instance. More shameless not seeing. That girl passing the Stewart institution, head in the air. Look at me. I have them all on. Must be strange not to see her. Kind of a form in his mind’s eye. The voice temperature when he touches her with fingers must almost see the lines, the curves. His hands on her hair, for instance. Say it was black for instance. Good. We call it black. Then passing over her white skin. Different feel perhaps. Feeling of white.
>>7627266 okay, that's your opinion that it's not an opinion, however, i can assure you, regardless of your provocative bias, it is most certainly an opinion to say that infinite jest is juvenile shit.
>>7626659 well to be honest it sounds like you missed the point of the whole seperatism angle... its not actually about Canada, its a metaphor for something deeper (seperation in general, and how it functions)... the mundane aspect of that is part of the point.
GR, IJ, and Ulysses are all very similar and anyone who likes anyone of those and dislikes another probably hasnt properly read them
>>7627349 if anyone needs to get off 4chan its you moron. 95% of people on this board, likely including you, do not proerply understand these books let alone have bothered trying to read them. They are the "meme trilogy" because of their difficulty and similar qualities they share, and because most peopel dont even bother reading them IF YOU WERENT A MORON AND DIDNT JUST BUY INTO MEME 4CHAN CYNICISM YOU WOULD KNOW THIS so its you who needs to read the books idiot. i already have.
>>7627397 4chan is a terrible place. really no one here is very smart. theyre just alternative lifestyle degnerates i realize. this gives a false sense of superiority without eve having to try to understand things.
>>7627415 the only thing dumb about me is my temper. i have little patience for stupidity because of sperg-like tendencies. in that way, i belong but i actually am capable of critical thought and reading comprehension which makes me feel alone even here
>>7623698 >not spending all your energy and brainpower to achieve maximum shitpost levels >not turning your brain off while you read the wikipedia plot summaries of all the books you pretend to have read
The more I read people on 4chan talk about Infinite Jest, the more I'm convinced to never ever read it. It's almost like the faggots on here read it only because it's the "cool thing to do". Half of these losers probably didn't even read it anyway.
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