It's literally a drawn-out sitcom episode except that it suggests it's better than one because it's aware of itself (even though sitcoms break the fourth wall all the time.) There is no depth, the themes it covers have all been covered countless times before, the prose is terrible, and Franzen is a terrible person.
>>7618392 People mostly hate Franzen himself, not his work. he is everything a writer shouldn't be: fame seeking and posterity obsessed. His awful treatment of Oprah didn't do him any favors, she was a boom to publishing and her heart was in the right place.
/lit/ hates him because he doesn't deserve his stature and is a suburban middlebrow writer who champions domestic/conventional realism as the only true type of literature.
>shit talks Frederick Barthelme >shit talks realism because his pomo garbage didn't sell >writes fake tv-script realism to appeal to retards >"i write 8 hours a day 7 days a week and my voice gets hoarse because i say all my dialogue aloud"
he's a pretentious fuck who doesn't care about anyone but himself. just like so many postmodern wonderboys, he has no interest in a literary tradition or community.
>faggots ripping Franzen for his Mr. Difficult essay because they're fans of Gaddis >faggots don't realize Franzen is a much bigger fan of Gaddis than they are >they never finished the article and realize it ends on a note with a compromise between the two models (art for arts sake and create for the consumer)
>>7618792 i don't know how much of it is true, but it does seem quite odious and poor manners to say or imply: "Ms Winfrey has abysmal taste, and to associate with her would be the death of the literary tradition and my standing in it" instead of just saying "no, thank you." If this is how he behaves then Franzen is a sperg and autist, regardless of his writing.
His material sounds like it was written by a eunuch. A woman could have reasonably written his drivel. There's no heart, no balls, no brain and a writer needs to have at least one of these things guiding the pen. I can't imagine sex with him being remotely satisfying.
Wait what? I picked the book because it was recommended by /lit/ and seemed to be well liked at the time here, but that was back in 2012-2013 I can't remember, so maybe the userbase has changed his opinion or there's a vocal part that dislikes him.
Also, I haven't read everything by him or about him but I did like this one for example: http://booth.butler.edu/2015/02/13/a-conversation-with-jonathan-franzen/
>>7620202 Franzen seems very confident and comfortable with his stature as one of America's "serious" social novelists, so when he doesn't act under the unwritten obligation of having to be as modest as possible about it, people just jump to the conclusion that he's just a douchebag. Most people who try to downplay his success are crybabies who can't handle a little banter, and haven't actually read any of his work.
>>7621330 Oprah's a big girl anon, she doesn't need you defending her. Franzen can say what he wants to about her, he's not an amateur. Hes earned his status.
And besides, what the fuck has Oprah ever done for literature anyway? Mass produce stickers so soccer moms can identify what books to read in some futile attempt to appeal to an authority, or to feel a part of a book club that doesn't even know they exist? Fuck Oprah
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