>>7617311 No, they aren't. He's in the bottom tier of American writers. Also, I've noticed the anti-American posters always have pleb taste, pretty sad tbqh but at least this one seems to speak english
>>7617575 for me steinbeck wrote an epic or two, some novels, a bunch of short novels, and some fantastic travel writing. there's a broad selection to be read even if you tire of the ulterior motives in his fiction
I enjoy his prose, setting, and characters. Never had an author capture the essence and atmosphere of the 20th century like him.
Praises aside, I can only take so much of Steinbeck. The monotonous torture he puts his characters through gets to me after a while, to the point of frustration.
Maybe its because my first introduction to him was The Red Pony as a child and it scarred me more than Where the Red Fern Grows. Then Of Mice and Men through English classes in Middle School was my next exposure to him, again depressing.
The next time we were out of electricity for 3 weeks post-hurricane, so I went rummaging in the attic because of roof damage, found a box of undamaged books which had Grapes of Wrath in it. Read it in 3 days because nothing else to do, and felt unfulfilled and depressed.
Never read his books if you're feeling melancholy.
>>7617602 >Like someone else said, better than Hemmingway. topkek, no he isn't. Hemingway could at least write great prose poems like The Old Man and The Sea. Not to mention that half of Steinbeck's stylistic come from Hemingway
>>7617621 >wasn't a mutation from sherwood anderson The response that every undergraduate spews, surprised you didn't mention Stein. If you can't see why it was specifically Hemingway who influenced Faulkner, Steinbeck, etc, you're blind >hemingway's best works are his nonfiction and his journalism My sides, not even close. >steinbeck's best fiction is eons better Steinbeck hasn't written anything of lasting value. Hemingway's self-insert hunting story worth more than Steinbeck's bibliography. Steinbeck is one of the worst writers we've ever produced. Even Wilson couldn't stomach his shit.
>>7617634 >if you knew this, you would know why the grapes of wrath is mastery Everyone knows Orwell wrote nonfiction, what is your point? Can you actually point to anything good in Steinbeck's work or will you continue to hide behind these vague phrases?
>>7617663 >grapes of wrath and east of eden are legitimate masterpieces No, they aren't. The characters never feel alive, they're walking cliches. The prose is unoriginal faux biblical shit. >gertrude stein > hem and sherwood and steinbeck Kek only the literature board is this bad. Go to any other hobbies or interests board and the users will generally know a thing or two and be able to guide you. Come here and you get simpletons who think Gertrude Stein is worth reading
>>7617300 >No-one has actually rated his works yet.
I'll start: 1. Grapes of Wrath - Most politically/socially relevant, and has the humanism that makes Steinbeck great. 2. Of Mice and Men - Taught in high-schools for a reason. Accessible, emotional, and gives an insight into the socio-economic plight of others that even 14 year olds can empathise with. 3 - To a God Unknown - My personal favourite. One of his earlier works, it's like a Paganist gothic novel. Would make a great Paul Thomas Anderson film. 4 - In Dubious Battle - A fun novel about political manipulation. Very similar to Grapes of Wrath, but looks at a political vanguard rather than an every-man family. Good, but too ideological and pessimistic to have broad appeal, and not as good as the above two in the same setting. 5 - East of Eden - His most ambitious, but I feel like he was trying too hard. Tried to consciously be the great Californian novel, and only half got there.
After this point I feel like his other work is just average or fairly good. 6 - Cannery Row / Sweet Thursday - Biographical humanism. Gets fairly boring. 7 - The Moon is Down - Too much of a parable to say anything worthwhile. 8 - Travels with Charley - Enjoyable but unremarkable. 9 - The Pearl - First two thirds are good, but fails at the end. Like watching a gymast break his ankle on landing after a really good routine.
autobiographical stein, poetic stein, or hermetic stein?
alice b. toklas/everybody's autobiography, wars i have seen, and the winner loses are my favorite of her nonfiction writings; four saints and geography and plays are my favorites of her 'out there' work
All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.
This is a 4chan archive - all of the shown content originated from that site. This means that 4Archive shows their content, archived. If you need information for a Poster - contact them.
If a post contains personal/copyrighted/illegal content, then use the post's [Report] link! If a post is not removed within 24h contact me at firstname.lastname@example.org with the post's information.