Is this a good book?

define 'good'
define 'book'

>>7610080
Is it worth my time? Is it illuminating? Will it enrich my life?

>>7610082
No

>>7610082
Yes

>>7610087
>>7610089
Why or why not? [10 pts]

>>7610098
reading black authors should be grounds for capital punishment

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>>7610082
No. But this will.

>Is it worth my time?
subjective
>Is it illuminating?
depends on what you already know
>Will it enrich my life?
subjective + depends on what you already know

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>>7610102
Zadie counts as 'White' right?

>>7610118
Reading women authors should be ground for capital punishment

>>7610118
White bones, black skin. That sprinkling of freckles around the eyes. Hnnnnng.

WE

DUDE BLACK BODIES BAKA

probably not

If you agree with the brand of progressivism that's trendy at the moment, you'll probably enjoy it.

>Endorsed by Toni Morrison
Why can't she be dead yet

>>7610564
I don't, actually. It has pushed me over the edge into renouncing the left altogether desu senpai baka.

takimag.com/article/the_first_rule_of_white_club_steve_sailer/

i do kind of want to read it just because of the reaction its gotten. every essay/article i've read of coates' has been exceptionally unimpressive at best.

>>7610669
don't renounce the left, just SJW/PC/multicultural/etc-ism. socialism is still right.

>>7610693
Well unfortunately this brand of leftism (or left liberalism, really) is the only popularly relevant motion going on the left right now. As well, I feel that the popularity this strain of thought has among the left (I have seen anarchists even praising blacklivesmatter and etc) betrays the fundamental decadence and cowardice of leftism generally. Nietzsche was correct entirely in this regard and so i go with no ideological home.

>>7610693
I.e. national socialism

>>7610688
this article is funny.

I read it, it wasn't very good but it didn't take long to read and his prose can be good at times. I think it's worth reading just so you understand his views (which will be co-opted by many others). Plus you can pirate the ebook

being "SJW" may be trendy but being politically woke is a good thing

>>7610669
Then don't read it. You can find the same arguments presented in more concise ways. That strain of the left has done a great job standardizing their thought, so you can pick up on their arguments pretty easily.

>>7610693
SJWism is the logical conclusion of leftism.

>>7611022
>woke
Is this the black version of redpilled?

>>7611136
socialism is an economic system; SJW is an identity politics that ignores the systematic processes of economics in favor of superficial aspects like wages

>>7610082
The only reason to read it is to contemporary Western leftism. The ideas themselves are retarded (IMO), but TNC's book will give you as coherent an explication of them as you're likely to find. If you don't care about that, don't read it.

>>7610693
SJWism is only the removal of unprincipled exceptions to progressive doctrine. Lawrence Auster was right.

>>7610735
Steve Sailer is a good writer.

>>7611115
I sort of agree with this, but the book puts them all in one place if you don't feel like trolling through tons of shitty blogs and opinion columns, plus if you often get into political discussions being able to refer to a book by a specific author is better than "well I read a blog post about this somewhere".

>>7611022
WHO WOKE
SMASH DAT LIKE

>>7611210
>if you don't feel like trolling through tons of shitty blogs and opinion columns, plus if you often get into political discussions being able to refer to a book by a specific author is better than "well I read a blog post about this somewhere".
Fair enough. As the popular author, his "lived experience" will be immediately relevant to the conversation. Their ideology isn't particularly deep, so you can gret the gist of it by reading a few articles and obnoxious tweets.

>>7611136
It's the logical conclusion of a left that has become cynical about the prospect of capitalism ending anytime soon.

"not killin' whitey was a mistake" - ta-nehisi coates

>>7611374
>Their ideology isn't particularly deep, so you can gret the gist of it by reading a few articles and obnoxious tweets.

As someone who has read all of Coates' articles and blog posts from the past 5 years, this is completely true

>>7611424
The same is true for all those I've read who are involved these identity politics, but I suppose depth isnt and shouldn't be the goal of activism.

I have never read Cornell West, and I've given him the benefit of the doubt for quite some time.

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>>7611022
who #woke here?
#truehistory
#theydon'tteachthisinschool

i doubt anyone on this board has read the book

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>>7611513

I'm definitely not going to. I don't want my royalties going to a man who literally thinks he should receive money for being black.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/

The level of entitlement is almost impressive.

>>7611513
It's like 200 pages, do you even read nigga. You doubt my ability to put off actually important things

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>>7611510

>>7610104
>>7610104
had me until the i ching

>>7611424
Has his grammar usage/spelling got any better?

>>7611661
grammar and spelling are racist contructs

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>this buffoon actually (actually) won a MacArthur Fellowship

>>7610068
this is the dude that said he'd never heard of Augustine. not never read him, but never even heard of him. Embarrassing

>>7611621
the I Ching is great lad

>>7613474
he dropped out of an "historically black college", he's not an intelligent man

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>>7613425
junot diaz has also received one

>>7613474
why would he care about the white man's history, anon?

>>7613474
i wonder if he got ahead through giving the bbc to various jewish editors, like that idiotic illegal immigrant who worked at the washington post despite not having a work authorization, that guy was a fag who bottomed his philipino ass all the way to the WaPo, maybe Coates did the same BBC style, i mean i know he has kids now, but the dude is ugly as fuck despite having dsl lips, i'm sure he fagged it up before he got enough money to pull a wife

>>7613480
Junot Diaz is the WOAT

>>7613480

I think the foundation has a quota for shitty liberal activist hack authors

did any one hear the this american life interview with him? it isn't about social justice or being black or anything, but he comes off as a tool. also, he claims black people came up with the term 'bourgie' [sp?].

>>7611621
>hasn't read the i ching

>>7613516

why the hell would anyone willingly subject themselves to that shit?

>mfw he's evidently named after an Egyptian pharaoh
>he campaigns for social justice

stupid ape can't even grasp how preposterously ironic this is

>>7613516
>'bourgie'

pretty sure bourgie is a black slang yeah (that doesn't mean coates isn't a jack ass) but when the fuck did you hear a white person say "bourgie" before the jews turned mtv into a black culture minstrel show?

>>7613482
because a black man should know the greatest african writer of all time

>>7613783
Coates btfo and confirmed hopeless pleb

>>7611661
His spelling is good throughout the book and I forget if I noticed any grammar mistakes. That said his style has been about the exact same for the past 18 months

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>>7610068
>Ta-Nehisi Coates
What the fuck kind of name is that?

>>7610068
No. The prose is an incoherent, rambling mess that fails to support any kind tension - it's very flat and uninteresting.

>>7610564
This is it.

This guy didn't know who St. Augustine was in an interview, which may be a somewhat small nitpick but come the fuck on. If you're going to style yourself a confessional man of letters, you'd do well to know who the ur-confessional man of letters is. It isn't Western hegemony to know that. As >>7610688 said, I've never been much impressed with any of his Atlantic articles.


I've been meaning to read this book, but it's been passing through my local library too quickly.

>>7610663
Toni Morrison is a fine author but she is insufferable to listen to voice-wise, I heard her interview with Terry Gross on the radio earlier and it's like this slinking, slithery voice.

>>7610489

nice

>>7613529
Yet another hilarious thing that Steve Sailer has pointed out is the transition from African-Americans identifying themselves metaphorically with the enslaved Hebrews (e.g., Go Down Moses) to literally identifying themselves with the pharaohs.

>Do you want to understand the literary roots of (left-wing) identity politics
Yes
>Do you want arguments that are highly effective in trolling people involved in (right-wing) identity politics
Yes
>Do you want workable solutions to today's problems
No

is he the new james baldwin?

>>7614763
Sailer is a half decent writer and an absolute shit tactician.

We tried his Sailer Strategy up here in Canada in the hopes the silent majority would get scared of mooslims and keep us conservatives in power. For every conservative vote we got we scared about four apathetic whites and disgruntled liberals into voting against us.

Turns out lots of whites are turned off by blatant identity-bating! Sailer can go soak his head.