>>7600842 Read an intro book to learn about meter, classic poem forms, rhyme and rhetorical techniques. Then read a poetry anthology to get a good taste of different movements and poets. Read more poetry.
>>7600882 >>7600965 I think you will appreciate, and therefore enjoy, the poetry more if you understand meter etc. You understand that the poet deliberately chose certain words and thought about what he was writing.
Of course I agree that nothing beats actually reading poems and thinking about them yourself.
>>7600987 The only thing you really need to know about metre at a basic level is to pay attention to which syllables are stressed and unstressed and that in english most shit is written in iambs.
Reading poets will help you understand rather than reading analysis. You'll get that shakespeare sounds like he is beating his wings and that milton is marching from reading them, not reading about them.
>>7600842 Start by reading some American love poems OP. Stuff like Cummings, Whitman, Dickinson. Hemingway and Frost too. Just start with the really well known ones like the ones I mentioned. They're well known for a reason.
Also, learning to recite poetry helped me out so much in both loving poetry and finding the meaning of a poem.
What kind of person are you? What interest you? If you're desperate to respect the feelings of others, explore confessionalism. Lets get real, it's easy to love Sylvia Plath. If you like being edgy and stoned, Allen Ginsberg is a fun read.
easy: reading and thinking about them yourself. and then the next day having your actually-a-poet poetry professor profess about the poem. spoon feeding you all the references you missed, all the interesting references the scholarly version you read missed, how such thing applies to your life, how other thing applied to his. and then the discussion groups and creative writing clubs.
>probably thinks he can tackle the waste land solitary and ignorant
>>7601426 badly phrased perhaps, "a shitty one" maybe more suitable. to answer your question, its perfectly logical; more value is derived from something accessible. also, a good work of art should, in my mind, connect with anyone, of course never on the same level, but it still should. i guess i'm just in opposition to his perspective on art, that being said this board shares his views and they are a necessity for my personal love of the place, although in the real world i wouldn't agree with this position, my apologies for breaking character
>>7602440 >says who? let's make it easy for us with some definitions; 1 person acquiring value = 1 value >again, nope, try again. stop just saying things and pretending it's right. how so? of course a literary work of art should not, could not (maybe even then via the visual aesthetics of symbols) connect with an illiterate, but i'm divided if i'd argue for that being a worthwhile connection. so you see, depending on your criteria of connection one could argue the position that finnegans wake is enjoyed by toddlers. i'm not saying it's universally "right" per se, just argueing my perspective on art, unlike you.
academic works of art are academics jerking each other and critics off, very little value in that, i'd say. rather than something to be loved and praised by all walks of life.
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