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what makes the greeks so great
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>>7578837
systemic eurocentricism

egyptians did it first and did it better
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>>7578837

When I read "History of the World" by Roberts he presented the theory that part of their inventiveness might have had to do with the fact that the geography of Greece made it likely that there would be tons of city-states that were connected by trade and travel to other city-states but that the land was too rugged for them to be united politically and under the same banner. Also because of the shitty soil you could only grow so much food from it so migration to Islands was inevitable.

Once you had dozens or hundreds of independent political structures who mostly spoke the same language and mostly had the same culture and were linked by regular trade you had a situation where ideas could spread really easily and because there were so many different city-states there were constantly new things happening and developments that each group reacted differently too. In that way it was a fertile ground for the exploration and exchange of ideas and concepts. Their Minoan heritage and trade with foreigners helped too.

It seemed like a good theory when I read it and I don't see why it wouldn't be.
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>>7578837
primacy
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>>7578837
The unique spiritual superiority of Aryan men
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>>7578840

This.
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>>7578840
>>7579413

What advancements in Philosophy, Logic, and Rhetoric did the Egyptians make, though? Or is the assumption all that was lost?
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>>7578840
History itself have this nasty habit of being Eurocentric
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>>7578966
This is racism. Black pharoahs did it first and better.

>>7579449
Wow racism. Literally everything was created by the black man but was stolen by the white man and claimed by him.
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>>7579488

At least try to be funny when you shitpost.
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>>7578966
Wish girls weren't afraid to have their titties out nowadays.
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>>7580133

tbhf I think it has more to do with how men would react rather then them not doing it because of fear
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>>7578966
Sounds somewhat like the causes of the Italian Renaissance.
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>>7578837

Humanity in toto has not changed in a genuinely (and pardon the office-jargon) "game-changing" way since the ancient world. We've done a bunch of cool incremental things (technology), but the basics of human existence haven't changed:

-we are born, live for a few decades on the outside, and then die. We bury or otherwise formally dispose of our dead in ceremonial fashions which have emotional and cultural importance for those living.
-we have both spoken and (often) written languages. We use our written language to create permanent narratives which can be reproduced.
-we are, as social animals, alternately obliged to cooperate and compete with each other, which goes some distance toward explaining how we have both empathy and war.
-we are (literally now, in the sense of the animal's capabilities, not fluffy language): imaginative, introspective, creative, and speculative, capable of abstract thought which we can express in the above narratives. These narratives frequently concern ourselves, and the ups and downs of our shared human experience as social animals (ethics, politics, etc).
-insert just one more true banality about how we all eat, piss, shit, and do /something/ with our free time: sculpt, paint, read, shitpost, etc.

Since all of this has been true all along, we can appreciate complex narratives from the ancient world as having tacked the resulting subjects "first". But of course one can argue over who actually did what first, we still suppose that someone /did do/ xyz first. The Greeks left a large body of narrative for us to work with, /on a sufficiently wide variety of subjects/, that the body of work continues to hold modern interest, and so the meme snowballed.

The Greeks were/are "great" /because we can still empathize with them, because basic and relatively complex features of our existence have not changed/. If someone gets biological immortality going or some other crazy sci-fi outcome which changes the above, then we will have less empathy and consequently less interest in the ancients.
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>>7579455
Only if you live in the West desu
You're sheltered as hell or American
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>>7579404
> The unique spiritual superiority of [Iranian] men

suddenly the greeks are persians
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>>7580156
they're afraid to get raped which is how a girl would react if she let me see her boobies
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>>7578840
Egypt was entirely different and if you dont understand why you need to take a history class.

Greeks gave us democracy, philosophy, systematic medicine...they were entirely different from Egypt, the two couldn't be farther apart.
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>>7578840
WE
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>>7578840
Do you hate freedom or something?
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Both greek and great start out with gr.
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>>7581601
good post
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They had fucking sweet names.
>Homer
>Sophocles
>Pynchon
>Aristophanes
>Plato
Sweet ass names.
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