This has to be the greatest book I've ever read.
I mean... It's literally "pretentious faggot hipster BTFO" the novel.
What do you think of this masterpiece?
I read JR a couple of months ago. Took a break and then dove into this for the new year and it is easily the greatest thing I've read. Only 200 pages in and don't want it to end.
Gaddis is GOAT.
That's an over simplistic way to put it. A more detailed reading would be that the transformation art had by the end of the XIX century had an impact not only in the perception of art itself but on the perception of people, so artists aren't only producers of art, but something else. So people surounding the world of art became self aware and glorified themselves above the work by internalizing what they thought they should become in order to be part of this world.
Ergo, pretentious pricks.
So are you saying that people are becoming artist only because they think it has certain glorifying qualities, rather than a desire to produce a work? Or is it some kind of "bad faith" where people adopt their societal role and vocation into their personalities like Sarte's waiter?
I think is the latter. Gaddis says originality is what transformed art in the XX century. Now artists want to be original instead of perfecting the skill (by imitation). That search for originality, which was caused by what happened to art when it seeked to remove technical boundaries is what transformed people and the world of art into what it is.
haven't posted in this thread yet (just a disclaimer so you dont get opinions mixed up)
do you disagree with the search for originality being a necessary developmnt in art? as society progresses, more and more people have access to leisurely activities (i.e. hobbies), wherefore it is more important to distinguish yourself from the massesand past artists (the second is where skill isn't a distinguishing factor)
I haven't read gaddis though
What's the reading level on this? I want to add it in my queue, but I structure my next reads by varying difficulty. Is it around the difficulty of around Pynchon or more like Faulker or what? Is the vocab and wordage more close to that of the early 1900s or beat-era or postmodernism?
Thanks in advance friends.
His sentences are very long for the first 100 pages or so and he dumps a bunch of religious allusions whenever Gwyon is a part of the story (which includes the beginning). But as far as it goes on a conceptual level, it's a very easy book to follow. Gaddis practically spells out the entire theme of the book in the first sentence, and repeats it over and over afterwards.
It really shows that it was a first novel in many respects, but it is a fun read and is excellent despite its many flaws.
I absolutely love the dialogue in Gaddis' novels. Just wrought with a perfect pitch and ear for actual conversations. I finished this monolith a month ago and it has really changed the way I hear people speak, along with their actions and intentions. Sincerely looking forward to reading the rest of his oeuvre
This is reassuring. I bought infinite jest last year, and it took more work to read than any other book I've read. So I've been wary of these post-modern tomes. The concept of JR sounds incredibly fun, but the book isn't even available on Amazon
>excellent despite its many flaws.
This is actually part of what I love about it. It just seems like he dares to put his heart out, and if it fails it fails, but so much of it is just perfect, so you can kinda see him fail on a very high level.