>>7564769 >OY VEY SHUT IT DOWN DID YOU WATCH THAT CNN """"""INTERVIEW""""""? WATCHING THEIR ANALYSIS WAS FUCKING PATHETIC, THEY WERE CLUTCHING AT STRAWS AND JUST STRAIGHT UP MAKING SHIT UP LIKE THE COWARD KIKES THEY ARE
>>7564949 The issue is when to apply it. The person I replied to applied it in a situation where it wasn't necessary. This is typical reactionary/liberal logic. They take some principle and apply it in its most extreme form even when it shouldn't be applied at all.
>>7564962 >Implying Hitler is bad But really, his whole speech, his gestures, they show a big resemblence to Hitler. I heard some rumours that he has a book of Hitlers speeches on his bedpost, so he is definitely learning from the master
>>7565007 >>7565146 >>7565164 I remember believing that Russia and China are stronger than the U.S. when I was 12. People who think that are always just salty about the U.S. being the strongest country in the world. I'm not even American.
everyone makes fun of trump but he is an ultra alpha that fucks hot chicks, is rich and does what he wants. the complete opposite of the modern sjw beta male hipster faggot. He is a master at manipulating the media and his polls just keep rising even though he says outrageous things.
He is like some sort of ancient Chinese monkey trickster god of chaos
>>7565191 1. Ignorant: Don't read 2. Propaganda: Do read, or you mean TV? 3. Guns: So? 4. Mass shootings: let's not be stupid. 5. Black: 13% 6. Capitalist: Yeah, state support for oil, finance, farming, &c is capitalist.
>>7565428 & we have belly cargo & Elon Musk & Hollywood & Miley Cyrus & Billy Ray Cyrus & Elvis's corpse & James Cameron & Do everything better than uros, nucks, and have all the pharmaceuticals, all your text messages, browsing history, dick pix, AND current location, give or take, like, 20 feet.
>>7564898 No. It's like watching Family Guy or a reality show. Well, that's what watching american politics is like in general, but Donald Trump is star, who says the most memes. The fact that 4chan finds it amusing isn't surprising considering the fact that memes are the paragon of humor here.
>>7565556 There was an article on it in the financial times over the summer when china had their military parade. They debuted their new missile during it. Military experts doubt the stated capabilities. I wonder how it filtered down to you?
>blaming the nations ills on outside problems to distract from real issues
Islamic terrorism is one of the central real issues of our time. His policy with regard to Islam is a key issue that he hammers every chance he gets. Also, his general claim that because countries like Canada benefit freely from a massive US military (paid for by US citizens), many are allowed to instead sink revenue into programs like national healthcare is also quite relevant.
>promotes class collaboration
Well in the US, your idea of progress is never going to happen any other way and this isnt just me speaking, ask Francis Fukuyama or even Zizek. the idea of hierarchy with no antagonism seems to be a big no-no since WWII and especially since the emergence of the New Left. But, you can have air conditioning, a refrigerator, a microwave, internet access, a washing machine, and a car and still be considered impoverished in the US. Berniefags think that if we get rid of all the yachts, limos and gold plated trim that things will drastically change in the US and it really isn't the case. The govt can give you healthcare (if it didnt spend so much on military) but it will never make you a director, or get you pussy. we have a perfectly fine lifestyle from top to bottom. If there were ever a society ready for class collaboration, it's the US this moment.
>has an extremely nationalist rhetoric
I agree, and that's why he's popular, and it's telling how awfully received he is by US allies. Nations that benefit greatly from a globalist, friendly US and pax Americana ought to be uncomfortable when Trump suggests that countries like Japan pay royalties for a US presence. The worst thing for US freeloading allies is that they have to stop sharing our military and build one of their own.
Trump is a nativist and a nationalist. Not a fascist. There is a difference.
Watching libs squirm after all the attacks in Europe during NYE; watching the apologizing after the media didn't even cover it; watching the victim blaming and advice to "microagress" for your own safety now coming from the people who most often cry about that shit; telling women they should stay with a man and cover up; pretending this is the price of morality; pretending these people didn't understand the culture, or are acting poorly because they have been "oppressed".
There is nothing here for anyone with western values anymore. The left is dead.
I will never be a right winger, but for now my hand is forced. I honestly really wonder how someone can pretend they respect women and still call themselves a liberal.
>>7567983 His key campaign promise is to nationalize foreign countries oil supply and distribute the profits to American veterans and force foreign countries (Mexico) to fund an American infrastructure project
Everything he wants is literally impossible or would result in a reworking of the world order. Trump would definitely collapse the American empire in the process, which is fitting since it has reached its most decadent stage.
I bought this in Portland the other day. It reads kind of like Rush Limbaugh's first two books. I was expecting more about negotiation tactics but I got a window into the daily life of Donald Trump. 5/10.
>>7568178 >criticism from someone who can only think one level deep.
You absolutely must be 16-22. The amount of retardation from people who don't understand how leadership works is always astounding. I'm sure you only respect politicians like ron paul and bernie who make "real promises".
>His key campaign promise is to nationalize foreign countries oil supply and distribute the profits to American veterans
This is a controversial characterization and certainly not a key campaign promise. Trump hasn't laid out any really specific plans to follow through with this (but has for several other issues), and has mostly discussed this policy in hindsight such as during the mid 2000's when the US had a major security presence in Iraq that could feasibly protect US oil companies. But if the US were to put boots on the ground in Syria and more boots back in Iraq, such a proposition would be complicated but doable, especially when the oil powers of the region can't even agree to decrease their supply to help combat low barrel prices. But as it stands with Russia in Syria, I highly doubt Trump would make any serious effort at meddling for some oil.
and force foreign countries (Mexico) to fund an American infrastructure project
US can call in plenty of legal and justified trade sanctions unless Mexico complies. Yeah, it seems big and scary but that's the point. Mexico can't stop its immigration problem, Trump will help them help themselves. Not outside the realm of possibility.
>Everything he wants is literally impossible or would result in a reworking of the world order. Trump would definitely collapse the American empire in the process.
It's not impossible. The US (being the world's lone super power) has situated itself to have incredible military and economic advantages and assets. Using these to benefit US geopolitical interests is a matter of keeping our military and trade allies happy, not a matter of possibility. The US would be the last to collapse because we have every resource we need right here, year around and the world largest military. And in twenty years, when Canada is a third world shithole and is not sending its best across the border, we'll build a wall up there, too.
On a more serious note: I read the first 80 or so pages and it's great! I don't know why,but I fund it amusing how he has the time to do so many things.Work,Family and meetings.
The way he got the casino in Vegas,amazing. He has a lot of experience with money. And he also treats social interactions well. This is what a persident needs. Be talkative Have some form of experience with "ruling" And be confident.
>>7568353 >It's not impossible. The US (being the world's lone super power) has situated itself to have incredible military and economic advantages and assets. Using these to benefit US geopolitical interests is a matter of keeping our military and trade allies happy, not a matter of possibility. The US would be the last to collapse because we have every resource we need right here, year around and the world largest military. And in twenty years, when Canada is a third world shithole and is not sending its best across the border, we'll build a wall up there, too.
The Soviet's had a massive amount of military might and were on an economic rebound when it collapsed in the early 90s. America could easily balkanize, it's no more crazy a notion than a total collapse of the Soviet empire would have been in the 70s. What/how a collapse would exactly look like I don't know but whoever the next president is could be the beginning of the end.
>>7568583 Nah, those missiles, first of all, aren't real. They're lying.
Second, a ballistic missile CANNOT be aimed after launch. It's going to hit a certain patch of water very fast. But Navy ships have excellent radar and even better, they can STEAM AWAY from the patch of water where the missile will land. It's easy to calculate such things.
I almost wish they would launch one, especially while I'm conning. Shit would be a fantastic sea story.
>>7569791 You have Geert Wilders and Le Pen. I wouldn't call them comedy candidates either, but they are no where near the will to power of Trump, and they are not doing anything nearly as epic, literally overthrowing the establishment through self-made wealth
>>7569786 >fox news fanbase is le stupid >mplying they just poll their viewers. That's not how these polls work. Read the opening of the study then go to page 11
>>7569809 >>7569726 Hillary Clinton is literally the reason why your continent is being flooded with Africans and Muslims. Libya was her idea as secretary of state. And now look: Ghaddfi predicted it all correctly, the wall that Libya once was has now fallen. What the fuck is wrong with you men? Do you have any blood left in your veins? Or do you want 1,000 more Cologne's until your homelands are nothing but smithereens and browns?
>>7569809 trump is probably less an ideological neoliberal than clinton. he'd even probably be more likely to prosecute bankers if another huge revelation of fraud came through thanks to a financial collapse, which over the next 8 years isn't unlikely. he's probably less likely to get into dumb wars too.
trump is definitely better than clinton. he has the added virtue of really pissing off sanctimonious middle and upper class liberals.
Clinton is 200% in league with wall street. I feel for the hard left, but you guys really have to make a choice here. When the moderate left and the moderate right work together they produce a fucking hideous neoliberal globalist dystopia and you're just gonna have to ally with the hard right if you want to stop it.
Daily reminder that Trump was against the Iraq war and wants to gtfo of the middle east after cutting off ISIS's oil reserves
Daily reminder you are fighting against an isolationist (as much as one can be in today's world) Republican in the classical sense of the term Republican whilst promoting the liberal capitalist democracy you all claim to hate
>but he's rich therefore muh fuck rich people Please read about his policies and watch some 1-1 interviews
>>7569856 does anyone really know how much trump inherited? it seems subject to some controversy. in any event you can't call him self-made. it's clear that he's a very active person who is driven to succeed and accomplish things, but what he would have been without a rich father is impossible to say.
>>7569865 most of the nationalist right is open to having strong social services and also have a populist streak, hate the cosmopolitan elites etc. a far left-far right alliance against the neoliberal centrists is just what we need.
>>7569893 >and he had a great starting point because of his father.
that's my point. he's not self made. he's good at what he does good for him, but if he didn't have a rich father like most people don't he might not have become anything exceptional at all. i like him fine and will vote for him but that's the facts.
>"Politics is evil and corrupt because of big money and special interests! >:( does not represent real people " -lib >Trump pays for campaign out of pocket. Taps into what people believe. Has made successful predictions about world events. Multiplied the wealth he started with more than any normal shitter could dream, and did so in a highly competitive corporate environment not resorting to any of the predatory modern business practices that he opposes. Has created wealth and jobs for others.
>"no, he inherited billions, anyone could do that with his starting point, I actually believe he believes he will build a wall, my GF was in Cologne and came back much more cultured we should open boarders. Every line on a map is violence, these people are escaping violence, We need Hilary to continue bombing the middle east otherwise the people wont migrate and then who will my wife select as a bull?" *bows head* simply epic. The American Lib.
>>7569928 If that was easy, how come all the millionaires who live literal miles away from me didn't all become billionaires? How come there are so few billionaires in the world? Do you even think?
>>7569930 Where have you been? Look up "cologne" or "hamburg rapes" or "Rottherham" or "sweden rape". How on God's green earth are these "isolated" cases when Cologne and Rottherham along with all the other sex predator webs in the other British cities were planned and systematized?
>>7569959 >If that was easy, how come all the millionaires who live literal miles away from me didn't all become billionaires? How come there are so few billionaires in the world? Do you even think? kek, your sentence
>he's pretty much as self made as anyone could be if they had a wealthy father
made me think you were trivialising trump's accomplishment, we're actually in agreement. just jumped in and started posting, apologies
>>7569930 Also talking about NYC where communist mayor deblasio is brining back 1980s levels of crime and homelessness, just check out the gang rape this weekend where five black youths assaulting a girl walking with her father and gang raped her at gunpoint while her father ran for help...then the dindoos want to blame the police for not responding fast enough, when they were forced to pull back from policing by comrade deblasio. don't let sanders deblasio whole the country.
>>7570075 I think if Trump wins some technologist in Silicon Valley will make a fortune selling drones to restaurants to do deliveries when all the delivery boys get deported. The drone economy is gonna be bigger than the internet!
The reason why 4chan loves Trump is because his campaign operates on the same principal as trolling.
He says something insanely offensive, but attaches it to a policy statement. His supporters only see the policy statement, and the media only sees the offensive part. The media then freaks the fuck out and gives trump a bunch of free publicity because they're fucking retards who don't understand that they took the bait.
The real problem with Trump is that he doesn't understand American power, and the policies he talks about are all hot air. They feel true but they're not.
Like, right now, we have a good thing going with China. They're entire country is our bitch. Millions slave away to make our useless crap while they pollute their country into a wasteland. And as a result we get $5 shirts.
Against all odds, Richard fucking Nixon made a communist power into our capitalist fuck toy.
But Trump wants to ruin it. Please Trump... go away and let the adults handle international relations.
>>7570114 I rocked my friends when I visited umich. Everyone loved them at frat day drinks/tailgates. When we went to the bars it was mixed as fuck. A ton of people loved it but every chick and black kid got so #triggered it cracked me up.
>>7570120 Exactly, god mode patricians know the American economy is rock solid as a black dick about to rape. The Chinese economy is falling apart like a cheap Chinese anything as we speak, India is poverty ridden slum of 1 billion that we import slaves occasionally to do the most boring technology jobs like help desk and java coding, the Islamic world is getting desperate and fanatical as they sense the oil economy slipping into history, Europe is a decent place, but constantly hobbled by socialism, Latin America is just a big drug lab to serve our cocaine, meth and weed needs...American Empire still in beast mode, bro. We could go for another 1000 years no sweat.
>>7570120 >4chan loves Trump is because his campaign operates on the same principal as trolling.
4chan loves Trump because it has become increasingly right wing over the years, and has always been the eternal antithesis of political correctness.
>Like, right now, we have a good thing going with China.
Like, right now, the US is sending young soldiers in the thousands to Japan, under wraps, because China keeps threatening to take the discovered oil in the South China sea. Like, right now, the US is testing military gear off the coast of California to the point where LAX had to close its coastal flights for one week. Like, today the US just flew a bomber next to North Korea for "testing" that bomb, and North Korea is practically fueled by China.
Just because "our" companies (I say "our" because they certainly don't act like they care about our countrymen) use cheap labor in China to sell it to Americans for cheaper, making them softer and weaker, doesn't imply the Chinese leaders aren't fucking us over, big time.
Richard "I read Nietzsche, fuck the kikes" Nixon surely dismantled Soviet influence over China, but a lot has happened since then, especially with its colonization of Africa bringing in more wealth and geopolitical influence
>>7570161 >Richard "I read Nietzsche, fuck the kikes" Nixon surely dismantled Soviet influence over China, but a lot has happened since then, especially with its colonization of Africa bringing in more wealth and geopolitical influence
Bro, Trump will be the best president since Nixon. Every plab hates The Nix, but ax a labor historian and that leftist shitlord will grudgingly admit Nixon was the last president to not gleefully and hipocritically shaft the working man.
>>7570161 Dude, have you seen what's happening in the Chinese stock market the last couple days? It's fucking 2008 over there. The was a time when we all thought the Japanese were going to crush us. Then they hit the limits of their shitty ass culture. Asians can't innovate for shit. All they can do is copy us. Who cares if they wanna make cheap knockoffs of Italian handbags, or embarrassing low end laptops for poors at state college?
>>7570120 Trump wont touch China anon, welcome to business. Believe it or not he is not a retard. He is telling the people what they want to hear and he will not change a single fucking thing with China.
China talk shit about America to their people as well, Both sides benefit in reality, and both sides give 0 fucks about plebs who like nationalist talks.
If you think China's 80 million in the communist party are all happy capitalists you are delusional. In reality what the people believe in unimportant.
Trump knows that, and the Chinese know that better than anyone.
>>7570176 Based anon. You know Trump's idea of the "silent majority" that he brings up at every rally is actually taken from a Nixon speech? He knows exactly what he's doing and being literary as fuck while doing it
>>7570196 I'm not saying China isn't facing huge problems -- we just need to further move the situation into our favor by pressuring our companies to come back here and employ the homeless with dat 15% corporate tax and dat low minimum wage.
>>7570161 What you say is true but selective. China has been acting too aggressive, and in the past 8 years the United States has slowly been building rapport with all the countries surrounding China. There is a reason they were excluded from the TPP but countries like Vietnam were welcomed.
China also has issues of its own, like rampant corruption and an overgrown bureaucracy.
Stop scare-mongering. Sure, China has increased influence in Africa. But who cares? They're just getting raw materials to build the shit they sell to the west.
America and China are like economic siamese twins at this point. It will never escalate to real military conflict. All the tests and bomber fly bys are just dick-waving.
If you think China actually backs North Korea you're an idiot. North Korea is a thorn in their ass. If their is a second Korean War, chances are it will be the Chinese installing a more favorable member of the Kim dynasty.
If the North Korea went to War with the US, China would step aside because the war would last maybe 8 hours tops. Some civilians would die in Seoul from old school artillery hits. You will go to sleep, wake up the next day, and Kim Jong Un will be dead in a bunker or on his way to the Hague.
>>7570231 >America and China are like economic siamese twins at this point. It will never escalate to real military conflict.
You say this now, in this climate, in this period of the world. But give it 50 years when water and women are more pressing matters than oil and the third world freaks the fuck out. Indonesia was just on fire this whole last summer and no one said anything about it. We're running out of water. I'm not trying to scare monger, but this bubble of chilling will not last forever and Trump has the right idea of propelling us into the 21st century with Self-Reliance as opposed to the imperialist bourgeois Bush-Clinton puppethouse
>>7570257 >propelling us into the twentieth century
Here's something to chew on: in 50 years, the Russian Federation will not exist. And yet Putin wants to build relations with Putin? Why? Russia has nothing to offer. The Chinese have more control over Siberia's resources than Russia does due to organized crime groups.
The US is already set for the future. We control the corn and the natural gas. And we have the best ways of filtering and cleaning water. Californians might have to stop watering their golf courses, but that's about it. (maybe that's Trump's secret motivation)
>>7570319 To bad Trump doesn't do sensible in real life, he refuses to play the stock market because in his opinion it's easy money, fucking releases his own brand of water, Vodka, ice cream and steak for shits and giggles.
>>7570369 Trumps masters degree is in business not finance, it would make no sense for him to start a hedge fund when his family business was real estate...so the fact that he doesn't fuck around with wall street bullshit shows that he is sensible.
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