Chart thread!

>>7526275
So after I read all these I'm an intellectual?

>>7526386
not really, it just introduces you to books that aren't within the sort of /lit/ aesthetic

>>7526398
Oh. Thanks :D

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>>7526398
I thought exit core was supposed to be suicide related.

Got a chinese chart?

>>7526707
It is. That faggot is totally clueless.

I wish /lit/ would stop embarrasing itself with charts like this. Please stop representing the board with this entry-level bro-tier garbage. You praise Nietzsche et al. yet use strawpolls to determine what "we" as a board like, allowing newfags and redditors to influence the decision. It's disgusting.

>>7526275
Stoner is by no means "exit-tier" for example. You have to be poorly read and have no frame of reference to think otherwise.

>>7526386
>>7526707
>>7527880
>>7527882
No one's ever been able to give a convincing explanation for what the "exit-level" chart is intending to communicate. Some people have said it's the books you read in order to be done with literature, but that's an inherently stupid idea. Others have said it's about suicide, but it's separate from the "depressing lit" guide and lots of the books don't concern suicide (The Leopard, The Street of Crocodiles, The Vision of Piers Plowman). As already mentioned in this thread, many of the works aren't obscure, either. It seems to be just a mishmash of someone's favorite stuff, given a provocative name.

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>>7527882
This desu. We should just read the meme trilogy over and over and over.

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>>7526300
Tell me about "brown pill"

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>>7526410
I don't get these inexistent books.

>>7528207
I've got a copy of The Enneads, and Odysseus Weeps at home. Not sure about the others. The Kafka one exists for sure.

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>>7528212
I would like to know where did you buy them, and also if they are any good.

is there a magical realism chart i need some pics

>>7528218
Enneads is easy to find on Amazon. Odysseus Weeps, I can't find on the web; it used to be available as a PDF on some pirate sites but it's gone now. I got my copy from an old bookstore in Devon.

>>7527880
sorry.

>>7526275
How to make a chart? I want to make a guide to Catholicism chart because the ones we have aren't too good.

>>7528272
just get some books that you think accurately describe different types of catholic literature (actual theology, fiction based around it, etc.) and compile them into a nice looking .png

>>7526275

Just a general observation/wish/request: It would be great if all threads had a date or some sort of version info on them. I find these charts to be helpful, but it can be tedious to figure out what is the most up-to-date.

Also, what is a good idea for a chart that doesn't exist or needs updating? Maybe I should work on one myself some time soon. Polish lit? Protestantism? Something else?

>>7526707

>exit-level
I've always taken the term to mean the opposite of entry-level titles (and not suicide-related), i.e., the final bosses of literature.

>>7528231
>Odysseus Weeps
have you read it?

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>>7526300
>illuminatus
>red pill

Oh, you mean that book that says not to believe everything that you hear? I'm sure that's the philosophy of the masses.

>>7528221
Just read Borges, Dunsany, Calvino, Cortazar

Does anyone have either an intro to poetry chart or just a list of like 10-20 things that could get me started?

>>7529484
Start with an anthology like norton anthology of poetry or blooms best poems of the English language

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>>7528184

>>7529499
>>7529506
>>7529517
Is there a guide for reading the bible? I've seen a lot of people recommend not reading it cover to cover? I really like the Christian history one you got... Never seen it

>>7529530

This is a great list of doorstoppers but I'm not sure how it's /fit/ related.

>>7529522
How do I into brown pill mode

>>7529537
>138 votes
>top 100 books

sounds legit

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>>7529575
Yeah I saw that on the wiki but I can't really take it seriously with that 2pac and everything

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>>7529484
>>7529575
>>7529603
Here's another.
Quite different. Whitman is only in Entry Level.

>>7529621
please stop posting this chart, it's been proven to be a half-assed troll numerous times

>>7529537
Why is Reddit's Guide to the Galaxy above The Illiad?

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>>7529537
I have no clue why people still post this one when the new one is so much better (both in terms of the selections and having over 3x the number of voters).

>>7529659
Because only 138 people voted for 100 books and people with shit opinions are more likely to participate in this than in a discussion thread

>>7529673
Sweet, thanks brah

Which translation of Ficciones?

>>7529706
>7529706
Just go with Hurley, mate. The collection is well worth it.

>>7526300
Former occultist here. That purple pill is garbage

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>>7528184
>>7529556
this, anyone?

>>7529921
Not that anon, but what would be your picks? And why former if u don't mind me asking

>>7528207
Rings of Saturn by Sebald is def real, I borrowed it from my library a while ago after hearing about it on /lit/, I really liked it.

On /x/ there's a meme where people talk about a fake movie called The Grifter that is like supersecret and impossible to find and it's the scariest thing ever. Is this image a /lit/ meme or are these books real? >>7528231 Makes Odysseus Weeps sound like an internet legend.

>>7527921
>Some people have said it's the books you read in order to be done with literature, but that's an inherently stupid idea.
Why?

>>7528519
Yes.

>>7530501
>I've surfed that one wave now I'm done with surfing

>I've had sex with that one woman now I'm done with sex

>I've breathed that one breath now I'm done with breathing

>My heart has done that one special beat and now it's done with beating

>I've thought a special thought now I'm done with thinking

>I've masturbated to underwater blind deaf mute amputee midget hentai now I'm done with masturbating

>>7529673
When is the next one?

>>7528280
How the fuck do you make the image though? It's fucking rocket science for computer illiterates like me.

>>7529559
>Different people vote for the same book
>That's why some books have more votes than others
Stupid cunt

>>7528207
p sure Internet Dreams was some vaporwave poem going around on bandcamp around 2012. I think the same guy also did one called Ethernet Cloud.

>>7529673

Is Infinite Jest REALLY #1? Or am I just being trawled.

>>7530543

dumbest analogies

>>7530895
It's the most popular of the meme trilogy because it's the least demanding. So yeah.

>>7530964

to clarify, people don't think it's the greatest work ever?

>>7528342
It's obviously not about that. Those are some great books, by but no means 'final bosses' of anything.

>>7530901
>he still can't understand the difference between analogy and simile

>>7530901
>I've masturbated to underwater blind deaf mute amputee midget hentai now I'm done with masturbating
>dumbest analogy

Pick one.

>>7530501
Because that's not how hobbies work.

>>7530578
Don't know, this isn't a formal process or anything, but the 2015 poll only occurred in October so I imagine it will be second half of 2016 at the earliest.

>>7530895
>>7530970
It's what people voted. I didn't conduct the poll, but the polling anon posted periodic images compiling all the responses to date, and from what I remember there were few clear troll posts. A lot of people genuinely seem to love Infinite Jest.

>>7526275
What does "exit-level" actually mean? Books to read when considering suicide?

>>7531071
see
>>7527921

>>7526275
wtf is Stoner exit level? It's an okay book that is neither exceptional nor difficult in any way.

>>7529551

>guide for reading the bible
>a lot of people recommend not reading it cover to cover

I would agree with that. There are several kinds of literature in the Bible and different things going on in them, and going cover-to-cover can obscure all this. Also the chronology is lost in the book order sometimes, especially in the middle portion of the OT, so going through in order can be confusing. Add to that the fact that books like Leviticus (where most cover-to-over reading gets bogged down) lack the narrative of other books, and trying to read cover-to-cover becomes extremely tedious.

I would recommend reading one individual book at a time (or maybe two, one OT and one NT), beginning to end. Chronology can be one criterion for choosing which book to read next.

Another major factor is the genre of the various books. The OT is often divided into history, prophets, and 'wisdom literature' like Psalms and Ecclesiastes, and the NT contains Gospels, letters, and apocalyptic lit (i.e., Revelation). One approach to the OT might be to start with history (Gen, Ex), a wisdom book (maybe Job, since it's thought to be the earliest OT book written), an early prophet (or more history until the prophets become directly relevant), and so on. A study Bible (or a resource like Wikipedia even) can give guidance about chronology, authorship, etc.

For the NT, I would actually say start with Mark, and save Matthew until a good portion of the OT (like Isaiah) has been read, since Mt is so extensively related to the OT. Acts was written by Luke, so Luke-Acts can be seen as a continuous narrative; also Acts introduces Paul, author of most of the NT letters. Read Revelation after John (and maybe last of all).

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>>7529621
>Shakespeare on the same tier as Ben Jonson, Richard Lovelace, George Herbert, and fucking Dryden
>Housman, Rossetti, and Marvell in "Levelled Up-tier"
>Whitman on the list twice
>Of all people fucking John Ashbery and Hart Crane in "Mama's Proud-tier"

I seriously hope this is a troll list.

>>7529673
What if we banned all the meme books like IJ, Moby Dick so people can't vote for them and have an actual non-meme chart?

>>7528221
same

>>7527921
How fucking new do you have to be for this even to be a question? Exit level has always been sad books that make you want to kill yourself.

>>7531118
Make image pls

>>7531457
The Vision of Piers Plowman isn't sad, ya doofus.

>>7528272
>>7530597
If you have a PC you should have MS Paint. Start by using the zoom tool to zoom out, then drag the bottom right-corned of the image out so that you have a big work area.

Use google image search to find the book covers you want. Right-click and select "copy," then go into Paint and hold Ctrl and press V (the hotkey for Paste) and the image you copied will show up on the image.

You can use the cut tools to select part of the image and move it around, and there's a text tool for adding text.

>>7531506

Hm, should I seriously? I'm >>7528339 actually and looking for a project I could contribute to.

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>>7531545
I think you should. I think all anons knowledgeable enough to contribute in this way should. Plus, I've never seen a guide for the bible yet despite its importance.

I've been looking at this https://www.backtothebible.org/reading-guide/16 but it seems lazily done like all their other guides.

>>7528339
Magical Realism and short stories (not novella) would be great!

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Requesting Mishimia and Dickens charts pls.

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>>7531457
The American Language is about exactly what the name implies, it isn't sad and doesn't make you want to kill yourself. The Street of Crocodiles is likewise not particularly sad. Out of The Major Works of Sir Thomas Browne I guess you could find Urn Burial sad because of the subject matter, but by-and-large his stuff isn't sad- at most it's conflicted, in the vein of Ecclesiastes. The Manuscript Found in Saragossa isn't depressing. Neither is The Vision of Piers Plowman, which is strongly anti-suicide if anything. Petersburg is oftentimes a very funny book, hardly what you'd put on a list of books that make you want to kill yourself.

My point being, you don't know what you're talking about, and you should be embarrassed by your post.

>>7526300
You should put The Dragon Book of Essex on that purple pill list.

how do you save a thread with all the pics in high res

>>7531763
warosu.org my boi

>>7530597
just get into a program like mspaint, get the covers for every book you want in the list, and copy paste them in. i would recommend mspaint on windows and pixelmator or gimp on mac.

>>7531572
Concur, except I'd be fine with novellas too.

>>7529575
>Robert Frost
>Intermediate
Robert Frost is one of my favorite poets, but he is incredibly entry-level

>>7531653
Nice. Thanks.

>>7526275

is /lit/ to actual lovers of litterature what /mu/ is to actual lovers of music, ie poser shit?

>>7534227
the buyfag/bookshelf threads should give you a clear answer

>>7534227
Like most other boards, maybe about 1/10 know a bit about what they're talking about.

>>7534227
yes

come/stay for the memes

if you know your shit you can sometimes identify someone else who knows something. it's rare and most people rather memepost cause its easier/funner

>>7534227
do you think /mu/ is full of posers because you disagree with their taste and think they must be pretending or something? I don't see how you can rationally label an entire board as posers

>>7534317
He is generalising. You know he is. You know that he is talking about the majority of the content posted on that board. Yet, you choose to take an issue with an obviously very helpful and absolutely necessary language exercise. Generalisation.
You're probably out of high-school by now, you don't need to keep up spewing the basic crap they force-feed us.

>>7534339
I'd still like to hear his rationale.

>>7528207
Yeah, most of these are non existent. Just look at Dances of Wormwood, Midnight Rain, Aestrith's Song of the Dead, Cypress Funeral, Gloria Candesco: They're simply stock photos with some lazy single-color text slapped in.

>>7528207
How can I found internet dreams?

>>7528342
the final bosses of /lit/ chart is just finnegans wake zettels traum and petersburg, but no one saved it because it was just 3 books

>>7531185
>implying meme status devalues a book

pleb detected

>>7530524
And... Tell us about it.

>>7528207
De Hoogmoedige Doden is real. I don't see why the Dutch translation is pictured here though, it's a Japanese book.

>>7534268
This is why i don't go to /mu/ anymore. Thanks for this post anon.

>>7531707
>The American Language is about exactly what the name implies, it isn't sad and doesn't make you want to kill yourself.

It's put there as a joke about how terrible American English is.

>>7526275
seems more like a "books with faces on em" chart

>>7529522
Anyone else notice the irony that Matrix references might be the most brainless commoner thing a person can do?

>>7534560
>implying most book covers aren't just stock photos
I agree with you though, Cypress Funeral's cover is a Polish matchbook design. I think I've seen the weird Internet Dreams face before.

>>7535385
What are the post-game superbosses? If Finnegan's Wake is the Sephiroth, then what is Emerald Weapon?

>>7537403

probably the Voynich Manuscript

>>7536579
At the point that picture was made everyone had forgotten it was a Matrix reference in the first place. A series of threads were made in /x/ where people unironically made new pills as OC, therefore all the "tongue-in-cheek" DA tier shit. Some of them are unrelated and come from /pol/.

>>7537848
http://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/14708916/#14708916
This is one of the earliest threads, they didn't become unbearably cancerous until a certain tripfag called The Splendid Vendor Xeno started frequenting them, which either caused or coincided with the time it became a eternal general in all but name.

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>>7537848
we had a rash of them

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>>7537891
fuck this is gonna take forever to post

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>>7537894
>>7537910
Oh dear, finally! Pictures for my beloved pet ant!

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>>7537891
>>7537894
>>7537910
>saving thumbnails

Go big or go home

>>7526386
Yes you get your certificate and badge in the mail

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>>7526275
HOLY FUCK I'm retarded, I'm reading The Messiah of Stockholm and I thought Bruno Schulz was made up, gonna check him out immediately

>>7533994
There's already one for novella. Don't have it though

>>7531185
things become memes because they are that well beloved you goof. infinite jest is widely considered an absolute magnum opus. certainly not my choice for number one but its in my top 3

>>7540867
No, it's literally only here that you hear about it a lot. Most people think it's bloated, mediocre and definitely not a required read.

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Not sure why no one has posted this yet..

Does anyone have a chart on surrealism (French, or otherwise)

>>7529921
what should be there instead
the pill thing is a stupid meme gone out of control but there ought to be a real occult chart either way

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Anyone got the chart of publisher ranks?

>>7541358
Because most of us aren't ants

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>>7541363
I pretty much have all the charts. taking requests

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>>7541363
Here is some french /lit/

>>7529506
I'd replace Asbridge with Madden, personally

>>7526275
Why is Stoner exit level? It's a good book, but it's not something a teenager couldn't pick up and read with reletive ease. In sooth, I know not why you meme.

>>7541859

is there a chart on some balkan lit? yugoslavian particularly

>>7541859
can you upload them all as a zip to mega?

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>>7540859
Ah, I misread the post as wanting Magical Realism books and short stories, but no novellas. Here's a chart on contemporary novellas, in case someone wants it.

>>7541859
I too have noticed the recommended reading site on the stick, and therefore likewise have pretty much all the charts. But I'm not taking requests.

Does anyone have a chart on absurdist fiction, or am I going to have to make do with the surrealist one?

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>>7531647

>>7542147
There is a lot not on the sticky

>>7542511
Such as?

>>7529551
>Antigone
>Old Man and the Sea
>Doorstoppers
Though I do agree.>>7529530
How is this /fit/ related?

>>7529706
I prefer the Anthony Kerrigan one.

>>7542523
aka 5 books noone has ever heard of in the top 5

>>7542541
I think 7 is where it starts for real. 1 -6 are trawll picks.

>>7542566
the /lit guide to Murakami:
>start here: any of his books
>end here: thrown into the trash
FTFY

>>7526275
>Memórias Póstumas de Brás Cubas
>tfw Brazilian teenagers are forced to read that in school and only to spend the rest of their lives hating Brazilian literature
I fucking hate this country.

Is there a chart for which Harry Potter books to read first?

I think Rowling will be my favorite author after this, but Tolkien's like the best author, right? So I'm kinda not sure.

>>7542020

https://mega.nz/#!d1RQzRjb!YJ7-7CIkMZyUE5en7apvTQEfSOIiNHD_xAkK1f8FLHU

Never done it before. let me know if that works.

>>7542711

It works. Thank you anon.