MTFG - male to female general

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1st for burch, the pinnacle of passing

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>>8682045
Stop bullying pretty girls

I don't like wearing bras

>>8682052
You can't wear flannels forever

>>8682052
I don't like not needing to wear bras.

>>8682051
>tfw not a pretty girl

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>>8682051
uwu

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>>8682053
I can. I have. I will.

>>8682062
ogre

There was a baby ferret that wouldn't wake up today and it freaked me out but it was just really sleepy I guess. I picked it up and it slept in my arms a bit.

>>8682076
can i sleep in your arms a bit

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>>8682057
Who said?
They're dumb and wrong
>>8682062
Holy shit, a girly hairdoo, a little mascara, and lip color would go a long long way in that pretty face.
>>8682065
You know, your body will catch up with your antics and everybody will know

>>8682078
I think so

>have an LDR chaser boyfriend in another hemisphere
>never met him irl
>know well it's burning out but don't want to lose him
>he keeps being nice to you, buy you gifts but you only feel super awkward
>have a constant repressed crush on your best RL friend who happens to be an mtf girl too and also the prettiest, cutest thing you've ever seen
>ofc she's straight and even has a loving boyfriend
Should I break up with him? Look for someone else? Keep being attached and loving my friend the platonic way or get distanced?

>>8682078
Good choice.
They're really warm and she's very softt

inb4 rabbit autist

>>8682087
wtf im jealous

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>>8682086
your a pseudo bisexual
its burning out because meta attraction is based only on heteromanticism and thirst for cocks and to valiadate yourself.

agps are meant to date girls.

Too much attention
Thank you
Good night

>>8682097
You're cute

>>8682081
thanks :o
idk how to style my hair so i usually just let it go however, idk i guess i should probably get a haircut some day
and ugh i'm not out to my roommate and he's a totally normal brodude guy so i don't really want to draw his attention, and i'd have to either stay in the bathroom for hours to apply makeup or risk him seeing me with makeup on

>>8682097
You're cute

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Will you join the unity? I shall bring about peace in this world through the unity.

>>8682045
I definitely look like a boy still

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daily public service announcemnt by the HSTS trans alliance

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>>8682036
STOP THE AGP MENANCE THAT HURTS TRANSIGRLS EVERDAY.

>>8682110
what's gamp

>>8682115
gynandromorphophilia:
aka being attracted to trannies.

>>8682113
Please stop the Blanchard menace.

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>tfw shes hiding and avoiding me again

>>8682104
Bangs bruv.
>Giving a fuck.
For all you know he's faggot friendly

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>download a cute boy otome game
>end up liking a tomboy the most
I really am psbi ;-;

>>8682147
bangs seem like such a meme though :(

idk he's not the kind of guy i'd ever want to have to talk about anything trans-y with
he's this semi-cringey brodude guy

>>8682148
>otome
aren't those games where you're a girl and date guys what

How's your day been

>>8682148
whats the game

>>8682162
Mystic Messenger

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>>8682148
its okay that your psbi, just follow what your supposed to do which is date women.

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Tfw hips and ribs don't flex like a cis girls

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>>8682183
HRT is a waste of time.

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>>8682185
hrt is gods gift to """Man""" kind
i can pass as a 10 year old boy in boymode and live out my shota yoai fantasies

>>8682185
hip replacement therapy

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My cis girl friend invited me to a Renaissance festival. Everybody's dressing up in medieval clothes, what the hell should I wear?

I'd love to get some kind of fancy elegant medieval dress but I'm not really experienced with putting nice outfits together.

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>>8682196
>not wearing a suit of armor
????????????
medival dresses are agp

HRT doesn't actually exist. Not in the sense that people believe it exists in, at least. People assume that HRT is a slow injection of hormones which slowly fools your body into transforming itself into something mildly resembling a female, when in reality the truth is far more complicated. What HRT actually is is a "universal remote" for the Human Genome, allowing one to subconsciously rewrite his very DNA, completely transforming him from transgender female to cisexual male. In this, HRT does not even limit itself to male to female transitions. I have seen people use it to transform black to white, from mixed Eurasian to a 25/25/50 mix of Hispanic, Chilean, and Filipino. I have seen one person, particularly deranged, use the power of HRT to transform from human to vegetable.

HRT is not a power to be taken lightly. What is contained in those minuscule tablets is the key to all reality, godhood in a pill.

>>8682204
>The Elder Scrolls VI: AUTOGYNE

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I'm going to kill myself within the year

>>8682214
or you can stop memeing yourself

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>>8682204
am i too low iq to understand this humour

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>>8682214
Can I have sex with you first at least?

>>8682218
Fuck dat noise

>>8682227
Depends, are you going to fuck me like a girl or a boy

>>8682228
well goodbye then I guess

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>>8682232
Whichever you prefer at the time. Maybe both.

>>8682243
I don't think there's any doubt to which one is the right one

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>might have sex with a 34 year old guy when I'm 18
is this okay?

>>8682276
good for that 34 year old

landing young puss

>>8682276
Pretty creepy desu

>>8682276
Jaye isnt a boy

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>>8682272
nek minnit

>>8682272
I dont think theres any doubt about the noises you'll make.

I'm so socially autistic I can't leave my house and I'm too afraid people will hurt me in the outside world.

>>8682276
honestly age difference is pretty hot
>before juni my last crush was a 30 year old transgirl

>>8682292
Same.

>>8682292
iktf anon
hugg

>>8682293
I'm just a little nervous because of the age gap, but it is the closest place I'm probably going to get for penis

>>8682301
i mean if he's super unattractive you'll probably regret it but idk
you shouldn't let cocklust rob you of standards

>>8682295
>>8682296
Thanks girls, I'm just so afraid to go out into the world even though I "tfw no bf/gf hard" I've always thought I've liked women but I think at this point I'm just so desperate for human contact I'll honestly settle for anyone.

>>8682276
i like older guys so whatever, he'd be more experienced than some guy your age so take it as a good thing

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>>8682303
>not liking older daddies

>>8682310
i can like guys as a fetish probably, idk
i'm figuring myself out
but idk, guys usually want absolute commitment and i don't think i could do that wiht a guy

>>8682303
he's okay looking. kind of bear looking, I've had sex with ugly guys before and loved it, so I think I'll be fine. I am just unsure about the age and the time of night.

>>8682305
Same.

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>>8682314
>not wanting to be in the arms of a strong cute boy forever

its ok to pop .5 xanax to sleep after drinking 2 glasses of wine right

its better than 2 shots of moonshine at least?

>>8682317
burch is an ogre who cums on his feet and has an amputation fetish

>>8682319
idk anon maybe you should just give the rest to me i'll hold onto it so you don't hurt yourself

>>8682317
>pic related
>cute
femboys are cute

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>mother constantly engaging in lengthy, very pointless conversation about random stuff, and the more silent I stay the more she brings new stuff up as a way to get me to talk
>actually just have voice dysphoria
>try to maintain girl voice
>starts to fail mid conversation and just go "mm" and walk out

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>when a stranger calls you cute
wow for once in my life I don't feel like absolute garbage

>>8682328
what a spoiled cunt

>>8682333
w-what me?

>>8682324
but i cant even sleep lately without a knockout cocktail

Anyone recommend any ways to 'exercise' your dong so it doesn't atrophy? Straight jacking it doesn't get it up like it used to.

>>8682335
you mooch off of her and you wont even talk to her
spoiled brat

>>8682340
that's why i dont bring it up though anon
I do my best to stay in the room and try but at a certain point my voice breaks and dysphoria makes me cry

daily reminder that everyone is going to make it, except for chasers

>older guy stops replying and goes offline
WHY I just wanted dick tonight

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>>8682349
thanks mommy

I went out and apologised for not being very talkative lately, and said my voice was causing me some distress but im listening
and then she just said everyone hates the sound of their own voice anyway and she doesnt care that it's male
i backed off around there but i think that makes it feel worse

>>8682354
>chara will never murder you

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>>8682359
This fetish is spreading world wide.

>>8682342
kys you sheltered troll

>>8682359
>you will never murder chara

>>8682366
you know what

youre right anon
she does do a lot to try to understand, i shouldnt complain, I cant expect perfection when I am no source of it myself

Reminder to not get srs surgery in the current day in age.

If you have to, get full castration, but don't open up festering wounds in your body for no good reason ^w^

>>8682373
go away /pol/

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>>8682367
Why would you try to murder a god.

>>8682372
do you explain to her -how- bad it makes you feel? like, that having a masculine voice makes you cry


also don't reply to bully anons desu

>>8682372

You can't expect to make progress without practice.

Even once you have a voice down, it's going to break sometimes, at the worse times, in public, in front of your boss, in front of an SO, you have to learn to deal with it and keep rolling, you can't just break down when it happens.

Go talk to your Mom, she sounds supportive, she's literally the best person in the world to practice with.

>>8682372
oh i didnt expect you to turn sensible

yeah
appreciate her a little more please

>>8682375

Not /pol/, I'm basically as pro trans as a normal person can be, go ahead and question my politics

I just would never wish that barbaric practice on anyone.

And this is 4chan, so you have to lead with your more controversial foot if you want conversations

>>8682378
dont try to help people when youre a human trashcan

selfish as fuck to try to ruin other peoples lives when yours is terrible

>>8682383
it's not nearly that bad. i've talked to people who've gotten it
it's not -ideal-, but it's the only option if you have severe genital dysphoria
how many choices do you have when seeing your dick makes you want to die?

>you have to lead with your more controversial foot if you want conversations
not really desu
this general has its own culture

>>8682385

Full castration, was in my first post.

>>8682383
oh then you are a chaser
if you knew anything about transwomen you would know why some of us feel the need to get SRS and know the bullshit /pol/ propaganda about dilating is false

>>8682388
HAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

the doctor's recommendation is just a /pol/ propaganda
yeah dude i am also retarded with an axe wound
please get this surgery so i feel less autistic

>>8682388

>suggests full castration
>chaser

Goddammit, 'chaser' is like a gag reflex for good conversation here.

>>8682386
but then you're just going to be a freak with absolutely nothing
like i said, it's the best option if you have genital dysphoria
it's not perfect, but it's not bad (once it heals) and with good surgeons it can look pretty good

at least talk to people who've gotten it before you say shit like this

>>8682391
after a year dilation is only required once a week for half an hour

>>8682391
>not /pol/
>immediately starts sperging out identically to /pol/posters
idk why i even bother

>>8682378
I said something like "yeah i understand, but it's not about how you hear me but how i hear myself. youd feel weird if an old man was talking from your chest" and she said "ah yeah I guess so". So I feel bad for complaining now really, I was just upset, but she does try

Bully anon is right. She's in her late 40s, slowly starts to call me by my female name, accepted my transition immediately when I came out, has helped me find my first job and even though we're dirt poor she offers a huge amount of financial support. I need to work on my voice more, and if my male voice comes through then so be it.

>>8682393
I really really want it, but I am also horribly scared of going through the procedure, like it fucking terrifies me.

>>8682395
i love when you act like every anon is the exact same person

>>8682394
you realize that your body is a male's right? youre genetically coded to grow as a male

so when you have a wound on your dick your body wants to regenerate
thats your external bodys main function is to heal flesh

to think that it just wouldnt matter because you //think// its a vagina is the dumbest thing ive ever heard

just shows you didnt pay attention in highschool

>>8682394

It's 4 hours a day for up to 6 months, what's your point?

>Has suicidal tendencies
>Thinks you can fix them by putting yourself in a no-escape situation where you have to torture yourself everyday for months

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>>8682401

>>8682396
ah, that's good, if she's at least sort of understandig
ngl i get really jealous anytime i hear of people with mildly supportive parents

and idk, it's best to just ignore them when they're acting like assholes imo

>>8682401
>>8682400
>when people diss srs without knowing anything about it

>>8682405
literally 0 argument

based human trashcan

>>8682400
poor chaser, has to project your love for dick on transwomen because you cant admit you are a fag

>>8682404
explain this?
>>8682400

>>8682408
still 0 argument against biology
sad!

>>8682349
I don't know, if I go to male prison again I may not

I can't live with those retards again

>>8682405
I think the harshness is valid
sometimes the only thing that can talk sense into people is some rough truth
im not a little bitch, never have been and if anything it's probably sexist to start acting like one now that im wearing a dress
and using that to disrespect my mom

>>8682398

Think about it this way, anon

If you suggested that procedure to someone as a minority chance of curing cancer, they'd probably accept death first, it's several times worse than a continuous round of chemo.

Some people have suggested fully aesthetic conversions, where the hole is more like an indention, that's probably fine.

>>8682409
>explain this?
what is there to explain?
you are obviously only here to be hostile to trannies

>try to make supportive argument against one particular procedure
>/pol/ faggot invades thread and joins my side and helps make me look bad

Fucking hell, people.

>>8682401
>>Has suicidal tendencies
>undergoes surgery that is proven to reduce suicide rates
>undeniable beneficial effect of genital reconstructive surgery on post operative outcomes such as subjective well-being, cosmesis, and sexual function (DeCuypere et al., 2005; Gijs & Brewaeys, 2007; Klein & Gorzalka, 2009; Pfafflin & Junge, 1998). GRS has also been found to lead to a quantitative decrease in suicide attempts and drug use in post-operative populations (C. Mate-Kole et al., 1990). In studies where affirming care was denied, patients showed significantly worse outcomes (Ainsworth and Spiegel, 2010; C. Mate-Kole et al., 1990).

=>>8682411
it's really unhealthy to listen to burch when he just tries to drag people down with them

your mom is definitely one of the only persons in the world who have unconditional love for you, so its a really good idea to confide in her and ask her for advice
not to mention shes also spent a very long time living as a woman and if youre honest to her you can acquire a lot of her experience to shape yourself better

don't turn into a lightweight just because people here are
always stay strong

>>8682411
it's really not, and you shouldn't convince yourself otherwise
"kys you sheltered troll" isn't an appropriate response to you having dysphoria

>im not a little bitch, never have been and if anything it's probably sexist to start acting like one now that im wearing a dress
i mean, HRT does make you more emotional, and women tend to be more sensitive than men (and way more emotionally intelligent), sooooo
imo cultivating sensitivity is a good idea. 4chan shitposting is all well and good, but it's even less appropriate for a woman than it is a guy

>>8682413
still 0 argument
very sad

>>8682421
can you argue against scientific studies please >>8682416

>>8682418

>always stay strong

Goddammit, were on /lgbt/ but this is still 4chan, tell the girl to nut up, don't fucking sugar coat everything, you sound like a pussy

Voice anon, your Mom is on your side, stop fucking things up for her, you're going to be fine, but this is a reminder that if you kill yourself it's all your fault, faggot

Good luck

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can we stop responding to /pol/anons please
the first mention of "axe wound" should have been a red flag desu

>>8682412
Idk, my dick makes me want to kms desu.

>>8682422
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2004/jul/30/health.mentalhealth
>The review of more than 100 international medical studies of post-operative transsexuals by the University of Birmingham's aggressive research intelligence facility (Arif) found no robust scientific evidence that gender reassignment surgery is clinically effective.

>this is compared to a 1990 article with an outdated surgery for a transexual base that was for the most part all over 30

lol.. awkward

>tfw cisgirls still treat you like the token gay friend even after you've started transitioning

Fuck my life.

Any advice on fixing this

>>8682423
that's exactly what i told her
you just worded it differently
weird

>>8682415
this is a typical derailment tactic
like when someone talks about why they dont want srs and everyone starts screeching "agp transbian scum" or whatever too

>>8682423
>being on 4chan means you have to be an asshole to everyone
desu this is why i filter so many posts

>>8682429
you should definitely get it, then
just don't skimp on a cheap surgeon, save up for someone great
everyone i've talked to about it hasn't regretted it, so idk, there's not much of an issue
and idk, i saw a pic of a suporn one that looked pretty great

>>8682424

>basic, principled disagreement on srs
>met with a response of "chaser, dick lover, /pol/tard"
>omg anons don't waste your precious emotionally intelligent energy on these people who disagree with you!

>>8682436
that guy was replying to me and youre still an ugly troll who should kill themselves

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srs is an open wound that spits out hairballs and you have to get dilated for 4 hours a day. very painfull, many complications, can end up with a mutilated monster genital that looks digusting, very few look decent.

hold out with me and wait till theirs improvements in it!

>tfw 80iq but still smart enough to know to wait till i can get a stem cell cis gentials instead of a mutilated wound

>>8682424
its funny because we get way more replies than you do

youre almost exclusively ignored because youre such an unlikeable freak

>>8682429

Full castration or purely aesthetic desu

Unless you fetishize your transness there's no reason to get a shove a 7 inch rod into your guts and cause yourself continuous, unimagineable pain desu

>chaser
Pre-op actually

>>8682440
nice bait
also you are going to be waiting 30 years

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>>8682440
have fun waiting on that technology that won't come for another 100 years

>>8682443
trans and chaser isnt mutually exclusive
hi Kayla btw

>>8682444
20 years is a much more realistic estimate

but regardless i think thats a far better alternative than having a wound constantly trying to heal itself that you only have damaged and stretched nerves inside

>>8682440
It also costs a shitload or takes years on a public health system with a bad surgeon

>get orchi
>dead sex drive means no hardons
>live with dick perma ez-tuck (cuz no balls to get in the way), sit down to pee and only see it to shower
>no expensive wound
>no dialation
>(almost) no risk compared to srs
>no hairy inside
good feel

>>8682440

Honestly, if we can grow ears, cheeks, and nipples on pigs, why can't be grow penises and labia?

I mean, it wouldn't solve the necrotic canal issue, but it seems like a logical step otherwise

>>8682445
what do you care
you are a cis girl

>>8682447
well, cis chasers are guys, so they tend to be far more awful due to having male personalities + male libido
the only trans chaser i've met who has been cis chaser level was hips

>>8682454
youre stupid as fuck to believe anything she says in general
like a literal brick brain

>>8682450

That and the fact that those who wait will more functional, aesthetic, and pleasurable results than those who don't

It's literally the marshmellow test

>>8682454
Just commenting.

>>8682451
>dead sex drive means no hardons
one of the horniest transgirls i know has had orchi lol

>>8682456
t. was abused as a kid and now believes all the 3.8 billion men in the world are evil

>>8682462
must be a MALE

>>8682459
What do you think i am?

>>8682436
I'd love to go to Suporn lol, but that's like, never going to happen.
I will definitely get it if I can save up though.

>>8682443
I mean yeah, I'll probably go with, purely aesthetic, but I still disagree with what you're saying, anyone that wants SRS should be able to get it.

>>8682469
i really dont care

>>8682459
I know what chara is like
its fun to indulge her memes, just like puffybutt

>>8682456

You're a faggot, but you did make me think of a question

As a cis guy, the likes of which you apparently hate, do transwomen tend to hate their own maleness or maleness in general? I'm not saying your a bad person, but I guess it's sort of like how short people treat other short people worse than normies.

>>8682474
lol why are you comparing transwomen's thoughts to ogre burch?

he's just a failed man, not a real trans

>>8682471
You care enough to talk about what i lie or don't lie about ^^

>>8682473
do you know me well?

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>>8682185

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>>8682456
werent you like having an autism attack the other day saying all men are evil

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>>8682107

>>8682477
i like calling people stupid
youre really irrelephant

>>8682473
pretty cringy really

>>8682470

I don't think you should be stopped

If a girl (of 18 years of age) wanted to get fgm'd, I'd let her, even though its pretty obvious she's either A) Brainwashed or B)Ignorant

There's a LOT of misinformation about SRS and a lot of post's and political writers like to cover up the nasty sides of it, making the surgery seem like this warm blanket that will melt away your discomfort with your body, but it's not true.

But ya, I'm not saying people should be stopped, I started out just saying that you probably shouldn't get it

>>8682466
Me irl

>>8682466
no, but male chasers just generally tend to be pretty low quality
transgirls into other trannies at least have a sense of decency

>>8682470
suporn's retiring, but there are better surgeons out there
he's just relatively cheap
apparently there's a better american doctor who charges like 60k

>>8682474
i have extreme issues with being uncomfortable around guys, likely due to abuse, sooo i'm not a good litmus test
most transgirls are pretty okay with -decent- guys.
but a ton of the guys you meet on 4chan / guys interested in transgirls are assholes, soooooo

>>8682482
i wish i was a elephant

>>8682488
2meirl4me

>People think you get wizard powers from staying a virgin until you're 30

>You actually get them by suffering dysphoria and avoiding srs until you're 40

>Not getting tucks for the bucks

>>8682474
I think the male hating thing is a minority, just a really loud one since most people don't really give a shit. There are whole communities of women dragging each other by the hair, spitting on each other, screaming, throwing fits, calling each other bitches and whores and sluts, beating on innocent men and calling the cops when he walks away only to scratch themselves up and send him to jail, etc. I think most people know immorality is a human trait, it only appears differently in men and women.

>>8682489
lmao youre such a liar

you have such obvious emotional trauma from males it leaks through my monitor
seeing you pretend you dont is pretty hilarious

you were abused so badly you literally ran away to the other gender
h i l a r i o u s

>>8682036
Can I have 1 gf please? Thank you.

>>8682484
>genital dysphoria is brainwashing
anon, you sound like you've been spoonfed all your opinions from /pol/
i've talked to like, 3-4 people who've had srs, and literally none of them have regretted it

>>8682494
the main problem is a woman is much less likely to rape you, and far less able to hurt you as much as a man would

>>8682499
why dont you actually name the people instead of roleplaying, donkey?

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tfw i lied and i actually have to get srs because my daddy doesnt like girlcock
T-T I dun wan a mutilated axe wound that shoots out hair balls and looks digsting since ill probably get unlucky and end up with some abomination and will be increadibly painfull

Rando here

I've never had it explained to me, but how do trans people settle the whole "Gender doesn't exist, but I was born the wrong gender" contradiction? It seems to get brought up a lot but I've never heard a first party opinion on it.

Does girlness exist? If not, why is the term transgender exist rather than just transexual? If gender is just a social role, than why do you care what your bits are?

I'm only trolling like, 2.5%, really just want some honest opinions on the matter.

>>8682503
>some abomination and will be increadibly painfull
I've not had it, but this honestly seems like what SRS is

>>8682499
But paradoxically women are usually crueler and more complex when abusive. I have a cigarette burn scar on my penis from an ex. We argued about something while she was drunk, I dozed off...

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how does srs work with diapers
wouldnt it get infected really easy
>>8682512
ive seen very few that look good, im scared of pain being lasting

>>8682512
tru

>>8682515
だっこだっこ
かわいいね!
本当にその絵が好き

>>8682499
that's only because they're unable to anon
women commit pretty much everything else theyre physically able to in greater numbers
they will lie, steal, cheat, manipulate, and drag you through the dirt. get you in prison, poison your dog, etc. they will mentally rape you until you masturbate to their pictures 10 years into their abuse.

point is, immorality is innate to humans and you should either hate humanity, or hate both men and women

being AFRAID of men for their physical prowess is understandable for sure, but actually going out and speaking against their very nature due to the actions of an immoral minority (which women experience also) is bad

>>8682489
Oh yeah, I know he's retiring, he was just the only one I knew anything about.

>>8682503
Get a new daddy then. What will you do once he decides to get rid of you and then you're stuck with something you don't want?

>>8682503
go to the suporn team

>>8682513
but men are more likely to be abusive due to being more mentally aggressive due to T, more capable to abuse, and having much more aggressive libidos

>>8682507
>born the wrong gender
born the wrong sex

>>8682520
i just dislike how men act in general?
like, my sample size isn't great, since i mostly meet guys from 4chan, but even then, all the trannies / cis girls i meet are so much better behaved

they just seem to be way less empathic, much angrier, way more prone to make creepy sex jokes, etc

>>8682503

As a cis, heterosexual male, the only downside I see is that literally no neogenitals look like the real thing, apparently a lot of people are happy with theirs, but trust me it really doesn't look the same

However, it can be close enough, be happy with your change, embrace it.

>>8682512
Yes! Exactly, just keep your sweet delicious girl cocks instead.

>>8682526
oh so you said you talked to 3-4 women who said they were happy with SRS then you completely ignore someone when youre asked to give proof of it

so youre just lying now to convince people to be as deformed as you
lol :)

>>8682524
>>8682528
I'll be her new daddy

>>8682503
Is that true? Do you really have to get SRS because of your bf, is that really you diaperfag?
I feel bad for you if so.

>>8682530
I'll never understand why they wana get rid of something that makes them unique. What's better, a nice plump small pussy stick or an axe wound lol. There's too many vaginas anyway we don't need more

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why is their no feminine penis surgery that turns it into a tiny 1" micro cock

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>>8682515
You might be the creepiest person on all of 4chan.

>that feel when rainy days

>>8682526

Women are more likely to abuse and more likely to use weapons or implements in their abuse

Average damage caused by abuse totally favors the men, though

>more mentally aggressive due to T

Nigga wat, wtf is mental aggression? Manipulative tendencies follow women

>more capable to abuse
I... guess?

>more aggressive libidos

This isn't even a negative AND it's incorrect, libido levels are fairly similar across age groups for men and women

Dude, it's ok to say you hate Men because of past experiences, it's trauma, that's fine, but don't try to pseudoscience your discrimination into feeling legitimate

>I mostly meet guys from 4chan

why

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>>8682532
i could probably just leave it in a chastity cage and it would be an alternative but that doesnt sound comfortabel to do long term

>>8682541
where else is an ugly troll doll supposed to find orbiters without leaving the house?

>>8682543
im very sorry
i guess that's the benefit there of being a filthy transbian
if it rots away, we have toys and anal, and if it doesnt, we can use it

Reminder to not get SRS. You will end up not being happy and with an axe wound, any man that wants you to have an axe wound and not a girl dick, is not a man worth your time. You should find someone who loves you for you like >>8682530 or me. We're real men.

>>8682550
not to mention theres literally no vulva

what good is a vagina without a puffy vulva

>>8682554
Exactly! Only alpha males suck girly dicks and fuck boy pussy

>>8682550

Are the chasers that are invading just trolls?

This was all a huge fucking mistake. I think I was so depressed that I just subconsciously went with being transgender and being mildly dysphoric as a way to say "well fuck this is it, that's why I'm sad"

I'm a fucking mess

>>8682560
thinking people trying to help the community from making a terrible decisions are just desperate chasers makes me feel like you need to put your trip on burch

>>8682559
Lmfaooooooo "only alpha males suck girly dicks" I'm fucking done.

>>8682528
thats lewd stop it
>>8682531
you also stop

>>8682541
>Nigga wat, wtf is mental aggression? Manipulative tendencies follow women
you literally become more prone to anger on testosterone
ask FtMs
men tend to get angry and violent far more easily

>This isn't even a negative AND it's incorrect,
do you actually talk to women and men?
it's pretty obvious.
how many unsolicited vagina pics have you gotten?
because i can tell you i've seen a LOT of hairy dicks that i did not want to see.

and it's very much a negative, because men tend to view you as a sex object, whereas female libido is more dependent on emotion. men are also more likely to be sexually obnoxious, ie catcalling, unwanted flirting, etc

>>8682567
Can you show me your feminine penis? I promise not to be lewd

>>8682569
>has never left his house
>only contact with men is at school and from his daddy who touched him
>is therefore the authority on all the 3.8 billion women in the world

ook ook
me take pill
me woman now

>>8682561
So, have you decided you want to be a boy instead anon? That's okay, everyone makes mistakes. It's good that you looked for a solution.

>>8682560
It's an organised chaser assault to try stop people from doing srs

>>8682573
Honestly I half believe myself. Maybe it's just some hardcore repression. I should see a therapist

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>>8682570
it's big, so no, and this is also a blue board

>>8682577
Pretty please!? Just one small peek?

>>8682580
blue board >:c

>>8682561

Yeah, probably

Atleast you figured it out now, before ripping out all of your crotch meat

Learn to play Go, it's a great zen state, helps you think

>>8682583
chasers are gross desu

>>8682583
Can you post it on another board? r9k? Please I want to see it , I'll show you mine if you show me yours

>>8682576
Possibly a good idea, but therapists are very often wrong. Many may try to push you one way or the other too heavily based on their own ideas of what's happening in your head.
I think it's a good thing you're unsure, as much as that's unhelpful now to hear. When you're completely and positively sure you're a woman (or a man too), it's usually a sign that's taken over your thoughts.

Think about this anon, if you looked in the mirror and saw yourself as a woman, and people treated you accordingly, would you be happy, happier, or even less happy? Would life's struggles still cause you grief and unhappiness? It took some time for me to realise that my problems are still going to remain even though Im appearing as a girl. Gender may seem like a big thing, it is, but it's not the only important thing in life.

The important thing is to seperate out your struggles where they're not intrinsicly connected. If you saw yourself with everything you wanted in life, in a mansion with your loved one, or in the mountains in your dream house, would you still struggle because you are a man? If so, transitioning may be the right thing. The most important thing to do is to step out of lgbt and related, and focus on the rest of your life, whether you decide to transition or not. Dont let it overcome your thoughts or youll never decide.

>>8682584
>before ripping out all of your crotch meat
I want her crotch meat and >>8682577's crotch meat in my mouth

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>>8682586
desu
>>8682590
i'm blocking you right now pervert and reporting you to the police, sir. My penis is not for showing strangers

>>8682590
also there is no posting of yourself on r9k now.
>>8682598
stopppp

>>8682602
>My penis is not for showing strangers
We can get to know eachother, and then you can show me your penis?

>>8682607
Unsee.cc 10 minutes?
Please I'll do anything

>>8682609
igg

Is there a way to be sexually attracted to/fetishize transwomen without being a chaser?

There's got to be some transwoman out there who doesn't mind girly dick play and my interest, but I don't want to be a creep to the majority who don't like that?

Any advice guys/gals?

How to respectful get rocks off plox

>>8682586
the only thing I'd chase is ur heart desu

or something like that I guess

>>8682612
this is literally the worst place to ask
>>8682610
im on bica, so...idk, but pls stop its ,mine

>>8682593
Thanks. I have no idea what to say other than thanks for taking the time to type that.

This is all so confusing and I legitimately think I was being gaslight by a mutual friend. It turns out they did the same thing to a friend who was just as depressed as I am and they came dangerously close to suicide from the stress it caused them. This should have been a huge red flag.

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i just want to be castrated and get a penis reduction surgery down to 1"

>>8682612
Find a cis drag queen if you want dick. Oh, and fetishizing people is always disrespectful and creepy.

>>8682612
>Is there a way to be sexually attracted to/fetishize transwomen without being a chaser?
that's literally the definition of being a chaser
you can be as nice as you want, but you're still a chaser, and most transgirls aren't going to like that

>>8682614
one of the main reasons i don't want to date guys is if i found a guy nice enough for me to like him, he'd be too nice, and with my issues with guys, i wouldn't be able to give him enough back

>>8682617
how are you liking bica?
i was on it for like 5.5 months but eventually male libido started giving me dysphoria, so i switched to cypro

>>8682612
Just find someone that wants a fling/FWB/whatever and don't lead them on acting like you care about them as a person.

>>8682617
I don't know what Bica is, but the more you tell me to stop Persuing your feminine penis, the more I will Persue. If you show me yours I promise I'll show you mine with cum on the picture as tribute

>>8682612
no
there's literally nothing wrong with chasers, dont try to pander to people where you are unable to
it's okay to have fetishes and it's okay to want to have sex with people for their looks and genitals

creep:
>neutral setting
>no flirting started
>oh youre trans? hot i love feminine penis mm show me some feminine penis god i love fucking tgirls

good chaser:
>gracefully initiates basic flirting before making any comments about fetish
>mentions fetish if it's clear you hooked up due to it (in the same light, it's weird to say a girl's feet are hot unless you hooked up because youve both got a foot fetish)
>when alone, jerks off in his room to shemale porn and keeps his fantasies to himself

honestly cis girls can get chased too really, it's the same problem

>>8682622
ive been on it for about a year and i think its okay. the other estrogens, from what i hear, scare me to change

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>>8682602
I am stealing your gif

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>>8682612
being attracted to transgirls doesnt make you a chaser

but basically if you act like a creep, are ugly/short, want to be topped, want to play with their girl cocks you will be seen as a chaser

>>8682625
>:c no

>>8682628
>estrogens
do you mean antiandrogens?

>>8682627
>>when alone, jerks off in his room to shemale porn and keeps his fantasies to himself

Sounds more like a cuck than a good chaser, you know what makes a good chaser? He chases, not sits at home masturbating

>>8682619
no problem anon, had my own huge flings of repression, terf trickery, etc. good luck.

>>8682637
yes

>>8682628
oops, meant to type more
bica is alright, but on cypro you get actual female libido, which is really nice
like, no random arousal + emotional attraction + arousal is this full body 'butterfly' feeling, so nice

>>8682627
honestly that's one thing i don't like about guys is they're. so sex oriented. everything is a fetish.

at least with girls, they usually *romanticize* things, rather than fetishize them
personal example: on female libido, my abuse kink went from 'holy shit being degraded is so hot' to 'i really want somebody to show their love to me via pain'
like, it's gotten to the point where i don't view abuse as a sexual thing at all

>>8682622
>i wouldn't be able to give him enough back
I guess I get it, though if you do wind up finding a guy you think would make you happy ideally you'd be able to work any issues out together.

>>8682634
REEEEEEE SSHOOWWWW MEEEE YOUR FUCKING GIRL COCK NOW!!!!!!!

IVE HAD IT WITH YOU, show it pls

>>8682640
This is absolutely fucked. I'm livid that I've been so stupid and didn't see what was happening

>>8682646
i met a guy whose personality was super sweet and i was romantically attracted to him, but i had to tell him i couldn't do anything, because
>not all that physically attracted to him (though romantic attraction is strong enough to make up for this)
>my attraction to men is hormonal and varies a lot
>i couldn't commit to him 100%, like i could a woman

>>8682638
no
>>8682647
^ this is actually cuck, and creepy bad chasing

a good chaser finds an attractive trans girl, hits on them appropriately, fucks them, and enjoys that theyre trans

>>8682648
Definitely time to cut that person out of your life, and do a lot of self reflection. It's very easy to be manipulated when you hate yourself enough.

>>8682620

Why stop there when you could have a NEGATIVE seven inch penis?

Here, just shove this stainless steel blunt knife into your groin for a few months.

>>8682651
We'll see who gets the girl in the end wise guy. I'm a better chaser than you and I have a much bigger cock.

>Person with fetish is automatically a bad person

Why

I can care about the people that feed my fetish while still fetishizing them, if I really get off on redheads that doesn't mean I see them as less than people

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>>8682647
come cuddle me and ill let you do what you wamt im too tired

>>8682658
I just want girls with feminine penises, what's the harm in that

>>8682658
i think it is becuase the fetish is a person, rather than a particular thing or action

>>8682644

Man, you really do have a Madonna complex, don't you?

>>8682658
>automatically a bad person
no
it's just gross. because you view them as a sex object. not many people want to be sex objects
just because daddy cares about his slut, doesn't mean he doesn't view her as a slut

>>8682659
I love you feminine penis haver.

>>8682651
Cuck. I win. Enjoy jacking off in your basement

>>8682650
I think that's a little sad but overall reasonable, you shouldn't force yourself to be with someone you can't fully feel committed to, though admittedly I felt the same way at one point and just kinda stopped.
>>8682658
The negative aspect comes from fetishizing a person and having that become the basis of what's ultimately a one-sided romance or at least something similar.

>>8682653
You've helped more than you can possibly know. I'm sad that this wasn't the reason (or who knows, maybe I am repressing. I'll talk to an expert) but at the same time I suppose it's nice that I can see I was being taken advantage of. I asked the other gaslightee and it turns out it's Gaslighters fetish to turn other people Trans. Kinda fucked up first of for this emotional rollercoaster and secondly because someone I thought was a friend was just using me for their fetish.

>>8682664

I'm worried your logic is stretched way too thin here, can you reexplain so I can understand better?

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>>8682667
>I win
no you did not win

its 20 weeks until christmas

>>8682657
>>8682667
nigga im trans

>>8682669
no, like, i could be with him, but he would love me more than i would love him, and that's unfair

>>8682673
it's similar to how people fetish, let's say, Asians. imo it's way different to fetish a person for what they are rather than like an "interrelated aspect" to their identity(i.e. their feet). It's just my take on it.

>>8682680
Of course it's unfair, I meant to agree that it was the right thing to do, just meant 'sad' as in for him.

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im so desperate for a boyfriend that maybe a chaser wouldn't be so bad ugh

>>8682687
don't lower your standards that far desu
your dating pool will be so much better in a few years
do you really want to enter into a (presumably long term) relationship out of desperation?

>>8682687

Are trans people really as lonely as this board makes them sound?

You faggots told me skeletal changes were a meme into your 20's god my fucking hips ache like fuck all day lying idiots

>>8682691
>do you really want to enter into a (presumably long term) relationship out of desperation?
i mean, if i end up loving the guy, i dono't see much of a problem wth thos ebecause the chaser just didn't discard me
>>8682693
yes. i go to work, and come home, no nothing outside of that.

>>8682671
Im glad anon, sorry you have to go through this mess. If you want someone to talk to through it im happy to add you on discord or something.

>>8682693
depends
less sheltered trans people tend to be okay with presenting before they pass, and do better as a result

>>8682694
You mean there's hope for me??

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goof morning thread

>>8682695
Where do you work?
surely ya gotta have some hobbies other than work and sleep

>>8682696
As much as I'd love to I think maybe it's just best not to. I've found someone supportive to talk to thankfully. It just hurts.

>>8682695
idk, it's just
4chan guys don't tend to be exactly
well, nowhere close to 'top tier'
and unless you're super likely, you'll always have to wonder if you could've landed yourself a better man

>>8682702
morning, phien

>>8682703
at a small restaurant. i used to have hobbies, but i really just wake up in the afternoon, go to work, come home and get on my computer for a bit and browse the web, then go to sleep. im way to exhausted to do anything on my days off? i lie in bed all day. not depressed, but it's just so relieving from work

>>8682709

You should obviously go in for SRS

It will fix everything

>>8682709
You don't exactly have to jump straight to a relationship though, you could just get someone/some people to converse with or watch movies and stuff, y'know

>>8682715
no u

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>>8682702
good morning soapie

>>8682705
Alrighty, fair fair. Good luck.

>>8682716
>you could just get someone/some people to converse with or watch movies and stuff,
im a hermit(aside form work), so no clue how this would happen.

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>>8682706
how's life?

>>8682720
hey anon!
whats happening today?

Would you be normal friends with someone who is open about not wanting to date trans people?

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>>8682725
not much just watching this video atm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBkjdutVmFA

>>8682716
>show a fulltime transgirl my boobs
>she gets jealous
GOOD
FEEL

>>8682725
i dunno, i was cripplingly depressed for the last 2 weeks but i feel like i'm getting a little better now

Transfriends

Are you pro-2nd Ammnd?

>>8682722
Yeah me too, minus the work part.
We could be friends if you wanna.
>>8682731
>>show a fulltime transgirl my boobs
>>she gets jealous
>GOOD
>FEEL
That's indecent and also confusing

>>8682729
of course

>>8682734
what?
i know this fulltime transgirl on discord and i showed her a pic of my boobs
entirely platonically, but also because i like to flirt with her sometimes!
and she reacted with jealousy :D

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>>8682730
why are so many transgirls into weapons and general military equipment? Id be too if I wasnt living here. I find it very curious.

>>8682731
thats good. usually these kinds of depression come in waves. maybe try to use the breather to make some progress

>>8682721
You too, Anon

>>8682740
you save those things for marriage young lady
but also congratulations

>microwave some cheese onto bread
>fry an egg both sides
>put egg between bread
>put feta on top of egg and pepper
im cum

so how do you guys clean your butts for buttsex?
or get ready atleast
>just wanna let my bear top get it in because im pretty sure hes tired of oral and will probably force it in anyways soon
pls help

>>8682740

You don't have boobs, you're a man

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I dont want to be trans anymore.

>>8682748

Why would you date someone who would rape you?

Why the fuck do trans people keep getting in long term relationships with people that kill them, I've never understood this

>>8682745
:(
i just like slutposting
but only with people i'm comfortable with!
but yeah, it's looking like they'll grow pretty well, which is a necessity because i'm fairly wide

>>8682750
iktf
but being a man is so much worse

>>8682742
yeah, i dunno
i was going to just let my health insurance expire but i guess i can force myself to renew it maybe

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>>8682742
>why are so many transgirls into weapons and general military equipment? Id be too if I wasnt living here. I find it very curious.

HOW does mtf cope with all these damn side effects from hrt?
i feel like if i dont smoke weed rolled in blunt leaves like snoop doggy doo in all seriousness im gonna lose it one day

>>8682742
Hey Sophie, how do I stop wanting to kill myself?

>>8682748
I have no utilities so here's my ghetto way but if you can get an enema use that obviously

>eat lots of fibre a few days prior
>avoid food for a day
>shit really hard, force everything out of you, even liquid, might take a while
>go to shower with plastic waterbottle full of water
>squat over drain and squirt water into butthole
>squeeze it out (extremely uncomfortable for a while, be warned, and you may get some shit)
>repeat until clear water
>finger self, explore everything and get as far in as possible, preferably use an object to get deeper in as well, so to be sure there's no shit

It gets way easier the more you do it.

>>8682766

This is so brutally fucking hilarious

I can almost see why you dudes are desperate enough for srs as an alternative to anal

Holy shit

>>8682766
i don't want to be a bottom anymore

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>>8682752
we have this weird big/small dom kinda thing he likes too always talk about how small and short i am and tease me while hugging me before he talks about how much bigger his peewee is than mine before he molests me and teases my itty bitty girlyboy conetits

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>>8682761
I dont know. Ill tell you once I stop wanting to do that

>>8682755
insurance is important
pls renew

>>8682759
this picture describes me as well.

I thought transpeople tend to like weapons tho because they symbolize power, we could be using them as a means to project strength, control and security because those are things we rarely have in life.
Idk maybe thats a stupid thought. my antipsychs block my brain

>>8682775
idk, i don't have a doctor and it's nigh impossible to find one because fuck the big island
all i have is my therapist who is trans, so good medical advice, but kinda a snowflake

>>8682773
sounds insecure

>>8682775
You're overanalyzing. Things that go bang and boom are cool, is all.

>>8682769
well its not just that anal sucks and dysphoria over having the wrong genitals exists
but also we can FEEL the vagina that should be there, phantom vagina whatever you want to call it
you dont know the meaning of frustration until you cant access the spot that would sexually satisfy you because a mound of useless flesh that you hate is in the way

>>8682769
Yeah, I fucking love anal, but honestly it's super inconvenient. Like, you disrupt your eating schedule, prep can be downright disgusting if you dont judge your bowels quite right, etc. With an actual vagina, you can just kiss her, pull her panties off and put your dick in her no prep required. Do that with a butt and youll get shit on yourself. Gay men know the struggle but at least dont have to cope with dick dysphoria.

Tools like enemas and whatnot make it better but still at the end of the day, you shit from there. Worst part is I dont even want SRS. Just glad I have a cis gf, vibrators and a low sex drive.

>>8682769
A lifetime of anal and limp dick sounds about as awful as a lifetime with surgical inverted dick.

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>>8682778
that may be true but theres always something else that could go wrong. you ll need insurance if something happens

>>8682779
ya youre probably right

>>8682674
>no you did not win
i will win.

i'm gonna help you pee in the toilets by holding your feminine penis for you

>>8682678
prove it

>>8682787
i dunno, if you're poor you get free health coverage at the hospital afaik
like at the psych ward i got charged nothing, and my social worker didn't charge me anything either
they're state funded

hawaii has really good health insurance, but it doesn't may much so doctors leave asap

I'm almost convinced there are no trans people actually in this thread